AEW Dynamite Debut (10/2)

[Triple A]

(Posting this so the AEW mega thread isn't also used for weekly Dynamite shows,,,)

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Card

Kenny Omega & The Young Bucks vs. Chris Jericho, Ortiz & Santana

AEW Women’s World Championship: Nyla Rose vs. Riho

Hangman Page vs. PAC

Cody vs. Sammy Guevara

MJF vs. Brandon Cutler

Jon Moxley will appear live

[GD]

Really curious to checkout the presentation and how they set themselves apart from the Federation. NXT's card comes across as stronger on paper.

[Triple A]

Will be watching this and switching to NXT during commercials probably for a couple of minutes, then switching back to AEW

Annoyed @ NXT being used to try to sabotage AEW, and annoyed there are two shows on (2 much shit at once...), etc.

[Lock Jaw]

I'll watch this I guess..... I don't foresee it becoming a habit, though.....

[GD]

Considering paying for Sling's Blue package since it has both TNT and USA. Unsure if it would be on delay though.

[slik]

LISTEN UP PUNKS

Heisenberg will be returning tonight in honor of AEW and I don't want any shenanigans. You PUNKS better behave.

[Evil Vito]

Punks?

CM PUNK! CM PUNK! CM PUNK!

[GD]

Here's the card for tonight,

AEW World Champion Chris Jericho, Ortiz & Santana versus Kenny Omega & The Young Bucks

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AEW Women's World Championship Match
Riho versus Nyla Rose

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Hangman Adam Page versus PAC

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MJF versus Brandon Cutler

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IWGP United States Champion Jon Moxley appearing live!

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Cody versus Sammy Guevera

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[ClockShot]

Might have to do a little speeding and red light running to get home in time for this.

[xrodmuc316]

Pac vs Page is the only must see match tonight. The rest are just there.

[GD]

allelitewrestling.com (https://www.allelitewrestling.com) is a joke.

[Droford]

https://i.ibb.co/3shGtsR/IMG-20191002-183659.jpg

Zoomed in and clearer

https://i.ibb.co/VVmSnw3/IMG-20191002-184333.jpg

[#1-norm-fan]

Can’t embed but they’re doing a live sound check and such on YouTube right now if anyone finds that interesting.

https://youtu.be/1HIJs82pgAQ

[Droford]

I keep seeing a bunch of people with shirts that look like the AEW logo but it's AEP..

It's a shirt for their podcast.. alrighty

[GD]

Can’t embed but they’re doing a live sound check and such on YouTube right now if anyone finds that interesting.

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[GD]

It's the same stage setup.

[Droford]

Running a trailer for the new Jay and Silent Bob movie.. weird

[slik]

Guess Meltzer didn't like my question LOL


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Los Angeles Times informed me that their AEW story at <br> <a href="https://t.co/32bvZh98e1">https://t.co/32bvZh98e1</a> is the most read story of the day, even beating out Trump stories.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1179503479951224832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You must be such a sad person. I didn't ask about this either. The LA Times contacted me. I could have not reported it I suppose. <a href="https://t.co/z8kiyFBZeW">https://t.co/z8kiyFBZeW</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1179514873861963776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Droford]

It's the same stage setup.

In an era of the Titan<strike>Tron</strike>halfpipe it's simplistic but ok.

I still have never gotten into the Chandelier though..they could ditch it

[Droford]

Can't wait to see Jack <strike>Swagger</strike>Hager

[Droford]

Excalibur JR and Tony Schiavone..still sounds weird

[Droford]

Darby Allin vs Cima dark match #1

[Mr. Nerfect]

There’s this thing in our culture now where we think attention = good. Just because people are clicking on an AEW link doesn’t mean people aren’t scoffing at it. And it certainly doesn’t mean they are either, but I’m not sure that some of these “metrics” are good indicators of popularity.

[Emperor Smeat]

https://i.ibb.co/3shGtsR/IMG-20191002-183659.jpg

Zoomed in and clearer

https://i.ibb.co/VVmSnw3/IMG-20191002-184333.jpg

Same stage as All Out but still looks nice.

Hopefully they change it up when it comes to PPVs and not pull a WWE where they just reuse the same stage design over and over again.

[Droford]

Darby with a Coffin Drop for the pin

[Triple A]

Meltzer freaking 0wned you're ass Slick

[Triple A]

Enjoy @Droford!!!

[Triple A]

Darby with a Coffin Drop for the pin

Cool... pls post if other dark matches happen(ed)!

[Droford]

Cool... pls post if other dark matches happen(ed)!

No more before. "bonus matches" after however.

[Evil Vito]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO! So hype

[rez]

my body is rdy

[Emperor Smeat]

Dynamite's intro video was pretty cool.

[slik]

Have a great time Droford!

[Cuzziebro]

Not sold on the theme song

[Dark One]

I am the biggest return of the night.

[Evil Vito]

Schiavone :love:

[Evil Vito]

*in before people moan about Excalibur's mask which has nothing to do with his abilities as a commentator*

[Triple A]

Freaking pumped

[rez]

Got chills when Tony mentioned for the first time since 2001 wrestling on TNT

[rez]

CHILLS

[Droford]

Lol Cody has his own private entrance

[rez]

Hype video rather than 20 minutes of blahblahblah like on SD/RAW

[Cuzziebro]

Brandi looks unreal

[rez]

Brandi looking absolutely stunning

[GD]

Watching both show tonights :yes:

https://i.imgur.com/cneIm2x.png

[Evil Vito]

Cody > us due to getting to have sex with Brandi

[Dark One]

What a wild journey for Cody.

[Evil Vito]

I like the commitment to neon/bright colors

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: AEW not starting off with a talking segment in the ring.

[Sepholio]

Is it me or is the camera cutting way too much? Making me want to have a seizure or something.

[Dark One]

When does Lex Luger walk out to observe?

[Loose Cannon]

i'm alread 100% more invested just hearing JR and Tony

[Evil Vito]

Hey the guy in a green smiley face shirt that sits front row to every WWE show managed to get the same seats for this.

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at the Vince Fears Ratings sign in the crowd.

[Dark One]

Is it me or is the camera cutting way too much? Making me want to have a seizure or something.

KEVIN DUNN WAS THE MOLE

[Jordan]

Eh... turning on NXT.

[Loose Cannon]

loved that Cody video package by the way.

[Triple A]

Big fan of Guevara!

[Triple A]

Thank God Schiavone is on commentary instead of Marvez

[Loose Cannon]

I'd rather have Mongo then this Luchador though. just sayin...

[Emperor Smeat]

Is it me or is the camera cutting way too much? Making me want to have a seizure or something.

Hopefully they cut back a bit as the show goes on but on the bright side, no terrible shaky cam for hits.

[#1-norm-fan]

So happy for Tony Schiavone right now.

[Triple A]

Watching both show tonights :yes:

What are you doing for audio?

I have AEW on the TV, and NXT (muted) in a lil picture in picture thing in the corner of my computer monitor

[rez]

Hard to concentrate on the match with Brandi out there

[GD]

Is it me or is the camera cutting way too much? Making me want to have a seizure or something.

Yeah! Very noticeable.

[Cuzziebro]

I really like Sammy G

[GD]

What are you doing for audio?

I have AEW on the TV, and NXT (muted) in a lil picture in picture thing in the corner of my computer monitor

Same, NXT’s on mute.

[#1-norm-fan]

Hey the guy in a green smiley face shirt that sits front row to every WWE show managed to get the same seats for this.

I thought that was him. The first ship jump!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Watching NXT first due to being a Matt Riddle mark, but will probably switch to AEW after.

[Loose Cannon]

not a big fan of the chick ref, but maybe it'll grow on me. i dunno

[Jordan]

Kind of a slow start.

[Loose Cannon]

lol throwing out the Twitter trends yessss

[GD]

Cole vs Riddle is picking up the pace.

[Jordan]

I am DVRing NXT on Sling and I will prob watch tomorrow late night. Or I will just watch it on the network lol. Maybe I don't need to DVR

[Jordan]

'Jay and Silent Bob in the front row!

[GD]

First suicide dive on TNT

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've got a day off, but I still can't bring myself to watch. Going for a hike instead. Y'all enjoy!

[Jordan]

A proctologists nightmare lmao

[#1-norm-fan]

AEW Dynamite trending number 1 on Twitter. Tony Schiavone also trending in the top 10.

[slik]

Really like this so far

[Jordan]

I've got a day off, but I still can't bring myself to watch. Going for a hike instead. Y'all enjoy!

No good egg suckin...

[xrodmuc316]

First match of the "war" easily won by NXT.

[Jordan]

Yiiiiikes that reverse superplex was scary! Cool move!

[Jordan]

Guevera looking better than ever right now.

[Cuzziebro]

Spanish Fly!

[Emperor Smeat]

Pretty great opening match but :lol: at a rollup being the finish for the 1st tv match.

[rez]

First match of the "war" easily won by NXT.

:rofl:

[Evil Vito]

Feel like we should be using spoiler tags if we mention NXT in here or AEW in the NXT thread since not everybody is flipping back and forth/will watch the other show later.

Weird to think this board was barely around for the Monday Night War so ground rules for this kinda stuff never really had to be established.

[Dark One]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great time to be a wrestling fan. <br><br>Horrible time to be the romantic partner of a wrestling fan.</p>&mdash; RJ City (@RJCity1) <a href="https://twitter.com/RJCity1/status/1179532585988435969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Jordan]

Good match to start! I'm sure NXT was better because it was a Main Event but this was slow to start but good by the end,

[Anybody Thrilla]

Good ass match

[slik]

The top trend on Twitter worldwide r/n is #AEWDynamite

[GD]

Damn, Riddle vs Cole was top notch.

[Jordan]

Feel like we should be using spoiler tags if we mention NXT in here or AEW in the NXT thread since not everybody is flipping back and forth/will watch the other show later.

Weird to think this board was barely around for the Monday Night War so ground rules for this kinda stuff never really had to be established.

Yeah I agree with that.

[#1-norm-fan]

TONYYYYYYYYYYY.

[Dark One]

Good on Jericho for not losing the belt on the way to the ring.

[xrodmuc316]

NXT first shot fired!! HOLY SHIT!!!!!!

[rez]

no fucking commercials during the match :)

[Jordan]

Jericho looks like he had some work done. But he looks great.

[slik]

JERICHO HAS CENA, er

JERICHO HAS RHODES ENOUGH

[Cuzziebro]

Feel like we should be using spoiler tags if we mention NXT in here or AEW in the NXT thread since not everybody is flipping back and forth/will watch the other show later.

Yes please

[GD]

Holy shit @NXT!

[Droford]

Jericho is awesome

[GD]

Yeah! Won’t explicitly mention any NXT spoilers.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is that the fucking green shirt motherfucker in the front row? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/yU98xLYP5o">pic.twitter.com/yU98xLYP5o</a></p>&mdash; Klondike Bill (@MrKlondikeBill) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrKlondikeBill/status/1179550590306803713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[rez]

Jericho with the camera lollolol

[Evil Vito]

Jericho just murdering Cody while commercials play has me dying :lol:

[GD]

Jericho looks like he had some work done. But he looks great.

Looking good.

[xrodmuc316]

Holy shit @NXT!

Meanwhile on AEW, they are setting up their world title fued during a commercial break for Arby's :lol:

[Jordan]

Goddamn when they don't even bend you know it hurt.

[Emperor Smeat]

Going to assume AEW sort of forgot to hire security for their 1st show considering how long Jericho's beating of Cody was and nobody around to break things up.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats to <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IAmJericho</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> and all of <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> for launching a new era <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ImWithAEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ImWithAEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWonTNT</a> creative freedom and the talent owning a piece of the action are very good things. ��</p>&mdash; Andrew Yang (@AndrewYang) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1179453479036710912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Cuzziebro]

No commercials on FITE TV

[GD]

Jericho looks mighty sexy. Shouldn’t remove his top while wrestling.

[Emperor Smeat]

Cutler's theme sounds like some sort of knockoff Game of Thrones song.

[Jordan]

Yes BRANDON CUTLER! MY favorite!

[GD]

MJF :yes:

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Fuck I love MJF. Gets a pop when his music hits only to gain heat immediately.

[Evil Vito]

MJF just completely "gets it"

[Jordan]

Cutler gotta get the upset.

[Evil Vito]

Keeping the show rolling during commercials is such a smart idea to try to prevent channel switching

[Jordan]

MJF about to show he's one of the best workers they is.

[Jordan]

LOL @ Tony I love Tony and JR together thank you aew!

[ClockShot]

Got home and caught the tail end of Cody/Samy.

How's everyone liking it so far?

[Droford]

Cutler gotta get the upset.

He gets 1st botchof the night honors

[Jordan]

Well MJF prolly "using" cause he's got some pretty obvious "acne on his back".

[Emperor Smeat]

Cutler vs MJF was decent overall but good as a cool down. MJF is gold on the mic though.

Also its only been around 35 minutes but JR sounds way better and more comfortable tonight than he did during any of AEW's PPVs before.

[Jordan]

He gets 1st botchof the night honors

Yeah well they still played it well I thought but yeah.

[Evil Vito]

MJF's definitely gonna be the holder of their first secondary belt whenever they make one

[Droford]

KevinSmith and Jason mewes are ringside

[ClockShot]

My god, Kevin Smith looks awful.

[Evil Vito]

I can't get used to a non-fat Kevin Smith

[GD]

Jay and Silent Bob :love:

[#1-norm-fan]

JAY AND SILENT BOB!!

[GD]

My god, Kevin Smith looks awful.

Better than almost dying.

[ClockShot]

Whoa. There's a block of empty seats.

[slik]

That was random

[Evil Vito]

Kevin Smith lost like 150 pounds in 6 months by eating only potatoes

[Emperor Smeat]

Left side of the tag team tournament bracket is way too stacked. Both matches and potential semis on that side are amazing on paper.

[GD]

Page 2 of the NXT thread consists exclusively of Noid posts.

[#1-norm-fan]

My god, Kevin Smith looks awful.

Lol I think he’s just got that weird “rapid weight loss” look.

[Evil Vito]

Scorpio Sky's Obama impression is fucking incredible

[#1-norm-fan]

That was an awkward segment with Mews and Smith.

[GD]

I don’t get SCU’s deal. Quality in-ring performers though.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: AEW actually has backstage security.

Way better format for interviews than WWE's backstage style that comes off awkward most of the time.

[Jordan]

Did you guys notice Tony said MLW... AEW WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP

[rez]

Did you guys notice Tony said MLW... AEW WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP

Hah yeh

[Triple A]

I don’t get SCU’s deal. Quality in-ring performers though.

Feel like they are my least favorite people in AEW tbh

[Emperor Smeat]

Page 2 of the NXT thread consists exclusively of Noid posts.

Must have been a short hike he went on if he's already back and posting there.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don’t get SCU’s deal. Quality in-ring performers though.

The whole “This is the worst town I’ve ever been in” thing comes off as very indy-corny. Not a fan.

[Droford]

Whoa. There's a block of empty seats.

The only big block is right behind the camera. A lot of suites are empty too

[Evil Vito]

I like interviewing people on the ramp. It’s an old school WCW thing I’ve always dug

[Evil Vito]

Hangman vs PAC :love:

[GD]

Must have been a short hike he went on if he's already back and posting there.

Going to the fridge for a Mountain Dew.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4 of the 5 top trends worldwide r/n are for wrestling<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXTonUSA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NXTonUSA</a> <a href="https://t.co/xbUNbHq0Fg">pic.twitter.com/xbUNbHq0Fg</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1179558692359933952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[GD]

"Highly skilled dudes" :lol:

[GD]

Still getting used to Hangman Page's entrance theme.

[Emperor Smeat]

I don’t get SCU’s deal. Quality in-ring performers though.

They are like what a team version of MJF but more annoying on purpose in terms of heel promos.

[rez]

Really like Hangman's intro.

[ClockShot]

The Man that Gravity Forgot.

Where'd I hear that before?

[#1-norm-fan]

“The Bastard” lol

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4 of the 5 top trends worldwide r/n are for wrestling<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXTonUSA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NXTonUSA</a> <a href="https://t.co/xbUNbHq0Fg">pic.twitter.com/xbUNbHq0Fg</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1179558692359933952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wonder if WWE is upset considering how much they like to brag about their social media presence and having a Takeover-caliber NXT show get out trended by AEW's debut TV show.

[GD]

"The man that gravity forgot" :yes:

PAAAAAACK!

[Jordan]

Oh man hearing Tony sell wrestling is so FUCKING REFRESHING!

[xrodmuc316]

LOL@ JR and Tony arguing about if it's cool to say "the man gravity forgot"

"Well it's on his twitter"

That was a good back and forth.

[Triple A]

One complaint about AEW is that the entrance themes sound too low and you can barely hear them...

[ClockShot]

A commercial before the bell?

Huh?

[Droford]

Earl Hebner still reffing in 2019

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Schiavone is getting some zingers in.

Him calling MJF a prick was pretty rofl

[Droford]

One complaint about AEW is that the entrance themes sound too low and you can barely hear them...

Barely hear them in the arena

[Droford]

I'm gonna have to rewatch at home for the commentary

[Heisenberg]

Hangman Page v.s. PAC next, on TNT

[Jordan]

Schiavone is getting some zingers in.

Him calling MJF a prick was pretty rofl

:lol:

I love how he just sells what he sees, its so obvious.

"And he looks to just intimidate his opponent as he enters the arena" not word for word but... he sells what they are doing. Picks up on small stuff. I love that about him.

[#1-norm-fan]

Wonder if WWE is upset considering how much they like to brag about their social media presence and having a Takeover-caliber NXT show get out trended by AEW's debut TV show.

Given the insecurity that oozes from the company, I’m sure they aren’t happy about it.

[Evil Vito]

JR is an icon but Tony is completely outclassing him because unlike JR he seems to know who everyone on the show he works for are.

[#1-norm-fan]

Have not seen Conrad Thompson in the crowd. He’s there. Wonder if he’s backstage though.

[xrodmuc316]

Earl Hebner still reffing in 2019

Fuck Earl Hebner, he screwed Bret.

[GD]

JR is an icon but Tony is completely outclassing him because unlike JR he seems to know who everyone on the show he works for are.

Couldn't agree more.

[Heisenberg]

Alex Marvez not commentating is a good sign they are listening, he was the Booger McFarland of AEW commentary

[Jordan]

This is a total ROH match. But at its best.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Firmly believe if he cut promos, he a main event level talent. He's good in the ring, he's got a good look, good finisher. They should take their time building him but I think there's something there.

[#1-norm-fan]

JR is an icon but Tony is completely outclassing him because unlike JR he seems to know who everyone on the show he works for are.

Didn’t know if it was just me. I feel like I can’t fairy judge Tony as I listen to his podcast constantly and cannot see him as anything but loveable as fuck.

[rez]

Need some more Christopher Van Vliet interviews.

[#1-norm-fan]

Alex Marvez not commentating is a good sign they are listening, he was the Booger McFarland of AEW commentary

I don’t think Booger is as bad as people make him out to be.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

And damn it feels good to hear Schiavone call a national wrestling show. Guy's still so good.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Didn’t know if it was just me. I feel like I can’t fairy judge Tony as I listen to his podcast constantly and cannot see him as anything but loveable as fuck.

Not watching RN but even Tony's MLW is sharp. He's so focused and his cadence is on point. Plus, yes, he knows everybody.

Keep in mind, the years have been kinder to Tony than JR. I just don't think JR has the energy and the strength to stay consistently on top of everything.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Need some more Christopher Van Vliet interviews.

He's a handsome, charismatic fellow

[Triple A]

damn... fucking green shirt guy is front row center at AEW too...

[Evil Vito]

I don’t think Booger is as bad as people make him out to be.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Bengals are about to go 0-4, and are losing 24-3 to an 0-3 team. Booger McFarland, &quot;I really like what Zac Taylor is doing, I like the energy this team has.&quot;</p>&mdash; ThatsGoodSports (@BrandonPerna) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonPerna/status/1178864666333728768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

Every match is (obviously) so much more interesting with the promise that wins/losses actually matter

[Dark One]

damn... fucking green shirt guy is front row center at AEW too...

Lock Jaw will lose his shit when the BIG DEFECTION happens and long-haired dude and his mom show up.

[Emperor Smeat]

AEW's cam shot from the crowd that swing towards the ring is probably the best cam style shot in wrestling in recent years. Looks great whenever they do it and they also don't overdue it like WWE's habit with new and shinny things.

[xrodmuc316]

JR is an icon but Tony is completely outclassing him because unlike JR he seems to know who everyone on the show he works for are.

JR just doesn't come across well anymore. Tony is far superior.

[Evil Vito]

Wow they aren’t doing rest holds during the commercial breaks! Revolutionary concept.

[ClockShot]

I think they're gonna come pretty close to that 20 minute limit.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

JR just doesn't come across well anymore. Tony is far superior.

JR can still be good in bursts. Having Tony there is going to be a great help.

[Triple A]

Nice

[#1-norm-fan]

Every match is (obviously) so much more interesting with the promise that wins/losses actually matter

My only fear is that every match is gonna be really competitive. If every match is “close” then it kinda makes wins and losses feel less meaningful because they could all go either way. I hope they eventually start using some guys just to job.

[Jordan]

JESUS CHRIST THAT WAS A FINSIH

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Great finish to Pac v Hangman. I love that the face doesn't have to tap to lose. They're stuck with nowhere to go and just pass. Great stuff.

[GD]

PAC-K wins! Bah Gawd!

[Evil Vito]

PAC 2-0 with both wins being over important guys due to ref stoppage. That's excellent.

[Emperor Smeat]

PAC vs Hangman was pretty good overall. Best match Page has had in AEW soo far.


Not watching RN but even Tony's MLW is sharp. He's so focused and his cadence is on point. Plus, yes, he knows everybody.

Keep in mind, the years have been kinder to Tony than JR. I just don't think JR has the energy and the strength to stay consistently on top of everything.

Besides age and some life issues in recent years, JR has struggled a lot adjusting to the faster pace of modern wrestling. Had that issue during his time with NJPW and early on with AEW.

He still one of the best when it comes to generating genuine emotions for matches.

[Triple A]

My only fear is that every match is gonna be really competitive. If every match is “close” then it kinda makes wins and losses feel less meaningful because they could all go either way. I hope they eventually start using some guys just to job.

Cody said in some interview that "quality of wins" will also matter, like college football rankings, and MJF beat Cutler pretty easily so seems like they will do it right

[#1-norm-fan]

PAC 2-0 with two submissions over two of the guys who are supposed to be top stars.

Instantly invested in him now.

[ClockShot]

The Doctor is in.

[Dark One]

Pacing of the first hour was pretty wonky. Opening with a match with the crowd white hot because it was the first match and then just a quick match (possibly truncated) between Cutler/MJR... and then everything else was just commercials and promos.

I get it, but given that NXT is throwing out a Takeover basically, I'd have gone a lot harder for the first hour.

I'm sure they'll figure it out and refine their formula. The rough product so far has been good in that it has been mostly serious/direct stuff. They had the celeb appearance and stuff, but it's not like Vickie Guerrero projectile vomiting on Stephanie McMahon or whatever.

[GD]

Mrs. Cole makes an appearance.

[GD]

Not really keen to watch this one. Going to flip over.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Nyla Rose squash coming? She's got great music.

[Evil Vito]

I have an enormous crush on Riho

[xrodmuc316]

Sigh, I was most hyped about that match coming in, but that was fairly average.

I know Hangman is one of the Elite, but I think it's time to pull back on the presenting him as a top talent for the time being. He is too bland and if he can't get a barn burner with Pac, something is clearly missing.

[slik]

Let's go Riho!

[Jordan]

I think Nyla is gonna win.

[Dark One]

My only fear is that every match is gonna be really competitive. If every match is “close” then it kinda makes wins and losses feel less meaningful because they could all go either way. I hope they eventually start using some guys just to job.

If wins and losses matter but all the matches are close, I still think that's a vast improvement over WWE's 50/50 booking in the past--I haven't watched lately to know if it's actually any better than it was. Ideally if you have someone that's won like fifteen matches straight versus somebody that's won a few matches and lost a few matches, the guy with the streak is going look better and have more momentum. But, even in "real" sports, there can be close games/upsets even with a lopsided game on paper, so I wouldn't be TOO worried about "even" matches.

[Jordan]

There is more in the division to challenge Nyla than Riho.

[Emperor Smeat]

Going to commercial before a match begins and not like seconds to a minute after it starts is another good thing AEW is doing for their show compared to WWE. Same for not having a bunch of commercials breaking up the flow of a match.

Helps make things feel more enjoyable to watch overall.

[Droford]

Nyla Rose squash coming? She's got great music.

Riho beat her earlo but I can't see her winning tonight

[Jordan]

Imagine after a few years when AEW finds the guy who they want do an undefeated gimmick with. After sticking with the wins and losses that is a sure fire hit.

[Dark One]

Not really keen to watch this one. Going to flip over.

Not putting Hikaru Shida--or a few others--was a mistake, I think. I get the dynamic they're going for, but these two strike me as pretty low on the crowd-investment scale.

[Evil Vito]

Pretty clear Nyla will win and Britt will be her first challenger

[xrodmuc316]

If wins and losses matter but all the matches are close, I still think that's a vast improvement over WWE's 50/50 booking in the past--I haven't watched lately to know if it's actually any better than it was. Ideally if you have someone that's won like fifteen matches straight versus somebody that's won a few matches and lost a few matches, the guy with the streak is going look better and have more momentum. But, even in "real" sports, there can be close games/upsets even with a lopsided game on paper, so I wouldn't be TOO worried about "even" matches.

I'd much rather a wrestler lose 6 close matches in a row then win lose win lose win lose. It tells a far better story.

[slik]

Can that belt even fit on Nyla

[Jordan]

Fatnassy booking Nyla Rose vs Nia Jax

[#1-norm-fan]

Lol. Tiny title belt.

[Jordan]

I don't mean to offend anyone but I do think that Riho probably tastes good.

[xrodmuc316]

Can that belt even fit on Nyla

Needs that Mark Henry/Big Show ECW belt extender :lol:

[Evil Vito]

I just cackled at that double footstop counter, that ruled.

[Triple A]

Don't think there have been any long ass chin locks where the person getting the chin lock just sits still for 30 seconds... glad.......

[Jordan]

Oh man if you can't take Nyla down with high cross from the top to the outside, you fucked!

[Dark One]

Don't think there have been any long ass chin locks where the person getting the chin lock just sits still for 30 seconds... glad.......

I give it a month before MJF does it to piss people off.

[#1-norm-fan]

If wins and losses matter but all the matches are close, I still think that's a vast improvement over WWE's 50/50 booking in the past--I haven't watched lately to know if it's actually any better than it was. Ideally if you have someone that's won like fifteen matches straight versus somebody that's won a few matches and lost a few matches, the guy with the streak is going look better and have more momentum. But, even in "real" sports, there can be close games/upsets even with a lopsided game on paper, so I wouldn't be TOO worried about "even" matches.

Upsets are fine. I just worry about EVERY match being competitive. Parity in real sports suck. When you can script it, you should try to avoid it. Simply making wins and losses matter is definitely an improvement over WWE booking. Hopefully they pay more attention to detail than just wins and losses though.

[Heisenberg]

I love how enthused Kevin Smith is with all this wrasslin' on TNT

[Jordan]

Just want to say this ref, Paul Turner, best in the biz.

[Evil Vito]

Ouch

[Evil Vito]

Britt Baker hasn't grasped that when you're a special guest on commentary, you're meant to talk

[Jordan]

Britt Baker hasn't grasped the purpose of being a special guest on commentary

LOL

She sucks.

[Dark One]

Upsets are fine. I just worry about EVERY match being competitive. Parity in real sports suck. When you can script it, you should try to avoid it. Simply making wins and losses matter is definitely an improvement over WWE booking. Hopefully they pay more attention to detail than just wins and losses though.

That's fair. You definitely don't want to get into a spot where people zone out for the first ten minutes because every match goes at least fifteen, for sure.

I do think it's probably wise to have a lot of even matches to start out with as you're trying to establish a lot of folks.

[Droford]

Jesus Christ at rihho on that leg drop

[Heisenberg]

Dark One, resident top fan of Dark Order, on TNT

[Emperor Smeat]

Not putting Hikaru Shida--or a few others--was a mistake, I think. I get the dynamic they're going for, but these two strike me as pretty low on the crowd-investment scale.

At least with Shida, supposedly she's still busy with other commitments in Japan at least for the next few weeks.

Would have made the results of this match a lot more obvious and doubt AEW wants their first ever women's champ to pull a Lesnar.

[slik]

So far I like AEW

It's not perfect but it's easy to watch

[Heisenberg]

Jesus Christ at rihho on that leg drop


Damn straight, brother

[rez]

So glad to be watching wrestling and not have to witness the little lung in a big big world

[Dark One]

Damn, Nyla did her like one impressive move--the hanging knee drop--during a commercial.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

She has ZERO charisma. She should be cutting a mini promo every time she says something.

[Dark One]

Dark One, resident top fan of Dark Order, on TNT

I've loaned them my spooky perverts.

[Emperor Smeat]

Riho is lucky she didn't snap her leg or worse once her body buckled trying to flip over Nyla.

[Evil Vito]

Still a Moxley appearance and a 6-man tag. Hope they didn't fail to budget their time again. Unless TNT gave them an overrun.

[Evil Vito]

So far I like AEW

It's not perfect but it's easy to watch

And it’s mainly been wrestling too. NOVEL CONCEPT.