AEW All Out 2022 / CM Punk Fallout

[Frank Drebin]

Here we are on the outside. Mox will be bleeding any minute.

[rez]

I dig it when he wears the long tights. special occasions

[rez]

plus they look fire

[Frank Drebin]

Ok its punk bleeding and not Mox. Huge twist.

[Evil Vito]

Punk bleeding before Mox! I would have lost money on that one

[Jordan]

BLOOD MATCH finally!

[Frank Drebin]

Mox trying to get a "you sick fuck" chant going like its the CZW scene in The Wrestler.

[Jordan]

Punk's tights are great.

[Frank Drebin]

Glad the crowd is doing what they were supposed to do and being mostly pro-punk.

[Evil Vito]

Reportedly Jade/Athena and Starks/Hobbs were both allotted more time and the performers decided to go home early.

This extra time was supposedly then given to the tag title match.

[Frank Drebin]

Storm zero!!

[Frank Drebin]

Just waiting for this to end in a wet fart and the crowd totally deflated.

[Jordan]

This match is fantastic. My favorite Punk match in AEW so far.

[Frank Drebin]

Thank God. Still makes the Dynamite a total head scratcher.

[Evil Vito]

That was a great main

[Jordan]

Fucking awesome match, great stuff. Mox is my hero, my favorite wrestler. Punk is an amazing punching bag and was honestly completely flawless in this match. Really fucking great stuff, right up my alley for sure. That was a great main event for a really tough show to follow.

[Frank Drebin]

MJF??????

[Frank Drebin]

Yes!!!! Thank fn god

[rez]

damn good match

[Evil Vito]

And we're now right back to Punk/MJF for the belt which was the plan after the pipebomb, but Punk got hurt a segment earlier

Good shit

[Lock Jaw]

Turned on the last 15 minutes of this show just because....

I know most will disagree with me, but feel like blood is not necessary at all in this day and age and actually makes things worse.....

Was ok, not as good as Roman/Drew last night, though I guess I didn't see all of this one so that's not fair.

Seems "weird" to have Punk do a fake injury and get squashed for the title to come back here and be presented as super tough and super resilient and win back the title...... seems like there are better ways to build heat for your match.....

[Evil Vito]

Please do this match at Grand Slam. I wanna see that shit live.

[Lock Jaw]

Didn't see MJF cause the stream died right after the win and I didn't care to try to reload it....

[Frank Drebin]

And we're now right back to Punk/MJF for the belt which was the plan after the pipebomb, but Punk got hurt a segment earlier

Good shit

Yup. Too bad we had to sit through 4 months of garbage to get here. Got to have a plan B. Tony.

[slik]

Great match between Punk and Moxley, glad to have MJF back

[slik]

Punk's tights are great.

I liked the duality with Mox in all black and Punk in all white

[DaveWadding]

No Adam Cole tonight was a refreshing change

[Frank Drebin]

MJF being behind Stokely also a great move. Gives all those nobody's purpose and not just a random jobber stable like Lethal or Hardy family office.

[Lock Jaw]

What song did Mox sing after the match

[rez]

MJF being behind Stokely also a great move. Gives all those nobody's purpose and not just a random jobber stable like Lethal or Hardy family office.

and Hager

[rez]

7/10 PPV. 5 hours with the pre show.

I'll probably wait to watch House of the Dragon until tomorrow. Might catch up on Big Brother now.

[Evil Vito]

Assuming Punk/MJF is at Grand Slam, it'll be fascinating to see how it plays out. MJF will have the momentum after the return if they wanted to strike while the iron is hot, but Punk is on the precipice of a heel turn and would certainly get booed if he were to cheat to beat MJF in New York.

Should be fun.

[#1-norm-fan]

I’m actually surprised they kept the main show under 4 hours. That seems out of the ordinary nowadays. Lol

[Jordan]

Overall there were some matches that just shouldn't have been on the show. They should do some kind of two hour rampage the day before with a bunch of matches that are great and all just "cant make the show". For example, the Women's 4-Way, the trio's with House of Black, Sting, Miro & Darby.

I feel like Starks and Hobbs wasn't as good as I'd hoped it would be, but am hopeful for a gimmick rematch that will deliver.

Danielson/Jericho I'm sure was good but I got so bored with it. I think it probably should have kicked off the show, or come after the ladder match.

Overall the match of the night for me was Punk/Jericho, but also the Trio's Championship was brilliant and the Kingston/Ishii match as well was about as good as it gets.

The Kip Sabian vs PAC match was really good too, much better than I'd ever have expected.

The Tag title match was also very good, the crowd was great, but had the wrong winners. Boo.

Jade and Athena was actually really good and probably the horniest match of the evening. I mean I was really wanting to fuck when I was watching that one. But still it was a good match too! cool.

[Jordan]

No Adam Cole tonight was a refreshing change

Hoping that he was the one who got let out of his contract so he can go back to working with HBK and HHH.

[rez]

I would be curious to see if AEW could sell out'ish Allegiant instead of T-Mobile in Vegas next year for Double or Nothing.

[Jordan]

The pre show was so fucking good that's one thing that adds to the length of the PPV. We really don't need "everyone" on the PPV's. They need to ROH up and running.

[Jordan]

I would be curious to see if AEW could sell out'ish Allegiant instead of T-Mobile in Vegas next year for Double or Nothing.

I don't think so, I wouldn't "bet on it".

[rez]

Hoping that he was the one who got let out of his contract so he can go back to working with HBK and HHH.

Bobby Fish was one, ya? who else was confirmed to not get their contract renewed?

[Jordan]

Which show was better Clash at the Castle or All Out? Probably Clash at the Castle, but then again maybe All Out. They are both really great shows.

[rez]

some home grown talent won...lotta wwe people matches. but all in all i liked the show

[rez]

home grown faces versus wwe/impact special dynamite could be interesting

[xrodmuc316]

Reading the results, yikes at some of these decisions.

Not just job House of Black to a thrown together trio team, but actually had the leader take the fall?
Sounds live the crowd shit all over Acclaimed not winning.
They booked fucking Wardlow in a 16 minute match??? His entire gimmick is he just destroys everybody quickly, but yeah, 16 minutes here lol
Another babyface interim champ while the babyface champ is out?
They spent all this time building up Jungleboy vs Christian just to do another Luchasaurus swerve turn? That is some Vince Russo booking.
They didn't though think of any swerve whatsoever for the result everybody saw coming from 200 miles away, Elite just goes over clean to win Trios belts?
How does Chris Jericho changing the color of his trunks equate to him beating Bryan Danielson?
Not just tonight, but Bryan has been booked so badly from the start, I just dont get what they are going for with him.
They had the Masked Singer be MJF, make his surprise reveal, but they DIDN'T have him cash in his chip?
Did MJF not just form a new faction, why not at least do a beatdown?

Just seems odd all around.

[rez]

Reading the results, yikes at some of these decisions.

Not just job House of Black to a thrown together trio team, but actually had the leader take the fall?
Sounds live the crowd shit all over Acclaimed not winning.
They booked fucking Wardlow in a 16 minute match??? His entire gimmick is he just destroys everybody quickly, but yeah, 16 minutes here lol
Another babyface interim champ while the babyface champ is out?
They spent all this time building up Jungleboy vs Christian just to do another Luchasaurus swerve turn? That is some Vince Russo booking.
They didn't though think of any swerve whatsoever for the result everybody saw coming from 200 miles away, Elite just goes over clean to win Trios belts?
How does Chris Jericho changing the color of his trunks equate to him beating Bryan Danielson?
Not just tonight, but Bryan has been booked so badly from the start, I just dont get what they are going for with him.
They had the Masked Singer be MJF, make his surprise reveal, but they DIDN'T have him cash in his chip?
Did MJF not just form a new faction, why not at least do a beatdown?

Just seems odd all around.

k, noid junior

[slik]

Main Event and MJF were so well done I'm now looking forward to Dynamite when I was getting real close to taking a break-e-w

[xrodmuc316]

k, noid junior

Settle down, #2Fan

[rez]

Settle down, #2Fan

I used to like your takes but you just have become stale. :-\

[slik]

Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CM Punk on the media scrum SHOOTING on the AEW EVPs and Hangman Page for &quot;leaking out bullshit&quot; to the media that isn't true.<br><br>What the FUCK is going on. <a href="https://t.co/5pWu6YK30h">pic.twitter.com/5pWu6YK30h</a></p>&mdash; DRAIN is All Out ٠�� (@DrainBamager) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrainBamager/status/1566644679311228930?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

Punk still going off

He does not seem to like ANY of the EVPs or the Elite 'irl' at all

[rez]

drama sells

[slik]

Damn

Punk just trashed Bryan Alvarez to his face lol

[Frank Drebin]

Wow. So much for AEW turning the page on a tumultuous time for the company.

[rez]

Tony lets storylines go a few months more than they need to. That being said...love the reactions from sites like wrestlinginc

[rez]

why not have fake(or sorta real) heat on the EVPs?

[rez]

the podcasts will sell all of this. the noids and noid jr will eat it up. the marks and the tpww forums, too.

[xrodmuc316]

Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CM Punk on the media scrum SHOOTING on the AEW EVPs and Hangman Page for &quot;leaking out bullshit&quot; to the media that isn't true.<br><br>What the FUCK is going on. <a href="https://t.co/5pWu6YK30h">pic.twitter.com/5pWu6YK30h</a></p>&mdash; DRAIN is All Out ٠�� (@DrainBamager) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrainBamager/status/1566644679311228930?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He clearly cares nothing about "Scott Colton".

[rez]

10/10 social media and self awareness AEW.

[rez]

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[rez]

Flair, Bischoff, DDP, etc. all have a vested interest in AEW succeeding no matter the negativity in pods.

[Triple A]

Tag team title match was amazing, my fav on the show. So good...

Trios title match was #2, and main event was #3

Yes @ MJF...

[Triple A]

Was worried CM Punk injured his elbow or bicep in the match, he kept checking it like 987235 times... what if he won the title and it's revealed Wednesday that he has to be out for another few months...

[Triple A]

Kept imagining Jim Ross pissing himself and sitting there next to Excalibur in piss-soaked pants all night...

[rez]

Kept imagining Jim Ross pissing himself and sitting there next to Excalibur in piss-soaked pants all night...

throw all the money at mike tenay

[rez]

Donald Callis, Mike Tenay, and Tony Schiavone would be a dream team

[Triple A]

Piss running down his leg onto the floor and over to where Excalibur was sitting...

[xrodmuc316]

Ok, I kept watching the presser, minus the angry rant parts because whatever it is what it is, that is the best/most genuine interview Punk has given in years. Real passion, not the happy to be here act, but actual "ill carry this place".

Fuck that was good. I did not expect that.

[Fignuts]

JR peed on Assman

[#1-norm-fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The devil �� is home <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWallout?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWallout</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJF?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJF</a> <a href="https://t.co/1WAonCfW2T">pic.twitter.com/1WAonCfW2T</a></p>&mdash; La Fiera De Stakitas (@j23ramirez) <a href="https://twitter.com/j23ramirez/status/1566640104268894208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn. Playing the voicemail… The fact that MJF did the bare minimum to hold up his end of the bargain by showing while also taking the #1 contendership… I love it.

[slik]

Tony is legit an awkward person when he is the only one talking during the media scrum

[Triple A]

MJF so incredible... creativity of his storylines like "miles ahead" of everything else

He's the AEW MVP imo... excited 2 have him back

[slik]

That media scrum was fascinating in general, felt like a quasi-documentary at times

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All I can say is that during the media scrum. We all saw a security guy run out the door. <a href="https://t.co/YrRKOT7HBt">https://t.co/YrRKOT7HBt</a></p>&mdash; Denise 'Hollywood Superstar' Salcedo (@_denisesalcedo) <a href="https://twitter.com/_denisesalcedo/status/1566661600265867264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

Will check it out now

<iframe width="1280" height="720" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yUGI7-9S4QE" title="CM Punk, Swerve in Our Glory, Toni Storm & Chris Jericho Comment | AEW All Out Media Scrum | 9/4/22" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Triple A]

CM Punk eating food while talking during this entire thing...

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OK. IF, and that's a big IF, the CM Punk/Hangman/EVP drama is a work, well done. Weird, but well done. If not, yikes. This is something that will be looked into for YEARS. Right now, it is just pure chaos. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWAllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWAllOut</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Yanofsky (@DanYanofsky) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanYanofsky/status/1566661777110302725?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

Somehow with everything going on, Tony STILL delivered BIG in the media scrum!

https://i.imgflip.com/6s9xar.gif

He is so weird lol!

[ron the dial]

he keeps his eyes closed for soooooo long sometimes lol

[ron the dial]

cm punk is a stinky penis

[Frank Drebin]

Mindy's Bakery not terribly far from me. Should have gone there today and maybe I would have met Chick Magnet Punk. Missed it. Gonna go stick my head in my oven and put a sign on my back that says "no funeral".

[ron the dial]

WE ARE CHICAGOING TO KILL OURSELVES

[Danny Electric]

Will Jericho, the Elite or Sting ever lose.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Show sounds like the drizzlies. Lol at the drama surrounding the company. Don’t get the point of it being a work. I’m no more likely to spend a dollar on them (but I wasn’t going to anyway).

[BigCrippyZ]

In fairness, it seems like you probably only spend money on things that give you a really sad hand job.

[Mr. Nerfect]

In fairness, it seems like you probably only spend money on things that give you a really sad hand job.

Dude, not everybody cries through every sex act like they do with you. At least you weep more than they do, which helps them feel a bit better at the end of the day.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fightful reporting that The Bucks and Omega want to leave AEW now. Good work, bros!

I’ve got an idea — how about AEW just leaves itself? Close up shop, save everyone time.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

This is some saucy shit. Also, the Bucks and Omega are absolute turds.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Punk dragging the evp’s is kinda glorious, honestly. Tonight’s main event absolutely delivered. The convoluted path to get there could’ve been much better but damn the finale delivered.

[Evil Vito]

Punk’s press conference has arguably overshadowed MJF’s much-anticipated return. It’s intrigued the hell out of me, even though AEW seems like it might end up burning down from within along the way.

[Evil Vito]

Punk being a gigantic asshole in the press conference while Khan just sits there and does nothing because he’s a mark.

[Evil Vito]

Sell “MJF was right” shirts at Arthur Ashe. Easy money.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Vito--if the Bucks and Kenny are running around shitting all over Punk backstage, do you blame him for tearing those turds an asshole?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Because let's make no bones about it, those 3 are fucking shitheads. I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt, but this was all clearly their vanity project.

[Evil Vito]

Vito--if the Bucks and Kenny are running around shitting all over Punk backstage, do you blame him for tearing those turds an asshole?

Hey he’s free to take any shots he wants. But can easily see how this can be parlayed into the whole angle of “Punk is nothing but trouble” talking points that Kingston, Page, and MJF all brought up in their angles with him.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Oh for sure. He's a natural heel anyways. But the problem is between him and the Bucks, he's the face.

[Destor]

And the brightside of punk getting heated at half the lockerroom you dont have to worry about him picking a fight with any of them

[Evil Vito]

The funniest thing about Punk’s presser is that even as he went scorched earth on pretty much everyone, he went out of his way to praise Adam Cole who wasn’t even there.

Nobody in any company he’s worked for ever has a bad thing to say about Cole, yet he’s the one guy the fans clearly got sick of due to overexposure. Doesn’t help that he’s literally been the same character with the same mannerisms and zero changes since like 2013.

[Jordan]

Bunch of boardsters getting worked by the creative team at AEW!

CM Punk is soon gonna have FTR coming to his side on Twitter and then they will get their big Trio's Championship main event at Arthur Ashe. It's all a show you guys. Sure maybe someone wants to quit, somebody got punched backstage at some point, whatever it's wrestling.

[Jordan]

The funniest thing about Punk’s presser is that even as he went scorched earth on pretty much everyone, he went out of his way to praise Adam Cole who wasn’t even there.

Nobody in any company he’s worked for ever has a bad thing to say about Cole, yet he’s the one guy the fans clearly got sick of due to overexposure. Doesn’t help that he’s literally been the same character with the same mannerisms and zero changes since like 2013.

I really wish that Adam Cole could be reunited with his buddy Triple H and his dad HBK Shawn.

[Jordan]

It is very upsetting that Mox lost the strap. IDK where he goes from here!

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If this is a work, I'm okay with being worked. I'm not gonna try to understand wtf is going on in AEW right now and will just blankly assume this is an outright shoot.

[Jordan]

If this is a work, I'm okay with being worked. I'm not gonna try to understand wtf is going on in AEW right now and will just blankly assume this is an outright shoot.

Well when it ends up resulting in main event matches you'll know the truth!

[Evil Vito]

It is very upsetting that Mox lost the strap. IDK where he goes from here!

Riotous sex with Renee with at least one of them blading.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Well when it ends up resulting in main event matches you'll know the truth!

lol honestly it's just gonna make all the underneath guys realize they need to go on a shoot-rant to get booked higher up on the card.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">C.M. Punk at the all out press conference…<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ALLOUT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ALLOUT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CMPunk?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CMPunk</a> <a href="https://t.co/c1LR2cd5W4">pic.twitter.com/c1LR2cd5W4</a></p>&mdash; Simpsons wrestling memes (@SimpsonsWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/SimpsonsWWE/status/1566707245748047872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Evil Vito]

Unhappy in WWE because the boss was too controlling

Unhappy in AEW because the boss isn’t controlling enough

:lol: dudes gonna get booed out of the building on Wednesday

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I did like when Punk glared at Meltzer and was like "What did I do, DAVE?" since Dave is the biggest EVP shill around.

[Jordan]

It will be difficult in my opinion for MJF and Punk not to switch spots as top heel and babyface in the course of a feud. CM Punk when exposed will be seen for what he is, a toxic person. MJF will struggle to play heel, well maybe not struggle, the fans may struggle to accept him as a heel but he will likely find ways to make them cry on a weekly basis.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Punk can be toxic but he's also a great babyface.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

MJF also seems kind of toxic. But he's also a great heel.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I hardly see how Punk is the heel between him and the EVPs. I mean he's probably not the face but he's def not the heel.

[Evil Vito]

Well I think the main core of AEW's audience, particularly ones likely to shell out for tickets, are still firmly behind the EVPs since they are "neckbeards" or whatever, so to them Punk would be the heel

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I think they'll like whoever cuts the better face promos IMO. If Punk wants to cut face promos, they'll be on his side because he's much better on the mic than all of them.

[#1-norm-fan]

I just saw the clip so I don’t know if there was more said but… do we know exactly why he’s pissed at them other than a vague reference to them spreading rumors to the wrestling media?

[#1-norm-fan]

Either way, it feels like a good time to reiterate that The Young Bucks suck ass.

[Jordan]

No way #1-norm-fan! The Bucks of Youth are legends! That six man last night was a goddamn stunner. Eat chalk and drink old yogurt if that is what you really think.

[#1-norm-fan]

The Young Bucks are to wrestling what old yogurt is to wrestling.

[Evil Vito]

The funny thing about Punk blaming the EVPs over the Cabana stuff getting out is that SRS was the first guy to break the story about the locker room having the perception that Punk got him demoted....and he's flat out said the EVPs weren't his source for it.

[#1-norm-fan]

Just watching the full media scrum now. Punk’s reaction every time MJF is mentioned is great. This is where Tony’s awkwardness is a benefit. Lol

[Evil Vito]

AEW had the whole "big happy family" vibe from the beginning of the company right on through the Daily's Place residency. The fact that the entire company kept Brodie Lee's illness a secret right up into his passing was a hell of a statement. Even friggin' Cornette gave props to the company for that one since wrestlers are notorious for not being able to keep a secret.

But I don't know why parts of the AEW fanbase desperately cling to the idea that that's still the vibe and that everything is sunshine and rainbows. Between getting back on the road, expanding the roster, having a lot more personalities to manage and the fact that most of these guys have egos because, hello, it's wrestling...there were always going to be backstage problems eventually.

[Sepholio]

I think I'm pretty much done with AEW for awhile. The booking is insane. All the "works" and "shoots". It's just dumb at this point. Punk beating Mox was dumb. If that was the end game they should have just not had the first match.

Been so hyped for MJF to come back and the way they do it is the dumbest shit ever. Stokely and a bunch of jobbers come out and take the chip and hand it to masked man that is clearly MJF just so he can reveal himself later in the same show...but not actually do anything? There is no longer any edge to the angle, no wondering if MJF is legit pissed or not because he's wearing a mask, has a mouth piece he doesn't need, and a bunch of schmucks to tag along.

EVPs win again, shocker, everyone knew that was coming for over a year before these titles were even announced. Such good booking everyone saw it happening before there was any motion at all on the whole angle lol. And now what? Immediately into a hur dur work shoot program with Punk? I have no interest in watching that feud.

Danielson lost clean to Jericho. Does anything else even need to be said about that? I just can't.

[Jordan]

I think I'm pretty much done with AEW for awhile. The booking is insane. All the "works" and "shoots". It's just dumb at this point. Punk beating Mox was dumb. If that was the end game they should have just not had the first match.

Been so hyped for MJF to come back and the way they do it is the dumbest shit ever. Stokely and a bunch of jobbers come out and take the chip and hand it to masked man that is clearly MJF just so he can reveal himself later in the same show...but not actually do anything? There is no longer any edge to the angle, no wondering if MJF is legit pissed or not because he's wearing a mask, has a mouth piece he doesn't need, and a bunch of schmucks to tag along.

EVPs win again, shocker, everyone knew that was coming for over a year before these titles were even announced. Such good booking everyone saw it happening before there was any motion at all on the whole angle lol. And now what? Immediately into a hur dur work shoot program with Punk? I have no interest in watching that feud.

Danielson lost clean to Jericho. Does anything else even need to be said about that? I just can't.

Fine Seph. You can take that perspective and you can quit watching AEW, that's fine you don't have to tune in. But you will be missing out on all the action. Kenny and the Bucks are back together and they are now the champs, Adam Cole is injured and Punk bleed more than Mox and is now going to get his long deserved title reign.

It's time for people like you, Danielson, FTR and Cody to realize that the EVP's are the true heart and soul of AEW. The EVP's are The Bucks of Youth and Kenneth Omega. They are the energy source in which this world revolves around.

It's time for people like Seph and Danielson to realize the only reason AEW is in existence is because of Jericho and it's time that Danielson learned his place against Jericho and now stands below him on the rankings and in the annals of pro wrestling history with and 0-2 record.

[Jordan]

Seph I just ask that if you are really done with AEW and aren't going to watch it fine but can you at least just turn on one of your TV's to TBS when AEW comes on so that we don't lose your ratings! Thankyee! /Tony Khan and the AEW family and fans!

[Evil Vito]

I actually like MJF and Stoke together. They've worked together before and have a good dynamic. MJF can handle his own promos and doesn't need Stoke to talk for him, but I can definitely buy why MJF the character would hire an agent to deal with shit he doesn't feel like dealing with anymore.

Far less keen on the idea of him having another stable though. He already had one. Doesn't need another one.

Would prefer if Stoke just manages all of his clients separately and maybe this was the one and only time he "rallied the troops" together for a common goal. MJF doesn't need henchmen especially since the crowd will invariably be turning him face.

[#1-norm-fan]

The problem with worked shoots is usually they’re done by saying “All that other shit is fake wrestling bullshit but THIS is real!”

I don’t mind as long as it’s just building the idea that there’s real backstage tension. If/when these guys meet up, if you believe they actually don’t like each other, of course they’re not gonna convince you that THIS time the match is real but it adds another layer to the drama.

Just don’t go full Russo basically.

[Sepholio]

MJF does need the henchmen though because long term story telling in AEW has dictated that MJF can not win a match on his own.

[Sepholio]

And, you know, instead of building him up as a disgruntled employee with something to prove, they just hotshotted him right into the title picture.

I can't take that seriously. MJF has won like....1 match in the last year and a half maybe and it wasn't clean. He is not a credible challenger atm. Well, maybe he is credible considering who the champ is.

[Frank Drebin]

If anyone is on the fence about the Bucks being douchebags, tell me why they were spending this ppv winning the stupid fucking trios titles and not fighting FTR as AEW champs for all the gold.

[Jordan]

If anyone is on the fence about the Bucks being douchebags, tell me why they were spending this ppv winning the stupid fucking trios titles and not fighting FTR as AEW champs for all the gold.

FTR is going to spend a long time as big time tag champs before they have that showdown with The Bucks. It will happen. The Bucks are the best tag team in the world no doubt you're correct sir. But having them add Kenny to their matches will only make you and the others Buckamaniacs desire their return to tag's as their trio's run comes to an end at some point down the line in a year or so.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There’s a rumor going around that Punk dusted up both of The Bucks backstage and you can see it on their faces today. You can go on about Punk’s credibility, but what does it say about you if you and your brother get beaten up by him?

No benefit to this being a work. It doesn’t make any match more anticipated. As soon as they get in the ring in front of the camera, it all dissolves. The same with MJF. He’s just…back now. This is most likely just someone with a bit of sway calling the schemers out as their boss just sits there and nods along in agreement. The boss that gave them power in the first place.

[rez]

Fightful reporting that The Bucks and Omega want to leave AEW now. Good work, bros!

I’ve got an idea — how about AEW just leaves itself? Close up shop, save everyone time.

shut up, bitch. still have me on ignore?

[rez]

There’s a rumor going around that Punk dusted up both of The Bucks backstage and you can see it on their faces today. You can go on about Punk’s credibility, but what does it say about you if you and your brother get beaten up by him?

No benefit to this being a work. It doesn’t make any match more anticipated. As soon as they get in the ring in front of the camera, it all dissolves. The same with MJF. He’s just…back now. This is most likely just someone with a bit of sway calling the schemers out as their boss just sits there and nods along in agreement. The boss that gave them power in the first place.

no benefit to you even posting you sad waste of jorts and pudding. :roll:

[Maluco]

There is no way it is a work. He made Adam Page look like the stupidest, most naive dickhead in the locker room. No one is dumb enough to book something like that.

Punk would be doing the company a favor if he got rid of the Young Bucks. Everything about them is awful, and the EVPs clearly can’t take anyone coming in and being a bigger deal than they are.

Time to break them up and get in some proper bookers.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Everyone the crowd has gotten strongly behind has lost. Lulz.

The answer is long-term storytelling. To whatever the question is.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There is no way it is a work. He made Adam Page look like the stupidest, most naive dickhead in the locker room. No one is dumb enough to book something like that.

Punk would be doing the company a favor if he got rid of the Young Bucks. Everything about them is awful, and the EVPs clearly can’t take anyone coming in and being a bigger deal than they are.

Time to break them up and get in some proper bookers.

To be fair, Adam Page did that to himself. And to the company. Punk pointed out the obvious there. Adam Page is such a fucking idiot that you might as well release him. I wouldn’t want to work with him. Why make a guy like that look good when he’s going to go out there and basically admit he’s a giant douche?

It’s good to see the crows finally come home to roost for The Bucks and Omega. Fuck those guys. This isn’t new shit about them getting leaked. They clearly have no clue what they are doing in their roles either. What qualified them? It’s funny to see TK just nodding along as they get torn down.

But hey, I’m in camp “Fuck AEW” so I don’t mind seeing the thing burn. It’s what they sowed.

[IC Champion]

Just here to state the obvious and that Punk is a wrestling god.

[xrodmuc316]

There’s a rumor going around that Punk dusted up both of The Bucks backstage and you can see it on their faces today. You can go on about Punk’s credibility, but what does it say about you if you and your brother get beaten up by him?

No benefit to this being a work. It doesn’t make any match more anticipated. As soon as they get in the ring in front of the camera, it all dissolves. The same with MJF. He’s just…back now. This is most likely just someone with a bit of sway calling the schemers out as their boss just sits there and nods along in agreement. The boss that gave them power in the first place.

If anything SCREAMS work, it is the idea that Punk won 2 different fights, 1 against each Buck :lol:

[Gerard]

Somehow with everything going on, Tony STILL delivered BIG in the media scrum!

https://i.imgflip.com/6s9xar.gif

He is so weird lol!

Looks like he's chugging on a big ol cock then got a taste of a load in his mouth.

[#1-norm-fan]

I know this is an insane concept but I like when it seems like wrestlers actually hate each other and aren’t just “playing mean” with their BFF’s.

[IC Champion]

If anything SCREAMS work, it is the idea that Punk won 2 different fights, 1 against each Buck :lol:

I mean people like to joke about Punk in UFC, but he would legit beat up or hold his own against 95 percent of wrestlers today.

[IC Champion]

Bucks would be light work for Punk.

[Sepholio]

Lmao the only thing he's beating 95% of is his meat.

[Sepholio]

Also ace was involved in the backstage fight. Punk was not alone.

[Fignuts]

Weren't punk's fights against guys well above his skill class?

Ask Yuji Nagata how that goes.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: There was an altercation between CM Punk and The Young Bucks early Monday. The Bucks confronted Punk about his comments at the scrum. It did get physical with Punk throwing punches at least one member of The Bucks. A number intervened to separate everyone. More 2 come</p>&mdash; Steven Muehlhausen (@SMuehlhausenJr) <a href="https://twitter.com/SMuehlhausenJr/status/1566823099185733635?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[xrodmuc316]

I mean people like to joke about Punk in UFC, but he would legit beat up or hold his own against 95 percent of wrestlers today.

LOL no, the guy got tickled by an amateur photographer high on weed after spending 3 years of training with a top notch training team.

This is not Hyperbole, he would not win a fight against either Buck or anybody else. Maybe he scratched them during a pull apart melee, but that is not the same as him having a chance in Hell at beating up professional Acrobats in a fight. They are way too athletic for him to have a shot.

[Destor]

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[xrodmuc316]

Weren't punk's fights against guys well above his skill class?

Ask Yuji Nagata how that goes.

Yes, because everybody is well above his skill class. 12 year olds taking classes in karate dojos while their moms are day drinking at Applebees are above his skill class.

[screech]

Enjoyed the show save for the FTR/Wardlow vs Lethal/MCMG. Really seemed to suck the air outta the room.

[screech]

Being kicked in the nuts is hardly a clean loss, but Danielson should've gone over Jericho.

[slik]

Someone in Chicago go get a pic with the Bucks, I'm sure there's some fan convention or something, and look for bruises lol

[slik]

As someone who watched the horror film CM Punk was in, I can assure you he isn't a good enough actor for any of this to be a work

[screech]

Don't care about any of this backstage shit but I hate the Young Bucks.

[Destor]

Weren't punk's fights against guys well above his skill class?

Ask Yuji Nagata how that goes.
No. The 1st one was. The 2nd 1 was against a bum. No profights. And hasnt had any since. The guy completely humiliated punk effortlessly in comical fashion. But no the 2nd fight was a bum the likes of which we've never seen in mma before. The kind of bum we see in boxing to pad a guys record but never before in mma. Picked to give punk an easy win in his home town. And the guy mauled punk.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

TBH Destor, Mike Jackson would probably maul you too.

[slik]

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[Destor]

To his credit he has a good jaw for the screen. Classic movie chin

[rez]

classic after the ppv rable

[#1-norm-fan]

I mean people like to joke about Punk in UFC, but he would legit beat up or hold his own against 95 percent of wrestlers today.

Lol This should be obvious. It’s like when someone jokes that their high school football team could beat the absolute worst NFL team.

Only in this case a bunch of bottom-of-the-barrel wrestling nerds who shit themselves at the thought physical or even verbal confrontation try to convince themselves it’s actually true to make themselves feel better about their own shortcomings.

[#1-norm-fan]

And yeah, that 95% number is obviously more of an indictment toward wrestlers of today than it is praise toward Punk. Obviously we go back in time and that number drops to like 5%. Lol

Most wrestlers today haven’t been in a real fight.

Hell, I’d argue that many of them haven’t been in a fake fight.

[Vastardikai]

And yeah, that 95% number is obviously more of an indictment toward wrestlers of today than it is praise toward Punk. Obviously we go back in time and that number drops to like 5%. Lol

Most wrestlers today haven’t been in a real fight.

Hell, I’d argue that many of them haven’t been in a fake fight.

You are being generous on that 5% :p

But this is a fair assessment, to be honest. I want both parties to lose, but if one has to win, I would go with the one that would improve the company overall. Especially if it fosters a "listen to the guys that have been there before. Even if you don't agree, you may be surprised" attitude in the back, which is severely lacking. Which is actually one of the issues with Hangman.

Like I said, fuck both of em, but Punk slightly less?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

The Bucks aren’t in AEW to make money, create hot programs, or elevate the company they’re in. They’re in AEW to fart around with their friends. Why they didn’t book themselves to have their second match against red hot FTR for the tag titles at All Out is proof enough for me. They don’t need the trios titles and mooching off Kenny’s return, which has been uninspired from a storytelling pov, just tells me they’re not really interested in the things punk was highlighting; making money, selling tickets and selling ppvs.

Say what you will about Punk, what he said isn’t wrong. And I firmly believe he’d beat up the bucks lol

[Evil Vito]

Hopefully shit will be sorted out backstage but it would be genuinely hilarious if Hangman, Omega, and The Bucks all ended up in WWE 4 years after WWE tried to stop AEW from happening.

[Fignuts]

So is Tony going to suspend Punk like he did Eddie for getting physical?

Be cause champion or not, thats a double standard if he doesn't.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I didn’t watch any of the show and have only read comments about what happened after. But man, whoever said AEW is the spiritual successor to WCW, they weren’t kidding.

[Evil Vito]

I really can’t wait to see what the fuck happens at Grand Slam. Last year they threw out probably the closest thing to a PPV card on TV that they could’ve, on both Dynamite and Rampage.

People are very much expecting Punk/MJF and unless they’re gonna carry these real life tensions into story and do Punk/Hangman or Punk/Omega or something else like that I don’t see how it can be anything but Punk/MJF at that show.

Booking has been messy but they’ve got a chance to get some goodwill back. They drop the ball with this at their big stadium show and they might actively start to lose fans from what they thought was a reliable baseline.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Punk v Omega and the Bucks sounds due strictly because the latter three can’t cut convincing non dorky promos. I think they’ll save mjf v punk for full gear. Can’t see them moving the title off punk before then. And they should try to sell their third meeting as a huge ppv main event instead of a TV match.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Also hoping MJF just did a business transaction with Stokely to help him get the chip and that’s that. Tony doesn’t have a good track record with stables and MJF doesn’t need one.

[Destor]

Lol This should be obvious. It’s like when someone jokes that their high school football team could beat the absolute worst NFL team.

Only in this case a bunch of bottom-of-the-barrel wrestling nerds who shit themselves at the thought physical or even verbal confrontation try to convince themselves it’s actually true to make themselves feel better about their own shortcomings.
completely false. punk has a raw lack of physical awareness that is truly unique, it is in no way hyperbole when a person says the marks could take CM Punk. The guy spent millions on training and doesnt know how to throw a jab. I dont mean he has a bad jab. I mean he has a cartoon representation of what a jab is supposed to look like. Joe Rogan said it best you could take a random guy you found at a gas station who does nothing but drink and smoke and in the worst case in 3 weeks he'd be better than CM Punk (who trained for years to be that bad btw.)

https://youtu.be/yxleZpWSKQE

its not a joke or a dig. he's uniquely ill suited for fighting. he's one of those guys that gets in a domestic and his girlfriend wins. the only people who defend him are people who never saw him, or are marks worked by his stuff that have never fought (formally or otherwise,) and/or cant do even the smallest amount of assessment with their eyes. if you could youd watch even the smallest amount of his footage and cringe at just how shockingly bad it is. Its likely theyre the only ones Punk could actually take because if you dont know enough to know you could kick his ass of all asses fighting is not for you. I recommend buying a gun.

Punk went into the UFC with a name he made elsewhere and took the spot of guys far more deserving than him, guys who spent their lives trying to make it to that stage, and was humiliated in a way that had never happened before outside of those celebrity boxing train wrecks all while getting a nice paycheck that should have been going to more deserving people.

I can understand coming from a place of ignorance on the topic, thats fair. maybe you dont follow the sport or you never got around to seeing those fights. maybe violence just isnt your thing. fair enough. but to pretend like is anything other than the physical comedy that is is preposterous. he is not "good for an amateur but bad for a pro" he isnt even "good for a bar and bad for a pro."

A highschool wrestling team could score a takedown on punk 9 out of 10 times. find me any YMCA boxing enthusiast and i promise they can take punk at will until their arms give out. and then theres the ground game. he couldnt win a women's league. and the only people who wouldnt take everything i just literally are punk marks.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Ace Steel bit Kenny Omega.


https://www.f4wonline.com/news/aew/cm-punk-ace-steel-fight-with-young-bucks-kenny-omega-after-aew-all-out?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Frank Drebin]

Destor has CENANUFF!

[Fignuts]

Happy 15,000th post Frank Drebin!

[xrodmuc316]

completely false. punk has a raw lack of physical awareness that is truly unique, it is in no way hyperbole when a person says the marks could take CM Punk. The guy spent millions on training and doesnt know how to throw a jab. I dont mean he has a bad jab. I mean he has a cartoon representation of what a jab is supposed to look like. Joe Rogan said it best you could take a random guy you found at a gas station who does nothing but drink and smoke and in the worst case in 3 weeks he'd be better than CM Punk (who trained for years to be that bad btw.)

https://youtu.be/yxleZpWSKQE

its not a joke or a dig. he's uniquely ill suited for fighting. he's one of those guys that gets in a domestic and his girlfriend wins. the only people who defend him are people who never saw him, or are marks worked by his stuff that have never fought (formally or otherwise,) and/or cant do even the smallest amount of assessment with their eyes. if you could youd watch even the smallest amount of his footage and cringe at just how shockingly bad it is. Its likely theyre the only ones Punk could actually take because if you dont know enough to know you could kick his ass of all asses fighting is not for you. I recommend buying a gun.

Punk went into the UFC with a name he made elsewhere and took the spot of guys far more deserving than him, guys who spent their lives trying to make it to that stage, and was humiliated in a way that had never happened before outside of those celebrity boxing train wrecks all while getting a nice paycheck that should have been going to more deserving people.

I can understand coming from a place of ignorance on the topic, thats fair. maybe you dont follow the sport or you never got around to seeing those fights. maybe violence just isnt your thing. fair enough. but to pretend like is anything other than the physical comedy that is is preposterous. he is not "good for an amateur but bad for a pro" he isnt even "good for a bar and bad for a pro."

A highschool wrestling team could score a takedown on punk 9 out of 10 times. find me any YMCA boxing enthusiast and i promise they can take punk at will until their arms give out. and then theres the ground game. he couldnt win a women's league. and the only people who wouldnt take everything i just literally are punk marks.

This, 100%. It is why I was against Punk being in any position other than a nostalgia showcase. That doesn't mean he always had to lose, just not be the badass, because he is not.

His match against Darby, where he sat up to counter the coffin drop and chuckled, that worked because it was a vet using his brain to barely beat an up and comer.

Having him outfight the killer that is Mox, it is just illogical.

[slik]

From Meltzer

https://i.postimg.cc/VvVT0305/Punk.png

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Dang Ace Steele did one mediocre promo and then got his ass fired

Hardcore

[Mr. Nerfect]

Like I said, fuck both of em, but Punk slightly less?

This. :y:

[Evil Vito]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Doesn’t matter if your opinion of your coworker is positive or negative. Stand with them. Because they’ll do the same thing to you and you’ll wish someone helped. Trust me. You’re expendable. Together you’re unstoppable.</p>&mdash; player/coach (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/1528110014853853184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I mean, if the bucks and hangman were the ones starting rumors about colt being fired or resigned to ROH true, then they already proved punks point.

I also don’t see how anyone expects him to just sit there and have all these rumors floating around and expect him to say nothing

[#1-norm-fan]

@Destor

Take that entire description and you’re describing an average mark. Now add SOME training, experience, stamina, athleticism, etc. and you’ve got Punk. You’re judging Punk as uniquely unqualified to fight because he actually tried against other pro fighters and there’s video evidence. As bad as he was, you can’t seriously hear “the marks could take him” and think of that as anything but hyperbole.

[Triple A]

https://www.pwinsider.com/article/162804/lots-of-stories-of-backstage-fight-at-aew-ppv-here-is-what-we-know.html?p=1

Based on what we have heard from those in the company today, here is what we can ascertaine:

*After Punk finished venting his heart out at the AEW All Out Media Scrum, he returned to his locker room, where there was an altercation.

*Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks went to Punk's locker room and confronted him about his comments during the scrum.

*There was a physical altercation with Punk and Matt and Nick Jackson

*No one sharing stories is quite sure who threw the first punch.

*Kenny Omega was there but did not get into a physical altercation with Punk.

*Ace Steel arrived and did get involved as his wife was in the vicinity of the incident, possibly even inside Punk's locker room as she was watching over Punk's dog Larry. Steel was said to have gotten physically involved.

*A number of AEW staff and security hit the scene to break up the fracas and separate the Punk side from the Elite side.

*Once the sides were separated, they continued to argue for some time before The Bucks and Omega exited the area of Punk's locker room. There was a lot of yelling from each side.

*Tony Khan was not present at the incident at any point as he was still on stage for the media scrum.

*At least one of the Bucks late last night was said to be sporting a black eye.

*We have heard from a number of people in the company backing one side and blaming the other. Some were backing Omega and The Bucks, given Punk's comments, feeling Punk's verbal statements led to the incident and he was the guilty party. Others were backing Punk and questioning why EVPs stormed into his locker room, placing Punk in a situation where he would be outnumbered and that their decision to go there was partly responsible.

*Others are questioning how things will go down at TV this Wednesday given the situation involved the company's new champion, three EVPS and a Producer, all of whom are in positions of being leaders behind the scenes.

*The Bucks and Omega left Chicago earlier today.

*AEW is being very tight-lipped about the situation but the belief among those we've spoken with is the company is likely trying to determine where blame should be placed and what their course of action is going forward.

*It should be noted that over the course of the day, some of the stories around the incident have gotten more and more fantastical (as they were passed and on) and involved other names. In regard to FTR (who are close with Punk) and Hangman Page (close with the Elite, obviously), they were not present as they had all exited the NOW Arena after the PPV had concluded as they were not needed for the Media Scrum. They were not involved.

*There were some who had sympathy for MJF, feeling the situation overshadowed his return angle that closed the PPV and that the entire scenario has now deflected the attention from the PPV itself.

[Triple A]

From Fightful Select: https://www.patreon.com/posts/more-on-ace-cm-71577767

We're told that "Ace Steel shoot cracked Nick Jackson with a chair," with another person saying they think he's lucky to not be in jail. Several sources in AEW that we spoke with said that they believe Ace Steel will not be back in the company after this incident. PWinsider had also noted Steel's wife was said to have been around, caring for Punk's dog. The story of Nick Jackson having a black eye came from Steel throwing a chair at him.

Security was called and there were "many people" trying to break everything up. One person outright said it was a situation of "them trying to save lives." There was an incredible amount of heat on Ace Steel after this situation, with one person saying they weren't sure what happened, but that "it couldn't have possibly escalated to hitting someone with a chair."

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Steele should be rightfully fired immediately.

I don’t know why Kenny and the bucks thought it was a good idea to go into Punk’s locker room. Instead of being executives and reaching out to set up a meeting, you know, like real executives.

Regardless, Tony needs to squash this shit ASAP because it is fucking toxic to his company and its perception and it’s once again overshadowing what was a killer main event IMO and the return of asédialo their most talked about star.

[Evil Vito]

I also don’t see how anyone expects him to just sit there and have all these rumors floating around and expect him to say nothing

Thing is, literally nobody asked him about it. Punk opened the scrum by specifically calling on a reporter he knew did improv with Colt, hence Punk baiting him by asking "do you still do improv? Who did you do improve again?" he wanted Colt's name out there to justify beginning his tirade. So he seemingly went into this scrum fully intending on doing what he did, and he said repeatedly "it's a real shame I have to spend time addressing this" when, again, nobody even asked a question about it.

Also despite his beef with Hangman for "going into business with himself" and the EVPs for starting the rumors (and again, SRS was the first one to bring up the Colt speculation and he's said the EVPs were not his source)...he spent a lot more time dragging Colt than anyone else.

For a guy who supposedly wants nothing to do with Colt anymore he sure enjoyed discussing his lawsuit in the open, calling him a leech, dragging his financial situation and on multiple times bringing up the fact that he has a shared bank account with his mom. Colt hasn't said a word about Punk publicly in years and is basically persona non grata in AEW, so why's Punk going out of his way to shit on him?

Just very strange behavior IMO.

[Maluco]

Thing is, literally nobody asked him about it. Punk opened the scrum by specifically calling on a reporter he knew did improv with Colt, hence Punk baiting him by asking "do you still do improv? Who did you do improve again?" he wanted Colt's name out there to justify beginning his tirade. So he seemingly went into this scrum fully intending on doing what he did, and he said repeatedly "it's a real shame I have to spend time addressing this" when, again, nobody even asked a question about it.

Also despite his beef with Hangman for "going into business with himself" and the EVPs for starting the rumors (and again, SRS was the first one to bring up the Colt speculation and he's said the EVPs were not his source)...he spent a lot more time dragging Colt than anyone else.

For a guy who supposedly wants nothing to do with Colt anymore he sure enjoyed discussing his lawsuit in the open, calling him a leech, dragging his financial situation and on multiple times bringing up the fact that he has a shared bank account with his mom. Colt hasn't said a word about Punk publicly in years and is basically persona non grata in AEW, so why's Punk going out of his way to shit on him?

Just very strange behavior IMO.

Surely the answer to all of this is that Adam Page decided to bring up the situation on live TV and air out something personal in a really unprofessional way?

If the whole situation is anyone’s fault, it’s his for bringing backstage tension and gossip on to their TV show and trying to cut out the legs of their biggest star?

[ron the dial]

so it's really smart to double down and shit your pants about it after a ppv in a super professional manner

[ron the dial]

I HATE TO EVEN SAY THE NAME SCOTT COLTON

*talks about scott colton for 15 minutes*

[ron the dial]

all of these guys are dumbasses really so whatever

[Lock Jaw]

4 the cultists

https://i.imgur.com/vYPYGYZ.gif

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Bucks and Omega are instigating wankers. They shouldn’t be EVPs. Also, they suck as wrestlers.

[Verbose Minch]

The Bucks and Omega are instigating wankers. They shouldn’t be EVPs. Also, they suck as wrestlers.

I don't think saying they suck as wrestlers is fair to say, they just need more of a filter on them. They're like Russo without Vince. They've just gotta tone down the act (I'm speaking more so about the Bucks than I am about Omega).

[Stu Hart]

I dont want MJF to be a babyface , and I dont want Punk to be a heel but it seems to be going that way.

I feel a heel MJF as a chicken shit champion, and a babyface chasing - having to run the gauntlet is a better draw. The question is , is Punk that babyface?

[Tom Guycott]

The same with MJF. He’s just…back now.



If there is anything you can trust in AEW, it's Maxwell Jacob Freidman being able to promo his way around this mess and put the spotlight squarely back on himself when all is said and done. The moment might have been spoiled, but I personally believe he can make himself the story again. Probably using the scrum aftermath in his promo.

[Mr. Nerfect]

MJF is good, but what was the point in keeping him off TV? Unless he was just sorting shit out. But why not use the Wardlow thing as the write-off?

[McLegend]

Why have press conferences after Wrestling PPV’s? Just seems like a bad idea.

[Blonde Moment]

MJF is good, but what was the point in keeping him off TV? Unless he was just sorting shit out. But why not use the Wardlow thing as the write-off?

Maybe it was a combination of him being a little banged up, Punk getting injured and his last promo going off script?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why have press conferences after Wrestling PPV’s? Just seems like a bad idea.

I hate them. I want wrestling to be in kayfabe as much as possible. These press conferences are just too much shop talk for me. I get that some people are going to love that, and you don’t have to watch them, but eh. There’s a reason MJF works so much better than just about anyone else in wrestling, and it’s because he treats his craft with sincerity.

[Jordan]

Why have press conferences after Wrestling PPV’s? Just seems like a bad idea.

While I enjoy the influx of information, I totally agree. They are trying to be like NJPW except there they don't break kayfabe and talk about booking plans and decisions and the psychology of the booker leading up to making decisions.

[Sepholio]

Gonna laugh when Punk holds the title hostage and insists he goes over MJF, Omega, Hangman or whoever and refuses to work otherwise.

[IC Champion]

As he should.

[Evil Vito]

Punk also took quotes from a Hangman seminar hilariously out of context. In that seminar, Hangman admitted that he isn't the best at taking advice, that he listens and appreciates the help but prefers a trial and error approach to his character and that's always been what he finds works best for him. Mind you he said all of this in a pretty meek way, and while he was already World champion.

Punk acted like Hangman was on some shoot rant taking a giant dump on the veteran minds in the locker room. "This fucking piece of shit dumbfuck Adam Page thinks he's too good to take advice with all the minds we have back here? Get the fuck out of here!"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punk also took quotes from a Hangman seminar hilariously out of context. In that seminar, Hangman admitted that he isn't the best at taking advice, that he listens and appreciates the help but prefers a trial and error approach to his character and that's always been what he finds works best for him. Mind you he said all of this in a pretty meek way, and while he was already World champion.

Punk acted like Hangman was on some shoot rant taking a giant dump on the veteran minds in the locker room. "This fucking piece of shit dumbfuck Adam Page thinks he's too good to take advice with all the minds we have back here? Get the fuck out of here!"

You’re the king of taking things out of context.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I’ve enjoyed punks run for the most part but man I’d be shocked if he makes it to the end of his contract

[weather vane]

LOVE THIS

[Evil Vito]

There's a thought that Punk might be hurt and might've torn his pec in the fight. Lmfao

[Evil Vito]

"If you have a problem with me, take it up with me, let's fucking go."

*people take it up with him, he immediately gets hurt*

WELP

[Sepholio]

Tony needs to just send Phil packing.

[Sepholio]

Should make him drop the title to Colt on Wednesday.

[slik]

Yikes

Meltzer saying Punk might have torn his bicep or pec and might be out with injury / have to forfeit the title

[Triple A]

It looked like he tore his biceps or something during the match, he kept checking his arm repeatedly

[Triple A]

What a mess...

[Sepholio]

Meltzer also says that if Ace Steele is punished for his involvement that Punks gonna want to walk.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vince McMahon retires<br>HHH takes over<br>CM Punk stuff<br>Cody Rhodes leaves<br>Others jump ship to AEW<br>EVP drama<br>Jeff Hardy<br>MJF disappears<br>Thunder Rosa<br>ROH returns<br>Naomi/Sasha Banks walk out<br>Austin returns<br><br>What a bonkers year for wrestling news. And still 4 months left. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEW</a></p>&mdash; Blake Oestriecher (@BOestriecher) <a href="https://twitter.com/BOestriecher/status/1566887718013075457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[McLegend]

I still think he’s worth it.

It’s possible he might not be able to physically do it anymore since he’s getting hurt a lot, but he’s such a good talker.

I thought his whole “shoot promo” was riveting. I’d keep him no matter what.

[IC Champion]

Meltzer also says that if Ace Steele is punished for his involvement that Punks gonna want to walk.

As he should.

[Sepholio]

Really hope they fire Ace then.

[Sepholio]

2 birds with one stone.

[xrodmuc316]

"If you have a problem with me, take it up with me, let's fucking go."

*people take it up with him, he immediately gets hurt*

WELP

LOL!

I also love how the story has changed as more info gets out. It went from Punk knocking out a Young Buck (impossible for Punk) to it was actually Ace Steele throwing a chair at Nick Jackson, and that, not a Phil fist, it why his face is marked up.

Bischoff was right, Phil really truly believes that because he wins fake fights he can win real ones.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Thing is he’s useless as just a mouth piece for them. If he’s hurt again, he should forfeit the title and they should just move forward without him. Maybe he comes back again but at this point he’s a liability who’s just ruining storylines because he can’t stay healthy

[IC Champion]

Really hope they fire Ace then.

But then no more Punk :(

[Sepholio]

Yeah if he's hurt again they gotta stop pushing him at the very least. Kinda curious what they do with the title this time if it's true though.

[Sepholio]

But then no more Punk :):):heart::y::y::D:D

[slik]

I like watching Punk and I don't like watching the Young Bucks so my solution is to fire the Young Bucks, Kenny Omega, Michael Nakazawa and to keep Brandon Cutler bc Cutler is entertaining.

Problem solved.

[IC Champion]

I second that motion.

[slik]

Also, just to be safe, Tony should also release Kyle O'Reilly

[Evil Vito]

If Punk actually walks, that’s surely the end of the line for him in wrestling unless he wants to go have fun with Freddie Prinze Jr. or something.

If the Elite walked I think they’d definitely get WWE offers. I mean they already got offers back when WWE were in their “sign everyone” stage and while they turned them down, I don’t sense Triple H felt slighted by it given what happened. I suspect Triple H would genuinely welcome Omega on WWE programming. Less so the Bucks but I think he’d give them a short-term deal just for the flex of knowing he got all of their EVPs.

[ron the dial]

fire punk and the evps. fuck em all. idiots.

[#1-norm-fan]

If he’s hurt again just take the title off of him and use him in a part-timer role. It’s a good excuse to make his matches feel more special. Kinda like they should have done early on.

[Evil Vito]

Hold another talent meeting. Have Arn Anderson threaten to shoot anyone who gets out of line.

Problem solved.

[Sepholio]

I wonder how many guys in the back are watching this unfold and just counting the days until their contracts are up?

[Sepholio]

Can see MJF trying to cash in on Punk, they say Punk is hurt and isn't cleared and MJF insists Punk forfeit and hand him the title or he'll walk again.

Then punk comes back in 9 months and resumes feud with MJF, probably at a show conveniently held in Chicago.

[#1-norm-fan]

Well, Ace has better aim than Cody it seems.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The opening of next week's BTE <a href="https://t.co/umJ8v1WhDH">pic.twitter.com/umJ8v1WhDH</a></p>&mdash; Danny (@BroomMega) <a href="https://twitter.com/BroomMega/status/1566997235619209217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Frank Drebin]

This shit is bananas

B-A-N-A-N-A-S

[Sepholio]

Drebin just reminded me that it's now PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME

[Frank Drebin]

With a base ball bat?

[Frank Drebin]

I mean....how can a wrestling fan not be looking forward to wtf Dynamite is gonna be at this point? Could be the biggest train wreck we've seen since Victory Road.

[Frank Drebin]

I hope Punk provides baked goods for everyone and everyone eats while cutting promos for Triple A's sake.

[Frank Drebin]

Please let the Acclaimed have a match just for the entrance rap, btw.

[XL]

100% work. This is the receipt to MJF for the Double or Nothing shenanigans. Nobody is talking about his return/match with Punk. Punk and the EVPs have put the spotlight firmly on them.

[ron the dial]

As someone who watched the horror film CM Punk was in, I can assure you he isn't a good enough actor for any of this to be a work

[XL]

Changed my mind. 100% a shoot. No way these guys can coexist. Give Dynamite to Punk, and The Elite can have Rampage.

[Evil Vito]

SRS has spoken to a number of talent who believe Punk is gonna end up getting let go.

[Evil Vito]

Because things keep getting weirder by the minute....my guess now is that somehow things will be worked out for Punk to stick around, he'll defend the belt against MJF at Grand Slam.

And, because we live in hell, he'll just grab the title and walk out mid-match and we'll be left even more confused than we already are.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Several AEW talent have told us they don't know how Punk couldn't be let go after how things went. <a href="https://t.co/GxtW77fWbs">https://t.co/GxtW77fWbs</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1567205505356939264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Several AEW talent have told us they don't know how Punk couldn't be let go after how things went. <a href="https://t.co/GxtW77fWbs">https://t.co/GxtW77fWbs</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1567205505356939264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well now we know what Brandon Cutler and Michael Nakazawa think about the situation.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The solution to all AEW’s problems is bringing in Paul Jones as a manager if he’s still alive. Or Gary Hart.

[#1-norm-fan]

The solution to all AEW’s problems is bringing in Paul Jones as a manager if he’s still alive. Or Gary Hart.

WHO GONNA BE A BALD HEADED GEEK???

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Imagine choosing the young bucks over CM Punk lol. Punk is a pain in the ass but he’s not a goofy nerd interested in playing wrestler with their friends

[Loose Cannon]

This CM Punk thing for the past few weeks has to be a work, right? There's no way this much horse shit goes down week after week with this guy and he's not legit fired yet.

It's a really good work if it is. They have me fooled

[Loose Cannon]

and the MJF thing. work? Why are there so many shoots going on in this company lol. Is Russo booking?

[IC Champion]

You’re surprised that a perennial malcontent would be a constant pain in the ass?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Which dirt sheet do people think Punk is talking to?