ROH on COMET (and TNA on pop)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Would rather see ROH have a Pure Title than the TV Title, to be honest.

[Simple Fan]

I really think they could bring the PURE title back while having the TV title. I like the TV title though, and think Jay Lethal did wonders with it. Could use the PURE title for young guys like Dijack, Dalton Castle, and Adam Page.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I honestly haven't seen much of the ROH TV Title, but just in principle I think it's too similar to the World Title. I think the Pure Title would at least represent something different and unique to the company. Plus, look at it's lineage -- AJ Styles defeating CM Punk in the finals to become the first champion, Jay Lethal, Samoa Joe, Daniel Bryan -- a lot of those guys mean something to fans flipping over now. You can have commentary credit it for helping to craft their success.

Give it a couple of weeks of highlight videos showcasing the best of what it meant, then have Tomohiro Ishii (as Television Champion) wrestle the winner of a Pure Rules Tournament. I'd suggest Kyle O'Reilly. Put O'Reilly over and have Ishii go back to the Japan while O'Reilly gets focus in a division playing to his strengths.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA also really need to get rid of the King of the Mountain Title. Fuck's sake, how many times has that title changed names and rules. Have the World Title, Women's Title, X-Division Title and Tag Titles.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah, hate the King of the Mountian title. Really thought they were going to give it to Jarrett. Wouldn't be as ridiculous if it wasn't defended in regular matches. Just wish it would go back to the TV title. It's been the TNA Legends title. the TNA Global title, TNA TV title, and now the King of the Mountian title. Wouldn't mind if they just abandoned it and focused more on the X division.

[Simple Fan]

I honestly haven't seen much of the ROH TV Title, but just in principle I think it's too similar to the World Title. I think the Pure Title would at least represent something different and unique to the company. Plus, look at it's lineage -- AJ Styles defeating CM Punk in the finals to become the first champion, Jay Lethal, Samoa Joe, Daniel Bryan -- a lot of those guys mean something to fans flipping over now. You can have commentary credit it for helping to craft their success.

Give it a couple of weeks of highlight videos showcasing the best of what it meant, then have Tomohiro Ishii (as Television Champion) wrestle the winner of a Pure Rules Tournament. I'd suggest Kyle O'Reilly. Put O'Reilly over and have Ishii go back to the Japan while O'Reilly gets focus in a division playing to his strengths.

You can blame Jay Lethal for that, really did great things with the TV title. Dude has had a championship around his waist for over 2 years now. I like the PURE rules but it being combined with the ROH World title I'm not sure they would bring it back.

[Mr. Nerfect]

When are ROH going to get the money together for a Jay Lethal vs. Kurt Angle ROH World Title match?

[Mr. Nerfect]

They also need to get The Briscoes and The Hardys together for a redneck tag team brothers match. If they put those on the same PPV, I'd probably find a way to buy it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Put The Young Bucks vs. The Motor City Machine Guns on that PPV too. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

And pay Ronda Rousey half of Sinclair's money to come in for an NWA World Women's Championship match against Amber Gallows.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If they can bring in Ricochet for a match against Rey Mysterio before he goes back to AAA, that would be swell too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

ROH World Championship
Jay Lethal (c) vs. Kurt Angle

NWA World Women's Championship
Amber Gallows (c) vs. Ronda Rousey

ROH World Television Championship
Tomohiro Ishii (c) vs. Roderick Strong

ROH World Tag Team Championship
The Briscoes (c) vs. The Hardys

ROH Pure Championship Tournament Finals
Kyle O'Reilly vs. Adam Cole

Fight Without Honor
Silas Young vs. Dalton Castle

Michael Elgin vs. Moose

Rey Mysterio vs. Ricochet

The Young Bucks vs. The Motor City Machine Guns

Dark Match/DVD Bonus/Free Stream Lead-In
War Machine vs. The Addiction

Highest grossing ROH PPV of all-time.

[Heisenberg]

Kyle O'Reilly is awesome as hell

[Innovator]

Kyle O'Reilly has LOS INGOBERNABLES DI JAPAN to deal with coming up

[Heisenberg]

HEYAT!!!!!!!!!

[Simple Fan]

Kyle O'Reilly is awesome as hell

I don't feel this way. Like Bobby Fish but I just don't like Kyle O'Reilly.

[Simple Fan]

In TNA news, EC3 was pinned for the first time in a TNA ring by Mike Bennett on last night's Impact.

[DAMN iNATOR]

In TNA news, EC3 was pinned for the first time in a TNA ring by Mike Bennett on last night's Impact.

Riveting stuff, lol.

[erickman]

In TNA news, EC3 was pinned for the first time in a TNA ring by Mike Bennett on last night's Impact.

that was as dumb as how wcw ended goldburgs streak. good idea kill your biggest draw right as you try to sell your company.

[Simple Fan]

I don't think it was dumb. He's had a hell of a run and had Bennett beat before Maria got involved. Mike Bennett sold the win as a shocker and EC3 still looks strong.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Love that Maria is still in the wrestling business.

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[Simple Fan]

TNA has announced on Twitter that they’ve signed Caleb Konley and Sienna (Allysin Kay on the independent circuit) and re-signed Robbie E to a new contract.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

ROH had a bomb scare at their office today.

[Simple Fan]

That happened yesterday. Dude was shot but still alive, had wires strapped to him.

[Jordan]

So I decided to check in on ROH for the first time in a few years... holy shit, it was just what I needed. Filmed at Korakeun Hall, awesome atmosphere and the opening match was a tag with Lethal and Naito vs Okada and Yoshi Hashi... fucking amazing. Lethal and Okada were AMAZING together....

It's just what I've needed to see in some rasslin latley. I'll keep watching. I love the NJPW crossover.

[Jordan]

I will say that Jay Lethal's corn row's make him look like a bum. He should be as extravagant as Okada. Come off like a bigger star, he comes off pretty basic in his entrance.

[Simple Fan]

Love the House of Truths entrance music though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If New Japan wants to get more of a presence in the United States, I'd love to see them work more with ROH and get put on that new network Sinclair bought. Get TNA and pluck the talent worth a shit and either use them in New Japan or ROH. Bobby Lashley in Japan? The Hardys against The Briscoes? Yes, please.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sinclair should make a proper play at Kurt Angle and Rey Mysterio too.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

If Sinclair can buy TNA...

God that would be amazing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They should really float more money into their wrestling ventures. Keeping TNA alive with a bit of re-branding might actually work out for them. A lot of talent in the world doesn't really fit the ROH vibe and style. I could see James Storm coming in as kind of an outlaw heel, but I'm not sure how they will explain Lashley not being A1 in that universe, you know?

Plus, Dave Bautista seems to have a few frustrations with the WWE at the moment. If they could convince him to work a few PPVs a year, they could draw some attention and make some moolah. Bautista vs. Goldberg -- groan at the match quality all you want, don't deny that it doesn't have that star power. Throw Angle vs. Mysterio lower on that card and you have a show people won't miss.

[Ruien]

I would so miss that show.

[erickman]

wonder what hapens with abyss with his sports med degree from ohio i see wwe hireing him with out him having to wrestle for them.

[Simple Fan]

If New Japan wants to get more of a presence in the United States, I'd love to see them work more with ROH and get put on that new network Sinclair bought. Get TNA and pluck the talent worth a shit and either use them in New Japan or ROH. Bobby Lashley in Japan? The Hardys against The Briscoes? Yes, please.

Lashley has spent time in Japan with IGF. ROH and NJPW have a real good working relationship and show off NJPW stars well. A TNA/ROH merger would be great. TNA has a weak tag division and ROH has probably the best tag division in the world. ROH would gain a much needed group of main event talent as well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jay Lethal vs. Bobby Lashley for the ROH World Championship would be an interesting feud for Lethal, just because he's been such a stoic champion, and now here's this beast for him to overcome.

[Simple Fan]

New Bullet Club member revealed at Global Wars.
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Adam Cole BAY BAY!!

[DAMN iNATOR]

Lashley has spent time in Japan with IGF. ROH and NJPW have a real good working relationship and show off NJPW stars well. A TNA/ROH merger would be great. TNA has a weak tag division and ROH has probably the best tag division in the world. ROH would gain a much needed group of main event talent as well.

#LetTNADie

[Mr. Nerfect]

Adam Cole is a good choice for a new member. Adam Page has also joined. Don't know much about him, but there are too many "Adams" and "Pages" in independent wrestling.

[Simple Fan]

I guess Page joined at a TV taping? Know it didn't happen at Global Wars. I like it anyways. Feel like Page and Cole are very similar with Cole being superior. Think they are great additions to Bullet Club and are maybe an ROH wing, could see a few more guys joining if that's the case. Cole definitely has leadership potential but I'm not sure what they would do Omega.

[Simple Fan]

Matt Taven says he's going to rebuild The Kingdom. Could see Matt Sydal, Will Ferrera, and Rhett Titus being candidates. Could also see Bennett returning if he didn't sign a long term deal with TNA and is up at the end of the year.

[Rollermacka]

Not just because I'm slightly bias...... butt I really like Al Snow's "bitter grizzled vet" gimmick he's doing right now. A lot of throwbacks I know feel like that about the current product and I don't disagree.

Again personally, I've been a Pepper Parks fan for awhile now. I do like the idea of them dropping "the body" gimmick (considering they already have like 25 guys on the roster with that gimmick) and he's doing a "last ditch effort" gimmick of him making it in the wrestling business. Him being signed at 35 isn't "completely unheard of" (the guy is in amazing shape) but the idea behind his gimmick, it intrigues me

[Mr. Nerfect]

I saw a picture of Pepper Parks on their roster website. The guy looks like a thousand bucks. If TNA folded I wouldn't be opposed to seeing him form a team with Tye Dillinger. They both sort of have that journeyman story, both look great, and if Parks needs some more polish in the ring, Dillinger can certainly help with that.

Another potential ally for Parks in that vein is Damien Sandow. TNA are fools if they don't try and get him on board for something.

[Simple Fan]

I like Parks to I think his new name is Braxton Sutton. I'd like to see him interfere in the EC3/Bennett match on Bennetts behalf. Think him and Bennett would make a good tag team and they already have his wife Allie(Cherry Bomb) working with Maria.

Dont see what TNA sees in Raquel, basically only using her because she was on Tough Enough. She's not ready for TV and looked lost at ringside. They have her playing a Guru for BroMans which makes plenty of sense considering shes never even wrestled a match.

[Rollermacka]

I saw a picture of Pepper Parks on their roster website. The guy looks like a thousand bucks. If TNA folded I wouldn't be opposed to seeing him form a team with Tye Dillinger. They both sort of have that journeyman story, both look great, and if Parks needs some more polish in the ring, Dillinger can certainly help with that.

Another potential ally for Parks in that vein is Damien Sandow. TNA are fools if they don't try and get him on board for something.

I like Parks to I think his new name is Braxton Sutton. I'd like to see him interfere in the EC3/Bennett match on Bennetts behalf. Think him and Bennett would make a good tag team and they already have his wife Allie(Cherry Bomb) working with Maria.

Dont see what TNA sees in Raquel, basically only using her because she was on Tough Enough. She's not ready for TV and looked lost at ringside. They have her playing a Guru for BroMans which makes plenty of sense considering shes never even wrestled a match.

Well, Raquel is coming off her "15 mins of fame" and kinda gives off a Sofía Vergara vibe, which probably would of been more useful like 5 years ago when Modern Family was the biggest show around but still.....
I will give her some credit, she did train at the Wild Samoan School after Tough Enough. So when you add it up, former Reality TV star, IBBF Pro, trained at a credible wrestling school (local to Florida).... I can see why they hired her.

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A lot of people are shtting on the Matt/ Jeff segment that ended the night (I'm just gonna say I DVRed through it) but I really liked this one. I feel like they kinda wanted to do this "gimmick" with Adam Pearce like 5 years ago (when he did that Gut Check match) but it fell though for various reasons. Braxton can work, great body (said in the most hedro way possible :kiss:), and I would prefer to see him get a good singles run so he can feud with guys like EC3 and Bennett as opposed to teaming with them (TNA does need more main event level singles stars)

[Simple Fan]

It think the perfect way to go with him would to team with Bennett for a bit maybe even win the Tag titles and eventually have him grow tired of Bennett and have him and Allie battle Bennett and Maria as TNAs power couple and then start his singles run. I feel TNA needs a lot more depth in the Tag division.

[Simple Fan]

Was watching ROH this week and had the thought that Silas Young and Paul Titan would be a great tag team. He has the Real Man gimmick and has a similar look to you.

[Rollermacka]

Was watching ROH this week and had the thought that Silas Young and Paul Titan would be a great tag team. He has the Real Man gimmick and has a similar look to you.

Silas is one of my favorite workers in ROH, and I'm not gonna lie, I was kinda going for a gimmick similar to his when I worked as a "non monster heel" recently

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[Simple Fan]

Hiroshi Tanahashi spoke with Sports Illustrated for a new interview. The highlights are below:

On his goals for 2016: “I hope to become Ring of Honor world champion. If I get the opportunity to become champion, then I’ll come back to the United States every month and wrestle. Soon, I will also challenge [IWGP heavyweight champion] Naito. Unlike Naito, I respect the IWGP championship belt. For now, I am focused on Kenny Omega.”

On facing Kenny Omega in New Japan’s first ladder match: “I’ve watched Shawn Michaels’ ladder match against Razor Ramon for inspiration. Now I fight against Omega in a ladder match in Osaka in a date for the Intercontinental title. Sometimes, Kenny Omega uses second and third members from Bullet Club. But this June, I’m going to beat all of Bullet Club. I wish I had Shawn Michaels in my corner.”

On his favorite wrestler: “When I became a wrestler, I watched Shawn Michaels every night I could. I love Shawn Michaels’s style. Someone once called me the “Japanese Shawn Michaels,” and I was proud to hear that. I’d be too nervous to wrestle him.”

On the status of his shoulder and how he thinks he will fare in the match: “Pro wrestling is a fight. Sometimes, it is entertainment but deeper than that, it is fighting. I have fought many times, many long matches. I have even been hurt by Kenny Omega. I may be hurt, but I’ll be OK–but I’m never tired.”

[Simple Fan]

Dixie Carter announced a new title match for Slammiversary. Carter announced that Eli Drake will defend his newly-won King of the Mountain Championship against Bram at the PPV.

Was hoping they would do a King of the Mountain match considering it's the King of the Mountain Championship. Another reason they should change it back to the TV title of they are not going to have King of the Mountain matches. I don't even think either one of them has ever been in a King of the Mountain match.

[Big Vic]

Yeah TNA is dumb

[Rollermacka]

Was hoping they would do a King of the Mountain match considering it's the King of the Mountain Championship. Another reason they should change it back to the TV title of they are not going to have King of the Mountain matches. I don't even think either one of them has ever been in a King of the Mountain match.

Yeah TNA is dumb

I know it's "kinda dumb" that they don't defend it constantly in KOTM matches..... but I like that it isn't just named the "intercontinental, US, TV, etc" title

[Simple Fan]

— TNA and Bobby Lashley are close to finalizing a new deal.

— The Matt & Jeff Hardy video from TNA iMPACT! Wrestling was shot by a small crew, on location on the property of Matt and Jeff Hardy. There were rumors that TNA spent a lot of money on the segment, which were incorrect.

— Tickets for TNA’s 2017 UK tour have not been put on sale yet. They are usually on sale by now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Was hoping they would do a King of the Mountain match considering it's the King of the Mountain Championship. Another reason they should change it back to the TV title of they are not going to have King of the Mountain matches. I don't even think either one of them has ever been in a King of the Mountain match.

They haven't put James Storm in anything for Slammiversary. Throw him in a King of the Mountain Match with those guys. And...uh...

[Mr. Nerfect]

Would love it if Hiroshi Tanahashi challenged Jay Lethal for the ROH World Title, Lethal won, they shook hands, Tanahashi gets a huge send-off, then Cody Rhodes attacks him from behind...

[Simple Fan]

Lethal has to survive Jey Briscoe first. Really not sure what they'll do at Best in the World but I'd like to see Lethal retain. If Tanahashi wins the IWGP it be cool to have Lethal vs Tanahashi at Wrestle Kingdom where the loser has to drop their title. I couldn't see NJPW wanting Lethal to look stronger than their ace so I couldn't see Lethal winning if the match was for both titles.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You could have Tanahashi win the World Title off Lethal and Jay returning to America a broken man. Someone like Adam Cole could get in his business for failing the company. Well, I think Adam Cole will end up in NXT at the end of the year, but someone could do it. Mike Bennett might be back if TNA folds.

[Simple Fan]

Yes Adam Cole will be in NXT in 2017. Vince is reportedly real high on him and wanted him now but his contracts not up.

Adam Cole Bay Bay

[Simple Fan]

I'd have no problem with Tanahashi having a reign as ROH World Champion. I dont see Lethal lasting til Wrestle Kingdom for my hypothetical match though. I think he'll beat Briscoe but I believe Cole will get another title run before the end of the year. Could see Adam Cole vs Cody Rhodes as Coles ROH send off match before he goes to WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I agree that Cole ends up in WWE. I don't think they need to put the ROH World Title on him if that is the case. I certainly wouldn't go back to Jay Briscoe. I'm quite content with Jay Lethal remaining champion until either Wrestle Kingdom or whenever Cody finishes his hit list.

[Simple Fan]

Feel like ROH would put it on him in hope that he would consider re signing with them. With him joining Bullet Club I can see him getting a pretty good push.

[Rollermacka]

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Bryan and Vinny.... liked this segment?


Love that Maria is still in the wrestling business.

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Feel like ROH would put it on him in hope that he would consider re signing with them. With him joining Bullet Club I can see him getting a pretty good push.

That's a fair point. He might decide to really increase his worth in ROH and Japan for a while.

[Jordan]

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Bryan and Vinny.... liked this segment?

It is so bad it's ... well not good but it's so bad its entertaining. It's so bad lol.

[Simple Fan]

TNA Slammiversary card

*TNA World Heavyweight Title Match: Champion Drew Galloway vs. Bobby Lashley (Win by submission or KO only)
* TNA Tag Team Title Match: Champions The Decay (Abyss and Crazzy Steve) w/Rosemary vs. The BroMans (Jesse Godderz and Robbie E) w/Raquel
* Full Metal Mayhem: Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy
* TNA KOTM Title Match: Champion Eli Drake vs. Bram
* Gail Kim vs. Maria Kanellis
* Ethan Carter III vs. Mike Bennett

[Rollermacka]

TNA Slammiversary card

*TNA World Heavyweight Title Match: Champion Drew Galloway vs. Bobby Lashley (Win by submission or KO only)
* TNA Tag Team Title Match: Champions The Decay (Abyss and Crazzy Steve) w/Rosemary vs. The BroMans (Jesse Godderz and Robbie E) w/Raquel
* Full Metal Mayhem: Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy
* TNA KOTM Title Match: Champion Eli Drake vs. Bram
* Gail Kim vs. Maria Kanellis
* Ethan Carter III vs. Mike Bennett

I think Grasp / Shera vs The Tribunal (Legionares from NXT) is suppose to happen
And it's safe to assume there's gonna be an X Division match

[Simple Fan]

Wish they would take Shera more seriously. He could be so more than a dancing Indian. Actually liked him better as Koya in the Revolution.

[Ruien]

You assholes posted enough now the first post I see isn't Maria's ass.

[Simple Fan]

You could ask Rollermaka to edit it in to his post, I'm sure he would do it.

[Rollermacka]

You assholes posted enough now the first post I see isn't Maria's ass.


You're welcome, Ruien :kiss:

Wish they would take Shera more seriously. He could be so more than a dancing Indian. Actually liked him better as Koya in the Revolution.

I think there's a lot of potential in him..... I just think he got brought in way too early and exposed before he was ready.

I did think he was much better as a heel as well. Again "if Macka was booking" I'd remove him from tv and send him to Al Snow's wrestling school for like 6 months and have him work on the "basics". Then, I'd find another guy his size or bigger from India or even the Middle East and make them a straight up MONSTER team. For three months straight, no bumps, maybe 3 or 4 minute matches a most, just udder dominance (throws, slams, just straight up viciousness). Then after building them up like that, give them a feud with whoever the tag champs are at that time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sounds reasonable. I don't even know if you need to put him with another Asian guy. Shera is young and was basically just starting out when he worked for Ring Ka King. The guy will need a lot more polish.

[Simple Fan]

I'd like to see him in the X division as a Samoa Joe type. I know he's not on Joe's level and probably never will be but that's the role I'd put him in on IMPACT. Not a fan of his teaming with Grado and his dancing shit. Hopefully he turns heel on Grasp but I don't see it happening.

[Rollermacka]

Sounds reasonable. I don't even know if you need to put him with another Asian guy. Shera is young and was basically just starting out when he worked for Ring Ka King. The guy will need a lot more polish.

Yea, he doesn't need to be Asian but I just think it would look unique to find another guy size from India or the Middle East to add another dynamic to the "monster team" formula. I know TNA has a working relationship with Khali's school in India..... and I heard they found a 7 ft tall guy who trains at his school (not named Khali)

[Simple Fan]

Glad Matt has toned it down with that stupid voice this week.

[Rollermacka]

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A lot of people are shtting on the Matt/ Jeff segment that ended the night (I'm just gonna say I DVRed through it) but I really liked this one. I feel like they kinda wanted to do this "gimmick" with Adam Pearce like 5 years ago (when he did that Gut Check match) but it fell though for various reasons. Braxton can work, great body (said in the most hedro way possible :kiss:), and I would prefer to see him get a good singles run so he can feud with guys like EC3 and Bennett as opposed to teaming with them (TNA does need more main event level singles stars)

I was actually kinda surprised that Braxton got such a good reaction from the Impact audience. Never seen him really work face but I was pleasantly surprised. Da guy he wrestled doe..... you know Macka was open for a booking the day they filmed that episode :-\
#JustSayin

[Mr. Nerfect]

Khali's Indian promotion would be better off developing a relationship with the WWE.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Maybe in the long run. But TNA seems to be desperate and hemorrhaging money. Get on board the gravy train while it lasts.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, good point.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Slammiversary approaches, Brother Nero.

How do you think this show will come together? I hope the company re-hires Dutch as a booker.

[Simple Fan]

I see Lashley winning the TNA World Heavyweight Championship in the main event. Has to end by knockout or tap out so I hope they don't have Galloway knock him out at least.

I think Jeff wins and Matt turns face after the match and they team again. Hopefully Jeff doesn't break his leg again.

EC3 vs The Miracle is a tough one but I think Bennett wins with some sort of shenanigans. Braxton Sutter said he had plans for Slammiversary and I could see him getting involved in Bennett's behalf.

I expect Eli Drake to retain the King of the Mountian Championship against Bram. Could also see this being what Braxton Sutter was talking about and they find a few other guys and actually have a King of the Mountian match.

Hope the Tribunal beat Grado and Shera.

Gail beats Maria but get a beat down after by all of Maria's lackeys.

I'd like to see Decay beat The BroMans and retain the TNA Tag Team titles.

Don't think there is a X division announced yet. And I think Jade face Siena for the Knockoutsee title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

As far as the X-Division Title goes, I want Eddie Edwards to get a run as champion. Gregory Helms can split from Trevor Lee after the loss and start a feud with him. Get some stories going in that division.

I think Grado & Shera probably win their tag match. Shera is probably a large part of TNA's Indian deal, and it's possible that deal will keep them afloat in the future. I don't expect the Shera push to disappear anytime soon.

Lashley winning the World Title makes sense given that Bellator will want Lashley to be a draw for them, so ruining that against Galloway is pretty stupid. I'd make Jeff Hardy the first challenger to Lashley and have Galloway move down to work with either Bennett or Broken Matt.

[Simple Fan]

I'd be fine with Shera getting a good push I just don't like him with Grado. I've said before I'd like to see him in the X division but I'm not sure he could keep up with the speed of the X division.

[Simple Fan]

X division match is Trevor Lee vs Eddie Edwards vs Adam Everett vs DJ Z. Wouldn't mind seeing Eddie have a run with it while Davey is hurt.

[erickman]

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Bryan and Vinny.... liked this segment?

well the internet made this vid a classic and made a vid response

[Simple Fan]

ADAM COLE HOSPITALIZED FOR PNEUMONIA, WILL MISS EVENTS IN HOPKINS AND MILWAUKEE

Adam Cole has been hospitalized in Philadelphia for pneumonia and will be unable to appear at this weekend’s Road to Best in the World events in Hopkins, Minn., and Milwaukee, ROHWrestling.com has learned.

Cole had been scheduled to face Chris Sabin tonight in Hopkins and Colt Cabana tomorrow night in Milwaukee.

Ring of Honor Matchmaker Nigel McGuinness said that he is working on finding replacements for Cole.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Poor Adam Cole.

[Mr. Nerfect]

How good is Bobby Lashley these days? He's got a 4-0 Bellator record and a 14-2 overall MMA record. Do you think there's any chance of him going for their Heavyweight Title soon? I read it's vacant. It'd probably be a good business choice to put him over Drew Galloway at Slammiversary.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah it's vacant and he's probably high on the list for a title shot. TNA would be smart to go with Lashley over Galloway right now.

[Simple Fan]

TNA Slammiversary results


-Borash welcomes us to TNA Slammiversary with the entire roster and crew on stage, and leads Orlando in a moment of silence for the victims of this morning’s mass shooting.

X-Division Championship Match
Trevor Lee (c) vs. Andrew Everett vs. Eddie Edwards vs. DJZ

JB announces that Gregory Shane Helms has been banned from ringside by TNA management. We get a partnership early on with Edwards and DJZ teaming up against Helms’ boys. Everett scores the first big move of the match with a springboard corkscrew moonsault over the ropes to take everyone out. The alliances continue for most of the match until Everett tries to pin DJZ and the champion isn’t happy about it. Edwards chops both of them down a few dozen times and almost wins it with a Blue Thunder Bomb. Several late game, chaotic false-finish sequences with some incredible moves by all four guys. Edwards scouts Trevor’s Fisherman’s Buster into a small package to steal it out of nowhere. Winner and NEW CHAMPION: Eddie Edwards.

-We head backstage where JB is with Ethan Carter III. He says Bennett is very good and he was the first person to beat him, but that was the catalyst he needed to become one of the very best professional wrestlers in the world. EC3 goes on a great rant about how Bennett isn’t a “god” but a false prophet, and how he’s coming down Mount Sinai with two fists, ten knuckles and some “old testament vengeance”.

Basile Baraka & Baron Dax vs. Grado & Mahabali Shera

Al Snow does his post-match promo thing, praising Donald Trump and wanting to make pro wrestling great again. The match is fairly back-and-forth, with a lot of double teaming on Grado and trying to keep Shera out of the action as much as possible. Grado has it won at the end, but Al Snow distracts the referee and The Tribunal drops Grado to pick up the win. Winners: Basile Baraka & Baron Dax.

-Gail Kim comes out for her match with Maria, who has a broken hand and cannot compete tonight. Billy Corgan brings out x-rays to prove that Maria’s injury is legitimate. Gail demands a match, so Corgan adds her to the Knockouts Championship match, which is apparently happening next.

Knockouts Championship Match
Jade (c) vs. Sienna vs. Gail Kim

Maria and Allie are watching on from the ramp. Lots of three-way moves and roll-ups until it breaks down to Gail and Jade both going after Sienna. Jade with a possible spot of the match, coming off a springboard into a beautiful tilt-a-whirl DDT, almost immediately followed by a top rope hurricanrana. Gail hits Eat Da Feet on Sienna but is pulled out of the ring by Allie, and goes right after Maria. Sienna is going to hit Jade with the title belt, but Marti Bell shows up out of nowhere and nails the champ with some kind of foreign object; Sienna picks up the pin. Winner and NEW CHAMPION: Sienna.

-James Storm comes to the ring dressed to compete, as JB wonders who he’s in action against tonight. Storm says that 14 years ago a man gave a bunch of kids an opportunity, and now he’s standing here a veteran in the wrestling business after all that time. He says in 14 years he wants to be sitting at home, hearing about how James Storm gave someone the same opportunity, so he will be facing Braxton Sutter tonight on PPV.

James Storm vs. Braxton Sutter

Basic stuff early on with Sutter trying to get in some offense on the veteran. He hits a nice release suplex into the bottom turnbuckle. He runs right into Closing Time, followed by the Last Call superkick and the Cowboy picks up the “W”. The two shake hands and drink beer after the match. Surprisingly, no one turns on anyone, and nothing bad happens at all. Winner: James Storm.
-Eli Drake with a backstage promo to hype the King of the Mountain title match.

King of the Mountain Championship Match
Eli Drake (c) vs. Bram

Drake almost flung himself off the ropes, botching on his entrance. Bram goes absolutely crazy on him as soon as the match starts, fighting up and down the ramp, ripping up the padded floor outside the ring, but Drake back body drops him onto the concrete. Bram barely makes it back into the ring after a (very) extended 10-count, and gets dropped with a running neckbreaker. Back and forth brawling heading into the end; Bram hits his second wind with a big DDT, but Drake rolls to the outside, gets rolled back in, but Drake was playing possum and hits Blunt Force Trauma for three. Winner and still champion: Eli Drake.

Mike Bennett vs. Ethan Carter III

Lots of “no we don’t” and “EC3” chants early on. Ethan is in control from the start until Bennett runs him into the turnbuckle and beats him down on the outside. From there the match is one-sided, slowing down the pace as Bennett drops EC3 with big power moves every time he builds a little momentum, including a DDT off the barricade, and a spinebuster. The Miracle with a cutter, but Carter no-sells it and hits a clotheslines to finally get back into the match. Flapjack into the One-Percenter, but Bennett kicks out at two. The brawl to the apron and EC3 hits the TK3 on the apron but might have hurt himself more with it in the process. Bennett catches him out of the air with a cutter (out of nowhere!) for two. Carter tries for a submission but Mike grabs a hold of the referee and low blows EC3, followed by a big piledriver…again, for two. Carter hits a trio of German suplexes and another One-Percenter, but the ref is distracted by a chair that Maria threw into the ring. He goes after Maria and the ref bails to eject her from ringside, but Bennett takes advantage with the Miracle in Progress onto a chair…for another two-count. EC3 with a second TK3 and a third One-Percenter for the pin. Winner: Ethan Carter III.

Full Metal Mayhem
Broken Matt vs. Brother Nero

Jeff attacks his brother with a trash can as he’s making his entrance. They brawl into the ring and Jeff hits a spear before they go back to the outside to find more toys. Matt sandwiches him into the rails with a ladder, Jeff flattens two trash cans across his back and nearly breaks an extra tall ladder against him. He sets his brother on a table on the floor and Jeff crashes through him with top rope splash for two. Jeff has a one-sided ladder that he extends from one side of the ring all the way to the other, perched between the ropes. Twist of Fate on top of the ladder, followed by another splash that breaks it (and them) in half – another two. Another Twist of Fate attempt but Matt escaped and turns his brother inside out with a lariat, followed by a wicket Side Effect on the apron. Matt goes back under the ring and pulls out… a keyboard? He sets it up between the ring and the barricade and Jeff goes crashing through it with a hard looking powerbomb for two-and-a-half. There’s a teased double table spot to the floor, but both guys end up falling off a ladder into the ropes instead. Jeff is back up first: another Twist of Fate followed by the Swanton for two. They fight to the floor and now it’s time for the double table spot it seems; Jeff puts him through one table with another TOF but apparently neither of these guys can be pinned. He sets up the second table, climbs back into the ring, and comes off the top rope with a Swanton through the table and…gets the pin. Winner: Jeff Hardy.

TNA Tag Team Championship Match
Abyss (c) & Crazzy Steve (c) vs. Robbie E & Jessie Godderz

Robbie ends up flying over the ropes to take out both members of Decay. Rosemary goes after Jessie Godderz, and he picks her up and throws her over the ropes into all three of them. Steve trips Jessie off a springboard and plants him on the apron, and thus starts Abyss slowing down the pace in their corner. After a few minutes Robbie makes the hot tag and the BroMans start their comeback. Rosemary accidentally blinds Abyss with the poison mist and he accidentally chokeslams his own partner. BroMans with their finisher on Steve and Jessie has him tapping out, but Abyss pulls the referee from the ring and hits him with the mist. Rosemary and Raquel go at it which is enough of a distraction for Steve to nail Robbie with the title belts for…. NOPE, Robbie kicks out. They hit Steve with their finisher again and lock in the Boston Crab, but Abyss takes them out, then chokeslams his partner into Godderz for the win. Great, great finish. Winners and still champions: Abyss & Crazzy Steve.

TNA Heavyweight Championship Match
Knock Out or Tap Out
Drew Galloway (c) vs. Bobby Lashley

Galloway on the attack right away, but Lashley comes right back and turns him out with a lariat. Early parts of the match are back and forth with a lot of mat based grappling and submissions. Galloway broke up an armbar attempt with a boot right to face, which actually opens up the challenger the hard way right above his eye. They fight up for a top rope spot, but Galloway drops him down on his face and follows up with a double ax handle, then the Claymore Kick. Another Claymore Kick, followed by another, but on the third attempt Lashley comes out of nowhere with a huge spear. A brawl takes them to the floor where Bobby gets thrown into the ring steps. The champ lifts the big man up and plants a Celtic Cross on top of the steps. He locks in a Sharpshooter on the steps, but for some reason the referee makes him break the hold because he’s in the ropes… and he listens and breaks the hold? Drew brings out a table (because we have no ref consistency, apparently) and puts Lashley on top of it, but ends up crashing and burning through it solo on a tope. Drew is back to his feet at a count of nine, busted open from the forehead. He comes off the top rope but Lashley catches him with an armbar and transitions into a crossface; Galloway somehow gets up and counters the hold into a Tombstone Piledriver. Both men down – Galloway up at a count of five, Lashley up at the last second. He side steps a Claymore Kick and puts the champ in a chokehold; Galloway passes out and the ref calls for the bell. Winner and NEW CHAMPION: Lashley

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sounds like a good direction for the company, to be honest. They do need some good tag teams. I don't really know who are available though. Are The Killer Elite Squad free?

[ron the dial]

"a one-sided ladder"

[Simple Fan]

Impact seems to be having difficulties tonight. Show started playing recaps of Slammiversary Sith the feed dropping in and out and then it went black and went to commercials

[erickman]

did tna not pay there tv bill whats hapning

[Simple Fan]

Commercials are on a loop now. Get a That 70s show one the Celebrity Name Game the another 70s show one and then a Impact one and then it loops back.

[erickman]

watching the death of a wrestling company right now

[Simple Fan]

did tna not pay there tv bill whats hapning

I don't know but it's been 10 minutes of this loop of commercials.

[Simple Fan]

watching the death of a wrestling company right now

I believe so, the funny thing is the Impact add keeps playing swing new episodes Tuesday's at 9 only on Pop.

[Simple Fan]

Oh shit a Dominos commercial. Maybe a new loop.

[erickman]

we will be watching this soon on the wwe network

[Simple Fan]

Oh it's on now Jeff Hardy vs Eli Drake for the King of the Mountain title.

[Simple Fan]

Spoke to soon, cut to that loop in the middle of Eli Drakes entrance.

[erickman]

wow

[Ruien]

Wait what? They are only playing commercials? Why?

[Simple Fan]

I don't know keeps cutting in and out of the show, Lashley is now entering. As soon as I say that they go back to that loop.

[Simple Fan]

Lashley is back saying this is live TV but it like a bad stream.

[erickman]

yeah anything can happen lashley like your broadcast messes up

[Simple Fan]

And now back to the loop.

[erickman]

well atleast this is more entertaining then last nights raw

[Simple Fan]

This just might be the end of TNA. Pretty damn bad.

[Simple Fan]

EC3 and Drew Galloway talking backstage just got interrupted by that loop now.

[erickman]

maby if she puts the bra on the loop hell will stop

[Ruien]

Was this like a special live show or something they are screwing up?

[Simple Fan]

It was supposed to be on a delay is how the usually do it but I'm not sure what's going on.

[Droford]

Who's going into the HOF

[Simple Fan]

I don't know the show is not airing. Smeat has it under spoiler tags in his sheets thread.

[Simple Fan]

Think this is the longest the loop has gone without cutting to a 15 second part of the show.

[Simple Fan]

Don't know how to upload Twiiter stuff but TNA said this:
The @PopTV broadcast center is experiencing technical issues and is working to resolve the issue. We will pass along updates as we get them
45 mins ago - View on Twitter
We apologize for the issue with @PopTV. The issue is with master control and they are working to correct it. Please stay with us

[Simple Fan]

More from their Twitter:
@PopTV is working to resolve the issue. IMPACT will run from the top in entirety. We will keep you updated on when IMPACT will air tonight

@PopTV informs us the show will run with limited commercials.

[Simple Fan]

From Dixies Twitter:
Almost fixed! @PopTV will be airing the show in its entirety shortly. We apologize for the technical issues. Stay tuned...

[Simple Fan]

It's starting now.

[Simple Fan]

lol, Matt comes out and bites Earl Hebners hand as he's about to hit a 3 count for Jeff to win the KotM title.

[Simple Fan]

Gail Kim is a good choice for the TNA Hall of Fame. Knockouts division is the best women's wrestling on the planet and she's been the leader of that division since it started.

[Simple Fan]

Ok show once it got started.

[Rollermacka]

Was this like a special live show or something they are screwing up?

Supposedly, (according to the Macka's super secret "insider sources :kiss:) this while thing actually wasn't TNAs fault. Something happened on the Pop TV distribution servers and they had some kinda freak accident on their side.

[Ruien]

Good. About time for something to go wrong but it isn't their fault.

[Simple Fan]

Ring of Honor World Champion Jay Lethal reached a nice milestone on Sunday. He has now held the world title in the promotion for one year. This marks the longest promotional world title reign in ROH since 2009. It is also the fourth longest in history. In addition, he was TV champion for over 400 days before he won the world title, giving him a total of 805 days in a row holding a title in the same company.

[Simple Fan]

The Miracle Mike Bennett won the X Division title tonight. Destination X is in a few weeks and I could see him taking Option C and going for the TNA World Heavyweight title. If he even holds on to it that long.

[Mr. Nerfect]

For fuck's sake. What was wrong with Eddie Edwards holding it?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Edwards could have declined to go with the Option C route. Or he could have done so, challenged Lashley, and given him a good run for his money. Fuck's sake.

[Simple Fan]

Destination X is a few weeks away and the win wasn't clean, he had a hold the ropes and the ref didn't see for the pin. I'd imagine Eddie Edwards will get a rematch. I kind of like Mike Bennett as X Division champ.

[Rollermacka]

Personal favorite segment of the show, the whole Braxton Stutter/ Spud segment.
There was some random dude in the ring in blue, with cheetah print kneepads and a mask with frilly things hanging off.... Spud came out and sent Braxton's opponent away (thankfully) said he was the most decorated wrestler in TNA :roll: They had a solid match and Spud attacked him post match to start a feud. I thought it was well done, Spud is really good (as both a heel and face) and the fans seem to be really getting behind Braxton (which is a pleasant surprise)

[Simple Fan]

Yeah Spud pretty good on the mic and the ring. Think Sutter needs a little bit more personality though. Feel like him and Apollo Crews are just alike in their characters.

[Rollermacka]

Yeah Spud pretty good on the mic and the ring. Think Sutter needs a little bit more personality though. Feel like him and Apollo Crews are just alike in their characters.

Pepper Parks (Braxton) has been a heel for majority of the shows I've seen him on.... to be fair as a face he does seem to have the crowd behind him (and there is a lot a "dead crowd segments" unfortunately)

[Simple Fan]

I like Sutter and all I just feel like he needs something more but I'm not sure what. Working with Spud should be good for him and get him away from being the humble guy that finally made it.

[Rollermacka]

I like Sutter and all I just feel like he needs something more but I'm not sure what. Working with Spud should be good for him and get him away from being the humble guy that finally made it.

I think as far as "for a character" I think he's on the right track. You obviously can't debut as "aww fuck you, kick ass X1000" right off the bat. They seem to be building him up from taping to taping, and that is a smart way to do it (that's kinda what they did for Drew and EC3)

[Simple Fan]

They've done a pretty good job building up talent since EC3 came in. Especially the guys that they really want to push. The talent are responding to the push as well and developing their characters. Really like Eli Drake to and they built him up pretty quick in my opinion but he in the right spot. Galloway has had a career resurgence since joining TNA and is taken serious. Think they were high on Bram before his suspension and he's fallen down the card a bit but I like him going up against Decay. If their high on Sutter like it seems they are I have no doubt they will give him every chance to succeed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Destination X is a few weeks away and the win wasn't clean, he had a hold the ropes and the ref didn't see for the pin. I'd imagine Eddie Edwards will get a rematch. I kind of like Mike Bennett as X Division champ.

The dirty finish doesn't make it any less stupid. Bennett is not a good fit for the X-Division Title aesthetically at all. Destination X doesn't really count as a thing anymore, because TNA got so horrible it lost PPV. Let's put what we've turned into a lower-card title onto one of our wannabe main event guys in order to get him ready for a heel vs. heel match against our top champ. Terrible.

[Simple Fan]

Cut a promo saying he only wanted it for option C. Could totally see Eddie winning it back or someone else at Destination X so Bennett has something new to complain about.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That makes the belt look even worse.

[Mr. Nerfect]

At least Maria still works.

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[Simple Fan]

That makes the belt look even worse.

Well option C pretty much does that.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So that justifies it?

[Simple Fan]

Justifies what? It's not a bad story line, the X division is open to everybody so I don't have a problem with Bennett as X Division champion. Especially if it's to build him up for a TNA Heavyweight title match. But I could honestly see Eddie or someone taking it from him, maybe in a ultimate x match that he would be lost in. After that he'd have another gripe with TNA and he can go on to what ever is next.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Justifies treating the belt like it's shit.

[Rollermacka]

They've done a pretty good job building up talent since EC3 came in. Especially the guys that they really want to push. The talent are responding to the push as well and developing their characters. Really like Eli Drake to and they built him up pretty quick in my opinion but he in the right spot. Galloway has had a career resurgence since joining TNA and is taken serious. Think they were high on Bram before his suspension and he's fallen down the card a bit but I like him going up against Decay. If their high on Sutter like it seems they are I have no doubt they will give him every chance to succeed.

First things first, gotta bring back the Maria gif

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Onto the business at hand, from what I've been told (again, super cereal insider knowledge) the original plan was for Bram to win the Gauntlet for the Gold at BFG last year, turn face and challenge for the world title. Unfortunately, he had his legal problems so they had to push back the plans.

Speaking of Decay, is it just me..... or did Rosemary get REALLY hot recently? She changed up on the make up (somewhat), showing off her body alittle more (what she was wearing at Slammiversary :drool:) and is doing something different with her hair....

[Simple Fan]

Justifies treating the belt like it's shit.


It fits with Bennett's character and it could end up putting Eddie Edwards over if he beats him. Couldn't see Eddie cashing in Option C though.

[Simple Fan]

Is Aiden O'Shea still with TNA? Could see Bram teaming with him to combat Decay.

[Rollermacka]

I like O'Shea as well, not sure why he hasn't really been used recently. I really liked his match against Spud at the Live ONO PPV.

I like Al Snow's "wrestling roots" gimmick, it would of been cool if he had recruited O'Shea as his enforcer. Considering O'Shea been wrestling for a long time, he could be "bitter" that Grado and Shera are getting opportunities not him. Plus, he's a throwback style wrestler so it would kind of fit too.

[Simple Fan]

I'd at they just don't have anything for him so him joining Bram would work I think. They also signed Caleb Konley but reportedly they don't have anything for him either.

[Rollermacka]

I'd at they just don't have anything for him so him joining Bram would work I think. They also signed Caleb Konley but reportedly they don't have anything for him either.

I could see Konley in the X division, he's not a HUGE guy, so he'd fit there nicely as a heel

[Simple Fan]

Think Monkey would be great for the X division. They also have a guy named Marshe Rocket or something like that get to debut. He's a tall skinny black guy but I've never seen any of his stuff. With Destination X coming up I could see them debuting to build up the X division a bit more.

[Rollermacka]

Think Monkey would be great for the X division. They also have a guy named Marshe Rocket or something like that get to debut. He's a tall skinny black guy but I've never seen any of his stuff. With Destination X coming up I could see them debuting to build up the X division a bit more.

Lol, Monkey.....


I've talked to friends who have worked with the black guy, he's a good, well rounded talent from what people have told me. He's actually a pretty big guy (kinda built like Drew Galloway but alittle leaner) They MAY be waiting to debut him and Konley so that it doesn't take away from Braxton and the Tribunal's debuts.

[Simple Fan]

Yeah auto correct changed Konley to monkey.

True about waiting, Rockette doesnt have a Wikipedia page but his faction The Soul Touchas do and it list him as 6'4 215lbs. Would like to see the X Divison get back to where it used to be, a few guys that are bigger but can fly like Konley and Rockett would help the divison a lot. At least I hope a guy named Rockett would be a high flyer.

[Rollermacka]

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I found a match, he's the one in trunks. Looking at where the ropes are on him, he's got some size.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It fits with Bennett's character and it could end up putting Eddie Edwards over if he beats him. Couldn't see Eddie cashing in Option C though.

They could achieve putting Eddie over Bennett by putting Eddie over Bennett. Edwards had ready-made stuff to go in the X-Division with guys like Trevor Lee, Andrew Everett, Gregory Helms, Zema Ion, etc. Edwards vs. Lashley would be an intriguing match-up that at least has a face vs. heel dynamic. You can have Davey Richards sitting in the crowd cheering on his buddy. Lashley can murderize Eddie and maybe spit on the injured Davey just for some extra heat.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like the idea of Al Snow managing Aiden O'Shea. Grado and Shera can job the fuck right out to him.

[Rollermacka]

I like the idea of Al Snow managing Aiden O'Shea. Grado and Shera can job the fuck right out to him.

Something I didn't know until someone told me, Shera is only 25 years old..... I thought he was like 30. That actually does give me a little more hope for him. I still like the idea of an "Indian Monster team", I was informed at Khali has TWO students in India that are young and around 7 ft tall. Considering they have a working relationship with his school, it could be a possibility (both are former basketball players so they're tall and lean)

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, he's really young. He's been in the spotlight since he basically started to wrestle. He should go to OVW or get some time abroad so he actually gets good. He's not a dead horse just yet, but he will be if they keep beating him.

[Simple Fan]

POP TV and TNA announced this afternoon that they are moving TNA iMPACT! Wrestling to 8PM ET on Thursday nights, starting on July 21st. The move was expected, with SmackDown moving to Tuesday nights and going live, starting on July 19th…

[erickman]

so impact and smackdown are switching timeslots, good to see we get wrestling mon through fri from raw to new japan

[Simple Fan]

Moose made his TNA debut last night joining The Miracle Mike Bennett ruin Destination X in the main event. Really thought they would change his name but I'm fine with him staying Moose.

[Rollermacka]

Moose made his TNA debut last night joining The Miracle Mike Bennett ruin Destination X in the main event. Really thought they would change his name but I'm fine with him staying Moose.

I think this was a really strong acquisition for TNA. I love Abyss, but he is getting up there in age (his body looked like it was really hurting him last night). Moose is the "new breed" of big man (not 450 lbs... but still imposing and can move like he's half his size) it wouldn't be bad to start grooming some new "monsters" for the future of TNA

[Simple Fan]

Yeah it's a great signing and I look for him to do well in TNA. Could see him starting in the X Division as Bennett's answer to his X Division failures. Easily sets up a face turn when he turns on Bennett.

[Simple Fan]

Bobby Lashley won the X Division title last night. I'm hoping Moose takes it off him and becomes that big guy that dominates the X Division .

[Mr. Nerfect]

Moose going to TNA isn't a surprise. He has domestic violence in his history, so I can understand the WWE distancing themselves from him. I don't know if I'd have debuted him as a lackey though.

Also, why the fuck is Bobby Lashley X-Division Champion? This shit sounds incredibly stupid.

[Simple Fan]

Eddie didn't take option C and instead put the X Division title on the line with the Heavyweight title so the winner took both titles. I like it, they have already planted the seeds for Lashley vs Moose and I could see it being for the X Division title. Moose could be the new Samoa Joe of the X Division.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So Moose pins the World Champion to win a secondary title. Brilliant.

[Mr. Nerfect]

None of this makes me want to watch TNA, which is what they desperately need to do right now. Eddie Edwards as X-Division Champion could have done that. If they didn't want him to go after the World Title, they could have just had him say he wants to represent the X-Division. Just because you have an idea doesn't mean you need to follow it.

[Simple Fan]

I thought it was great for Eddie and he got to be in the main event with Lashley. It's kind of like Lethal holding the TV and World titles in ROH and I wasn't the biggest fan of him losing the TV title but they made it work. Davey Richards is close to being back so I'd say they want the Wolves back in the tag division that is pretty weak at the moment.

[Simple Fan]

None of this makes me want to watch TNA, which is what they desperately need to do right now. Eddie Edwards as X-Division Champion could have done that. If they didn't want him to go after the World Title, they could have just had him say he wants to represent the X-Division. Just because you have an idea doesn't mean you need to follow it.

He was going after the World Title both titles were on the line.

[XL]

Moose better be an A+ in the ring or on the mic cos at the minute he just looks like a flabbier Lashley.

[Simple Fan]

He's not had a whole lot of time on the mic in ROH as he was mostly with Prince Nana or Stoakly Hathaway. He has gotten better in the ring in the last year. His style is way different than Lashley as he's a lot more agile and tends to do more dives. Wouldn't call him A+ at either, a solid B- I'd say with potential to be A+.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He was going after the World Title both titles were on the line.

I know what DID happen, I'm just saying it shouldn't have happened. If they really wanted a Lashley vs. Eddie Edwards match, there are other ways to go about it:

1) Lashley is expecting Edwards to challenge for the World Title; Edwards declines. Lashley claims that Edwards is scared; Edwards says he wants to represent the X-Division. Lashley gets cocky and says he'll put the World Title on the line without Option C being invoked.

2) Edwards uses Option C. It's there for a reason. Eddie takes Bobby to the limit, but eventually loses. As a result, Edwards is no longer the X-Division Champion and has to re-contend.

Those are just off the top of my head.

[Simple Fan]

I don't know I kind of like Bobby holding both belts. It gives his character more to brag about and now he can roll through the X Division contenders while the Bound for Glory Playoff is going on. I really like the thought of Moose as the X Divison Champion so I want to see Moose win it somehow, wouldn't necessarily need to be clean.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You're allowed to like it, but objectively speaking it demolishes the division. The champion is going to have to be beaten to lose one of his belts, and that's always the problem with having a guy holding two at a time.

[Simple Fan]

I will say that Jay Lethal's corn row's make him look like a bum. He should be as extravagant as Okada. Come off like a bigger star, he comes off pretty basic in his entrance.

No more corn rolls for Lethal now. Adam Cole shaved them off on ROH TV this week. Cut the little tail in the back off with scissors first then took the clippers to the rest.

[Simple Fan]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Such a simple angle that people can really relate to and can be used to build heat between the two. I wonder if that was a Kevin Sullivan idea?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I know Adam Cole is supposed to be really great, but I kind of want the reign of Jay Lethal to go on forever, and for him to be what was suggested -- an American Okada.

[Simple Fan]

Such a simple angle that people can really relate to and can be used to build heat between the two. I wonder if that was a Kevin Sullivan idea?

Probably, Sullivan has actually been on ROH TV the last couple weeks. He is helping BJ Whitmer in his feud with Steve Corino.

[Simple Fan]

I know Adam Cole is supposed to be really great, but I kind of want the reign of Jay Lethal to go on forever, and for him to be what was suggested -- an American Okada.

With Cole being high on Vince McMahon's wish list I'd say he'll be in NXT when his contract is up next year. Not sure ROH would actually give him a title run with him on his way out. Could be just rumors though. They are slowly turning Lethal face so his run could go on for a bit longer I believe.

[Simple Fan]

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[Simple Fan]

Moose has been on ROH TV and Impact the last 2 weeks. Face in ROH and heel in TNA. This week might be his last on ROH. He beat P Dog a white rapper in a squash match and then Donavan Dyjak came out and they had a match where Moose did the job.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I imagine Adam Cole will get an offer, but it might be smarter for him to stay working in ROH and New Japan for a little while more to get even more polish. That being said, I still don't want him to win the ROH World Title. Not out of any personal gripe, I just think The Era of Lethal should continue.

[Simple Fan]

I agree and am a big Adam Cole fan. Right now he can't have a title match as long as Nigel is the match maker. So him going to Japan and winning gold over there would be cool. Although I have seen future cards that have Cole in a title match so I'm not sure how that story will play out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I imagine Lethal is going to request the match because he is a bad-ass. But that does lend itself to Lethal losing. Hmm.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I guess I'd be okay with it.

[Simple Fan]

I imagine Lethal is going to request the match because he is a bad-ass. But that does lend itself to Lethal losing. Hmm.

Could be, The House of Truth doesn't have the numbers to combat the Bullet Club either anymore after Dyjak leaving. Could see Cole with the title and Bullet Club running through ROH. Matt Taven keeps talking about bringing in a new Kindom on commentary so I'm interested to see who he gets to be in it.

[Simple Fan]

lol. Matt Hardy just pulled a fan out of the stands and bit him. Chuck Taylor on Impact this week teaming with JT Dunn, supposed to be a tag match but Matt's not participating just shouting things and eating fans. Jeff wasn't allowed to go to the top rope and when he did Matt got in the ring twist of feated him, tag himself in and took the win.

Lashley going for all the gold as he faces James Storm for the King of the Mountian Championship next week.

[Rollermacka]

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Thankfully this gif is still first.....

lol. Matt Hardy just pulled a fan out of the stands and bit him. Chuck Taylor on Impact this week teaming with JT Dunn, supposed to be a tag match but Matt's not participating just shouting things and eating fans. Jeff wasn't allowed to go to the top rope and when he did Matt got in the ring twist of feated him, tag himself in and took the win.

Is it just me.... or is it kinda "strange" to see well know indie talent being used in TNA? Guys like JT Dunn, Chuck Taylor, and last week David Starr are some of the bigger names on the indie scene in the north east, and they're kinda given alittle room in these matches to showcase what they can do. As opposed to RAW, where "guy with no chin" gets crushed by Strowman in 30 seconds.....

[Simple Fan]

Yeah, Chuck Taylor's one of my favorite independent wrestlers so I was glad to see them get some time in the ring. Really should just sign those guys and throw them in the X Division and see if they can make some magic happen but they have guys like Caleb Konley who they can't find anything to do so maybe not.

[Simple Fan]

Thankfully this gif is still first.....

She is the First Lady of Professional Wrestling.

[Rollermacka]

Yeah, Chuck Taylor's one of my favorite independent wrestlers so I was glad to see them get some time in the ring. Really should just sign those guys and throw them in the X Division and see if they can make some magic happen but they have guys like Caleb Konley who they can't find anything to do so maybe not.

I heard they shot their "One Night Only X Division" show recently so I'd expect that's why those guys were there (along with Konely and the Rocket guy who haven't debuted yet)

I could see Dunn and Starr in TNA, Juicy Product is a pretty well known team on the Indies and would be a good addition to the tag team division. TNA needs more tag teams and they have a strong following. TNA really needs established teams to help strengthen that division

Speaking of which, hopefully they're done with Grado/ Shera vs the Tribunal. I like both teams but I feel like this feud has been going on forever.... I think Grado/ Shera vs Decay would be extremely entertaining. Just for Grado acting like a goof and being udderly terrified of the Decay (and eventually overcoming his fear and facing them)

Finally, I mentioned in another post...... I really disliked the Bram/ Rosemary segments. I was watching them with this chick (who really doesn't watch wrestling) and she kept asking me "why are they showing these? Is this apart of wrestling?".... I would have to agree with her

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think it's time for Grado and Shera to be booked in a feud in a Double Deportation Match. Double Countout and they are both sent home packing.

[Simple Fan]

I imagine Lethal is going to request the match because he is a bad-ass. But that does lend itself to Lethal losing. Hmm.

You were right. Lethal asked Nigel to lift his ban on Adam Cole but he wouldnt do it. Cole came out and him and Lethal went back and forth and Nigel finally made the match for Death before Dishonor.

[Simple Fan]

The Bram/Rosmary segments I didn't like as much this week. Kind of dragged on just for her to be heart broken or what ever. Did she kill a guy? I liked Abyss and Steve's part though.

I hate Grado, if he's going to be around I'd rather have Odarg. Shera has potential of they would take him serious and drop the dancing Indian shit. I've said it before but I'd like to see him in the X Division as a Somoa Joe type.

I've been impressed with Tribunal, didn't watch a lot of them in NXT but I'm not sure what WWE didn't see in them but it could just be them working with Al Snow. I think they're better than the Vaudevillians and the Ascension though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You were right. Lethal asked Nigel to lift his ban on Adam Cole but he wouldnt do it. Cole came out and him and Lethal went back and forth and Nigel finally made the match for Death before Dishonor.

Hmm. It'll be interesting to see who walks out of that one champion. I wonder if we'll see a swerve and Cole wins the belt and it is Lethal who ends up going to WWE?

[Rollermacka]

SUPPOSEDLY, Damien Sandow is debuting tomorrow on Impact.... Seeing how well guys like EC3 and Galloway are doing now that they seem to have more "freedom", I'd be interested to see how he does in TNA

[Simple Fan]

Yeah, should be interesting, is Impact simi live tomorrow?

[Rollermacka]

Yeah, should be interesting, is Impact simi live tomorrow?

They might be live... Via Satellite

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[erickman]

Yeah, should be interesting, is Impact simi live tomorrow?

yeah pop tv better not mess it up this time, I wonder who sandow will fued with drew maby

[Simple Fan]

yeah pop tv better not mess it up this time, I wonder who sandow will fued with drew maby

Agreed I love That 70s Show but damn that loop. As for Sandow I'm not sure, maybe Eli Drake.

[Big Vic]

SUPPOSEDLY, Damien Sandow is debuting tomorrow on Impact.... Seeing how well guys like EC3 and Galloway are doing now that they seem to have more "freedom", I'd be interested to see how he does in TNA
How was it? was he in good shape?

[Rollermacka]

How was it? was he in good shape?

He looked good. He was wearing a dress shirt but he shaved the beard and I didn't see any "extra chins" or really puffy cheeks. (he's never been a "body guy" but friends of mine were on a show with him in Jersey a couple weeks ago, said he looked good)

Promo.... not bad, just kinda too face-y for me. Said "I'm not gonna mention my previous employer, then proceeds to talk about them for 10 mins" talked about wrestling for the fans and how TNA is an even playing field. Like I said, by no means bad, just felt it could of been better IMO (or even better, let him talk for like 2 mins, let some random low level heel interrupt him, then attack and Sandow clears the ring and tears off the shirt)

[Simple Fan]

Spoiler for next week's Impact involving the King of the Mountain Championship

It's now the TNA Grand Championship
http://www.pwmania.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/tna-grandslam-title.jpg

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/739525-spoilers-tna-retires-king-of-the-mountain-title-unveils-new-championship-at-tonights-tv-tapings

An 8-man single elimination tournament was announced featuring the new rules that will apply to this title. Each match will actually be three timed matches, so basically UFC style, with a team of judges to award the win based on points, if it goes the distance.

[Simple Fan]

I actually like the design but just not sure about the rules. A simple mid card title would do, they already proved with the King of the Mountain Championship that they won't maintain the gimmick and it will be defended in regular matches before long.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA don't even have a credible main title. Why are they worried about their supplementary belts?

[Simple Fan]

The TNA World Heavyweight Title has been combined with the King of the Mountain Championship and this is a new title I guess. It looks cool as hell but the MMA gimmick I'm not sure about.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Some additional thoughts after the latest set of tapings:

* Bobby Lashley just threw down the X-Division Title? Oh boy.

* Having the three rounds is a bit cheesy and convoluted, but I can understand that they want to shake their product up and need to have these guys bounce off each other in unique ways. That being said, they could have tried out the concept before bringing in a new belt and automatically assuming it will catch on. TNA needs to have some MOTY candidates and garner some good will towards them -- I don't see this being the answer.

* TNA sucks.

* Zema Ion just won the belt that was discarded as an afterthought.

* They turned Drew Galloway heel and Mike Bennett babyface? Oh boy.

* There was a Fingerpoke of Doom spot for the Knockout's Title. Oh boy.

[Simple Fan]

ROH Death Before Dishonor results.
JAY WHITE VS. LIO RUSH VS. DONOVAN DIJAK VS. KAMAITACHI FOR THE TOP CONTENDER FOR THE TV TITLE

Dijak got the pin on Rush using feast your eyes, which is a fireman's carry into a knee, like a GTS but not exactly. All action match. Rush was the flashiest of the four with several dives including a reverse huracanrans on the floor. Dijak, who was twice hte size of the other three, did a springboard screw plancha. Looks like we're having trouble witht he mic'ing but there were chants and stuff.

Silas Young did an interview anti-New Japan saying New Japan guys get all the good spots when they come in and made fun of all the fans being nerds.

KATSUYORI SHIBATA VS. SILAS YOUNG

The crowd reacted real big for Shibata, Shibata won as expected with the choke and penalty kick. Young got a lot of offense including a split legged moonsault. The two traded slaps after the match and then shook hands and stared each other down after the match. Match was fine, they built to a big spot where Shibata was about to head-butt Young but Young slapped him.

TAMA TONGA & TANGA ROA & YUJIRO TAKAHASHI VS. ROCKY ROMERO & BARETTA & TORU YANO

This was mostly built around Yano's comedy. Yano pinned Takahashi with a low blow. After the match, The Bulet Club beat down Chaos and in paricular Yano. Hangman Page put the noose on Yano's neck until Jay Briscoe made the savae. This set up Briscoe vs. Page

JAY BRISCOE VS. HANGMAN PAGE IN AN ANYTHING GOES MATCH

This was a long brutal match. This was to put Page over on Jay and make him a star. The finish saw Page block a Jay driller on the apron and instead used the rights of passage, which is an Omori driver on Jay through the table. Both were hurt as the table took a chunk out of Page's left knee and Jay was bleeding badly from the back. Page then used the bullrope to choke Briscoe out and then gave him another rights of passage in the ring for the pin. They put it over like this was the biggest win in Page's career. There were lots of spots with the noose and with chairs throguhout the match. The crowd seemed like they really liked it. We'll try and see how Page is because he was screaming in pain regarding his knee, finished the match and seemed like he was hurting bbad as soon as it was over.

The Boys had the Okada dollar bills and Castle said he understands The Boys love New Japan. He said he loves New Japan but he loves dropping people on their heads and ate an Okada bill.

KAZUCHIKA OKADA VS. DALTON CASTLE

The crowd loved Okada. They're chanting his name and throwing streamers. Good match although it struggled early. Castle got a lot of offense but the fans never truly believed he could win. He even did the bang a rang but Okada rolled out of the ring to avoid the pin. Castle did a lot of different suplexes. They teased that The Boys were big Okada fans and at one point they were helping him. Okada won getting out of the bang a rang, hit the tombstone piledriver and rainmaker for the pin. Both shook hands after and both men and The Boys all posed together at the end.

BOBBY FISH VS. MARK BRISCOE FOR THE TV TITLE

Fish retained with an exploder into the turnbuckles and a falcon arrow. Earlier Briscoe kicked out of the falcon arrow and Fish kicked out of the froggy bow. This was solid and the crowd did some chants but something was missing. It was hard hitting early and went long with the near falls. Not sure if the crowd micing is hurting this or it's the crowd into moves but not the match. Hard to say from TV. It's also seemed like the crowd was more into seeing New Japan stars live than seeing ROH major matches.

CHRISTOPHER DANIELS & FRANKIE KAZARIAN VS. HIROSHI TANAHASHI & MICHAEL ELGIN VS. TETSUYA NAITO & EVIL FOR TAG TITLES

Daniels & Kazarian retained in a great match with a clever finish. Tanahashi was on the top rope and Daniels touched his boot as a tag. Tanahashi hit the high fly flow on Evil and went for the pin but technically Daniels was the legal guy and he jumped in and cradled Evil while Tanahashi was on top so they retained the titles. Matt Taven did the heel commentary trying to be obnoxious and did a real good job of that. Elgin was the star of the match doing all kinds of power moves like a German suplex on Daniels & Kazarian at the same time, the fallaway on Naito & Evil at the same time and he even did a running flip dive on everyone. Naito and Tanahashi were really over with the crowd. Tanahashi & Elgin seemed on the verge of winning when Kamaitachi came out and distracted which allowed Daniels to hit both Tanahashi & Elgin with belt shots and Kazarian to hit Evil with one.

JAY LETHAL VS. ADAM COLE FOR THE ROH TITLE

Cole ended the one year plus title reign after an Ushigoroshi, a shining wizard and another Ushigoroshi. The match saw them kick out of each others' big moves including Lethal kicking out of the Canadian Destroyer off the ropes and Cole kicked out of the Lethal injection. Long match and crowd loved it at the end with the fans on their feet and going crazy for the near falls. Afte the match Kyle O'Reilly showed up durign the celebration and cltheslined Cole. O'reilly laid himn out with a brainbustrer so it looks like Cole vs. O'Reilly coming up at All-Star Extravaganza at the end of next month. Among the highlights were Lethal doing an elbow off the top rope to a table on the floor about two-thirds of the way to the other side and Cole moved and Lethal crashed through and busted his head open. It took forever to set up the spot because Lethal couldn't find where the table was under the ring and when he did find it, it was covered in streamers and he had to get rid of the streamres. Lethal also did five straight topes, but on the sixth Cole sidestepped him and Lethal crashed into the barricade

[Big Vic]

I think Cole also has the Lineal WWE title as well? I'd have to check that thread though.

[Dewidi]

can somebody tell me what the hell billy"i'm a old rockstar"corrigan knows about being president of a wrestling organisation? aftleast jeff jarret knew enough to run it as its owner corrigan has no idea what he's doing in my opion y'all might think diffferently but this is just 1 persons opinion

[Simple Fan]

He had a small promotion a few years ago. Anyone is better than Dixie.

[Simple Fan]

I think Cole also has the Lineal WWE title as well? I'd have to check that thread though.

From what I gathered it's Prince Mustafa Ali as of right now for the singles matches. Has had some matches in NXT and the CWC but that was before he beat AR Fox for the Lineal title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Holy shit, if Mustafa Ali got signed and waltzed out proclaiming to be the lineal WWE Champion, I would mark out. He could claim there is a conspiracy against him because of his race. Massive heat. Have him get his own belt made.

[Dewidi]

He had a small promotion a few years ago. Anyone is better than Dixie.
ttrue that and incase anyone else is wondering why "broken" Matt Hardy is call his brother jefff brother Nero it's because Nero is Jeff's middle name.
also i see abosulely no resemblance between Bray Wyatt and broken Matt like hardy says there is on twitter

[Simple Fan]

He was talking g about the Wyatt Compund segment with New Day that was clearly a rip off of the Final Deletion.

[Dewidi]

He was talking g about the Wyatt Compund segment with New Day that was clearly a rip off of the Final Deletion.
unfortunitly i didn't see the wyatt new day scenario i'm getting physical therapy for 2 back surgeries and the have a severely limited number of tv channels.
but none of them a des america or usa so i watch the next day on youtube.
so i'm s.o.l on watching wrestling or anything good.

[Simple Fan]

TNA is on Pop now but if they don't get USA they probably don't have Pop. YouTube still probably your best option.

[Simple Fan]

http://www.pwmania.com/backstage-news-and-speculation-suggesting-dixie-carter-is-on-her-way-out-of-tna

A new report suggests that Dixie Carter may be on her way out of TNA. Despite what is being said publicly, Carter’s is now “completely” out of power and “pretty much on her way out,” the Wrestling Observer reports.

[Simple Fan]

Damn one to early.

[Simple Fan]

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[Simple Fan]

Ring of Honor is supposed to be announcing a new title for the promotion on Tuesday. Could be a women's title, don't really need another mid card title I don't think.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Good job putting Maria's ass at the top. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I really don't like the TV Title in ROH. Given how people digest their media these days, the idea of a TV Title at all feels antiquated. It's also way too similar to the World Title. I'd be fine with them having World, Tag Team and Women's, provided they had the women for a division and that division was over and people wanted to see them fight over something.

I'd be fine with the Pure Title coming back too. I really associate that belt with good wrestlers getting to explore drama in their matches in different ways. I don't know if AJ Styles, CM Punk, Daniel Bryan or Nigel McGuinness would credit working within that paradigm for their eventual development, but I don't think it fucking hurt them. ROH is also associated with that ring style, but with the WWE, particularly NXT, picking it up, ROH needs something that sets itself apart. A Pure Title that allows guys to construct their matches differently could be the answer.

I've always been fascinated by the idea of a belt that is defended in 2/3 Falls Matches for the longest time though. Just to test the drama of having a champion that goes on a "two-straight fall" streak, or develops a series of moves that is designed to put opponents away two straight. It would help buck the conventions of your average match, and also challenge the usual booking strategies between 2/3 Falls matches (one fall a-piece, quick first fall, etc.).

[Mr. Nerfect]

ROH World Title
ROH World Women's Championship
ROH World Tag Team Championship
ROH Pure Title
ROH Man Up Title (2/3 Falls)

[Simple Fan]

I could see it being the Pure Championship just for it's lineage. Guys like Styles, Lethal, Samoa Joe, and Daniel Bryan being former champions is pretty big for the title if it returns. With the CMLL and NJPW both being featured in ROH it wouldn't hurt to have another mid card title. Feel like they are pushing the Women of Honor though and it will be a Women's championship.

[Simple Fan]

It's a Six Man Championship

http://rohwrestling.com/news/roh-introduce-world-six-man-tag-team-championship

The inaugural ROH World Six-Man Tag Team Champions will be crowned in an eight-team tournament that begins at the end of September. This will be the first time in six years that ROH has created a new title.

Teams expected to compete in the tournament include: Bullet Club, The Cabinet (Rhett Titus, Kenny King and Caprice Coleman) and the current World Tag Team Champions The Addiction (Christopher Daniels and Frankie Kazarian) and Kamaitachi.

[Rollermacka]

Good job putting Maria's ass at the top. :y:

That gif shouldn't and hopefully never will die.


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So these are the other two guys who signed with the company back when TNA signed a bunch of new talents. I like both guys, Konley has been a standout for years. I don't know if we need "another cocky arrogant heel" in the X division. He's done some really good work with tag teams, Caleb would be a good trash talker in a team with a burly enforcer behind him.... Is Ayden O'Shea still around? (Maybe put him and Konley in matching trunks) I liked Rocket, he's kind of a big dude to be in the X Division but he does move very well and it goes to the "no limits" idea.

[Simple Fan]

Any word on them debuting on Impact any time soon? Big fan of Konley and think that he's a great heel for the X Division.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I didn't realize that ROH had the roster depth for this. I expect a few trios from CMLL to make appearances.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm going to say something a bit controversial -- I'm actually optimistic about TNA's future at the moment. Dixie Carter is gone. That woman did the best she could to choke the life out of TNA. The hiring of Kurt Angle coincided with the hiring of Vince Russo, which is a damn shame, because wrestling could be very different right now if Dixie wasn't naive enough to fall for that shit, and she trusted Dutch Mantel and Jim Cornette to run operations.

My opinion is still out on Corgan, but he could make some decent in-roads to rehiring someone who actually knows how to book and to at least give him ideas. Dutch is free. Please, please, PLEASE get him back. For those who don't know, Dutch was the guy behind the Women's Division in its early days with Kim and Kong and the guy behind Angle/Joe when it actually drew money.

There is a bevy of free agents that are dissatisfied with how the WWE treated them. They are hungry to prove themselves. Cody Rhodes is apparently working on a deal to go there, and he'll be taking Brandi. That's a great start. Alberto Del Rio, Paige, Ryback, Wade Barrett -- all of them have some measure of potential left. I'd sacrifice all of them, except maybe Paige, for Cesaro if he decides to leave WWE though.

Kurt Angle said he was taking a break, but he clearly was only taking a break from TNA. Bring him back, treat him like a god and build to a few matches a year for him. Try and court The Briscoes by allowing them to remain associated with ROH and New Japan. If you can get a Hardys vs. Briscoes match on PPV, you will draw money. If you have built up Bobby Lashley as a capable heel champion and crown Cesaro as a new babyface challenger with a win over Kurt Angle on this same PPV, you might be out of the gate a bit.

TNA has lost a lot of its bargaining power. Cody can basically pick his dates right now. But in a way this is good -- because TNA has always tried to run before it was walking properly. TNA is not WWE -- it doesn't need to own the brands of its wrestlers and it doesn't need to keep them locked in cellars when it isn't using them. TNA can be a promotion that works for the boys and girls that contribute to it, and it can lend its top talent to other promotions, build their prestige, bring them back fresh, and operate entirely different to the WWE. They can be babyfaces.

[Simple Fan]

ROH reportedly added 4 months to Adam Coles contract that would have expired at the end of the year for being injured last year. Could be a sign he's not going to resign and coming to WWE.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It could also be that Adam Cole doesn't want to jump to the WWE until he knows he'll be in the clear for something resembling a push. Signing around the Rumble time might lead to him "blending in." But there's still a lot that Cole can get out of New Japan and ROH for the moment -- especially New Japan -- and that will ultimately make him more valuable to the WWE.

[Simple Fan]

The 4 months added would put him at about April so it'd be after Mania before he could come to WWE which is probably better considering there will be a lot of NXT call ups around that time. Yeah still a lot he could do in ROH and NJPW and them teaming up to sign free agents helps their chance of keeping him a bit.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I imagine that he'll reassess when he sees how badly NXT needs him after Shinsuke Nakamura, Bobby Roode, Samoa Joe and possibly a few others have made themselves comfortable on the main roster.

[Rollermacka]

I think it was a good idea turning Drew heel. With Moose turning face and Rex coming in, they need more strong heels in the company (especially with Broken Matt becoming a face). I have a few mutual friends in TNA and they said Rex coming in was in part to Drew (him and Drew are really close friends)
With that said.... I'm not a fan of "emo Drew". Drew is a great heel in ICW. He's got a stable built around him, very similar to the "chosen one" gimmick in WWE. I'd rather see him as more of a cocky arrogant heel than what he's doing now...

[Mr. Nerfect]

How was Galloway doing as a babyface? I've always liked the guy. He's grown into those big paws he has in the ring and even earned himself some praise from Bret Hart while he was still in WWE. He'll return bigger and better one day.

He does seem more naturally suited to being a heel. My big problem with it is that he sort of turned babyface quite recently didn't he? Plus, he's turning to face a newcomer. I don't believe in too many fixed rules in pro-wrestling, but generally speaking, I think it's always good to give someone who turns a victory in their program, because otherwise why did they turn? You don't start a fire by pissing on the kindling, no matter how drunk you are.

How do you guys see Galloway vs. Rex going?

[Simple Fan]

Nah, Drew has been a face since he arrived in TNA. Had The Rising stable with Eli Drake and Micah(Tanga Roa/Camacho). Eli turned on him and Micah left to team with his brother in NJPW. If Rex and Galloway both make it to the finals of the tournament as they should I hope the championship match has longer than 3 minute rounds. 5 minute rounds would work.

[mike adamle]

He does seem more naturally suited to being a heel. My big problem with it is that he sort of turned babyface quite recently didn't he?


You've got a big problem with it, but don't even know that he's been face the whole time??? :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::roll::roll:

[mike adamle]

I don't believe in too many fixed rules in pro-wrestling, but generally speaking, I think it's always good to give someone who turns a victory in their program, because otherwise why did they turn? You don't start a fire by pissing on the kindling, no matter how drunk you are.

Come on. Stop with these dumbass dramatic analogies. "If you like WWE right now you like to eat shit." "If your don't give someone who just turned a win you might as well be trying to start a fire by drunk pissing on the kindling!"

Can't ya just be normal. The first part was fine. Then you have to add that stupid shit at the end that you know is just going to annoy people. It's obnoxious. Stop.

[mike adamle]

How do you guys see Galloway vs. Rex going?

Will be good, hope Drew wins though. "Rex" hasn't won me over the way Damien Sandow did in WWE, but it hasn't been very long yet either. I'll give it a chance.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nah, Drew has been a face since he arrived in TNA. Had The Rising stable with Eli Drake and Micah(Tanga Roa/Camacho). Eli turned on him and Micah left to team with his brother in NJPW. If Rex and Galloway both make it to the finals of the tournament as they should I hope the championship match has longer than 3 minute rounds. 5 minute rounds would work.

Oh, I didn't realize that. I thought he was part of a heel group at some point (probably that Rising one).

[Mr. Nerfect]

You've got a big problem with it, but don't even know that he's been face the whole time??? :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::roll::roll:

Really hard to make sense of what is going on in TNA a lot of the time. Bobby Lashley has turned like three times in the last two years. I think Matt Hardy was a heel for two months or so. For someone with a casual perspective, it is extremely easy to get lost.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Come on. Stop with these dumbass dramatic analogies. "If you like WWE right now you like to eat shit." "If your don't give someone who just turned a win you might as well be trying to start a fire by drunk pissing on the kindling!"

Can't ya just be normal. The first part was fine. Then you have to add that stupid shit at the end that you know is just going to annoy people. It's obnoxious. Stop.

:lol:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Will be good, hope Drew wins though. "Rex" hasn't won me over the way Damien Sandow did in WWE, but it hasn't been very long yet either. I'll give it a chance.

That's why this is a weird idea. Galloway is a fresh character, Rex is a fresh character -- something's gotta give. But now I'm hearing that they're not even booked against each other yet? Maybe they will give them different opponents? Who else is in this tournament?

[Rollermacka]

How was Galloway doing as a babyface? I've always liked the guy. He's grown into those big paws he has in the ring and even earned himself some praise from Bret Hart while he was still in WWE. He'll return bigger and better one day.

He does seem more naturally suited to being a heel. My big problem with it is that he sort of turned babyface quite recently didn't he? Plus, he's turning to face a newcomer. I don't believe in too many fixed rules in pro-wrestling, but generally speaking, I think it's always good to give someone who turns a victory in their program, because otherwise why did they turn? You don't start a fire by pissing on the kindling, no matter how drunk you are.

How do you guys see Galloway vs. Rex going?


Galloway was face since he debuted in the company in Jan 2015 so he was face for over a year and a half.

Matt was a heel from Jan this year up until about a month or so ago. He was one of the few times a heel character won over the crowd and became a face because a feud with another heel.

[XL]

C'mon Noid. You're one of my favourites here but you're making yourself look stupid here; you can't come into a thread trying to pick apart the booking and have no idea what's been going on for any part of the year. Please, man. I love you.

[mike adamle]

Thank you.

[Mr. Nerfect]

C'mon Noid. You're one of my favourites here but you're making yourself look stupid here; you can't come into a thread trying to pick apart the booking and have no idea what's been going on for any part of the year. Please, man. I love you.

I appreciate the point, but you don't need to see the entirety of a movie to know it is going to be shit. I've been following TNA loosely for as long as it has been around, and it's honestly hard to keep up with who is a face and who is a heel.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't think you even need to be an avid consumer of a product to understand why it doesn't appeal to you. Not being able to easily decipher who is a face and who is a heel because there is a turn every few weeks is actually a problem. Matt being a heel for six months is not a long time. Granted, maybe he got "over" and started getting cheered, so kudos to TNA for rolling with the punches, but it's still inconsistent storytelling to switch someone every so many months.

Does anyone care to dispute the Bobby Lashley turns? Didn't Moose turn after being there for about a month? Come on, guys. You only need to be acquainted roughly with the conventions of storytelling to know this isn't effective.

I don't need to go back and watch RAW from this past week to tell you that Kevin Owens losing a match as the Universal Champion this early into his run, in a Steel Cage Match, so close to Hell in a Cell, isn't exactly wonderful booking. I don't need to watch TNA every week to say "Holy fucking shit is this shit fucking confusing." Because it is.

Simple Fan, how many times have you, in the Impact threads, had to explain the rules of a Grand Championship match to people? Don't you think this speaks volumes about what they are doing?

And I'm sorry, but unless Drew Galloway isn't a fresh heel, and unless Aron Rex isn't a fresh babyface, I don't see how the overall point about this being counter-productive isn't valid. Does anyone care to dispute that? It's like when the crowds were chanting "Fire Russo!" and Dixie Carter took to the internet to say "Well, actually, Russo didn't even book it, so there." That's kinda missing the point...

By the way, the irony in this is that people act as if the start of 2015 until now is a long time for someone to retain a disposition in professional wrestling. I suppose these days it is.