RAW THREAD 4/9/2018 - 3 Way Match for the Universal Title

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm thinking Hardy & Wyatt.

[rez]

oh snap!

[Lock Jaw]

What's Bobby Lashley doing back out

[Dark One]

Miz continually getting roated by a 16 year old

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[Mr. Nerfect]

The Revival have never been big or looked too interesting. That was always a complaint around them. Ideally, you'd book around that.

[KIRA]

John Cena and Roman can form a new tag team and call themselves Whine time Players

[Dark One]

Matt Hardy continually talking to Andre the Giant's trophy is going to simultaneously be the best and worst thing to ever happen to that match.

[ClockShot]

That apron Bray is wearing is pissing me off.

[Mr. Nerfect]

God, Matt Hardy sucks so bad.

[Evil Vito]

Next week: Titus O'Neil, Apollo, and Dana Brooke vs. Matt Hardy, Bray Wyatt, and the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Trophy

[Emperor Smeat]

So WWE's grand plan to refresh Bray's character was to have him do everything he normally does except without Sister Abigail references.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Has anyone called Hardy & Wyatt "Eat & Delete" yet?

[rez]

Matt Hardy continually talking to Andre the Giant's trophy is going to simultaneously be the best and worst thing to ever happen to that match.

:love:

[Dark One]

That apron Bray is wearing is pissing me off.

It's a bib

[Bad News Gertner]

Turned on the show. Heard the crowd singing "he's got the whole world". That's about enough. I hope Russia nukes the building.

[Triple A]

Several Matt Hardy & Bray Wyatt vs. Sheamus & Cesaro matches and singles match combos impending...

[KIRA]

He's Got The Whole World in His Hands but just like the Christian God he sucks at it

[Mr. Nerfect]

Holy shit, Cole just burying Sheamus & Cesaro on television. This is a comedy geek division.

[Evil Vito]

The Lake of Reincarnation rid Bray of the succubus that was Sister Abigail

[RP]

Titus is terrible

[KIRA]

So between Bray and Matt who's leading here

[Anybody Thrilla]

Fuck Matt Hardy and fuck this match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Corey burying Titus.

[Loose Cannon]

RKO out of nowhere

[Lock Jaw]

Several Matt Hardy & Bray Wyatt vs. Sheamus & Cesaro matches and singles match combos impending...

oh no

[ClockShot]

Whatever.

[Emperor Smeat]

Match quality-wise, this tag eliminator tournament has been pretty horrible so far.

[RP]

Titus really needs to be fired. I'm stunned he still has a job.

[Dark One]

Fuck Matt Hardy and fuck this match.

I'm sorry that it wasn't the Ealy Brothers.

[Evil Vito]

Titus O'Neil is about to turn 41 and has somehow not improved a lick in the ring despite nearly 8 years on the main roster. Other than one random Superstars showing against Sheamus I cannot think of a single enjoyable Titus O'Neil match.

Dude would make a great ambassador and was doing good work in his sports agent-type managerial role. Stop making him wrestle for fuck's sake!

[Lock Jaw]

Titus really needs to be fired. I'm stunned he still has a job.

Very good PR guy outside the ring

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm sorry that it wasn't the Ealy Brothers.

Honestly would have preferred that.

[Loose Cannon]

How hasn't Sanity been called up yet???

[Dark One]

Titus O'Neil is about to turn 41 and has somehow not improved a lick in the ring despite nearly 8 years on the main roster. Other than one random Superstars showing against Sheamus I cannot think of a single enjoyable Titus O'Neil match.

Dude would make a great ambassador and was doing good work in his sports agent-type managerial role. Stop making him wrestle for fuck's sake!

Hey man

We don't play to people's strengths here any more. What do you think this is?

[Evil Vito]

Bray's pretty clearly just doing what Orton did to him.

Expect the Hardy Compound to be burned to ash before SummerSlam.

[KIRA]

All Things Considered I do like that but Lake of reincarnation gave Bray Wyatt an S&M butcher smock

[Dark One]

Bray's pretty clearly just doing what Orton did to him.

Expect the Hardy Compound to be burned to ash before SummerSlam.

It's okay. Mower of Lawns (NOT SENOR BENJAMIN YOU FUCKING RACISTS) will save the compound.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Alicia Fox is fine.

[Poit]

I'm sorry that it wasn't the Ealy Brothers.

The Ealy Brothers bother me. Like, their names are Gabriel and Uriel. Guys named after archangels should not be jobbers.

[Emperor Smeat]

Titus O'Neil is about to turn 41 and has somehow not improved a lick in the ring despite nearly 8 years on the main roster. Other than one random Superstars showing against Sheamus I cannot think of a single enjoyable Titus O'Neil match.

Dude would make a great ambassador and was doing good work in his sports agent-type managerial role. Stop making him wrestle for fuck's sake!

He had a few enjoyable matches as part of PTP but WWE waited too long to pull the trigger on a title run for them. His singles run on the other hand has been really unmemorable.

[Evil Vito]

Kevin Owens wins

El Generico debuts next week

[KIRA]

Titus O'Neil is about to turn 41 and has somehow not improved a lick in the ring despite nearly 8 years on the main roster. Other than one random Superstars showing against Sheamus I cannot think of a single enjoyable Titus O'Neil match.

Dude would make a great ambassador and was doing good work in his sports agent-type managerial role. Stop making him wrestle for fuck's sake!
He is a phenomenal Ambassador I don't know why they don't just keep him doing that

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kevin Owens wins

El Generico debuts next week

I think this is where it's going. I also agree with your assessment of Titus O'Neil.

[Dark One]

Kevin Owens wins

El Generico debuts next week

¿Dónde están los huérfanos?

[Emperor Smeat]

How hasn't Sanity been called up yet???

Considering Angle said he only has one roster spot left, they should be a lock for Smackdown now.

[KIRA]

Alicia Fox is fine.

ALICA FOX WHERE don't play with me dude.

[Mr. Nerfect]

She is working up a sweat in the Tapout commercial.

[KIRA]

She is working up a sweat in the Tapout commercial.

Oh ok. I had my hopes up

[screech]

This referee is orange.

[KIRA]

Is anybody else on Sky Sports getting 90 billion commercials

[KIRA]

Ok nvm

[Mr. Nerfect]

The WWE have regressed as far as their graphics and visual department goes.

[Evil Vito]

The loser of this match being promoted to NXT would be pretty cool

[ClockShot]

Uh, Welcome back to Monday Night Raw?

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: WWE forgot to turn the commentators mic back on from commercial

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've only been watching since a few segments ago, but I'm already "exhausted." It feels like there's a lot of waiting around and that things are way too long-winded.

[Lock Jaw]

Michael Cole not yelling BLUE THUNDER BOMB.......,

[Lock Jaw]

The loser of this match being promoted to NXT would be pretty cool

Was thinking the same

[KIRA]

When the fans chanted" fight Forever" at Owens and Sami Zayn they didn't know what they were doing.

[Lock Jaw]

Kurt Angle looking "shocked" @ his TV

[Mr. Nerfect]

Can kind of imagine someone like Lars Sullivan just running out and destroying both these guys for funsies.

[Lock Jaw]

"Moving pictures?!"

[Dark One]

So when are the Ealy brothers coming out

[Dark One]

Kurt Angle looking "shocked" @ his TV

He 100% forgot he booked this match.

[Lock Jaw]

Hate the "fight forever" chant...... first time I remember hearing it was during Zayn/Nakamura and I thought "wow this is great", and it was "far into the match".......

Now they chant it way too easily and often for matches......

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kurt Angle is going to hire them both because they showed they have heart.

[Dark One]

Hate the "fight forever" chant...... first time I remember hearing it was during Zayn/Nakamura and I thought "wow this is great", and it was "far into the match".......

Now they chant it way too easily and often for matches......

YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT
YOU DESERVE IT

[ClockShot]

Draw.

[Evil Vito]

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

[ClockShot]

Oh well.

HEY, TNA IS HIRING!

[Dark One]

I fucking love that twisting Fisherman's Superplex KO does.

Can't really explain why, but definitely one of my favorite all time moves.

[Emperor Smeat]

Guess back to NXT or this mythical land of TNA mentioned earlier for Sami and Owens.

[Lock Jaw]

Thought it was gonna end with no winner somehow.....

[KIRA]

This ref looks pretty jacked

[Bad News Gertner]

Worst crowd of the year. I had to turn the volume off.

[Dark One]

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[Dark One]

"Greetings my SIBLING! IT IS DELIGHTFUL to see you."

"Brah u weird"

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol:

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE will do this match every week.

[Lock Jaw]

Rollins should be wearing rainbow colours too

[KIRA]

Jeff Hardy is actively trying to steal Finn balor's thunder

[Lock Jaw]

Miz looking like Velveteen Dream turned white with this outfit

[Dark One]

Miz looking like Velveteen Dream turned white with this outfit

Miz a huge Naruto fan.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, Jeff is so fucking charismatic.

[Loose Cannon]

lol that Trio of Matt Jeff and Bray is pretty funny

[Frank Drebin]

19 more posts until 15k. An hour left.

HOLD ON FOLKS

HAPPY 20,000 POSTS, DARK ONE!!!

[Evil Vito]

lol I like that they pretty much just confirmed in one segment that Jeff was just pissing about and playing along with his big brother's crazy antics the whole time he was Brother Nero

[rez]

the look on fin and seth's faces. haha

[KIRA]

Miz looks like he could be a villian from The Incredibles

[Dark One]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Finn Balor and Seth Rollins were pretty funny until Finn started talking. Jeff shits all over Balor in the charisma department. So glad they're moving Jeff onwards and upwards.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jeff does "weird" better than Matt, and is also simultaneously cooler. It's unbelievable.

[DAMN iNATOR]

What's Bobby Lashley doing back out

Obviously Hell hasn't been calling his name or he would've fought Kane. :shifty:

[Lock Jaw]

Obviously Hell hasn't been calling his name or he would've fought Kane. :shifty:

I have no idea what this post means. Sorry.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Calling it now: KO and Sami both get drafted back to SDL next week and DB and Shane are forced to eat crow.

[Lock Jaw]

Finn Balor and Seth Rollins were pretty funny until Finn started talking. Jeff shits all over Balor in the charisma department. So glad they're moving Jeff onwards and upwards.

When they brought the Hardy Boyz back, it just felt like this is what they should have been doing all along.... Matt Hardy doing his own weird thing, and Jeff Hardy being "above it" being a singles dude.

I just wish they would give Jeff his singles theme.

[Dark One]

Hope we get a backstage segment of Heath Slater walking up to KO and Sami and saying "Guys, I know what it's like to not be wanted..."

And then they just beat the shit out of him.

[Lock Jaw]

Calling it now: KO and Sami both get drafted back to SDL next week and DB and Shane are forced to eat crow.

They aren't on any roster to be drafted from......

[KIRA]

Jeff does "weird" better than Matt, and is also simultaneously cooler. It's unbelievable.

Noid I hope he kissed you first. For the record I don't dislike Jeff Hardy at all

[Dark One]

When they brought the Hardy Boyz back, it just felt like this is what they should have been doing all along.... Matt Hardy doing his own weird thing, and Jeff Hardy being "above it" being a singles dude.

I just wish they would give Jeff his singles theme.

I got you brah.

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ONE MORE POST TO GO. OH GOD. I HAVE TO MAKE IT IMPORTANT. SHIT.

[ClockShot]

Oh yeah. Raw's in Hartford next week.

I wonder if there's still tickets.

[Lock Jaw]

Does Daniel Bryan get to continue being GM despite being an active rassler again? Seems like a "conflict of interest"........

[DAMN iNATOR]

I have no idea what this post means. Sorry.

I was riffing on the name of his last WWE theme that he used like twice, so I understand.

FkqLurdUiPs

[Mr. Nerfect]

What the fuck was with that comment by Graves?

[Evil Vito]

Hahaha they had Bobby Lashley on the Raw side of the Superstar Shakeup graphic. That would be hilarious if they immediately traded him.

[Lock Jaw]

Finn Balor/Cathy Kelly def a "sham relationship"...... or just a "platonic good friendship"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kind of feel like a heel turn for Balor is turning heel, but they're really pushing him as this gay icon. I dunno.

[Evil Vito]

I can only assume Cathy Kelley has a heavenly vagina

[KIRA]

I wonder if it was a direct order for Balor to do the whole LGBT thing I know he's probably cool with it regardless but to promote it with his gear and stuff

[Anybody Thrilla]

You can hear Seth calling spots.

[Loose Cannon]

um Seth just got caught talking

[KIRA]

Kind of feel like a heel turn for Balor is turning heel, but they're really pushing him as this gay icon. I dunno.

The leather jacket the close-up nut shots his penchant for theatricality

[Evil Vito]

Now that they're finally having their blowoff match next week I have to assume one of Bayley or Sasha will go to SmackDown.

[owenbrown]

Oh yeah. Raw's in Hartford next week.

I wonder if there's still tickets.

Why does this superstar shakeup or the WWE drafts always seem to be in Hartford to me is it because they want to be that close to WWE HQ?

[Dark One]

um Seth just got caught talking

Well John Cena is dead so someone has to do it.

(I can't believe this is my 15k)

[Anybody Thrilla]

You can hear Seth calling spots.

Something about "take the head" followed by a headlock, then "drop down" followed by a drop down.

[Lock Jaw]

HAPPY 10,000 POSTS, DARK ONE!!!!!!

[KIRA]

Does Daniel Bryan get to continue being GM despite being an active rassler again? Seems like a "conflict of interest"........
I asked the same thing last week

[Mr. Nerfect]

Probably the most obvious spot-calling I've ever heard. I actually normally don't notice shit unless someone fucks up and they get pissed off, haha.

[Dark One]

HAPPY 10,000 POSTS, DARK ONE!!!!!!

I wonder what my 10,000th post was.

Probably a GIF.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Fifteen thousand posts??? HAHAHAHA, what a loser. Cough.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I still love Curtis Axel. Fuck you all.

[Dark One]

Fifteen thousand posts??? HAHAHAHA, what a loser. Cough.

To be fair, like 3700 of them have been in this thread.

[Evil Vito]

Shit, Curtis Axel is 38?

Actually not sure why I'm surprised given that, just like Titus, he's been on the main roster for nearly 8 years haha.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Balor would probably do the rainbow thing if he were straight, but I wouldn't be surprised if he were bisexual or something. Good for him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Shit, Curtis Axel is 38?

Actually not sure why I'm surprised given that, just like Titus, he's been on the main roster for nearly 8 years haha.

He started late too.

[KIRA]

I would love for the good Brothers rush the ring and help Finn Balor layout everyone they must also be sporting rainbow gear of course

[Dark One]

I still love Curtis Axel. Fuck you all.

http://i.imgur.com/uCxfTXo.gif

[KIRA]

Shit, Curtis Axel is 38?

Actually not sure why I'm surprised given that, just like Titus, he's been on the main roster for nearly 8 years haha.

Holy s*** I thought it was way younger than that

[Dark One]

Shit, Curtis Axel is 38?

Actually not sure why I'm surprised given that, just like Titus, he's been on the main roster for nearly 8 years haha.

His soccer dad outfit in the Miztourage has made him look mid-40s for the past year.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They're doing something with Finn. You'd think. WWE commentary is hard to decode.

[Dark One]

Please have Miz go back to SD so we can get that D-Bry / Miz match we've wanted for the past 18 months.

[Frank Drebin]

http://i.imgur.com/uCxfTXo.gif

This feels like it was 20 years ago. Too bad we don't get his theme anymore. Loved the Mr. Perfect remix.

[Loose Cannon]

I confuse Bo Dallas with Rhyno all the time.

[Dark One]

I confuse Bo Dallas with Rhyno all the time.

Bo Dallas is Rhyno's half-brother that lives in an even shittier trailer park.

[Evil Vito]

Feel like Baron Corbin is gonna end up on Raw but then they'll send Big Cass to SmackDown to even out the Suck Factor.

[Dark One]

"Burn it down" was also what people were chanting during last night's main event.

[KIRA]

This feels like it was 20 years ago. Too bad we don't get his theme anymore. Loved the Mr. Perfect remix.

This right here is a moment the moment of the Genesis of McGillicuddy

[ClockShot]

This is how they're ending the show?

[Anybody Thrilla]

Grinn Balor needs to calm down with the smiling.

[Evil Vito]

Dallas takes a Coup de Grace and Swanton only to immediately get up with no hesitation just to be in Curbstomp position.

[Dark One]

This right here is a moment the moment of the Genesis of McGillicuddy

No.

This right here is the beginning of the moment that is the start of the beginning of the moment that's the start of the moment that will be the start of the genesis of McGillicutty.

[Emperor Smeat]

So are they writing out the Miztourage since that's what this post-match beating feels like.

Or maybe trading them to Smackdown.

[Dark One]

So are they writing out the Miztourage since that's what this post-match beating feels like.

Or maybe trading them to Smackdown.

Possibly killing the Tourage for when Miz goes to Smackdown to get his face kicked off.

[KIRA]

Poor axel

[Evil Vito]

Really is annoying how the commentary always has to have one person that they tell to shut up all the time.

[Dark One]

See you all tomorrow night for the Ealy brothers' call up.

[KIRA]

Well I'm off to go watch Devilman crybaby to see what all the fuss is about catch you guys on SmackDown

[Mr. Nerfect]

Holy shit, was that really the end? That felt like a send-off for The Miztourage and I'm sure the roster changes. Honestly, Jeff Hardy to SmackDown feels like something they will do. Maybe Balor too? I don't know.

[DAMN iNATOR]

They aren't on any roster to be drafted from......

They'll be drafted like an RKO.

From out of nowhere.

[Evil Vito]

Bryan trading for Miz now that he's medically cleared to kick his head in is something that definitely needs to be happening.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Rampage looks pretty good.

[RP]

I bet Bryan gets drafted to RAW and Miz stays put and Sammy and KO stay on RAW. So 3 ready made fueds for Bryan without putting him in any title hunts.

[Frank Drebin]

Grinn Balor needs to calm down with the smiling.

Gay does mean happy I guess.

[Evil Vito]

I bet Bryan gets drafted to RAW and Miz stays put and Sammy and KO stay on RAW. So 3 ready made fueds for Bryan without putting him in any title hunts.


Unless Bryan steps down tomorrow, which is possible, I don't see why he would be trading himself to Raw.

Besides, depriving us of Bryan/Styles or Bryan/Nakamura would be cruel

[Emperor Smeat]

Really is annoying how the commentary always has to have one person that they tell to shut up all the time.

WWE should have never gone to 3-man booths as the standard for their shows and saved it for PPVs and special themed shows instead.

WCW's 3-man booth was pretty good for a long while but WWE's idea is to just use the odd man out as the source of ridicule for the other commentators. NXT is the only one that doesn't have the constant bickering going on each week.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE commentary is so bad. So, so bad.

[screech]

What's worse: the commentary or the camera work?

[Vastardikai]

What's worse: the commentary or the camera work?

Yes.

[Vastardikai]

Also, since I don't really watch TNA, or even wrestling in general. I did catch part of Raw, up to the point of AoP murdering Heath...

Bobby Lashley already feels... different somehow. I don't know what it is.

[Tom Guycott]

Nicholas/Strowman = Freak the Mighty

[Poit]

After the show, Rollins told the crowd to bring out their beach balls. He, Balor, Hardy, the cameramen, and the crowd played with the beach balls together.

At the very end, we got closeups of Balor's and Hardy's rainbow gear. Was a nice view of Finn's butt on the Tron.

[Emperor Smeat]

What's worse: the commentary or the camera work?

Camera work by a mile.

Lot easier to tune out WWE's commentary in general when they are bad or boring than the nauseating inducement camera cuts and shaky cam that goes on during shows.

[Evil Vito]

Watching Paige's retirement speech kinda reminded me that I was in attendance when Edge announced his retirement. Different circumstances since Paige's injuries had been known for a while, but still.

Edge was always one of my faves but I didn't agree at all with him beating Del Rio at WM27. Pretty much totally killed Del Rio's early momentum, although you can trace the recent trend of everyone losing at their first Mania back to him. Maybe even earlier than that (Sheamus did the job at WM26).

But still......to see one of my faves retire a week after he retained the title at Mania was so fucking sad/surreal to sit through. Kept waiting for Edge to get jumped and have the whole thing revealed as an angle but it never came.

[Lock Jaw]

Also, since I don't really watch TNA, or even wrestling in general. I did catch part of Raw, up to the point of AoP murdering Heath...

Bobby Lashley already feels... different somehow. I don't know what it is.

He had a headband

[Droford]

This was one of the worst post WM area in a while

[Mr. Nerfect]

Watching Paige's retirement speech kinda reminded me that I was in attendance when Edge announced his retirement. Different circumstances since Paige's injuries had been known for a while, but still.

Edge was always one of my faves but I didn't agree at all with him beating Del Rio at WM27. Pretty much totally killed Del Rio's early momentum, although you can trace the recent trend of everyone losing at their first Mania back to him. Maybe even earlier than that (Sheamus did the job at WM26).

But still......to see one of my faves retire a week after he retained the title at Mania was so fucking sad/surreal to sit through. Kept waiting for Edge to get jumped and have the whole thing revealed as an angle but it never came.

Sheamus just lost to Triple H because Triple H considers himself a "big star" and thinks that counts as giving someone the rub. I didn't agree with the Del Rio loss at the time, either, but I also disagree with two World Titles and the Royal Rumble being used for the B-program. And Del Rio has turned out to be a disappointment. Retroactively I don't feel sorry for him.

[Tom Guycott]

If Ember Moon was coming up to the main roster, I would have had Asuka win last night, and then after a rematch or two with Charlotte (Asuka winning), pick up her feud with Ember Moon.

I guarantee they forgot about that. That, and it would have made too much sense.

She will replace Dana Brooke in Titus Worldwide inside 2 months - after she gets her turn as women's champ, that is. You know, to make the stable all black people for no reason.

[Tom Guycott]

Kurt just mesmermized* by No Way Jose. Plus subliminally planting his theme song in a Bar segment.

*proper Steiner pronunciation, please.

[Tom Guycott]

I want Jeff to paint his eyes like he used to in TNA and walk down a long as fuck ramp at the RR or WM with his eyes closed.

The cig smoking, stretching, street clothes "Anti-Christ" entrance was the best thing he ever did, though. TNA or otherwise.

[slik]

Was tired from traveling home after Mania and slept thru RAW but caught up now via WWE's YT page.

Good show -- good debuts and good returns.

[slik]

Ember Moon is good
No Way Jose is...No Way Jose

Authors Of Pain will do well

[slik]

I bet Jinder and Seth switch places next week...Seth getting pushed to the moon means he could end up as SD's big face wrestler...I still think both AJ and Naka could end up on RAW after the draft tbh...


Reigns beats Lesnar for title
Samoa Joe beats Reigns for title

SD:
Joe as Universal Champ
Rollins as IC Champ


RAW:
AJ or Naka as World Champ
Jinder as US Champ

[Fignuts]

When they brought the Hardy Boyz back, it just felt like this is what they should have been doing all along.... Matt Hardy doing his own weird thing, and Jeff Hardy being "above it" being a singles dude.

I just wish they would give Jeff his singles theme.

Forget whatever Dark One posted. I have what you're really looking for.

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[slik]

I also could see Carmella cash in on SDLive tomorrow and then Carmella and Nia switch brands

[erickman]

WTF, a mention on TNA on WWE TV LOL

yeah they wait a year after impact gets rid of the tna name forever. if they can say roh and new japan they can say tna.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm hoping that when Joe doesn't win the IC Titlte at GRR, he gets pissed off and slams the cage on Reigns' head when he tries to leave like a pussy or something. Reigns vs. Joe without a belt.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I also could see Carmella cash in on SDLive tomorrow and then Carmella and Nia switch brands

It sounds ridiculous, but I really wouldn't be surprised if they did a "Champion Swap" where the SmackDown champs become Raw champs and vice versa.

[ClockShot]

Last night was.......interesting. Certainly not one of the better Rawaftermania shows. But it had it's spots.

Ember Moon looked like money last night. Great debut.

No Way Jose I don't think will last long with that gimmick. Didn't work for Adam Rose.

Yay, Bobby Lashley is back. I'm being sarcastic.

Authors of Pain are off to an interesting start. Obvious squash match was coming, but now we're all wondering if Paul Ellering is done managing or if this is the start of a breakup storyline.

Smackdown should be a hoot with all the stuff going on there.

[KIRA]

Forget whatever Dark One posted. I have what you're really looking for.

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I guarantee you if they give him that one his popularity will drop like a rock he'll make Roman Reigns seem like Daniel Bryan

[Shadrick]

I do not give a fuck about Bobby Lashley.

[Fignuts]

Well Thrilla says he's improved a lot, so I'll give him a chance.

The one armed suplex was cool.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Thrilla also likes booker as a commentator. His credibility must come into question.

[Fignuts]

I mean

I enjoyed Booker more than I have Coach. Even if Booker was unintentionally entertaining.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Coach is by far the best babyface color guy third wheel they've ever had. I don't know what that says about him.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lashley cut a pretty good backstage interview at Raw. Sounded a lot more comfortable and organic.

[Frank Drebin]

Well Thrilla says he's improved a lot, so I'll give him a chance.

The one armed suplex was cool.

Elias had to grab a fistful of penis to keep himself upright. :lol:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Lashley cut a pretty good backstage interview at Raw. Sounded a lot more comfortable and organic.

A lot of people do. Now we wait to see how he delivers a WWE script....

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, that's true. I might have to read about how that goes.

[Jordan]

I sometimes would go out of my way to check out Lashley in TNA. He had some great moments and matches so I look forward to this. I've always wanted to see Bobby/Brock.

[Simple Fan]

Thought it would be a better show but the Raw after Mania has turned into NXT call ups and returns. No Way Jose needs to be nowhere near the main roster but they seem to have an obsession with having a superstar that carries a party around with him. I really wanted Jose to stay in NXT and turn heel, maybe even pair him with Almas. AoP at least makes sense and nothing really more to do in NXT. I watch Impact so Lashleys return isn't anything special but he adds to the roster. Kind wish they'd let him and Brock have a MMA fight, alot of interesting matchups for him though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Thought it would be a better show but the Raw after Mania has turned into NXT call ups and returns. No Way Jose needs to be nowhere near the main roster but they seem to have an obsession with having a superstar that carries a party around with him. I really wanted Jose to stay in NXT and turn heel, maybe even pair him with Almas. AoP at least makes sense and nothing really more to do in NXT. I watch Impact so Lashleys return isn't anything special but he adds to the roster. Kind wish they'd let him and Brock have a MMA fight, alot of interesting matchups for him though.

Just watch New Legacy's Universe mode, it's more entertaining than the real thing and No Way Jose is the champion of Smackdown!

[Simple Fan]

KO vs Sami was a good match. What if they go back to NXT and join the Undisputed Era?

[Evil Vito]

The Raw mid/upper card picture seems quite ridiculous really. You have Reigns, Joe, Rollins, Balor, Miz, Jeff, Lashley, Braun, and Elias. Plus Owens and Zayn will likely keep milling about Raw during their unemployment storyline, and Ambrose is due back in the summer.

I'm sure two or three of those guys will go to SmackDown next week, but it's not like Raw won't be getting anyone in return. I dread the prospect of Rusev being sent back to Raw and barely being used. Selfishly I'd rather they send Orton and/or Ziggler over since I really couldn't care less if they get lost in the shuffle or disappear from television for months at a time.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I mean

I enjoyed Booker more than I have Coach. Even if Booker was unintentionally entertaining.

Dream commentating team is macho man and booker. Neither came across like they spoke English as a first language behind the desk yet both were unintentionally hilarious.

[Simple Fan]

That would be amazing.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Dream commentating team is macho man and booker. Neither came across like they spoke English as a first language behind the desk yet both were unintentionally hilarious.

Da Juice on play by play

[erickman]

Dream commentating team is macho man and booker. Neither came across like they spoke English as a first language behind the desk yet both were unintentionally hilarious.

best team was booker and nash with scot stiener in the ring calling wrestlers out to the ring.

[Droford]

Last night was.......interesting. Certainly not one of the better Rawaftermania shows. But it had it's spots.

Ember Moon looked like money last night. Great debut.

No Way Jose I don't think will last long with that gimmick. Didn't work for Adam Rose.

Yay, Bobby Lashley is back. I'm being sarcastic.

Authors of Pain are off to an interesting start. Obvious squash match was coming, but now we're all wondering if Paul Ellering is done managing or if this is the start of a breakup storyline.

Smackdown should be a hoot with all the stuff going on there.
I think with AOP it was obvious Ellering wasn't working a full time schedule so it was dumb to have him come out and just get dumped after their first match. AOP better get moved to SD though.

[Emperor Smeat]

I think with AOP it was obvious Ellering wasn't working a full time schedule so it was dumb to have him come out and just get dumped after their first match. AOP better get moved to SD though.

When Slater issued his open challenge, they should have cut to a video on the big screen of Ellering proclaiming his work his done and its now time to sick his beasts on RAW.

Then AOP debut sans Ellering but at least you have the explanation for why Ellering is no longer around them.

[Vastardikai]

One thing I feel is really important to the success of AoP is in a key comparison. It is and at the same time it isn't to the Road Warriors.

I feel like NXT's Developmental learned from the mistakes of the Ascension. You get two outlandish looking characters and put them together, you're going to get compared to Hawk and Animal. Doubly so if they're large. Someone told the Ascension to distance themselves from that comparison and it caused them to get buried hard.

Here, I get the vibe that the folks at Developmental embraced the comparison. I feel like the meeting that put the Authors together involved someone saying "These two guys are massive brick walls of human beings. People are going to compare them to the Road Warriors." And the reaction was "You know what? GOOD! Can we get Paul Ellering on the line?"

But that's just my opinion of them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was with you until you said that they learnt from the mistakes of The Ascension.

[Vastardikai]

You're right, as if WWE creative learns from their mistakes.

[Evil Vito]

Ellering should now manage War Machine.

Then when they get called up after WM35, they dump him.

Then he finds two more big blokes in NXT.

And it never ends.

[Evil Vito]

Sheamus just lost to Triple H because Triple H considers himself a "big star" and thinks that counts as giving someone the rub. I didn't agree with the Del Rio loss at the time, either, but I also disagree with two World Titles and the Royal Rumble being used for the B-program. And Del Rio has turned out to be a disappointment. Retroactively I don't feel sorry for him.

I don't give a fuck about Del Rio either - but I hated the decision at the moment. It is kinda crazy though to realize how many people dropped their first Mania.

WM26: Sheamus loses to HHH
WM27: Bryan gets bumped off the show, Del Rio loses to Edge, Wade Barrett after main eventing a ton of PPVs the year prior sees his team lose a 90 second tag match
WM28: Bryan loses to Sheamus instantly
WM29: Ryback loses to Henry, hell even Lesnar lost in his first Mania in nearly a decade
WM30: Wyatt loses to Cena
WM31: Sting loses to Triple H, Rusev loses to Cena, all three members of The Shield lose their first non-Shield matches (although Rollins does cash in at the end)
WM32: Styles loses to Jericho, Zack Ryder wins the IC Title in a ladder match that involves a bunch of Mania rookies
WM34: Asuka loses to Charlotte, Nakamura loses to Styles

It really does seem to be deliberate. Feels like Fandango is the only exception.

[Lock Jaw]

They invested a win in Fandango and then he got injured and ruined everything for himself and every rookie afterwards

[Tom Guycott]

Ellering should now manage War Machine.

Then when they get called up after WM35, they dump him.

Then he finds two more big blokes in NXT.

And it never ends.

Or he manages Slater and Rhyno to multiple championships!!!

Oooh... (serious answer time) or Ascension! Play it straight, too. Have him be the man who gets them back to the prominence they had in NXT and they end up being the team to step up to AoP.

[Evil Vito]

The Ascension have been booked like total geeks in the 3+ years they've been on the main roster and both dudes are closing in on 40 years old. Pushing them would be a fruitless endeavor.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't give a fuck about Del Rio either - but I hated the decision at the moment. It is kinda crazy though to realize how many people dropped their first Mania.

WM26: Sheamus loses to HHH
WM27: Bryan gets bumped off the show, Del Rio loses to Edge, Wade Barrett after main eventing a ton of PPVs the year prior sees his team lose a 90 second tag match
WM28: Bryan loses to Sheamus instantly
WM29: Ryback loses to Henry, hell even Lesnar lost in his first Mania in nearly a decade
WM30: Wyatt loses to Cena
WM31: Sting loses to Triple H, Rusev loses to Cena, all three members of The Shield lose their first non-Shield matches (although Rollins does cash in at the end)
WM32: Styles loses to Jericho, Zack Ryder wins the IC Title in a ladder match that involves a bunch of Mania rookies
WM34: Asuka loses to Charlotte, Nakamura loses to Styles

It really does seem to be deliberate. Feels like Fandango is the only exception.

I'm in the same boat. I feel like it fucked him at the time. But to what ends would not fucking him have achieved anything? I dunno, I just resent how much I used to want to be into him, haha.

They also put the ECW Originals over the New Breed at...23, I want to say? It was the first match of many of the old guys, but it felt like they were going with the new guys paying dues.

On the flip side, they had Cole beat King too, because you can't have a wrestler going notably undefeated at WrestleMania.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Ascension have been booked like total geeks in the 3+ years they've been on the main roster and both dudes are closing in on 40 years old. Pushing them would be a fruitless endeavor.

I've got no clue how Konnor still has a job, even after walking away with his wife after they just agreed to give her a push. He's got to know something.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They've been on the main roster for three fucking years at this point, and have been a part of four video games. Hell of a career for dudes who have done nothing.

[Savio]

On the flip side, they had Cole beat King too, because you can't have a wrestler going notably undefeated at WrestleMania.

I think that was Kings first Mania as well no?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think that was Kings first Mania as well no?

Yeah, that's what I mean. But they put focus on that and you can't have King going 100% after one Mania.

[Poit]

Ellering should now manage War Machine.

Then when they get called up after WM35, they dump him.

Then he finds two more big blokes in NXT.

And it never ends.

Paul Ellering, Seeker of Hosses

[Cool King]

For some reason, TPWW died yesterday as I was in the midding of posting in this thread so my post never saw the light of day yesterday.

My post was long as it was after WrestleMania, but to cut to the chase:

• We all knew it was happening but this Austin/McMahon angle meets Rule 63 of the Internet could actually be entertaining.

Rousey appears to have settled in to WWE life now, which is good. Before, she seemed a bit shy and uneasy at first to me but I think she'll be ok, especially once she gets more experience on the mic.

• I hate it when Cole & Crew do the whole "This isn't a traditional crowd" spiel.

• It's Ember Moon! AKA: Someone I'm not familiar with because I don't watch NXT! That's a recurring theme for me for this Raw.

She seems alright, although wasn't she a heel in NXT?

Cool finisher though. We really don't have enough "top rope attack on a standing opponent" finishing moves.

• I knew Strowman & Nicholas wouldn't be champions for some reason by the end of Raw.

It just leaves me wondering, what was the point in it all?

Good promo by the kid though. Not even twenty-four hours after his debut, he's cutting promos of a quality that Reigns can only dream of.

• Two seconds into No Way Jose appearing on my screen and I already hate him.

He's essentially just a black Adam Rose and I absolutely hated Adam Rose's gimmick.

• As much as I enjoy Miz and the Intercontinental Championship, I really would like to see him go to SmackDown and be in the WWE Championship picture and even winning it.

Jeff Hardy being back is cool and I'm glad he's not involved in Matt's shit he has going on.

• I don't understand why Paige got a sendoff like she was a legend.

Apart from being a contractual thorn in the WWE's side when she went crazy and caused a lot of bother for the WWE with her dealings with Del Rio, arrests and porn, she's done pretty much fuck all during her time with WWE.

She twice won a patronising championship no one liked or cared about and she was the first winner of a championship in a developmental brand.

Oh, and she shouted "this is my house" about twenty times every time she stepped in a ring.

https://tinyurl.com/y7kpdww2

There are jobbers with better WWE careers than that.

• I really wasn't expecting Bobby Lashley to show up and I don't mean to Raw that night. I mean to WWE.

I don't read dirtsheets or anything so I didn't know talks were happening or if he was spotted around arenas or what, so his appearance was a genuine surprise to me.

It's a shame he didn't return with his old theme though. That theme was bitchin'.

The new one sounds alright though.

• Angle with that shot at TNA was great.

• I was waiting for Authors of Pain to show up. Again, as they're NXT guys, I'm not familiar with them but my first impressions are that they are what you would get if you mixed 3 Minute Warning and The Shield together.

It sucks that Ellering won't be with them now though. I actually think having him by their side would be good. We don't have enough tag team managers these days.

• When it comes to Wyatt and Hardy, I'm waiting for one of two things to happen this year.

1: Wyatt attacks Hardy and his partnership was just a ruse.

2: Wyatt slowly distances himself from Hardy after a while and this is all just a way to repackage Wyatt and get him away from all the Sister Abigail's and buzzards.

• Overall, Raw was good, although the WWE should stop referring to the post-WrestleMania Raw as "Raw After Mania" and just refer to it as "NXT Raw", as that's essentially what it is. Every year.

[Cool King]

This might be the happiest day of cool King's life

It kinda was.

Shame about yesterday though.

[Cool King]

CHOC LESNAR IS HERE

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