AEW All Out 2022 / CM Punk Fallout

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punk hating a place is not a valid measuring stick for me. He's hated every place he's been. He's just one of those people that is seemingly always miserable.

I don’t think he hated ROH or OVW. He might be what you say, don’t get me wrong, but he’s gotten mad at WWE and AEW. Both of those could be very understandable.

[rez]

This really fucks MJF. He wanted fired but CM Punk might actually get fired. Really screws that story when all he had to do was attack the Elite. Also winning the championship off Punk would mean more. Could also used to turn MJF if Punk returns and cost him the championship. Punk and the Elite working together the whole time.

All this chaos has to have something to do with your dirty anal tunnel...I just know it! :love:

[Sepholio]

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[Evil Vito]

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[IC Champion]

Put the belt on Jericho. He’s the perfect transition champion.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Man just imaging MJF walking out and saying "I have mental health issues too. FUCKING FIRE ME TONY, DO IT BITCH!!! See, mental issues. Bye."

Lol, if guys want to get out of their contracts…

Seriously, MJF is going to be fine. He’ll talk about how him returning sent ripples that melted everyone’s brain causing them to act like children, he put the hurting on Punk and driving him to the next level so he could hold the World Title for two moments, and now he’s back to save AEW from everyone not him. No one upstages him, as much as they try to put on the ol’ turtleneck and give it a go. He doesn’t want the best competition, he doesn’t want critical approval or people to know who his friends aren’t. He wants the World Title and he hopes everyone tears a tricep jerking themselves off trying to get it.

Don’t wait. Do MJF vs. Mox vs. Jericho vs. Christian Cage on Dynamite. I’m normally against four-ways, but wtf. Let them all interact throughout the show. Maybe MJF and Regal too. Let that be the driving force of your episode — who is going to be the NEW AEW World Champion? Remind people of who you do have.

Bryan Danielson gives an open challenge because he’s feeling the need to step up. Claudio answers and they have a banger. Jade Cargill squashes some poor girl. Miro sets his sights on Wardlow and the TNT Title, maybe with Darby & Sting getting into it with FTR. That’s your show.

[rez]

I'm not sure the scroll down is long enough

[IC Champion]

Lol, if guys want to get out of their contracts…

Seriously, MJF is going to be fine. He’ll talk about how him returning sent ripples that melted everyone’s brain causing them to act like children, he put the hurting on Punk and driving him to the next level so he could hold the World Title for two moments, and now he’s back to save AEW from everyone not him. No one upstages him, as much as they try to put on the ol’ turtleneck and give it a go. He doesn’t want the best competition, he doesn’t want critical approval or people to know who his friends aren’t. He wants the World Title and he hopes everyone tears a tricep jerking themselves off trying to get it.

Don’t wait. Do MJF vs. Mox vs. Jericho vs. Christian Cage on Dynamite. I’m normally against four-ways, but wtf. Let them all interact throughout the show. Maybe MJF and Regal too. Let that be the driving force of your episode — who is going to be the NEW AEW World Champion? Remind people of who you do have.

Bryan Danielson gives an open challenge because he’s feeling the need to step up. Claudio answers and they have a banger. Jade Cargill squashes some poor girl. Miro sets his sights on Wardlow and the TNT Title, maybe with Darby & Sting getting into it with FTR. That’s your show.

No one useable idea in all that jumble.

[Mr. Nerfect]

No one useable idea in all that jumble.

Fine, take Vince Russo’s ideas. That’s how your brain works, right? False dichotomies and all that.

[IC Champion]

Fine, take Vince Russo’s ideas. That’s how your brain works, right? False dichotomies and all that.

Are you telling me Russo booking Mick Foley to win the WWF title wasn’t one of the greatest moments in wrestling history?

[IC Champion]

I can jump to conclusions too ya know.

[IC Champion]

Because that was definitely what you are saying.

[Blonde Moment]

So would Jericho be the best fit to replace Punk in the Mjf feud?

[IC Champion]

Probably not. But you could put the title on him and have him drop it someone easily enough because it’s Jericho. It’ll be a big win for whoever and it’s not hurting Jericho at all.

[Simple Fan]

Punk was wrestling in Danhausen's boots so he has a claim to the title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

MJF wins the belt on Dynamite. Don’t fuck around.

[Sepholio]

He should seriously just take the title. You can have a bunch of guys fighting over it if you want too but MJF should just casually walk out during the match and take it and leave.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Four-way match. MJF (#1 Contender), Mox (former champ), Jericho (inaugural champ), Christian Cage (win at AO, sleazes in). Jungle Boy fucks Christian over and MJF wins the belt.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He should seriously just take the title. You can have a bunch of guys fighting over it if you want too but MJF should just casually walk out during the match and take it and leave.

This wouldn’t be horrible. Mox vs. Jericho for the belt, MJF walks out and steals it, pisses on it next week.

[Sepholio]

fyi Christian is injured so stuff won't work with him rn. Bad timing on that too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just fold up the company then. Fml

[Mr. Nerfect]

fyi Christian is injured so stuff won't work with him rn. Bad timing on that too.

Then go with your MJF idea. MJF opens the show, cuts the promo he’s going to cut. Jericho vs. Mox is announced for the Regional Title. MJF steals the belt and starts a feud with Mox again, because…well, who else is there?

[Sepholio]

TK probably backing a dump truck full of Benjamins up to Goldbergs house as we speak.

[Sepholio]

In trying to think of people they could put in main events rn.....where the hell is Lance Archer?

[Mr. Nerfect]

They’ve ruined Danielson. They need to start rebuilding him. Claudio is anchored by a bullshit title. Christian hurt. Archer is a maybe if you can get him back, but even though I’d like to have seen him against Punk (for the Punk/Jake dynamic), he doesn’t have any real credibility.

Joe?

[Sepholio]

Joes bogged down with another one of the ROH titles.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Miro. Put the belt on Miro.

[Sepholio]

....I know its a stretch but what about a NJPW guy?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Oh no, what if they bring back Adam Cole and put it on him…

[Frank Drebin]

What about Malak.....oh.....right.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Fuck it put the title on Billy Gunn and have him feud with his sons.

[Sepholio]

Like if they could get Ospreay back he wouldn't be a horrible choice at all to have win the title and then put over MJF in a few months. Plus it would add a little to the next eventual match in the feud between Will and Kenny.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Like could anyone give a good reason to not do that? He arguably looks the most credible person on the roster, and along with the Gunn Club and The Acclaimed has been part of the most entertaining storylines for the last 6 months. Do it. Billy Gunn for world champion.

[rez]

Butcher...

The show is in Buffalo.

[Sepholio]

Would also be a bit of a slap in the face to Kenny to have his rival crowned champion because of the whole situation and Kenny could probably use a bit of a smack.

[Sepholio]

Should have Pillman snap and go all loose cannon and win it.

[Sepholio]

I think the obvious choice here is rather simple though and one I think Tony could definitely get behind:

SEND HOOK

[slik]

put the belt on taz

taz vs jericho at full gear plz

[Sepholio]

I am buying what Slik is selling. In fact, I'll buy all of it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They should have put the belt on Will Hobbs at Forbidden Door.

[Sepholio]

Bet Adam Cole returns tonight

[Sepholio]

also just throwing it out there but now would be as good a time as any to push Andrade.

[Sepholio]

T - 30 minutes until the shit show commencessssss

[ron the dial]

Miro. Put the belt on Miro.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

They have nobody with any semblance of momentum right now. Not even Moxley, coming off his first clean loss. Gotta get the belt on MJF but I don’t want Moxley to lose again. Not so soon. I still think Page should be put in an eliminator match and lose to MJF at grand slam.

[rez]

Career defining moment for Tony Khan aboot to start. Let's see how he handles this...

[#1-norm-fan]

The quicker they get the belt on MJF, the quicker they can build him back up and get the title on THE WARDLOW.

[rez]

Hangman not suspended eh

[rez]

short pre recorded speech with his trademark deer in the headlights eyes.

[rez]

this man is single handedly saving the company. breath it in, tpww.

[ron the dial]

yo we in the dynamite thread

[IC Champion]

Just want to relish in the facts that Punk isn’t getting fired.

[Vastardikai]

Just want to relish in the facts that Punk isn’t getting fired.

I am sure the amount is being discussed. I joked with a bro it is probably 5 Million for himself and 3 Million for Ace, because of how medical bills are and there is no telling how poisonous Kenny is.

And that is to avoid the lawsuit for hostile work environment.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

The Young Bucks trying to pretend they didn't barge into the dressing room lol

[Evil Vito]

In any investigative situation like this both sides are always going to prevent different perspectives on what happened and in almost every situation, both sides are fudging. The truth is nearly always somewhere in the middle.

Really going to come down to whatever third parties witnessed.

[Evil Vito]

Maybe with the sheer amount of time Punk is out with injury, enough time will pass for cooler heads to prevail, and everyone involved with this comes into agreement that when Punk returns there is an enormous money-making match staring everybody right in the face.

That is, of course, CM Punk vs. Colt Cabana in a Marcia Colton on a Pole Match.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

hahaha. I dunno. I'm doubting we see Punk again, whether from being fired or quitting.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Honestly, I wonder if AEW would be better off without the lot of them. No Bucks, No Kenny, No Punk. Bucks and Kenny are like a fucking albatross anyways because--if they're healthy--you always need to give them TV time. And nobody gives a shit about them outside of the base, and the base will like almost anyone you put in their positions.

That speech of Omega's (as it's being reported) shows he's an unfit locker room leader at the very least.

[Evil Vito]

I don't think that scenario can be ruled out at all. Right now, there are a billion conflicting reports out there but it feels like something where everything could be on the table.

From mediation that sees everyone sitting down/sorting things out (feels unlikely, but you never know, if it's this or lawyers the parties might all go for it) all the way up to everybody being let go.

[Evil Vito]

Kinda hilarious to imagine AEW without any of the original 4 EVPs though

Of the guys who were in the actual Elite stable when the company started, the only one left would be Hangman. I have no clue if he's still actually really tight with Omega and the Bucks but if those guys leave AEW he may very well choose to leave as well. Then MJF would have Tony even more by the balls than he already does.

[IC Champion]

Nobody’s gonna get fired. Once Punk is healthy he should make his return and they should put the belt right back on him. I can’t see why TK wouldn’t.

[Splaya]

I hope if Punk leaves and it’s under his own volition, he doesn’t sign an NDA.

You think Tony would actually know how to require something like that? That's cute. :lol:

He can't even take a drink of water without looking like a weirdo.

[drave]

Nobody’s gonna get fired. Once Punk is healthy he should make his return and they should put the belt right back on him. I can’t see why TK wouldn’t.




Because his body gives out worse than Nash's quads at this point.


If he's not careful, he might catch a breeze and be snapped into dust, Thanos style.

[Mr. Nerfect]

You think Tony would actually know how to require something like that? That's cute. :lol:

He can't even take a drink of water without looking like a weirdo.

Ha, look, I love dunking on Tony as much as the next guy, but one thing even I’ve got to give the guy is that daddy’s money has got him lawyered the fuck up.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don’t know how I would go rehabbing a major injury to return to a place that bent me out of a shape like AEW did Punk. It sounds like a terrible place to be in.

[IC Champion]

Punk hates wherever he is at. So what does it matter?

[xrodmuc316]

Imagine being 43 years old and making $5 million dollars portraying a fake tough guy, even after publicly being exposed as the worst fighter in MMA history, and still being so bitter that you blow it all up.

[Triple A]

Wondering if he knew he was badly injured after the match and was just like "fuck it I'm done" and decided to flip out on everyone on the way out

[Splaya]

Wondering if he knew he was badly injured after the match and was just like "fuck it I'm done" and decided to flip out on everyone on the way out

I've strongly considered this thought. It is definitely possible.

The theory that I've wondered about is I feel like they can't fire punk right now. Because even though he got hurt during the match, Punk is such an asshole that he would say the injury was further down during the fight backstage and then sue Tony for a boat load of money.

[Evil Vito]

Can't believe the stress of this Punk/EVP drama killed the Queen.

[XL]

Punk def concussed when he did that press conference. Give the guy a break, and a pay rise, and welcome him back with open arms.

[Loose Cannon]

i still can't believe this actually happened and wasn't part of some shoot angle.

I'm sure shit like this happened all the time back in the territory days though lol. the problem with this one though is you have the vice presidents of the company fighting with employees hahaha

[Mr. Nerfect]

i still can't believe this actually happened and wasn't part of some shoot angle.

I'm sure shit like this happened all the time back in the territory days though lol. the problem with this one though is you have the vice presidents of the company fighting with employees hahaha

The territories have their crazy stories, sure, but the business was so much more protected back then. The Bucks and Omega wouldn’t be in wrestling, let alone EVPs. Promoters wouldn’t do public pressers that were there to blow past kayfabe either. This is a new problem Tony Khan has created for himself.

[drave]

The pressers are very dumb, especially if they aren't in kayfabe.....


As "dead" as that may be these days, they should still preserve it where possible.

[Jordan]

Imagine being 43 years old and making $5 million dollars portraying a fake tough guy, even after publicly being exposed as the worst fighter in MMA history, and still being so bitter that you blow it all up.

[Sepholio]

Gonna be hilarious when Punk is the Joker at All Out in Chicago next year lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

The pressers are very dumb, especially if they aren't in kayfabe.....


As "dead" as that may be these days, they should still preserve it where possible.

Agreed! :y:

[#1-norm-fan]

I like the idea of pressers and, as crazy as this might sound, Punk is one of the guys who knows how to do it right. He does well at not breaking kayfabe while not sounding odd. Unlike The Young Bucks talking to the media after one of the earlier shows and assuring them that a chair shot was safely done. Lol

There are also some reporters that know how to play the game while other dipshits ask questions like “Hey, Tony. Was there any thought of changing the script when you heard the crowd reaction?”

There’s a way to toe the line and make these things beneficial to the actual product.

[Stu Hart]

They always had it in for Punk. Here's behind the scenes of his debut - look at these 3 pricks react with jealousy , watch the last 15 seconds :

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Fuck these jealous cunts!

[drave]

I like the idea of pressers and, as crazy as this might sound, Punk is one of the guys who knows how to do it right. He does well at not breaking kayfabe while not sounding odd. Unlike The Young Bucks talking to the media after one of the earlier shows and assuring them that a chair shot was safely done. Lol

There are also some reporters that know how to play the game while other dipshits ask questions like “Hey, Tony. Was there any thought of changing the script when you heard the crowd reaction?”

There’s a way to toe the line and make these things beneficial to the actual product.




Maybe..... but he sure fucking stepped in it with this latest one. Regardless of right or wrong, he looks insanely unprofessional who cries like a bitch the second he is forgotten about.


They could've turned it into a work, but he was too butthurt about a SUUUUUPER passive comment.


To me, if he wasn't actually guilty, he wouldn't have reacted like he did. Must've been a guilty conscience eating him up.

[xrodmuc316]

The best was when he said "I work with children" and motioned right at Tiny, who was nodding his head the whole time like the mark he is.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They always had it in for Punk. Here's behind the scenes of his debut - look at these 3 pricks react with jealousy , watch the last 15 seconds :

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Fuck these jealous cunts!

The Elite’s bad comedy aside, there’s a reason it took them so long to get Punk in. They’re not comfortable with his star power relative to theirs (even if you don’t think Punk is a draw) or Punk’s influence. Pink represents a studious way of doing wrestling. He’s about psychology and watching Bret Hart tapes. Omega tells wrestling students to stop selling. There are camps swelling up around which way works best.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The best was when he said "I work with children" and motioned right at Tiny, who was nodding his head the whole time like the mark he is.

I don’t know how Tony can’t wear some of the blame himself. If he actually agrees with Punk, then why are they Vice Presidents? If he doesn’t, his regime just got mocked in front of the world. Being in the situation is tough, especially if you’re not media trained (you know, for your bullshit media scrum), but so much of this has been cultivated, if eben inadvertently, by Tony Khan.

[IC Champion]

Wait, omega actually tells people to stop selling?

[xrodmuc316]

The best was when he said "I work with children" and motioned right at Tiny, who was nodding his head the whole time like the mark he is.

I take it back. The BEST was when Punk was calling Colt a loser for sharing a bank account with his mom, while Tiny is sitting there knowing all his money is directly from his dad's bank account :rofl:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Maybe..... but he sure fucking stepped in it with this latest one. Regardless of right or wrong, he looks insanely unprofessional who cries like a bitch the second he is forgotten about.


They could've turned it into a work, but he was too butthurt about a SUUUUUPER passive comment.


To me, if he wasn't actually guilty, he wouldn't have reacted like he did. Must've been a guilty conscience eating him up.

I don’t think it’s the one comment. It’s the whole environment behind the scenes. It’s Page being just another appendage The Elite use to snipe at his influence and keep business down at a level they are comfortable with.

I’m convinced The Elite are some of the most selfish performers in wrestling history. They ironically trumpet how selfless they are — but it is all about them. They’re threatened by someone coming in and actually potentially growing their business. It shatters the narrative that they are the best. They’re all about their egos and as long as TK is paying them, fuck it if AEW has an appeal to the most wrestling fans possible. And fuck its sustainability.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wait, omega actually tells people to stop selling?

There’s a video of him running a training program and the guys were working spots and selling. Omega interrupted them and told them to stop and make it look graceful, like a dance.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I take it back. The BEST was when Punk was calling Colt a loser for sharing a bank account with his mom, while Tiny is sitting there knowing all his money is directly from his dad's bank account :rofl:

I’ve seen people say that there’s probably a very good reason Colt shares a bank account with his mom, like she doesn’t have all her faculties. Don’t you guys have power-of-attorney over there?

[xrodmuc316]

I’ve seen people say that there’s probably a very good reason Colt shares a bank account with his mom, like she doesn’t have all her faculties. Don’t you guys have power-of-attorney over there?

We do, lots of people do that for their parents. Phil was implying that Colt is a loser because his mom has to run his finances, which is absurd also because lots of people also have financial advisers who control their finances. It was just a really weird flex from a guy who filed a restraining order on his own mother, because he himself is of sound mind.

[Mr. Nerfect]

We do, lots of people do that for their parents. Phil was implying that Colt is a loser because his mom has to run his finances, which is absurd also because lots of people also have financial advisers who control their finances. It was just a really weird flex from a guy who filed a restraining order on his own mother, because he himself is of sound mind.

I am totally convinced by that, sorry. Helping someone run their finances is one thing, but you don’t need a joint account for that. And why would Colt want it dropped?

[ron the dial]

Helping someone run their finances is one thing, but you don’t need a joint account for that.
i work in an industry that allows me to see this sort of information, and regardless of the reason joint accounts between parents and adult children are VERY common.

[Destor]

I'd've been so embarrassed by that info being public

[Sepholio]

My best friend has a joint account with his mom because he runs all of her finances for her because of her health and it was just easier to have her income go directly into an account he could access.

[Sepholio]

Id been so embarrassed by that info being public

Exactly, it's just an optics thing. With the way peoples minds work it'll be used to make fun of him no matter why he has the account with his mom. See CM Punk doing exactly that.

Besides it's just flat out nobodies business.

[Destor]

From cabanas stand point the guy is sitting at home with his dick in his hand getting his name dug through the mud because of something the bucks, allegedly, said

[Destor]

I think no matter what side you side with he's the victim :lol:

[xrodmuc316]

There are reasons for it, such if Colt was trying to hide assets for the lawsuit, but then it wouldn't make sense to put his name on the account. He might also not even be a co-owner of the account. He could be listed on his mom's account as Power of Attorney, which would give him full authority to act on her behalf over the account. He could also be listed as a beneficiary/Payable on Death, which would not give him any control of the account until his mother's passing.

None of that is either uncommon or implies what Phil is wanting it to, that it is a flaw of Colt's to be mocked.

Phil is probably the kind of guy who has all sole owned accounts separate from his wife. If he doesn't have a proper will, his assets would be tied up in probate, which by the way is far more irresponsible for an adult than having a joint bank account with a trusted family member.

[Destor]

Punks take obviously is Cabana is living on his moms dime. Thing is no matter what the context Punk gloated about going after Cabanas mom to settle the dispute. Thats just the kind of guy he is.

[IC Champion]

Sounds like Cabana was using his mother as cover in a lawsuit. Quite sad.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Must be a weird American thing. Over here, children have their own bank accounts when they’re school age. Doesn’t make sense to me when you could just have power of attorney and manage the separate account. It’s way more confusing for things to be in one account too. And that doesn’t explain why Colt was trying to hide it. Why drop it against Punk because of that?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Punks take obviously is Cabana is living on his moms dime. Thing is no matter what the context Punk gloated about going after Cabanas mom to settle the dispute. Thats just the kind of guy he is.

Well Punk’s take is that he DIDN’T go after her. Colt went after him and then when they discovered his finances were tied up with his mother, that’s when it all ended.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I’d feel a little sorry for Colt Cabana, provided he is not a piece of shit. He sounds like a bit of a manipulator. He’s a casualty of The Elite trying to use him to sabotage Punk. He probably could have quashed it. But maybe he believed it?

[Destor]

It ended because Cabana ended it when punk and his team went to drag Cabanas mother into the middle of it. Punk didnt call off his own lawyers; by punks own admission. Punk DID go after her and it made Cubana, the plaintiff, rescind his case.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It ended because Cabana ended it when punk and his team went to drag Cabanas mother into the middle of it. Punk didnt call off his own lawyers; by punks own admission. Punk DID go after her and it made Cubana, the plaintiff, rescind his case.

Cabana went after Punk then Punk launched a counter suit. I wouldn’t call that going after the dude’s mom.

[Destor]

Im not sure how not when thats literally what he did out of his own mouth but fair enough i guess

[Mr. Nerfect]

Im not sure how not when thats literally what he did out of his own mouth but fair enough i guess

Maybe I’m misremembering the shoot (seriously), but I got the impression Cabana wanted to drop it and Punk obviously did when the stuff with Colt’s mom came up in discovery. I don’t think he had any venom towards her, except dropping her name as an indicator “Hey, this is the truth.”

I’m probably defending the guy too much, but I’m definitely leaning towards his side of the story when it comes to him vs. The Elite. But we’ll see what else shakes out.

[xrodmuc316]

According to the Sun-Times article, Cabana's 15-page lawsuit alleges that "Brooks acted with fraud, malice and oppression toward Colton, with the deliberate intention of causing Colton harm."

Cabana is alleging that when Dr. Amann's attorneys contacted him with a cease and desist letter related to the podcast in December 2014, Punk told him not to respond. When Amann filed his lawsuit against them, Cabana alleged that Punk told him, via text, that his legal bills would be covered.

However, Cabana alleges that he received an April 2016 email from Punk regarding a financial billing Punk had received from his legal representatives, Loeb & Loeb, with Punk writing, "To date I have spent $513,736 dollars on this Amman lawsuit. My outstanding bill is at least 300K. Half of all this is yours. Divide the 513,736 by 2 that is what you owe me and what I expect you to pay me. Starting now, I will no longer be paying your bills. You are on your own. Whatever my bill is currently, will be cut in half and half will be yours. If you choose to make this all ugly, that's fine too. I hope you won't, but I gave up on you doing what is right a long time ago."

It had been believed for some time that there had been a personal falling out between the two over the course of the Amann lawsuit. Based on the correspondence included in the lawsuit, that certainly appears to have been the case.

Cabana claims in the lawsuit that he was later told by Punk's attorney that he would continue to represent Cabana, even if Cabana wasn't paying the fees, as long there "is no conflict between you and Phil that prevents me from morally and ethically representing you."

Cabana retained Loeb & Loeb until March 2017, when he claimed that he was forced to hire his own representation. In the lawsuit, Cabana stated he was "informed and believed" that Punk caused Loeb & Loeb to withdraw as Cabana's attorney.

After their courtroom victory over Amann's lawsuit, Cabana's attorneys approached Punk, seeking payment of $200,000, the cost of Cabana's legal fees post-Loeb & Loeb. Punk turned that overture down, leading to Cabana's claim of breach of contract.

Cabana is also claiming that had he not listened to Punk and just responded to the original cease and desist letter, he would not have dealt with any "costs, expenses or losses" in regard to the Amann case.


In other words, :fu: Phil

[Sepholio]

Sounds like Hangman made a sound decision by not taking advice from Philadelphia Brooks.

[xrodmuc316]

Bros how about the fallout caused on Mindy's Bakery's Yelp Reviews

https://www.yelp.com/biz/mindys-bakery-chicago?sort_by=date_desc

:lol: