AEW: Revolution 2021

[Volare]

And the One Winged Angel with Moxley using the exploding rope to stop the pinfall.

[joshwoodsrohfandm]

I heard good things about sting and his street fight and that it was a success. I am happy for him as my favorite all time. I may not love the brand he's in but I am glad he enjoys the freedom of being his own working with Darby is fun for him, sharing that creativity with Darby and working with opponents like tazz shows just what AEW can be.

I heard the show was great too in general.

[Nark Order]

I'd take an explosion let down over Katie Vick, Gobbedly Gooker, King Booker, Vince saying the N word, the higher power, Nia Jax as a person, HLA, Eugene, etc. You get my point.

[Nark Order]

That being said, the ending was pretty awful.

[xrodmuc316]

Having slept on it and seeing how they are trying to spin it is an attempt I guess, but they can't explain Eddie or the announcers.

It makes them all look like idiots and in the end, that excuse maybe gives Omega 1% more heel credibility, but it destroys the credibility of Eddie, the announcers, and the company overall.

It's the same wink wink crap that they constantly do. The actual company should be aware of the problems, it should not be treated like an episode of Being the Elite.

[GD]

AEW is riddled with production issues from the start. They were just a bit too ambitious here.

[Nark Order]

It was an obvious mistake but I'm all for them making a storyline to explain it or even a joke storyline. They can't just let something like that go unaddressed and doing a serious apology or something would be lame as fuck.

[Maluco]

Probably would have been better to play up the confusion and have it be a mystery as to who tampered with the explosions and let the angle play out over time.

As it was, it’s one of the most hilarious botches seen on a PPV. Takes me back to TNA’s blindfold match and the electrified cage. They must be so disappointed but it really is the only talking point coming out of the show.

It’s one of those that is funnier every time you watch it.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It's the announcers selling it that make it such an lol moment. Khan is alreadypivoting to Omega being a shitty engineer and I'm sure Kingston will cut a promo explaining things.

I'm excited you see face Eddie chasing the belt.

[xrodmuc316]

It was an obvious mistake but I'm all for them making a storyline to explain it or even a joke storyline. They can't just let something like that go unaddressed and doing a serious apology or something would be lame as fuck.

I don't dislike that they are addressing it, but address it in a way that helps everybody. Just saying "haha dumb Kenny doesn't know how to make explosions" is bad because it only explains away the bad explosions.

It does nothing to help the credibility of the announcers or Eddie.

[IC Champion]

It was an obvious mistake but I'm all for them making a storyline to explain it or even a joke storyline. They can't just let something like that go unaddressed and doing a serious apology or something would be lame as fuck.

Honestly the getting roasted for it until the next dynamite will be the worst thing that happens to AEW because of the whole debacle. It’s the pro wrestling business ffs, it’s not like fans haven’t accepted this as part of the deal every now and then.

[drave]

Wonder if that was supposed to be the last we see of Moxley though. Because if so, they need to change that.

[slik]

Tony said he wanted everyone to be talkin' about AEW Monday, he accomplished that!

Another big win for A E DUB imo

[Bad News Gertner]

AEW promises are like buying something off WISH

[IC Champion]

I’m still waiting on a weighted vest and dress for my ex gf.

[Volare]

Spending $$ on your ex? She got blackmail over you or something?

[Sting Fan]

I was never a fan of the match for many reasons but overhyped and undersell was always a concern for me.

The more I think about the Christian thing the happier I am. Outside of Brock, Batista, Cena (no one actualy thought that did they??) or Punk I dont think theres a bigger get out there.

Hes HOF worthy, can still wrestle, former champion etc. Its a good get of a guy who by all accounts who will probably add backstage as well. While it didnt meet the hype generated by those other names people speculated on its still a fair piece of excitement they created without a bait and switch to burn the goodwill.

I do kind of wish it was Punk... but im not sure he would be good for them either.

[IC Champion]

I saw my sister earlier today and was hyping the explosion to be a huge deal. I said they killed Jon Moxley on PPV. I just got a text from her saying “ Sparklers and a firecracker is not an explosion”. I dunno, made me laugh.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Tony Khan is already back on Twitter promising giant surprises. Holy shit, he cannot stop. He’s beating off a dead dog at this point.

AEW are also targeting the Twitter videos of people sharing the Xplosion. Other times they have done this are when Matt Hardy got concussed and they didn’t stop the match, and when Alex Reynolds got fucked up and they kept going.

This company is shit.

[IC Champion]

Yeah. They need to fucking step their game up and kill a wrestler on PPV and never once consider stopping the show. That’s how the big boys roll.

[drave]

They knew from the beginning they would hit the 30 minute mark. How you do that and still get the dud of a turd is beyond me.


I always hated WCW pyro. This was worse.




Other than that, the PPV was a damn good time.

[xrodmuc316]

Tony Khan is already back on Twitter promising giant surprises. Holy shit, he cannot stop. He’s beating off a dead dog at this point.

AEW are also targeting the Twitter videos of people sharing the Xplosion. Other times they have done this are when Matt Hardy got concussed and they didn’t stop the match, and when Alex Reynolds got fucked up and they kept going.

This company is shit.

https://i2.yuki.la/a/6b/e89639125d143ce3b6b70fc49f7c8c4e6b9a2c67864d5a16dc73c1262fb746ba.png

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Destor]

i watched the main. shame the match was good save the technical error.

[Volare]

Tony Khan is already back on Twitter promising giant surprises. Holy shit, he cannot stop. He’s beating off a dead dog at this point.

AEW are also targeting the Twitter videos of people sharing the Xplosion. Other times they have done this are when Matt Hardy got concussed and they didn’t stop the match, and when Alex Reynolds got fucked up and they kept going.

This company is shit.

I just looked up twitter...where?

[IC Champion]

i watched the main. shame the match was good save the technical error.

Is there any news about what went wrong yet?

[Destor]

3rd party handles pyro. they fucked up.

[xrodmuc316]

Guys...

https://i.imgflip.com/50wk4a.jpg

[Volare]

Uhhhh, could've done a better crop and better photo.

[screech]

I just looked up twitter...where?

lol Tony hasn't tweeted since last night. Noid is full of shit.

[rez]

Guys...

https://i.imgflip.com/50wk4a.jpg

Lol

[xrodmuc316]

Uhhhh, could've done a better crop and better photo.

I just pulled that off impflip, didn't make it myself, but too funny

[Lock Jaw]

AEW's only way to recover from this is to immediately have Christian unify all the titles

[xrodmuc316]

AEW's only way to recover from this is to immediately have Christian unify all the titles

I'm hopeful they actually have something for Christian. They brought in Matt Hardy and Rusev without any real plan.

[Volare]

I just pulled that off impflip, didn't make it myself, but too funny

Oh no I get it all the way, but still lol.

[xrodmuc316]

Is there any news about what went wrong yet?

Some fan footage is starting to come out now showing the camera guys standing right next to the "explosions", so clearly it was not a detonation issue, because they wouldn't have been standing right there if it was meant to be bigger.

I think maybe they meant for all the sparklers and smoke bombs to go off at the same time, which would have been marginally better, but still they probably should have at least cut to those cameras that were right there so the whole shot would be filled with sparks and smoke.

It was just badly produced.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ah, I see what went wrong...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRevolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRevolution</a> <br><br>cc: <a href="https://twitter.com/Maffewgregg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@maffewgregg</a> <a href="https://t.co/IJVRPb6Ufj">pic.twitter.com/IJVRPb6Ufj</a></p>&mdash; Stan The Dry Bear (@StanTheDryBear) <a href="https://twitter.com/StanTheDryBear/status/1368794714573467652?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Destor]

Some fan footage is starting to come out now showing the camera guys standing right next to the "explosions", so clearly it was not a detonation issue, because they wouldn't have been standing right there if it was meant to be bigger.

I think maybe they meant for all the sparklers and smoke bombs to go off at the same time, which would have been marginally better, but still they probably should have at least cut to those cameras that were right there so the whole shot would be filled with sparks and smoke.

It was just badly produced.
this is a really bad post.

[Destor]

on the brightside that post inspired me to get out some old fmw stuff i havent watched in ages

[Destor]

Onita Funk where tge ref wears that fucking bee keeper suit. immense. crowd is so hot

[Destor]

there's never anything bad about a terry funk match. always brilliant

[xrodmuc316]

this is a really bad post.

Howso?

[Destor]

this isnt the first time bomb death match. your assumations you make about how they work is verifiably wrong. camera men and photographers have no issue covering the match from ringside. at all.



its a work. they arent bombs. people stand next to fireworks all the time.

[Destor]

goddam terrys left is wreckless. i love it

[Destor]

that match was real fun. good times. there's only one terry funk

[Bad News Gertner]

there's never anything bad about a terry funk match. always brilliant

Greatest of All Time IMO

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Which “explosion” was worse? This one or Funk/Cactus

[Bad News Gertner]

on the brightside that post inspired me to get out some old fmw stuff i havent watched in ages

The first tapes I ever bought off a list were FMW and Big Japan tapes in the late 90's. Mr. Pogo cutting bitches left and right.

[Bad News Gertner]

Which “explosion” was worse? This one or Funk/Cactus

Funk/Cactus was really bad

[xrodmuc316]

this isnt the first time bomb death match. your assumations you make about how they work is verifiably wrong. camera men and photographers have no issue covering the match from ringside. at all.



its a work. they arent bombs. people stand next to fireworks all the time.

Right, I never said they were supposed to be real bombs. I said if the plan was for a lot more pyro they would have advised the cameramen.

The point is that it lends to the theory that it was just badly produced, not that some of the pyro malfunctioned and it was really going to be bigger.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The sparklers going off first really killed it. You think explosion you think a big concussive boom. They had that but it seemed late.

[IC Champion]

My favourite part was Excalibur’s reaction and being completely unsure of how to sell it.

[Volare]

I was kinda thinking smoke cannons were gonna shoot up then with all the smoke, whatever "bombs"...but like I mentioned earlier, Tony runs his "sensory inclusive" stuff, like the "quiet" pyro and flames and stuff.

[Emperor Smeat]

The bomb sounds were fine, it just needed a ton more smoke to sell the effect of a big explosion.

If the sparklers went in a downward motion, it could have created the effect of a fuse being lit for the bombs under the ring. Instead the sparklers just shot out as normal and everything ended up looking way more goofier than it should have been.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the Observer Radio, something like around 80% of the pyro AEW had rigged for the exploding deathmatch ended up being duds.

Not just the stuff under the ring for the big finale but also the pyro for the landmine boards around the ring.

Someone who claims to have attended the event mentioned the pyro crew was having some problems setting up the ring area in time for the match to start.

[Destor]

Greatest of All Time IMOi dunno about goat based simply on the money issue but among the most brilliant
without question. his instincts were so rarely wrong

[Destor]

Right, I never said they were supposed to be real bombs. I said if the plan was for a lot more pyro they would have advised the cameramen.

The point is that it lends to the theory that it was just badly produced, not that some of the pyro malfunctioned and it was really going to be bigger.
i know you want to blame management and nothing will talk you off that ledge but you dont have any clue what youre talking about and anyone who does sees that

[IC Champion]

I need some more Funk in my life. What are some must watches fellas?

[Jordan]

This whole situation really is depressing. Even though I was unhappy with AEW going 50/50 on the barbed wire itself, meaning the ropes wrapped instead of replaced and fake barbed wire on the outside "exploding" boards. And even though the explosions on the ropes weren't really that dangerous looking (unless you happen to be looking right into them and the flash could temporarily blind you)...


Even with all of that the planned finish would have been great with the proper explosion. I realized what was going to happen when Kingston came out and I was like "oh fuck this is a serious face turn for him" and that wet fart of an explosion made me laugh so hard. But now I just feel depressed about it. Like I feel a physical feeling in my gut.


I feel bad for AEW and everyone involved because it's truly a "Shockmaster" moment but on a much bigger scale. Immediately it made me think how at Mania 16 (I believe) WWF was going to do an exploding (or electric) cage match at with Kane and X-Pac. I believe it was set to go but when they tested it the effect wasn't good enough or there was a variable of failure that caused Vince to pull the gimmick altogether.


This AEW failure made me think about McMahon at his best, his experience and iron fist. His best days are far behind but you can't deny at one point he had the experience to limit an idea that (in all likelihood) was brought up outside of the typical WWF box.


I know Tony grew up like me with a similar taste for all things Wrestling. But it's also painfully obvious who should be calling the shots as far as creative goes. The EVP'S other than Cody really have no buisness booking matches or angles in a major way.


Kenny didn't excell in NJPW because he wrote his booking he excelled because Gedo wrote his stories and he had his own creativity within that structure.


The Young Bucks should be focused on merchandise, Kenny on the video games, and Cody who is the grandson of a plummer should be the creative in charge next to Tony.


I am not sure of Jericho's real presence backstage but he also seems to be a shot caller and maybe that's okay, but he also got Luther a job and I'm really tired of seeing him front row every time I turn on AEW.

[Bad News Gertner]

I need some more Funk in my life. What are some must watches fellas?

I quit match with Flair at Clash of Champions 9

GAB 89 vs Flair

1981 Empty Arena Match with Lawler

Dory and Terry vs Hansen and Gordy from Japan 1983. He's got a couple matches vs Stan from 82-83 Japan that are dynamite

[xrodmuc316]

I need some more Funk in my life. What are some must watches fellas?

He had a hell of a match on Raw vs Mick Foley when Dude Love was in the middle of his fued with Stone Cold over the title.

He also had a great match against Bret Hart at an ECW show about 2 months before the Screwjob.

[Sepholio]

I still remember an already old Terry Funk during his run in WCW around 2000-01. He would come hobbling out to the ring and I would always be like "man this dude is too old now, its time to hang it up" and then he would still out wrestle damn near everyone around him. Has there ever been anyone else with the longevity he has had?

[Destor]

I still remember an already old Terry Funk during his run in WCW around 2000-01. He would come hobbling out to the ring and I would always be like "man this dude is too old now, its time to hang it up" and then he would still out wrestle damn near everyone around him. Has there ever been anyone else with the longevity he has had?
flair but funk i way up there

[Vastardikai]

I need some more Funk in my life. What are some must watches fellas?

I feel like I have to bring up the match he had one time in WWF. I posted it before in the "Memorable Jobber Matches" thread. In essence, Terry Funk beats up a ring attendant for putting on his hat, then beats up the jobber. He takes a huge bump over the top rope that the crowd goes wild for. Vince is freaking out because it's "The Wildest Thing he's ever seen in his life." and Bruno is like "That's Terry Funk for you," like this is a regular occurrence for him (Before you ask "For who, Bruno or Funk", The answer is yes).

Fuck it, I'll post it again. It's never NOT entertaining.

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[rez]

I still remember an already old Terry Funk during his run in WCW around 2000-01. He would come hobbling out to the ring and I would always be like "man this dude is too old now, its time to hang it up" and then he would still out wrestle damn near everyone around him. Has there ever been anyone else with the longevity he has had?

iirc he'd be swimming in his own blood like every week

[Bad News Gertner]

I feel like I have to bring up the match he had one time in WWF. I posted it before in the "Memorable Jobber Matches" thread. In essence, Terry Funk beats up a ring attendant for putting on his hat, then beats up the jobber. He takes a huge bump over the top rope that the crowd goes wild for. Vince is freaking out because it's "The Wildest Thing he's ever seen in his life." and Bruno is like "That's Terry Funk for you," like this is a regular occurrence for him (Before you ask "For who, Bruno or Funk", The answer is yes).

Fuck it, I'll post it again. It's never NOT entertaining.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hBZjbkl6Vug" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Only Terry Funk could lose to Moondog Spot in the first round of the Wrestling Classic Tournament and probably come out of it looking great

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OnThisDay?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OnThisDay</a> in 1985: WWF The Wrestling Classic PPV: First Round: Moondog Spot defeated Terry Funk by countout in 17 seconds. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TerryTuesday?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TerryTuesday</a> <a href="https://t.co/hynBjvjLEU">pic.twitter.com/hynBjvjLEU</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/927868207100235776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

Bryan Alvarez said that Omega was "furious" backstage at the shitty explosion

Feel like Tony Khan was making it seem like the weak explosion was basically what they planned (other than maybe syncing all the pyro and stuff better) with him saying "I don't know what people wanted" and "there's only so much you can do" and stuff

[erickman]

Bryan Alvarez said that Omega was "furious" backstage at the shitty explosion

Feel like Tony Khan was making it seem like the weak explosion was basically what they planned (other than maybe syncing all the pyro and stuff better) with him saying "I don't know what people wanted" and "there's only so much you can do" and stuff

why did they not test it out days before the show to see what the explosion would lool like?

[IC Champion]

Did you see that explosion? There’s no way they could possibly afford to do a test run. That was like 5 k worth of pyro. Easy.

[Destor]

why did they not test it out days before the show to see what the explosion would lool like? cost most likely. stuff is very expensive.

i agree with you, and that's a valid criticism, but im sure thats why. there should have been a run done earlier on the day of.

the worst part of this is the humiliation of the talent. they did their jobs right. no one missed a cue. theyre stuck with their dicks in their hands looking like schmucks.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bryan Alvarez said that Omega was "furious" backstage at the shitty explosion

Feel like Tony Khan was making it seem like the weak explosion was basically what they planned (other than maybe syncing all the pyro and stuff better) with him saying "I don't know what people wanted" and "there's only so much you can do" and stuff

I don't blame Omega for being furious nor anyone else who was involved on-screen in that debacle.

Khan giving that excuse felt more like him taking what Moxley said post-show to the crowd and running with it as the official storyline excuse going forward. He did also mention that they did rehearsals with their explosions beforehand so something went terribly wrong with last night's setup when it got put together.

[Bad News Gertner]

I've never really seen it look good even when it goes right. It's a stupid concept. I don't get why this was brought back.

[Triple A]

why did they not test it out days before the show to see what the explosion would lool like?

He said they did do tests

The Onita and Funk match, everybody would watch that, and several barbed wire matches to get a feel for it. We did a lot of tests and safety precautions with the fire marshal and I think the story kind of gave us an out for the ring not completely exploding and killing both guys because at the end it was Kenny’s construction, this thing he built, and we saw him kind of build it crudely with a hammer. The construction of it was we were using barbed wire and had to take a lot of precautions and treat it with great care, and we had to do a lot of rehearsals with the explosions. But again, there’s only so much you can really do with explosions without really hurting people, so I think that’s why it was good to give us an out with the story when we didn’t actually explode the ring. Maybe Kenny’s craftsmanship as a bomb builder is not his forte, maybe he should stick to wrestling.

[Destor]

I've never really seen it look good even when it goes right. It's a stupid concept. I don't get why this was brought back. exactly one time. once youve seen it its whatever forever.



like any firework

[Sepholio]

You know what I'm tired of the whole pyro is super expensive argument. No tf it isn't. I put on a small fireworks display by myself at least once and usually twice a year. I'll usually spend somewhere in the 4-500 USD range. I can get WAAAAAAAAAAY more bang for that amount than everything they used last night for that exploding ring.

All they needed really were a few of those fire fountains or w/e they use for the ring posts for Kanes entrance, some really large fire crackers, the sparklers to go off simultaneously and whatever random firework replicates a flash bang lol. Have the ring rigged to collapse as well. Done. Cost should not even be the slightest issue for some like this, especially when you have Khan's money. They should be able to have tested this whole thing multiple times for maybe a couple grand.

[Volare]

Road to Double or Nothing starts, let's turn the page and bring this up as a lol when we need to.

[Destor]

pyro is insanely expensive. its not even remotely on par financially with buying over the counter fireworks and thats before you have to pay for all the safety personnel involved

[Destor]

but i def agree that if you arent going to go the extra mile you shouldnt try it

[Sepholio]

but the shit they are using isn't the huge commercial grade stuff. Look at it. It's sparklers.

[Sepholio]

I can buy everything they used at the fireworks store here pretty much. It's not that expensive for what they did. At all.

But true enough I am not including the cost of the safety shit they have to go through to do it.

[Destor]

but the shit they are using isn't the huge commercial grade stuff. Look at it. It's sparklers.
what went off was a garnish. the real show didnt detonate. purely speculation on my part but i imagine it wasnt a dud id wager it was the wiring wasnt done properly so it never got the cue do go boom.

[Destor]

but yeah as far as what actually went off...$20 at a random firework stand and youre set

[Destor]

i hope they get a refund :lol:

[Sepholio]

PS Safety regulations r 4 suckers. YOLO.

[Volare]

Seph you're awesome n all, but you go on ahead with that, I'mma smoke a bowl and watch you do it.

[Destor]

ive always wanted a 1 armed friend with heavy burn scars. itll accent my pirate halloween costume very well

[drave]

You know what I'm tired of the whole pyro is super expensive argument. No tf it isn't. I put on a small fireworks display by myself at least once and usually twice a year. I'll usually spend somewhere in the 4-500 USD range. I can get WAAAAAAAAAAY more bang for that amount than everything they used last night for that exploding ring.

All they needed really were a few of those fire fountains or w/e they use for the ring posts for Kanes entrance, some really large fire crackers, the sparklers to go off simultaneously and whatever random firework replicates a flash bang lol. Have the ring rigged to collapse as well. Done. Cost should not even be the slightest issue for some like this, especially when you have Khan's money. They should be able to have tested this whole thing multiple times for maybe a couple grand.




M80's in a bucket would have been louder. Dry ice in an empty 2 liter that has been capped and shook would have been louder.


You aren't wrong.

[rez]

They should contract the boom booms out to Rammstein's Till Lindemann

[drave]

No fucking shit right? Saw them headline a big "fest" here in the early 2000's. They are hands down, the best stage show I've seen live. Like, Slayer pouring buckets of fake blood and shit is cool, but not a fire-breathing mask and boots that are on fire, gonna throw my guitar on fire into the speaker and make it explode, cool. Also had a fake heart that was a signal flare inside of a suit for his first song. He ripped his "own heart" out during the opening song and kept singing while holding the fireball.

[Bad News Gertner]

exactly one time. once youve seen it its whatever forever.



like any firework

Yeah no kidding

I've just never got the point of it, even though Onita vs Funk was a tremendous match. The ring is completely intact. It's just a bunch of shit going off outside of the ring. What are the explosions supposed to do? It's not even a cool visual.

[Fignuts]

It looks great in Fire Pro.

[Destor]

figgy is right

[xrodmuc316]

If we are going to say AEW couldn't afford to test it or use more fireworks, I don't want anybody to try and say AEW is profitable again.

[xrodmuc316]

Aftermath of a non exploding non barb wire non death match:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Far from over... <a href="https://t.co/SkBCi0SPCK">https://t.co/SkBCi0SPCK</a> <a href="https://t.co/9kLNHfGjmP">pic.twitter.com/9kLNHfGjmP</a></p>&mdash; Drew McIntyre (@DMcIntyreWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMcIntyreWWE/status/1369142383321956353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Destor]

If we are going to say AEW couldn't afford to test it or use more fireworks, I don't want anybody to try and say AEW is profitable again.
wwf stopped using pyro because it was too expensive

[Volare]

Aftermath of a non exploding non barb wire non death match:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Far from over... <a href="https://t.co/SkBCi0SPCK">https://t.co/SkBCi0SPCK</a> <a href="https://t.co/9kLNHfGjmP">pic.twitter.com/9kLNHfGjmP</a></p>&mdash; Drew McIntyre (@DMcIntyreWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMcIntyreWWE/status/1369142383321956353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For what reason? They're gonna do it again, so this served no purpose, they do last nights match for the #1 contender at Fast Lane it's a instant classic. Instead it's wasted on RAW and they fucked their bodies up for nothing.

[xrodmuc316]

wwf stopped using pyro because it was too expensive

Like 3 years ago??? You are basing your argument on something WWE did away with in 2018, before AEW was even a thing, and actually , what is your argument anyway?

WWE has had pyro back for quite some time, at least since Smackdown on Fox started. They did stop during the pandemic, but once they had the Thunderdome setup they went right back to using it.

[xrodmuc316]

For what reason? They're gonna do it again, so this served no purpose, they do last nights match for the #1 contender at Fast Lane it's a instant classic. Instead it's wasted on RAW and they fucked their bodies up for nothing.

That is not what I am saying. The point is their backs look more beat up than the backs of guys falling into barb wire and explosives, which is ridiculous, and not just for the reasons you said.

[Nark Order]

For hating AEW, you sure post about them alot in threads specifically dedicated to AEW.

[xrodmuc316]

For hating AEW, you sure post about them alot in threads specifically dedicated to AEW.

Are you new? You are saying the same shit everybody else has already in the past.

Criticizing AEW does not mean I hate AEW. If you can't understand that, I wonder how you survive in the real world.

[Nark Order]

:roll:

[Destor]

your vitriol is clear evidence of your opinions. you might be the only one who isnt aware you hate them

[Nark Order]

He either hates it or wants non-stop attention for being a contrarian. Either way, not a fan.

[xrodmuc316]

your vitriol is clear evidence of your opinions. you might be the only one who isnt aware you hate them

Why don't you go ahead and read all my post in this thread and see how much I hate AEW. I know it's hard to remember posts from different pages and all, so maybe take some notes for your own benefit.

[#1-norm-fan]

Random thought process I had today:

I kept thinking about how the finish reminded me of early 90s WCW for some reason. It made me nostalgic and because of that, I liked it. Then I realized it was probably because Abdullah the Butcher getting electrocuted was such a lasting memory. Then I laughed and thought about how over the top that was.

... Then I realized that if those two explosions were reversed, it would have fit better for both situations.

[#1-norm-fan]

If we are going to say AEW couldn't afford to test it or use more fireworks, I don't want anybody to try and say AEW is profitable again.

wwf stopped using pyro because it was too expensive

Like 3 years ago??? You are basing your argument on something WWE did away with in 2018, before AEW was even a thing, and actually , what is your argument anyway?

He gave an example of a profitable wrestling company cutting the pyro budget. Proving that a company not splurging on pyro doesn’t mean they aren’t profitable.

[#1-norm-fan]

Are you new? You are saying the same shit everybody else has already in the past.

Criticizing AEW does not mean I hate AEW. If you can't understand that, I wonder how you survive in the real world.

I’ve seen Narc. He gets by on his looks.

[Destor]

Why don't you go ahead and read all my post in this thread and see how much I hate AEW. I know it's hard to remember posts from different pages and all, so maybe take some notes for your own benefit.
droford level of lack of selfawareness

[xrodmuc316]

Random thought process I had today:

I kept thinking about how the finish reminded me of early 90s WCW for some reason. It made me nostalgic and because of that, I liked it. Then I realized it was probably because Abdullah the Butcher getting electrocuted was such a lasting memory. Then I laughed and thought about how over the top that was.

... Then I realized that if those two explosions were reversed, it would have fit better for both situations.

Remember how the switch fell down by itself, then they had to flip it back up so they could push it down again, classic!

[Vastardikai]

That Halloween Havoc was a shit show. It featured Michael Hayes faking an injury to get out of jobbing to Van Hammer. Van Hammer almost killing the jobber who took Hayes' place. The Chamber of Horrors match itself. A very good Dustin vs. Austin match (so many of them were). The WCW Halloween Phantom, complete with the identity getting spoiled by Schiavone. The amazing Paul E. promo that formally revealed the Phantom.

And, craziest of all, Bobby Eaton implying that he was going to fuck a pumpkin.

[#1-norm-fan]

This is the meme I needed

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[#1-norm-fan]

That Halloween Havoc was a shit show. It featured Michael Hayes faking an injury to get out of jobbing to Van Hammer. Van Hammer almost killing the jobber who took Hayes' place. The Chamber of Horrors match itself. A very good Dustin vs. Austin match (so many of them were). The WCW Halloween Phantom, complete with the identity getting spoiled by Schiavone. The amazing Paul E. promo that formally revealed the Phantom.

And, craziest of all, Bobby Eaton implying that he was going to fuck a pumpkin.

And I’d take it over any PPV over the past decade+.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I just looked up twitter...where?

Sean Ross Sapp is sharing it. Turns out it was a quote from Tony Khan and not the stupid cunt on Twitter himself. Whoops. Almost as bad an AEW botch.

lol Tony hasn't tweeted since last night. Noid is full of shit.

I want an apology from you, my bitch. You know who is full of shit? AEW.

[Wehttam]

cringe

[Nark Order]

Sean Ross Sapp is sharing it. Turns out it was a quote from Tony Khan and not the stupid cunt on Twitter himself. Whoops. Almost as bad an AEW botch.



I want an apology from you, my bitch. You know who is full of shit? AEW.

After like 20 years on this site, this is your gimmick now? This is a weird transition.

[screech]

hey cool, Noid (like his puppet, xrod) also thinks I actually read his posts

[screech]

That Halloween Havoc was a shit show. It featured Michael Hayes faking an injury to get out of jobbing to Van Hammer. Van Hammer almost killing the jobber who took Hayes' place. The Chamber of Horrors match itself. A very good Dustin vs. Austin match (so many of them were). The WCW Halloween Phantom, complete with the identity getting spoiled by Schiavone. The amazing Paul E. promo that formally revealed the Phantom.

And, craziest of all, Bobby Eaton implying that he was going to fuck a pumpkin.

And I’d take it over any PPV over the past decade+.

I don't think I've ever seen this show, so it's on my list for this week.

[GD]

22 pages for a PPV? That's some weak shit :o

[Sting Fan]

After like 20 years on this site, this is your gimmick now? This is a weird transition.

Right???

[Mr. Nerfect]

hey cool, Noid (like his puppet, xrod) also thinks I actually read his posts

I couldn’t give the smallest fuck if you read my posts or not. What matters is that you said I’m full of shit, but I was fucking right, like I have been from the start. So confident that Tony wouldn’t say anything so stupid right after too. Tsk, tsk.

[Mr. Nerfect]

After like 20 years on this site, this is your gimmick now? This is a weird transition.

Speaking the truth is not really a gimmick.

[Volare]

Sorry buddy....couldn't get this out of my head with that.

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[Fignuts]

Noid isn't wrong that Tony Khan's Twitter account is a detriment to AEW

[Jordan]

He comes off so "pleasing" and yet also so "desirous of praise". Definitely the type of guy to read his own reviews. There is a huge difference between him and Vince, I wish he would grow to be a little more like him in some aspects but also keep his markish fandom in others. I guess like Gedo.

[Nark Order]

Speaking the truth is not really a gimmick.

You'll never hear me say that AEW is immune to being criticized, there's definitely elements that they should steer in a better direction. That being said, your staunch commitment to hating on them at every given opportunity is truly bizarre. Like, for real.

[Nark Order]

Like, it's almost sexual in nature.

[Wehttam]

gotta get off somehow

[xrodmuc316]

You'll never hear me say that AEW is immune to being criticized, there's definitely elements that they should steer in a better direction. That being said, your staunch commitment to hating on them at every given opportunity is truly bizarre. Like, for real.

So you are saying it is ok for you to criticize something AEW does that you don't like, but if somebody else criticizes something AEW does that they don't like but you yourself do like, then that is hating on AEW for no reason?

And you wonder why you get eye rolls :roll:

[Nark Order]

So you are saying it is ok for you to criticize something AEW does that you don't like, but if somebody else criticizes something AEW does that they don't like but you yourself do like, then that are hating on AEW for no reason?

And you wonder why you get the rolls :roll:

I have never once wondered why I get the rolls.

And no, I do not just indiscriminately throw around the label of "AEW hater." There have been plenty of people that have criticized the product that are active posters in this community that are just sharing a well thought opinion. Then there are a few here that just hate them no matter what they do, troll every single AEW thread with negativity, and just generally use this forum as a way to get attention for being a contrarian dickhead. If you truly don't like the product, why spend so much time writing novels about your hatred? It comes across as narcissistic and hacky.

For example, I don't really watch WWE much anymore. I don't have Ill will towards it, I'm just not super interested anymore. You will not see me in WWE threads shitting on everything they ever do because I don't care enough to do that. I don't understand the mindset of not liking a company and keeping track and commenting on every thing they ever do. It's bizarre behavior.

[GD]

I find it hilarious that Noid doesn't even watch AEW programming and forms his opinions via reading results and watching clips.

[GD]

If your intent is to "troll" folks on a forum for enjoying something, you need to do some introspection and check your priorities. I understand being disgruntled, you just come across as dense.

[Fignuts]

Narc you are having the exact same conversation that a dozen other posters have had with xrod. Hes either feigning ignorance for laughs, or he genuinely does not get the difference between the genuine criticism people here have had with AEW, and his own.

[drave]

#1 Fan has proven the latter to be true, multiple times.

[Jordan]

On Noid...

It's whatever. He doesn't like AEW, it really doesn't matter of he does or not. I think he's very frustrated with Wrestling j general which I totally understand, and specifically with AEW because his hope for something that would satisfy him here shattered early on.

I also have some major issues with the state of pro wrestling. For me the major problem is the PWG style influence which is a double edged sword for me. One side super cool and fun and the other super fake and inconsistent. However I was really pleased with the majority of this week's Dynamite except the women and headed to St. Patrick's Day Slam I'm definitely into it. I will say I have no interest in watching Dark: Elevation though based on the matches announced.

Xrod at least does continue to watch AEW which I didn't realize until recently so I actually appreciate his point of view because it's at least fair. Ultimately I just want to say don't engage in a conversation that is going to derail a topic. This page is actually a lot better when we have actual debates and don't get into personal attacks.

[GD]

AEW do need to step up their presentation in terms of audio, camera cuts, blocking and branding. A lot of it comes across as subpar when compared to WWE or even TNA Impact from the mid ‘00s.

[Volare]

This page is actually a lot better when we have actual debates and don't get into personal attacks.

[drave]

AEW do need to step up their presentation in terms of audio, camera cuts, blocking and branding. A lot of it comes across as subpar when compared to WWE or even TNA Impact from the mid ‘00s.




This is their biggest, glaring flaw. Reminds me almost exactly of WCW.

[Bad News Gertner]

Hehe

[Mr. Nerfect]

They’ve taken the worst parts of WCW, TNA, ECW, PWG and the WWE and rolled it into this weird wannabe hybrid.

Take even just the MJF segment this week:

WCW: The story doesn’t make sense. Why did MJF join the Inner Circle when he just wanted his own group all along.

TNA: So much going on and it all looked so silly. Lots of of WWE rejects flopping around.

ECW: The lights off/lights on trope — WHICH MAKES NO SENSE!!!

PWG: The self-indulgent nature of it, the crowd marking out to see themselves marking out.

WWE: “The Chairman” Shawn Spears taking it to Sammy Guevara! The commentary is so fucking awful.

That’s just one segment, and it was possibly one of the best ones on the show.

[Nark Order]

I don't know, I can't really buy the "WWE Reject" thing. I suppose if their entire roster was only that, that would be a little lame. The idea that if someone worked for WWE that they can never work for another televised wrestling show, that's silly. Thwre's only like 4 or 5 "non-indie" promotions thay aren't WWE, the guys thay want at least some sort of exposure/pay are going to go to one of them. I kind of look at AEW like it's if NJPW, AAA, WWE, Impact, and the Indies all had an interconnected battleground. There's guys from everywhere.

[Nark Order]

TNA was probably the most egregious with that. At one point their entire roster was mostly old WCW/WWE guys and they weren't pushing their home grown guys much at all. So far AEW is not that and let's hope it never becomes that. Seems like probably not from the mix of talent they have.

[xrodmuc316]

Narc you are having the exact same conversation that a dozen other posters have had with xrod. Hes either feigning ignorance for laughs, or he genuinely does not get the difference between the genuine criticism people here have had with AEW, and his own.

It's real critism, I've never said something AEW did was bad but really secretly liked it.

But yes, people get worked up over nothing.

Look at Slik over in the ratings thread. Despite him being one of the best posters here, I made a comment that Dynamite couldn't even get a Million rating with Shaq and Big Show because it's funny.

Slik deleted my comment and locked the thread. That is not a logical response to somebody joking about AEW missing 1 million viewers by 26,000 people.

It's just easier to say somebody is "trolling" when they have a different view instead of trying to have an actual discussion. Do I get bored and lean into being a little extra, guilty. Do I get annoyed and a little less fun once in a while, also yes.

None of that changes the actual issue that if I say something negative about AEW, it's because I didn't like something they did, and if I joke about something AEW did, it's because I thought it was funny. There is no reason for anybody to get as upset as they do.

P.S., glad you are back Figgy, wasn't the same during your absence.

[Volare]

xrod 4k posts...knew figgy was back 50k posts....hmmmmmmm.....

[xrodmuc316]

xrod 4k posts...knew figgy was back 50k posts....hmmmmmmm.....

I have no idea what you are trying to convey.

[GD]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

[GD]

Also, Jim Ross needs to get off commentary. I cannot tell you how many times he has sucked the joy out of anything cool that’s happening.

[GD]

I don’t expect Ross to be aware of Christian’s music but JFC his blabbering on Dynamite was atrocious. Not Todd Grisham level bad but still horrendous.

[Nark Order]

It's real critism, I've never said something AEW did was bad but really secretly liked it.

But yes, people get worked up over nothing.

Look at Slik over in the ratings thread. Despite him being one of the best posters here, I made a comment that Dynamite couldn't even get a Million rating with Shaq and Big Show because it's funny.

Slik deleted my comment and locked the thread. That is not a logical response to somebody joking about AEW missing 1 million viewers by 26,000 people.

It's just easier to say somebody is "trolling" when they have a different view instead of trying to have an actual discussion. Do I get bored and lean into being a little extra, guilty. Do I get annoyed and a little less fun once in a while, also yes.

None of that changes the actual issue that if I say something negative about AEW, it's because I didn't like something they did, and if I joke about something AEW did, it's because I thought it was funny. There is no reason for anybody to get as upset as they do.

P.S., glad you are back Figgy, wasn't the same during your absence.

No, I want to be clear. I don't just randomly go around accusing posters of trolling. I'm doing it here because there's not much other of an explanation for why you're doing this. I had to go 8 pages into your post history to find posts that weren't about AEW. That was the Elimination Chamber PPV. But before that it goes on for several more pages in a row as well. You have a promotion that you don't like and you talk about it on a message board almost exclusively and are a negative shit rag about it 90% of the time. What would you call that? I would either call it trolling or mining for attention. It's really odd behavior.

[Nark Order]

It's just easier to say somebody is "trolling" when they have a different view instead of trying to have an actual discussion. Do I get bored and lean into being a little extra, guilty. Do I get annoyed and a little less fun once in a while, also yes.

Pretty sure you just described like 2 of the 3 elements of trolling.

Trolling is essentially:

Being "over the top"
Taking the fun out of everything
Trying to elicit a negative reaction

I find you guilty of 3rd degree trolling in forum court.

[Nark Order]

Now stop being a huge cunt waffle and just be a contributing member of the community.

[screech]

You have a promotion that you don't like and you talk about it on a message board almost exclusively and are a negative shit rag about it 90% of the time. What would you call that? I would either call it trolling or mining for attention. It's really odd behavior.

"But I watch AEW so OBVIOUSLY I don't hate it! :roll: :rofl:"

[screech]

Now stop being a huge cunt waffle and just be a contributing member of the community.

Motion to have this pop up as a message on the main page somewhere.

[Volare]

I have no idea what you are trying to convey.

How you know Figgy from "way back" when your account is new here.....nothing more sir.

[drave]

just a TPWW Observation

[Jordan]

Are you saying Xrod could be Kane Knight?

[Volare]

Not adding anymore speculation. Just seemed odd.

[Nark Order]

Does xrod have a sexual fetish involving strawmen?

[drave]

Does xrod have a sexual fetish involving Strowmen?

[Lock Jaw]

Bronk Strawman

[Nark Order]

Listen, this forum has a wild wild west nature to it and banning isn't an option, nor would I propose it. But the free market solution to these dishonest wrestling forum actors would be the create a wrestling forum dunce/shame list. Unfortunately we might have to treat them like children for a bit.

[Wehttam]

what will you be making them for lunch?

[Nark Order]

Well, I guess that would depend on whether they clean their room or not, wouldn't it?

[GD]

The issue is you’ll have to be as persistent as them. Most of us are past that point and have accepted our fates.

[GD]

Also, Jim Ross needs to get off commentary. I cannot tell you how many times he has sucked the joy out of anything cool that’s happening.

I don’t expect Ross to be aware of Christian’s music but JFC his blabbering on Dynamite was atrocious. Not Todd Grisham level bad but still horrendous.

Personally, Michael Coke is much bearable than AEW Jim Ross.

[Volare]

Michael Coke....hmmmmmm.

[Volare]

Would've gotten way more over with that name.

[screech]

I know JR isn't great right now, but to me Cole is at the bottom. It's not all his fault [since he has to read a bunch of shitty buzzwords/phrases] but he sounds like he's been phoning it in for years.

[screech]

Also yes, Michael Coke would be more over.

But would he suck any less?

[screech]

That's unfair. He's had the job for decades so he's doing something right. He just isn't for me.

[Wehttam]

Well, I guess that would depend on whether they clean their room or not, wouldn't it?

now you're just asking too much

[screech]

Listen, this forum has a wild wild west nature to it and banning isn't an option, nor would I propose it. But the free market solution to these dishonest wrestling forum actors would be the create a wrestling forum dunce/shame list. Unfortunately we might have to treat them like children for a bit.

Pretty sure I nominated that the Forum Dunce Award be renamed for xrod.

I definitely thought about making that post, anyway.

[GD]

That's unfair. He's had the job for decades so he's doing something right. He just isn't for me.

Sx1PhviIAt4

[screech]

Top 3 Coke moment

[Volare]

Coke can do whatever....the faaak...he pleeeeses.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BabyishDelayedBasilisk-size_restricted.gif

[erickman]

jr would do alot better if they would let him move to impact and call matches with matt striker. since the shows are taped he would have less screw ups

[slik]

I don't think xrod is Kane Knight...I disagree w/ xrod on a many things and he calls me names sometimes, probably more often than I'm aware since I have him on ignore and rarely read his posts...but he's not totally unlikable and pretentious like Kane Knight.


Kane Knight is literally the only poster I'd be fine with never seeing another post from ever again.

[xrodmuc316]

How you know Figgy from "way back" when your account is new here.....nothing more sir.

That is a really bad interpretation of what I said.

1. I said I was glad he is back posting, after his battle with Covid. Nothing about knowing him from way back or "was back" as your initial post

2. You know post count does not mean join date, join date means join date. Not here quite as long as you, but join date for me is 2010.

[Evil Vito]

If X-Rod were Kane Knight he'd have a LOT more than 4,000 posts in 11 years.

[screech]

Would xrod do Tech Support on a Case by Case Basis?

[xrodmuc316]

No, I want to be clear. I don't just randomly go around accusing posters of trolling. I'm doing it here because there's not much other of an explanation for why you're doing this. I had to go 8 pages into your post history to find posts that weren't about AEW. That was the Elimination Chamber PPV. But before that it goes on for several more pages in a row as well. You have a promotion that you don't like and you talk about it on a message board almost exclusively and are a negative shit rag about it 90% of the time. What would you call that? I would either call it trolling or mining for attention. It's really odd behavior.

So, you don't know how to use the search function, let me help you.

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost.php?p=5434771&postcount=179

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost.php?p=5434235&postcount=185

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost.php?p=5434234&postcount=2

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost.php?p=5433722&postcount=558

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showpost.php?p=5434128&postcount=99

That's 5 right there in the last 3 days. Elimination Chamber was almost 3 WEEKS ago. Pay better attention.

[Nark Order]

Xrod, look at your last like 8 to 9 pages of your posts and tell me the the spirit of what I'm saying isn't correct. It is like 90% AEW stuff. Not that you litigating isn't hilarious, but come on. That right here is a troll post, honestly. You're ignoring the broader point, which is absolutely true, because my statement was technically off by 5 posts. That's a pretty troll stance.

[drave]

Ooh, I've seen this one before!

[Volare]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/4765fec13f4823254d87ef4bda3aa565/tenor.gif?itemid=5837190

[Wehttam]

Xrod, look at your last like 8 to 9 pages of your posts and tell me the the spirit of what I'm saying isn't correct. It is like 90% AEW stuff. Not that you litigating isn't hilarious, but come on. That right here is a troll post, honestly. You're ignoring the broader point, which is absolutely true, because my statement was technically off by 5 posts. That's a pretty troll stance.look, you're trying. i know you are. a few have. it isn't going to change much. the current question is:

do you think he is playing up his lack of understanding? or is it more a problem of ignorance/stupidity?

[Nark Order]

This is a mistake I often make when talking to people on the internet. If I was caught being logically inconsistent in an argument, it would keep me up at night. The mistake is that I assume this of others as well when many other people give zero fucks about even making sense.

[Wehttam]

they think they do

[xrodmuc316]

Xrod, look at your last like 8 to 9 pages of your posts and tell me the the spirit of what I'm saying isn't correct. It is like 90% AEW stuff. Not that you litigating isn't hilarious, but come on. That right here is a troll post, honestly. You're ignoring the broader point, which is absolutely true, because my statement was technically off by 5 posts. That's a pretty troll stance.

So you said something incorrect, I correct you, and you say "you know what I mean"??? :D

[IC Champion]

This is a mistake I often make when talking to people on the internet. If I was caught being logically inconsistent in an argument, it would keep me up at night. The mistake is that I assume this of others as well when many other people give zero fucks about even making sense.

I wonder what else keeps Narc Up at night? I bet he really hates when people say “irregardless”.

[drave]

and "I could care less"