AEW Dynamite Debut (10/2)

[Droford]

Riho beat her earlo but I can't see her winning tonight

Droford jinx

[Damian Rey 2.0]

God damn this match is surprising me.

MY GAWD A SUPER PLEX FOR 2!

[Emperor Smeat]

Surprised Riho actually beat Nyla.

Match was very good overall.

[Sepholio]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

[Cuzziebro]

Great finish

[Evil Vito]

Wow, did NOT expect that result. Yay Riho!

[Triple A]

Feel like this match would be interesting to a non-wrestling-fan just flipping through channels and seeing a really big vs. really small person match

[#1-norm-fan]

Hot crowd

[rez]

Still a Moxley appearance and a 6-man tag. Hope they didn't fail to budget their time again. Unless TNT gave them an overrun.

There's a replay of Dynamite on after according to my guide so I'd say they can probably run over.

[rez]

F yeahhh

[Damian Rey 2.0]

OMFG RIHO DID IT!!! HOLY SHIT THEY POPPED ME.

Fuck me I love this. What a match. No faith Riho was winning. Wow.

And Britt Baker can never talk again, thank you.

[#1-norm-fan]

YESSSSSSS!

Riho deserved that. Glad they didn’t go with the publicity stunt win for Nyla.

[slik]

nooo not michael nakazawa

[Droford]

Omega coming out was odd

[ClockShot]

Hey Kenny.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Fuck yes Nyla snapping. Beautiful sit out powerbomb and excellent sell.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

nooo not michael nakazawa

He sold that magnificently

[Evil Vito]

Omega coming out was odd

Riho's tag partner anytime she does a mixed tag in Japan

[Emperor Smeat]

They must have something really big planned if Moxley is closing out the show.

[Triple A]

Omega coming out was odd

They used to team together a lot in Japan

[Jordan]

That turned out to be a really good match. Great upset!

[rez]

Omega coming out was odd

They got history. They've tagged together and stuff

[#1-norm-fan]

Did I miss Moxley?

[xrodmuc316]

They must have something really big planned if Moxley is closing out the show.

If he is getting vaccinations to close the show it would be the greatest fuck you Vince McMahon thing ever lol

[Emperor Smeat]

Omega coming out was odd

Besides being Riho's tag partner in Japan like Vito and AAA mentioned, he's also in charge of AEW's women's division so it was a nice little touch to that.

[Jordan]

I wonder if Kenny left Kota for Riho?

[Evil Vito]

Did I miss Moxley?

Nope. Either he was scrapped due to health or he’s turning up at the end to brawl with Kenny

[rez]

Gametime a decent service?

[Jordan]

If he is getting vaccinations to close the show it would be the greatest fuck you Vince McMahon thing ever lol

:lol:

[GD]

Omega coming out was odd

He's been out for a while now /s

[xrodmuc316]

I mean clearly Bucks/Omega are losing tonight since they aren't cosplaying Street Fighter right?

[#1-norm-fan]

I do not think Jim Cornette is going to HATE this show. I dunno.

[Evil Vito]

On rare years the Mets were playing important games in September/October, when they'd be on the same time as the Giants my dad would set up a small TV next to the main one and we'd have both games on, muting one and turning up the volume on whichever one is more interesting or important at that moment.

I totally would do that on wrestling Wednesdays now if I could.

[ClockShot]

Mox out early.

[Droford]

Lol just ignore the interference

[Cuzziebro]

Swagger to replace Kenny?

[GD]

Jon Moxley, baby!

[Emperor Smeat]

:D Moxley.

Guess that's one way to save some time in the show. Also guess AEW refs got taught by NJPW's Red Shoes considering the leeway of the ref letting Moxley get rid of Omega from the match.

[Droford]

Cheap glass table

[#1-norm-fan]

... oh, it’s no DQ apparently...

[ClockShot]

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh shit.

[Droford]

Lol someone threw a hotdog in the ring and Jericho picked it up and got aic and asked who threw it

[Dark One]

That is a future KICKOUT AT TWO GIF for sure

Jesus

[GD]

lol @ Moxley driving himself through the glass

[ClockShot]

So, unless Omega recovers and finds his way back to the ring, who's gonna save The Bucks?

[Jordan]

Dammmmmn. That glass table spot was great. I like this!

[rez]

JR upset he wasn't aware of the VIP area lol

[Droford]

So, unless Omega recovers and finds his way back to the ring, who's gonna save The Bucks?

Cody makes most sense

[Triple A]

Nice @ table spot

[KIRA]

The Snacks!!!! Moxley is a disgusting heel

[Evil Vito]

That was sick fucking nasty and I love it.

[xrodmuc316]

lol @ Moxley driving himself through the glass

Hope he didn't cut himself, bout to get more staff infections...

[Jordan]

So, unless Omega recovers and finds his way back to the ring, who's gonna save The Bucks?

IDK BUT MARTY?

[Heisenberg]

Thank fuck no one suffered a ruptured kidney or spleen. God gawd they just went there

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GODDAMN!!!! PARADIGM SHIFT ON THE GLASS TABLE!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JonMoxley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JonMoxley</a> <a href="https://t.co/szOWrXj5Rk">pic.twitter.com/szOWrXj5Rk</a></p>&mdash; Italo Santana (@BulletClubIta) <a href="https://twitter.com/BulletClubIta/status/1179574135875362819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

This show being two hours is great... Feels like a "PPV" but is only two hours, leaving me wanting much more... And so many wrestlers who have still yet to appear, meaning it'll be hard for it to get old/boring

[slik]

I am usually not a fan of the Young Bucks but I have enjoyed this match

[Evil Vito]

Meltzer Driver turns into the Codebreaker. Love it. Fun finish.

[Jordan]

Oh man this is so awesome. I love The Young Bucks.

[GD]

Nick just pulled off a Cesaro.

[Emperor Smeat]

6-man tag match was pretty great overall.

[ClockShot]

Cody switched in to executive attire?

Okay.

[ClockShot]

There's Swagger.

[Cuzziebro]

He looks excellent too!

[GD]

Goldy :love:

[Dark One]

Jack Swagger is no Lex Luger, but it'll be interesting to see what he can do if he's motivated, and he's a "big" dude, which the AEW roster needs.

[slik]

Jim Ross just said HOLY SHIT

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: Sports Illustrated was actually right for once with a scoop.

Guess the "Swaggie Time" gif can finally come out of retirement.

https://media.giphy.com/media/vI0pxOwFcDVrG/giphy.gif

[ClockShot]

:rofl:

We the people chant.

Ah, memories.

[GD]

Jake Hager, bah gawd!

[KIRA]

The Champion won a non title match and looked like the Champion.......i dont know how to react

[Dark One]

The Champion won a non title match and looked like the Champion.......i dont know how to react

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

[ClockShot]

That's one strong table.

[Dark One]

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

Unless you're Dustin Rhodes. In which case you're dead.

[slik]

That was a really fun first episode!

[Evil Vito]

Wrestling works best when there's a big heel stable at the center of things.

[Heisenberg]

That was a great show, Wednesday fixin' to be the shit

[Triple A]

Sweet show... damn... really glad

[slik]

That was great, good hook for Week 2

[Evil Vito]

Loved that debut episode.

[Jordan]

Wow... I did NOT see that coming. I like the idea of this massive stable trying to dominate. Can't wait to see how they flesh it out. Great first show. It wasn't like OMG THE BEST MATCHES EVER... but it was such a good wrestling show. Can't wait for more!

[xrodmuc316]

Gotta love Impact Wrestling and 2015 WWE Main Event closing the show :rofl:

[KIRA]

That felt good.

[Droford]

They literally swept the stuff from the table under the ring apron

[Dark One]

Fun time once we got through the rough second half hour. Some rough spots to even out, but given how they've evolved across the first few special events, I have hopes there'll be some great adjustments and improvements as the weeks go on. It has a very different feel from everything else, even NXT, which is neat.

Probably going to stick with watching AEW live because I can just watch NXT on the network tomorrow. If AEW consistently has a replay immediately afterwards, that might open the door a bit.

Just happy to have two really strong products, assuming AEW matches their potential, in NXT and AEW.

[Droford]

3 more matches

[#1-norm-fan]

Hager without WWE’s shit booking could be a star. Love this.

[rez]

Loved it. I feel the talent can get rested unlike in WWE. No wasted having someone holding a cup in the background shit yet.

[Droford]

8 man tag hybrid 2 and lucha Bros vs private party and best friends with OC

[Droford]

Jack Evans fell flat on his face getting in the ring

I really hope a gif of this comes out or video

[Dark One]

Hager without WWE’s shit booking could be a star. Love this.

He has a good shot at succeeding in this type of environment versus the promo/painfully scripted heavy environment of WWE. I can't say I can recall any "great" matches he's had, but he has the credentials to be great in a primarily-in-ring product.

[rez]

Even though Ted Turner has no involvement I can imagine Vince is eating his own shirt yelling GODDAMN YOU TED TURNER

[Emperor Smeat]

Pretty sweet stable of guys Jericho has assuming it sticks.

Very entertaining show overall and even better, AEW managed to fix all the production issues that plagued their earlier PPVs while managing to feel different enough from WWE's TV style.

Also happy that if AEW's debut show is any indication, its going to easily fill the void left by Lucha Underground for my weekly wrestling watching.

[#1-norm-fan]

Gotta love Impact Wrestling and 2015 WWE Main Event closing the show :rofl:

Should they have closed the show with the stars that have been made throughout their 0 other weeks of television?

You are such an awkward try hard. Lol

[Simple Fan]

Good show. Hearing Tony and JR together is weird but great. Like hearing WCW and WWF mixed together.

Flipped over to NXT during a few commercial breaks and thought the AEW show was more appealing. Going to watch NXT fully now.

[Dark One]

Should they have closed the show with the stars that have been made throughout their 0 other weeks of television?

You are such an awkward try hard. Lol

I thought Noid got a name change, to be honest.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He has a good shot at succeeding in this type of environment versus the promo/painfully scripted heavy environment of WWE. I can't say I can recall any "great" matches he's had, but he has the credentials to be great in a primarily-in-ring product.

He's a hoss with a gas tank and a clear understanding of what it takes to be a dominating, aggressive heel. He'll do great things, if protected, IMO.

[xrodmuc316]

Good show. Hearing Tony and JR together is weird but great. Like hearing WCW and WWF mixed together.

Flipped over to NXT during a few commercial breaks and thought the AEW show was more appealing. Going to watch NXT fully now.

Spoiler, NXT was better.

[Evil Vito]

Lucha Underground killed a lot of my Swagger enthusiasm but he'd definitely work as a big enforcer type for a big stable rather than trying to give him a big push solo.

[rez]

Spoiler, NXT was better.


No one cares about this anti AEW gimmick you're trying to establish

[Evil Vito]

Next week: debut of the <s>Swagger Soaring Eagle</s> Hager Hovering Hawk

[rez]

Lucha Underground killed a lot of my Swagger enthusiasm but he'd definitely work as a big enforcer type for a big stable rather than trying to give him a big push solo.



Love decently sized heel stables. WWE won't commit to OC/Roode, Ziggler

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Should they have closed the show with the stars that have been made throughout their 0 other weeks of television?

You are such an awkward try hard. Lol

Was gonna say, the featured guys at the end were all established (hungry) guys who've paid their dues. With Hager and Jericho, especially, you have guys that will clearly be awesome with their reins removed.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I liked Jack Swagger enough. Always had a lot of potential. It's hard to get excited about him though. Big dude with a hot wife. I'm happy for him getting another shot.

[xrodmuc316]

No one cares about this anti AEW gimmick you're trying to establish

A.k.a. the truth. NXT was a better show, that's not Anti AEW, nice attempt though.

[Emperor Smeat]

Lucha Underground killed a lot of my Swagger enthusiasm but he'd definitely work as a big enforcer type for a big stable rather than trying to give him a big push solo.

Them trying to push him as a dominating beast despite him not really fitting in or clicking with their style of wrestling was pretty bad at first. He only got really enjoyable when he joined the evil supernatural group even if led to nothing because of LU's demise.

[rez]

Love having Schiavone back. I got the replay going in the background. It brings back so many fond childhood memories of racing my bike back home to put Nitro on.

https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Image-from-iOS-4.jpg

[Droford]

8 man tag hybrid 2 and lucha Bros vs private party and best friends with OC

Luchas and best friends win. Orange Cassidy did a trust fall to the outside of the top turnbuckle with his hands in his pockets to a big pop.

Decent spot fest type match

[#1-norm-fan]

358 posts to 154 posts and the top trend on Twitter all night. TPWW and the world have spoken! AEW WINS!!!

[Droford]

Allie and Britt Baker vs Bea Priestley and Penelope Ford

[BigCrippyZ]

So that's the first two hours (and full show) of any wrestling product I've watched since WM and overall it was incredibly more interesting/entertaining than anything I've seen from WWE in years.

Yes, there was a lot of talent I didn't know, and it wasn't all great and had some slow segments/spots, but I'm actually really looking forward to next week's episode. If only to just see where things go from here, and ideally, long term they continue to improve/deliver on what we got tonight, and they develop/flesh out and I learn and invest more into the characters and feuds.

One thing I loved was that they setup so many potential future feuds and matches, and (without having the show be a complete clusterfuck,) each separate story line and feud wasn't treated and didn't feel completely disjointed or unconnected to the others and the overall show.

This show was a great start.

[rez]

I wouldn't object to Mike Tenay doing a one off pre ppv show with JR and Tony.

[Jordan]

I wouldn't object to Mike Tenay doing a one off pre ppv show with JR and Tony.

Nobody would!

[xrodmuc316]

358 posts to 154 posts and the top trend on Twitter all night. TPWW and the world have spoken! AEW WINS!!!

Tweets and posts are more important than characters and matches. Good to know!

[rez]

Jericho hadn't been on TNT since the late 90's. Crazy

[Droford]

Fairly impressed with Penelope Ford. I've not seen her actually wrestle before

[#1-norm-fan]

Tweets and posts are more important than characters and matches. Good to know!

Facts don’t give a fuck about your shit opinions. All about interest garnered.

AEW WINNNSSSSSsuck it.

[Droford]

Britt Baker submits Penelope Ford by pulling her jaw in a wierd submission

[Triple A]

358 posts to 154 posts and the top trend on Twitter all night. TPWW and the world have spoken! AEW WINS!!!

The buzz seems like 20x more than NXT... would be surprised if AEW doesn't get at least like 500k more viewers than NXT this week

[Droford]

SCU vs Jurassic Express

[#1-norm-fan]

He's a hoss with a gas tank and a clear understanding of what it takes to be a dominating, aggressive heel. He'll do great things, if protected, IMO.

I was indifferent toward him in WWE but I tend to not care about anyone once WWE gets ahold of them and robs them of everything interesting.

He’s got the look, he’s fine in the ring and he’s got that MMA legitimacy now. Especially with the size of most guys today, if booked right, he’s gonna be an awesome throwback heel.

[BigCrippyZ]

Tweets and posts are more important than characters and matches. Good to know!

You mean the same tweets and posts that WWE repeatedly hypes up and focuses on during their own shows, instead of focusing on improving their own shitty, repetitive, and uninteresting WWE characters and matches that WWE shits the bed with, and then usually later actually shits on by their awful booking, writing, and commentary, especially once they move up to their own premier shows? Those same tweets and posts?

[#1-norm-fan]

The buzz seems like 20x more than NXT... would be surprised if AEW doesn't get at least like 500k more viewers than NXT this week

Lol I’m mostly just fucking with xrod because he’s ridiculous.

I assumed there wasn’t any way this new wrestling company, even with the hype behind it, had a shot at beating a show with the WWE name in the ratings. The clear interest advantage online tonight does make me wonder though.

[BigCrippyZ]

Yeah, I'll be curious to see if they can keep improving and build off of this.

[rez]

Yeah, I'll be curious to see if they can keep improving and build off of this.

I def believe after tonight it's doable. Mind you, they have far less production, writers, etc. than WWE but it's only a weekly 2 hour show.

The Elite aren't booking themselves as unbeatable is already fucking awesome.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;who threw a wiener in the ring?&quot; <a href="https://t.co/jZ8V7mS7dR">pic.twitter.com/jZ8V7mS7dR</a></p>&mdash; bossmoz 3: season of the witch (@BossMoz) <a href="https://twitter.com/BossMoz/status/1179581334114582529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[rez]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;who threw a wiener in the ring?&quot; <a href="https://t.co/jZ8V7mS7dR">pic.twitter.com/jZ8V7mS7dR</a></p>&mdash; bossmoz 3: season of the witch (@BossMoz) <a href="https://twitter.com/BossMoz/status/1179581334114582529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:naughty:

[#1-norm-fan]

They’ve also got the star power advantage. I just don’t know how much that matters since the existing mainstream audience pool isn’t exactly huge at the moment.

[Evil Vito]

I noticed how instead of devoting whole additional segments to moving forward a storyline, they instead slotted them into existing segments. This really stuck out with Mox/Omega, but it's also the case for the women's title match where they both (awkwardly) had Britt Baker on commentary and then had Nyla Rose attack Michael Nakazawa and attempt to take out Riho after the match

It lets the show move along much more comfortably without sacrificing giving people a reason to tune in next week.

[Droford]

The Dark match 8 man tag would have been better than the MJF match. timewise they could have got it in. The MJF match just felt out of place

[Emperor Smeat]

The buzz seems like 20x more than NXT... would be surprised if AEW doesn't get at least like 500k more viewers than NXT this week

At least based on Twitter, AEW was out-trending NXT like 7-to-1 in regards to their main tags almost an hour into both shows.

Even in terms of amount of stuff in the Top 10, took NXT a while to get more than 1 thing trending highly. Cole vs Gargano was a bust if the idea was for it to help generate more top trends in favor of NXT.

[rez]

Enjoying the replay instead of watching a horror movie.

[xrodmuc316]

You mean the same tweets and posts that WWE repeatedly hypes up and focuses on during their own shows, instead of focusing on improving their own shitty, repetitive, and uninteresting WWE characters and matches that WWE shits the bed with, and then usually later actually shits on by their awful booking, writing, and commentary, especially once they move up to their own premier shows? Those same tweets and posts?

So your argument is that because WWE hypes social media that what, I should forget what I watched and just say AEW had a better show than NXT?

I am not sure what you are trying to say. Tweets matter because WWE says they matter, Tweets matter because AEW had more?

One show was better than the other show. Tweets don't mean anything.

[rez]

Something that I've noticed on the 2nd viewing is there's long air time where Tony is quiet. I wonder if he's reviewing the notes where he has to go interview between the matches? Hopefully they can utilize Crhis Van Vliet more for that role going forward.

[Evil Vito]

So giddy. Really loved this show.

[rez]

I'm a little biased. I've always thought Vliet's interviews were top notch.

[Tom Guycott]

Will be watching this and switching to NXT during commercials probably for a couple of minutes, then switching back to AEW

Annoyed @ NXT being used to try to sabotage AEW, and annoyed there are two shows on (2 much shit at once...), etc.

To be fair, you could just pull the ol' Nitro trick: Nitro used to re-air later. In this case, couldn't one just watch NXT on the network whenever and watch AEW live?

[Tom Guycott]

AEW Dynamite trending number 1 on Twitter. Tony Schiavone also trending in the top 10.

Greatest trend in the history of our sport!

[rez]

Debating whether I should go to the Indy or Chicago show. Indy is a hop skip but I'm sure the Chi Town crowd would make that show funner.

[Destor]

Compairing AEW to NXT makes AEW seem like bush league. Tacticlaly a smart move from the WWE to put then against one another.

[Tom Guycott]

My god, Kevin Smith looks awful.

I can't get used to a non-fat Kevin Smith

It takes awhile. Just think of it like Scott Steiner after he first cropped and dyed the mullett. It initially seemed like he went too far in the other direction. Like, from fat guy to crack whore. But now, I'm used to it.

[Tom Guycott]

Wonder if WWE is upset considering how much they like to brag about their social media presence and having a Takeover-caliber NXT show get out trended by AEW's debut TV show.

It's WWE. They'll spin it by no-selling any of the AEW stuff and say that they had "one of the top trends" and ignore everything sandwiching it. Might even compare it to the next top trends that have nothing to do with wrestling that it beat.

[Tom Guycott]

As much as I can dig all the gushing about Schiavone in this thread, I can still recall when he was phoning it in the last few years on WCW TV. Calling everything a sidewalk slam and whatnot. Interesting turn from touting him ironically to genuine nostalgic feels.

[rez]

1. The last 2 years of WCW sucked
2. He had to work with Heenan who gave no fucks

[dronepool]

AEW was like a good 2 hour PPV.

[Tom Guycott]

Compairing AEW to NXT makes AEW seem like bush league. Tacticlaly a smart move from the WWE to put then against one another.

True. From a strictly tactical standpoint, it especially means they don't have the pressure to improve the overall shitty booking and storytelling from RAW or Smackdown except for whatever pressure may come from either FOX or USA themselves. And anytime AEW does better, they can just say "Yeah, but they beat our minor league, so it means nothing" and continue patting themselves on the back... neverminding that NXT is generally their A show, as much as people don't want to admit it.

[Stickman]

I thought it was a good show and I typically don't watch anything other than WWE. I don't like how they have a commentator with a mask, that's so silly. I also can't stand big impact moves not being finishers. The first match seemed to have like 5 spots where the match should have ended. I just don't like the reliance on false finishes that these "minor" leagues do.
I do think this was a great start. JR and Shiavoni were great.

[Lock Jaw]

Did not watch "live", but just finished watching now.... show was an alright start... nothing overly goofy other than me thinking "lol the minute any casual curious person tuned in and saw Sammy Guevara in a panda hat, they just immediately turned it off"

Otherwise it was good. Nothing too outstanding, but nothing that made me want to kill myself.

Was "PrettyCool" to hear Jim Ross and especially Tony Schiavone again.

Oh, and in Canada they did not go to picture-in-picture for the commercial breaks, but just went to commercial.

[xrodmuc316]

Facts don’t give a fuck about your shit opinions. All about interest garnered.

AEW WINNNSSSSSsuck it.

NXT had the best match of the night.
NXT had the best tag match of the night.
NXT had the best women's match of the night.

AEW had more tweets.

Yeah, AEW wins, clearly :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Lock Jaw]

I mean in this day and age, more tweets is winning.

[Malfeitor]

More than solid first show. Stoked for next week.

Also, I’m sure xrod pours the milk first and then the cereal. He seems to be that type of douche bag.

[Tom Guycott]

I thought it was a good show and I typically watch anything other than WWE. I don't like how they have a commentator with a mask, that's so silly. I also can't stand big impact moves not being finishers. The first match seemed to have like 5 spots where the match should have ended. I just don't like the reliance on false finishes that these "minor" leagues do.
I do think this was a great start. JR and Shiavoni were great.

You know, I started to make a troll comment about when Lucha Bros came out with suits on that it "took me out of the show"... but I'd be afraid someone would take me seriously. Excalibur's mask does not bother me one bit. The only time someone in a mask bothered me on commentary was Ring of Honor when Steve Corino had started wearing one on for seemingly no reason other than people were supposed to believe that it wasn't Steve Corino. If it were explained, I missed that episode. It seemed like a joke that someone forgot the punchline to or some angle that never played out. Like they were trying to do the Mr. America angle but lost interest in the backswing. Had nothing to do with his ability as a commentator, though, or the couple of minutes of airtime they showed him each week.

I do agree with 8 billion huge spots not being the end of matches, but that's something endemic in wrestling as a whole anymore. I don't like it here, but I also don't like it in WWE, nor NJPW, nor ROH, nor LOLTNA... just everywhere. Especially when you have something like a triple flip canadian destroyer from the top rope to the outside through a flaming table leading to a kickout at two, then that leads to a Three-Handled Moss Covered Gamily Gradunzel, countered into a double-team Doomsday Device... but then the match ends when one guy lands a knee strike because it has a cool name.

*THAT* takes me out of a show more than some guy talking off camera but you know he's wearing a mask...

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The goal is to get people talking about your product. If AEW had more people talking, that's a win for them.

[Destor]

I mean in this day and age, more tweets is winning.
Twitter engagement is a more valuable metric than ratings to advertisers. By far

[Mr. Nerfect]

Compairing AEW to NXT makes AEW seem like bush league. Tacticlaly a smart move from the WWE to put then against one another.

This. WWE are very smart with how they've positioned things. When NXT ends up beating AEW in the ratings, they're going to be the fourth highest rated show getting beat by the WWE's third brand. A lot of fans will act like they don't care, but this will certainly ice them.

As much as I can dig all the gushing about Schiavone in this thread, I can still recall when he was phoning it in the last few years on WCW TV. Calling everything a sidewalk slam and whatnot. Interesting turn from touting him ironically to genuine nostalgic feels.

This is what happens when you call bullshit like it's good shit. Jim Ross was always smart enough to call out the bad stuff in front of him, so he retained credibility. Shiavone ended up becoming a parody of himself.

I mean, it's largely the WCW product's fault too. I don't hate Shiavone for it, and he's a funny chap, but I think people forget that Shiavone was mocked mercilessly for a decade there.

I mean in this day and age, more tweets is winning.

Eh, it's one indicator of buzz. People tweeting about you doesn't mean it is positive, and it doesn't mean it's going to translate to any other metric even if it is. It also doesn't mean that they're going to be talking about you next week.

I'm pretty sure AEW is going to kill it this week, but very slowly, as the sheen wears off and the goofy stuff starts happening on TV more and more often, it's going to drip off as NXT gets stronger for being solidly booked each week.

[Tom Guycott]

Overall, I liked both shows. Although, in an abridging of my prevous comment in the other thread, it feels like WWE is trying too hard up against a product that is essentially just starting from scratch.

My critique here is that I hope AEW doesn't try to do a bunch of bullshit just to try to be major league top-notch in a day. Even WWE wasn't WWE overnight. Neither was WCW. I hope they don't rush shit and grow organically.

[Destor]

We're way past growing organically

[Mr. Nerfect]

There's no reason that a fresh wrestling promotion can't be big quickly. When people talk about wrestling, they talk about it as "wrestling." Sometimes you still hear "WWF" pop up. There's a history to it that is ingrained in people and culture that doesn't need a WWE brand name to flower. A big time presentation on a big time channel is enough to get some people watching.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE doing their best to prevent it from happening would be a big reason. Did it to World of Sport when ITV competed against their UK plans, to ROH a few years ago when it looked like ROH might finally reach the next level of growth, and recently against AAA by trying to take steam away from their MSG show.

Realistically, AEW probably needs a good 2-3 years to be established enough to potentially start becoming a legit WCW-like threat to WWE. Took WCW almost a year before Nitro became a legit threat to RAW and they were an established company that already had a presence on tv beforehand.

Impact blew their chance of ever becoming a real threat to WWE because they mishandled things from the start and whenever they tried to grow, they went about it in a wreckless way that crashed down every time leading to them never really growing their audience nor their status.

[Droford]

If you compare AEW to NXT:

AEW has a much better Tag Division and a much better men's roster. The only place NXT has AEW beat is the women's roster.

NXT probably comes across as the lesser show not being aired in front of 10,000 seat arena.

Im going to have to wait to hear the commentary but I think AEW beats them on that too.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wanna see something cool? How about all three dark matches from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a>'s premier broadcast. These occurred after the show was over and they're great. Here's the first one. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWonTNT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWonTNT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a><a href="https://t.co/Hm8dbDHHM3">https://t.co/Hm8dbDHHM3</a></p>&mdash; Wrestle Royalty (@WrestleRoyalty) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleRoyalty/status/1179665985692983296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not the greatest video/view...but you can sort of see Jack Evans fall on his face at 1:04

this is the match I thought should have been on the actual show

[Tom Guycott]

We're way past growing organically

I mean as opposed to doing shit just because WWE is doing something. That's one of the biggest things that got TNA in trouble throughout their entire time of being a thing, even through all the mismanagement, wasted money, and misused talent, they were trying to play catch-up and instantly fill the void WCW left behind instead of just worrying about themselves and letting their own product become its own product. If that makes sense.

[Tom Guycott]

Something unrelated I meant to mention earlier: when they were having that little "confrontation", it's kinda weird how Jack Evans and Jason Mewes kinda look alike in a Kurt Angle/Frank Trigg way.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I mean, it's largely the WCW product's fault too. I don't hate Shiavone for it, and he's a funny chap, but I think people forget that Shiavone was mocked mercilessly for a decade there.





No, you dumb fuck. Everybody remembers how bad he was. That's why his podcast--followed by his awesome performances in MLW were such a revelation.

[Ultra Mantis]

104/163 posts in the NXT thread are noid posts and 2nd place is xrod with 22. Oof.

[Evil Vito]

Looks like I won't be popping into that thread once I get around to watching NXT tonight, then.

[Evil Vito]

In addition to the Cody/Jericho title match, I could totally see an 8-man tag at Full Gear. LAX, Hager, and Guevara vs. The Bucks, Dustin, and a mystery partner who turns out to be the debuting Marty Scurll.

[#1-norm-fan]

xrod still confused as to why his subjective opinion isn’t more important than which was more popular.

I bet most people here found the matches on AEW last night better than the matches on Raw or Smackdown recently. So if he wants to use that metric and ignore which draws more people then AEW has defeated WWE’s MAIN PRODUCT!!!

AEW WINS AGAIN!!!

https://media.tenor.com/images/bcc346dd645ef34c5eed0e22fe3196fe/tenor.gif

[Evil Vito]

Gonna have to dust this one back off for XRod

https://i.imgflip.com/2s5vh0.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

I kinda want Dustin to get a bit of a serious run instead of just being used to put the young guys over and take the fall in tag matches. He just had arguably the best match of his career, he’s in the best shape of his career. It would be cool to see him have the serious run he never got the chance to have.

[screech]

Enjoyed this a bunch. A bit wonky in the beginning, but that's to be expected I guess. Hearing Tony and JR was wonderful.

Pac is great. I'm glad Daniels & Kaz will represent SCU (nothing against Scorpio, but I'm a big fan of Daniels). Moxley taking out Omega was fun. Loved seeing Hager out there. It's a bit weird to me that he's seen as "a hoss," but I think he can do some v good things as that.

Lots to look forward to for next week :y:

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Gonna have to dust this one back off for XRod

https://i.imgflip.com/2s5vh0.jpg

It's so true.

I get it's a "war" and it's part of the marketing. But why not just enjoy the wealth of wrestling now on television? Who cares if AEW BEATS WWE INTO A LIVING DEATH or vice versa.

[xrodmuc316]

104/163 posts in the NXT thread are noid posts and 2nd place is xrod with 22. Oof.

What is your point? FYI, this reply is my 20th post in this thread...

[xrodmuc316]

xrod still confused as to why his subjective opinion isn’t more important than which was more popular.

I bet most people here found the matches on AEW last night better than the matches on Raw or Smackdown recently. So if he wants to use that metric and ignore which draws more people then AEW has defeated WWE’s MAIN PRODUCT!!!

AEW WINS AGAIN!!!

https://media.tenor.com/images/bcc346dd645ef34c5eed0e22fe3196fe/tenor.gif

Really? So my saying this one episode of NXT was better than this one episode of AEW to you means "AEW sucked and Raw and Smackdown are way better"???

You are just making all sorts of incorrect conclusions.

Just so you know, I rank wrestling shows this week as follows:
1. NXT
2. AEW
3. RAW

NXT went all out THIS week and had a better show THIS week. It's literally all I said.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

XRod, it's also that you're just a gaping asshole of a poster.

[#1-norm-fan]

Dale always knows how to sum things up more succinctly than me.

[Destor]

Xrod is good for the forum.

[Ultra Mantis]

What is your point? FYI, this reply is my 20th post in this thread...

My point is that the TPWW NXT thread is a very low quality product with hugely inflated numbers.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Xrod is good for the forum.

You would enjoy a contrarian killjoy for contrarian killjoy's sake.

Though, you're right in the sense that I do get a MASSIVE kick out of hurling abuse at him. And probably post more as a result. Controversy Creates Cash #EricBischoff

[xrodmuc316]

It's clear you all have such bias for AEW that you can't even consider being impartial.

I say NXT had a better show, and your fandom takes that as I hate AEW, and your best response is name calling, cause that is how to properly defend your position.

I don't know how to make it any clearer other then I enjoyed NXT more this week. Anything else you think that means about my overall opinion on AEW is your own mind's doing.

[#1-norm-fan]

Your months of desperate, awkward, shitting on AEW for reasons that make no sense as if you’re weirdly insecure on WWE’s behalf is more the reason you’re a ridiculous person. And why you are being ridiculed as such.

[Destor]

You would enjoy a contrarian killjoy for contrarian killjoy's sake.

Its not that. When he posts 3 other people post. We all talk more.

[Destor]

It's clear you all have such bias for AEW that you can't even consider being impartial.

I say NXT had a better show, and your fandom takes that as I hate AEW, and your best response is name calling, cause that is how to properly defend your position.

I don't know how to make it any clearer other then I enjoyed NXT more this week. Anything else you think that means about my overall opinion on AEW is your own mind's doing.
You knew which show you were going to like more on tuesday just like they did. Objectivity is in pretty short supply here.

[XL]

ITV fucked it already. Supposed to be on their on demand service at 7pm. Still nowhere to be seen at 8:40pm. No results when you search AEW.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Its not that. When he posts 3 other people post. We all talk more.



Though, you're right in the sense that I do get a MASSIVE kick out of hurling abuse at him. And probably post more as a result. Controversy Creates Cash #EricBischoff


Addressed it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It's clear you all have such bias for AEW that you can't even consider being impartial.

I say NXT had a better show, and your fandom takes that as I hate AEW, and your best response is name calling, cause that is how to properly defend your position.

I don't know how to make it any clearer other then I enjoyed NXT more this week. Anything else you think that means about my overall opinion on AEW is your own mind's doing.

lol most people think NXT was a titch better. They also just enjoyed both shows rather than seeing the need to dump on one or the other.

You're just a killjoy. Probably a troll from TPWW's past.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Which show was better is not quantifiable. Some people will think AEW better. Others NXT. That's not hate or bias. It's preference. And in that sense, nobody can be right.

What is objective is which show had more buzz and was being talked about more. If the was in fact AEW, then that's a win for AEW and loss for NXT, since the point of putting NXT on network tv at its timeslot was seemingly to try and take the piss outta AEW.

[xrodmuc316]

Which show was better is not quantifiable. Some people will think AEW better. Others NXT. That's not hate or bias. It's preference. And in that sense, nobody can be right.

Except it is hate and bias when just because somebody says NXT has a better show all these AEW super supporters have shitfits.

I'm not the one in this thread calling people douchebags or gaping assholes.

Saying I'm shitting on AEW for no reason. There is a very specific reason, and that's because saying anything but AEW is the greatest thing even works multiple users here into an absolute uproar where they just make up all this horrible stuff I said about AEW.

I got this much anger by saying NXT had a better show. It's all I said, and these guys are going out of there ways to count how many posts I made in the NXT thread, which oh by the way, is the same amount I made in this AEW thread.

You know what's also weird, when I posted praise and excitement about AEW in the NXT thread, nobody lost their shit.

When I takes about things NXT did that I didn't like, nobody lost their shit.

But God forbid I don't blow loads to AEW, well then I'm the biased one.

Hardcore AEW fans suck and are the biggest drawback to what otherwise is a mostly enjoyable product.

[#1-norm-fan]

When I takes about things NXT did that I didn't like, nobody lost their shit.

When you start saying dumb things to try to hate on NXT in the same manner, I will be sure to ridicule for it. Like, say... if you switched and seriously began posting stuff like "Another win in the ratings for AEW! NXT's response?" and then posted a tweet from an NXT wrestler and try to use it as a "gotcha" toward NXT, I would shit on you for saying something stupid. Kinda like I did when you made this post...

Another million views in the bank for NXT!

AEW's response...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m just gonna leave this here.....WALTER=worst wrestling name ever. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JustSayin?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JustSayin</a></p>&mdash; Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1177108479720509441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nice one "Chris" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That's why you catch hell when you try to shit on AEW and others don't. Because you're a try-hard. And you say really dumb, nonsensical things in a smug manner on NXT's behalf. And it's gross to people.

[#1-norm-fan]

By the way, 1.4 million viewers in the bank for AEW!

I would post WWE's response but Seth Rollins apparently deleted his Twitter.

[Ultra Mantis]

Just to clear this up for you xrod, I have not watched this show. I have not watched NXT. I have not stated a preference. If I have a bias it's New Japan because that's what I actually watch.

In case you missed the purpose of my post regarding thread statistics, the point is that you are a truly awful, unintelligent contributor. The fact you have the second most posts in that thread, behind only the distinctly pompous Noid, who somehow managed to post over 100 times in two hours, indicates that the majority posting about live NXT on TPWW are classless morons who like to cast aspertions about others while denying the truth of their own unsavoury behaviour. In that sense, with no context of either show, the moral victory goes to AEW.

Now would you like to accuse me of enjoying Joey Ryan or anything else while we are here?

[xrodmuc316]

Just to clear this up for you xrod, I have not watched this show. I have not watched NXT. I have not stated a preference. If I have a bias it's New Japan because that's what I actually watch.

In case you missed the purpose of my post regarding thread statistics, the point is that you are a truly awful, unintelligent contributor. The fact you have the second most posts in that thread, behind only the distinctly pompous Noid, who somehow managed to post over 100 times in two hours, indicates that the majority posting about live NXT on TPWW are classless morons who like to cast aspertions about others while denying the truth of their own unsavoury behaviour. In that sense, with no context of either show, the moral victory goes to AEW.

Now would you like to accuse me of enjoying Joey Ryan or anything else while we are here?

I'm classless, when I'm the one posting without personally attacking other posters. The purpose of your post is to sling insults for no other reason then you are seething for I don't even know why.

And yet you can't seem to grasp that I made as many post in the AEW thread as I did in the NXT thread, cause I was watching both shows. I never said "look which thread has the most posts". Who cares?

I mean we are at a point where we can't like both shows without getting ridiculed.

I get it, I do poke at AEW, but guess what, I poke at NXT and WWE as well. When I do that about WWE, NXT, nobody cares. I do it about AEW and people flip out, accuse me of all sorts of things, and act like all I do is praise WWE like a brainwashed person and only hate AEW.

Truth is I've paid for 3 AEW PPVs, watched the 2 free ones, watched the road to Dynamite on Tuesday, watched Dynamite last night, and will watch it next week.

I can't do much more to support their product, but it is impossible for me to be as loyal to AEW as some of the posters here are, or be as loyal to WWE as those posters assume I am.

You guys have taken the fun out of posting about wrestling.

[owenbrown]

gotta say it was a pretty good show

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/WojEblC.png

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/XuMbsGr.png

[Ultra Mantis]

I'm classless, when I'm the one posting without personally attacking other posters. The purpose of your post is to sling insults for no other reason then you are seething for I don't even know why.

And yet you can't seem to grasp that I made as many post in the AEW thread as I did in the NXT thread, cause I was watching both shows. I never said "look which thread has the most posts". Who cares?

I mean we are at a point where we can't like both shows without getting ridiculed.

I get it, I do poke at AEW, but guess what, I poke at NXT and WWE as well. When I do that about WWE, NXT, nobody cares. I do it about AEW and people flip out, accuse me of all sorts of things, and act like all I do is praise WWE like a brainwashed person and only hate AEW.

Truth is I've paid for 3 AEW PPVs, watched the 2 free ones, watched the road to Dynamite on Tuesday, watched Dynamite last night, and will watch it next week.

I can't do much more to support their product, but it is impossible for me to be as loyal to AEW as some of the posters here are, or be as loyal to WWE as those posters assume I am.

You guys have taken the fun out of posting about wrestling.

I'm a seething mad AEW hardcore fanboy who is only here to stop you having a good time. I give you credit, that's not a personal attack, if only because its wildly inaccurate.

[Evil Vito]

Lol X-Rod is burying himself so much

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ultra Mantis throwing haymakers in here. Jesus.

[rez]

https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/that-escalated-quickly.jpg

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I like to think my eternal heelishness rubbed off a little bit on Ultra Mantis in this situation.

[Fignuts]

https://i.imgur.com/jeBTsok.png



NXT went all out THIS week and had a better show THIS week. It's literally all I said.


https://i.imgur.com/llpi6rO.png

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Except it is hate and bias when just because somebody says NXT has a better show all these AEW super supporters have shitfits.

I'm not the one in this thread calling people douchebags or gaping assholes.

Saying I'm shitting on AEW for no reason. There is a very specific reason, and that's because saying anything but AEW is the greatest thing even works multiple users here into an absolute uproar where they just make up all this horrible stuff I said about AEW.

I got this much anger by saying NXT had a better show. It's all I said, and these guys are going out of there ways to count how many posts I made in the NXT thread, which oh by the way, is the same amount I made in this AEW thread.

You know what's also weird, when I posted praise and excitement about AEW in the NXT thread, nobody lost their shit.

When I takes about things NXT did that I didn't like, nobody lost their shit.

But God forbid I don't blow loads to AEW, well then I'm the biased one.

Hardcore AEW fans suck and are the biggest drawback to what otherwise is a mostly enjoyable product.

I'm sorry you feel that way. This does not change the fact that which show is better has no correct answer.

[Triple A]

Orange Cassidy rules and has very wide appeal imo and any1 shitting on him for being signed by AEW is dumb imo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OMG this is the CUTEST thing. I don't know who took this photo, or who it is (if this is you, chime in - this is awesome!), but this is freaking ADORABLE. &lt;3 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/bKCwjgYUxR">pic.twitter.com/bKCwjgYUxR</a></p>&mdash; ��Phoenix�� (@Phoenixnjpw) <a href="https://twitter.com/Phoenixnjpw/status/1179818114092916736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[rez]

Orange Cassidy rules and has very wide appeal imo and any1 shitting on him for being signed by AEW is dumb imo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OMG this is the CUTEST thing. I don't know who took this photo, or who it is (if this is you, chime in - this is awesome!), but this is freaking ADORABLE. &lt;3 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/bKCwjgYUxR">pic.twitter.com/bKCwjgYUxR</a></p>&mdash; ��Phoenix�� (@Phoenixnjpw) <a href="https://twitter.com/Phoenixnjpw/status/1179818114092916736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:y: <--- but Orange Cassidy style

[Emperor Smeat]

Orange Cassidy rules and has very wide appeal imo and any1 shitting on him for being signed by AEW is dumb imo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OMG this is the CUTEST thing. I don't know who took this photo, or who it is (if this is you, chime in - this is awesome!), but this is freaking ADORABLE. &lt;3 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/bKCwjgYUxR">pic.twitter.com/bKCwjgYUxR</a></p>&mdash; ��Phoenix�� (@Phoenixnjpw) <a href="https://twitter.com/Phoenixnjpw/status/1179818114092916736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

AEW could make a ton of money off of O.C. branded oranges similar to NXT slapping the Street Profits branding on regular red party cups.

[rez]

AEW could make a ton of money off of O.C. branded oranges similar to NXT slapping the Street Profits branding on regular red party cups.

https://cdn.influenster.com/media/product/image/2ba5620ab4fcc096bf987b34209ba424.png.750x750_q85ss0_progressive.jpg

They aren't oranges but man are they delicious. It could be a running gag

[Vastardikai]

Orange Cassidy rules and has very wide appeal imo and any1 shitting on him for being signed by AEW is dumb imo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OMG this is the CUTEST thing. I don't know who took this photo, or who it is (if this is you, chime in - this is awesome!), but this is freaking ADORABLE. &lt;3 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/bKCwjgYUxR">pic.twitter.com/bKCwjgYUxR</a></p>&mdash; ��Phoenix�� (@Phoenixnjpw) <a href="https://twitter.com/Phoenixnjpw/status/1179818114092916736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In all honesty, he's one broken top rope from a career ending injury. (how is he stopping himself from falling on his head when running the ropes with his hands in his pockets?)

[Mr. Pierre]

This show was an excellent debut. I’m very excited for Moxley vs Omega

[Destor]

Orange Cassidy rules and has very wide appeal imo and any1 shitting on him for being signed by AEW is dumb imo

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i wonder if the kid is one of the boy's children or if its a kid of someone from the production staff
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[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My son �� <a href="https://t.co/LOuizx3Agj">pic.twitter.com/LOuizx3Agj</a></p>&mdash; DLR aka OWB (@DerekEsquire) <a href="https://twitter.com/DerekEsquire/status/1179909834763833345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">He was posing for pics after the show. I was dead. He set up a chair for each pic and never broke character. <a href="https://t.co/0YaWfh64AJ">pic.twitter.com/0YaWfh64AJ</a></p>&mdash; DLR aka OWB (@DerekEsquire) <a href="https://twitter.com/DerekEsquire/status/1179910728263831552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Droford]

https://i.imgur.com/WojEblC.png

the only thing Ive ever said on here about AEW that was the least bit critical was 50 bucks for their PPVs before they even aired a show was too damn expensive. and if I go to full gear that point might be moot for me as well since I sort of think they should have gotten a few more weeks of tv under their belt before another PPV

[Droford]

Orange Cassidy rules and has very wide appeal imo and any1 shitting on him for being signed by AEW is dumb imo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OMG this is the CUTEST thing. I don't know who took this photo, or who it is (if this is you, chime in - this is awesome!), but this is freaking ADORABLE. &lt;3 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/bKCwjgYUxR">pic.twitter.com/bKCwjgYUxR</a></p>&mdash; ��Phoenix�� (@Phoenixnjpw) <a href="https://twitter.com/Phoenixnjpw/status/1179818114092916736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

that kid was aewsome, they showed him on the screens about 4 or 5 times he never broke character...top level cosplay commitment

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This. Is. Awesome. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/atlwagIWqS">pic.twitter.com/atlwagIWqS</a></p>&mdash; Arby's (@Arbys) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arbys/status/1179574335377412096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lol

[Loose Cannon]

I enjoyed the show. it definitely had a big feel to it. More then TNA ever had in my opinion. I just hope they can sustain viewership over the next few weeks and months. I get worried about people losing interest watching a lot of no names or WWE lifelong mid carders. Seeing Swagger was cool and all, but will people really care about him? They have to crush it with the writing, promos and storylines. I expect them to hover around 1.0 for a while as they try and figure out things.

[owenbrown]

I almost thought Riho was gonna be seriously hurt during some of those in ring spots

[Lock Jaw]

Not a huge fan of Riho, but I guess it was better than all the possible negativity to be had from Nyla winning

[Verbose Minch]

Not a huge fan of Riho, but I guess it was better than all the possible negativity to be had from Nyla winning

Riho is definitely a better choice than Nyla. But goddamn does her offence look weak

[Lock Jaw]

My prob with Riho is that she seems very "generic".... nothing about her seems to "stand out" or "set her apart".

[Verbose Minch]

All I think when I see her is "damn she's small"

[Vastardikai]

What's crazy to me is that she's been wrestling for 14 years.

[#1-norm-fan]

Jim Cornette called this a “good show” and gave it the edge over NXT. They even impressed Jim fucking Cornette. Good job, AEW.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

No no no. Nxt had the better matches and show and therefore they win despite blowing out nxt in the ratings and in word of mouth.

[Mr. Nerfect]

104/163 posts in the NXT thread are noid posts and 2nd place is xrod with 22. Oof.

Why would you go out of your way to count them? Very odd. And I was one of the few watching NXT, so of course they’re mainly my posts. I tapped out on AEW some time ago. But I would expect the new shiny thing to get more attention for their debut.

[Ultra Mantis]

It literally takes one click to see who has posted in a thread and how many times. Why would you go out of your way to post in a dead thread over 100 times?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, that doesn’t answer why you would do it. I was sharing my thoughts on the show I was watching. Why anything, Mantis?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Lol, that doesn’t answer why you would do it. I was sharing my thoughts on the show I was watching. Why anything, Mantis?

it's just because you're fucking annoying.

[Ultra Mantis]

Lol, that doesn’t answer why you would do it. I was sharing my thoughts on the show I was watching. Why anything, Mantis?

Why did I check who posted? Well Noid, I didn't watch either show and was interested to read the reactions of people who did, however, before I did this I clicked on the post counts to see who had contributed to each thread. Seeing that you had four times the amount of posts in that thread as the next guy, in this case the equally repellant xrod, I decided not to bother reading it because why on earth would anyone want to waste their time reading over 100 of your posts in a linear thread? Astonished by how poorly the NXT thread had performed from both the view of post quality and engagement, I decided to share that here, as it's a relevant information point to judge how this first "head to head" was received by the TPWW community.

[Ultra Mantis]

Also as Dale said, you are fucking annoying.

[screech]

lol Noid trying to call someone out for not answering a question

[screech]

Cody shared a thing on Twitter touting an upcoming series called AEW: Dark on the company YouTube channel that will showcase dark matches and segments from Dynamite. It will be hosted by Tony Schiavone.

I like that this will be an official thing from the company, rather than hearing about sweet matches and only maybe being able to see them somewhere eventually. Plus it's a good way to push subscribers to their YouTube so people can see the "Road to" videos they've been making.

[Ultra Mantis]

lol Noid trying to call someone out for not answering a question

Not even the question he asked at that.

"Why did you go out out of your way to manually count my posts? Odd behavior"
"I didnt go out of my way at all. I literally clicked once on the post count"
"Lol avoiding the question! Discredited!"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not even the question he asked at that.

"Why did you go out out of your way to manually count my posts? Odd behavior"
"I didnt go out of my way at all. I literally clicked once on the post count"
"Lol avoiding the question! Discredited!"

I didn’t say that, you stalky knob, I said it doesn’t explain why you would do that. I didn’t “call you out.” Have a fucking sook and play the victim more.
You did go on to explain why you would, but it’s still really weird. You could just go into a thread. I can tell you who has posted in here without using a post count.

If you want to be discredited so badly, I’d suggest a better reason is because you’re a bad poster. These boards have gone to shit with actual shits like you stanking up the joint. As Destor said, xrod contributes to conversation. All you are is a pretentious cunt. And that’s coming from me. You lost the right to look down on anyone the first time you “Well, actually’d” about New Japan. You don’t have the high ground when you are not only a snob, but often an incorrect one.

I’m going to put you on my ignore list now, because I can’t remember the last Ultra Mantis post that actually contained anything interesting. Imagine being such a dickhead that you try and mock people for discussing wrestling on a wrestling discussion board. If you don’t want to read people, don’t fucking read them, you wanker. :y:

[Emperor Smeat]

Cody shared a thing on Twitter touting an upcoming series called AEW: Dark on the company YouTube channel that will showcase dark matches and segments from Dynamite. It will be hosted by Tony Schiavone.

I like that this will be an official thing from the company, rather than hearing about sweet matches and only maybe being able to see them somewhere eventually. Plus it's a good way to push subscribers to their YouTube so people can see the "Road to" videos they've been making.

Matt Jackson also mentioned recently that the whole wins-loss thing will also count there so its gives some added incentive for people to watch the show.

[Ultra Mantis]

So much projection and so little reality. Yep that's a Noid post.

Did you skip the whole bit where I said I dont read your posts and I dont need to because of the post count link? I know you dont actually realise it's a feature because despite posting 500 times a day you dont actually understand how message boards work, but look into it, it's a great time saver.

Pointing out I watch New Japan makes me a snob? Lol fuck off, everyone has a bias to what they enjoy. Did I say that makes me superior somewhere? Anywhere? Hello? Is posting 100 times to yourself really a discussion? Are you trying to say Destor thinks I'm a bad poster? Are you sure about that? Do you have an answer to any of these questions?

Glad you find me so innocuous you need to put me on ignore though. Cant remember any of my posts but I'm always wrong. Solid reasoning. 10/10

[screech]

Matt Jackson also mentioned recently that the whole wins-loss thing will also count there so its gives some added incentive for people to watch the show.

I like it. That can also build a nice story for someone "earning their way" to TV by doing well in dark matches.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Someone should let Ultra Mantis know that now that I’ve got him ignored I can’t read what he’s saying. It’s bliss. Bye, bye, Mantis, you miserable fuck.

[GD]

Someone should let Ultra Mantis know that now that I’ve got him ignored I can’t read what he’s saying. It’s bliss. Bye, bye, Mantis, you miserable fuck.

He hasn't blocked you so I think he can read this post just fine.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He hasn't blocked you so I think he can read this post just fine.

Uh, I don’t care if he can read what I’m saying.

[Ultra Mantis]

Noid lacks the self awareness to realise he is performing the social equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and blowing raspberries. Which, in truth, is really no different to any of his other 48,408 posts.

[GD]

Noid lacks the self awareness to realise he is performing the social equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears and blowing raspberries. Which, in truth, is really no different to any of his other 48,408 posts.

I wonder if he can view your posts if I quote them. Just curious.

[GD]

Uh, I don’t care if he can read what I’m saying.

Oh, I thought you wanted to let him know that you had blocked him.

[Ultra Mantis]

He doesnt care if I can read it, but he wants YOU to read it and tell me what it said so he can be sure I've seen it because he really wants me to know he doesnt care if I know, his feathers are not at all ruffled despite his neg reps and abusive posts, and above all he is definitely not making himself look like an even bigger idiot than he did before this exchange took place.

[GD]

He doesnt care if I can read it, but he wants YOU to read it and tell me what it said so he can be sure I've seen it because he really wants me to know he doesnt care if I know, his feathers are not at all ruffled despite his neg reps and abusive posts, and above all he is definitely not making himself look like an even bigger idiot than he did before this exchange took place.

Say no to online bullying.

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems AEW realized they goofed up with the "ref discretion" stuff in the 6-man tag match main event and tweaking their "rules" so it doesn't come off as odd in the future.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What an unbelievable match! Riho is special.<br><br>I personally think it was a blown call by the official, BUT the officials have it up to their discretion and they’re the law. Definitely reviewed though and I imagine won’t happen again. <a href="https://t.co/Tt9Ew4mXod">https://t.co/Tt9Ew4mXod</a></p>&mdash; Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1180935468797616128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Between this and other stuff they've been open about, AEW is a lot more aware of mistakes they make and wanting to fix it instead of being extremely stubborn and dragging their feet on making changes for the better like WWE.

[Tom Guycott]

Seems AEW realized they goofed up with the "ref discretion" stuff in the 6-man tag match main event and tweaking their "rules" so it doesn't come off as odd in the future.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What an unbelievable match! Riho is special.<br><br>I personally think it was a blown call by the official, BUT the officials have it up to their discretion and they’re the law. Definitely reviewed though and I imagine won’t happen again. <a href="https://t.co/Tt9Ew4mXod">https://t.co/Tt9Ew4mXod</a></p>&mdash; Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1180935468797616128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Between this and other stuff they've been open about, AEW is a lot more aware of mistakes they make and wanting to fix it instead of being extremely stubborn and dragging their feet on making changes for the better like WWE.

Where's that referee?! he was trying to FUCK ON HER!!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, I thought you wanted to let him know that you had blocked him.

Nah, I just imagine he’s still talking about me. It’s bliss when you get rid of the cunt chunks on here. You’d be surprised how few people are actually interesting.

[Droford]

AEW gonna be delayed tomorrow by baseball probably

[Jordan]

AEW Dark now available on Youtube.

[Jordan]

AEW gonna be delayed tomorrow by baseball probably

Don't say that :mad::rant::nono:

[Emperor Smeat]

AEW gonna be delayed tomorrow by baseball probably

Had MLB scheduled Nats-Dodgers game for 8:45pm or 9pm, AEW likely completely avoids that situation.

As is, its a very tight window between games. Cards-Braves Game 4 went 4 hours due to extra innings but Game 3 was 3:22 and within the window of time tomorrow's game has.