Offical RAW Thread 06/13/05 - Who's Next to RAW?

[Azriel]

No freaklin way!

[V]

KURT FREAKING ANGLE

[Batsu]

DAMMIT!

[Boondock Saint]

ANGLE!

[mike627]

HOLY SHIT! ANGLE!

[PorkSoda]

ITS KIRK ANGEL! HOLY RED WHITE AND BLUE OREO PUDDING!

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

God Damnit.

[Gone Mad]

HOLY FREAKIN' SNITSKY!!!!!!! ANNNNNNNNNNNGLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MONDAY NITE'S RULE ALL NOW, DAMN YOU!

[Londoner]

Angle on Raw, smackdown is fucked again.

[Innovator]

KURT FREAKIN ANGLE!

[Azriel]

HOLY SHIT!!! Totally AWESOME!!!! YES!!!!!!

[Shadow]

I HATE YOU ALL! I FUCKING HATE YOU ALL! I WANT YOU ALL TO DIE!

[owenbrown]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT ITS KURT ANGLE

[Bricktop]

Dang, its not a face wrestler. I mean yesssss Angle!

[Face Heely]

*sigh* Shoulda saved Angle for a later pick. They can only go downhill from here. (Not that this is a bad pick, though.)

[Corndad]

It was too obvious guys... too obvious

[Sepholio]

I thought it was going to be Haas or Dupree!? /sarcasm

[Fenix122]

thank god....no more pervert angle.

[Azriel]

You tell him Kurt.

And that Wooo! sucked :lol:

[Deceit]

LOL WHOOOOOS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Boondock Saint]

ROFLLL

[Corndad]

Kurt Face Turn?

LOL the WOOing War!

[Marcyo]

LOL @ WOOOOs

[SuperSlim]

woo battle :D

[mike627]

The old fool is wooing...

[PorkSoda]

WOOO!
WOOO!
WOOO!

Angle is the man.

[Fenix122]

LMAO at the WOOOOOO!!! war

[KingofOldSchool]

HAHAHAHA

[Innovator]

A WOOOO off

[Azriel]

A WOOO-off :lol:

[Sepholio]

lololol Flair and Angle are hillarious.

[Gone Mad]

LOL @ Angle's woo!

GIMMICK INFRINGEMENT, MY ASS! CUZ I AM THE GAME!!

[Londoner]

The 'big leagues' says HHH, way too bury sd again.

[Face Heely]

I dunno...an Angle face turn? I like him as a face well enough, but he was slowly evolving back to that brilliant sociopathic heel he was against Eddie.

No response to the "big leagues" comment? Way to shit all over Smackdown once again.

[Bricktop]

:lol:

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

This is garbage, they're totally screwing Smackdown over. The brands were supposed to be different, why do they even bother to create two different identities if they're just going to move everything around completely. I'm all for some changes and new feuds, but they're just changing everything.

[Azriel]

Welcome to RAW Kurt

[PorkSoda]

Face Angle = :rofl:

[mike627]

I will bury you, Kurt in other words.

[Innovator]

Wow HHH needs to wear an undershirt

[SuperSlim]

hmmmm... that moustaches sideburn combo sucks on Triple H

[Fenix122]

WOW look at HHH's sweat stains

[Innovator]

OH SHIT

[Deceit]

O SHIT!!!!!!!!!!

[KingofOldSchool]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BUUURRRRRRN

[Face Heely]

This is garbage, they're totally screwing Smackdown over. The brands were supposed to be different, why do they even bother to create two different identities if they're just going to move everything around completely. I'm all for some changes and new feuds, but they're just changing everything.

Agreed. Angle is one of the few characters you can actually identify with the Smackdown brand.

[Innovator]

THEY REMEMBERED AN OLD STORYLINE

[V]

i hope 4 more guys i don't care about go to smackdown and Eddie, Carlito, RVD and Taker come to raw

i wouldn't have to watch smackdown anymore

[Batsu]

LMFAO!!!! Ahhhhhhh!!! Never mind.

[Azriel]

Ahh, old school memories

[mike627]

Angle Shot!

[Londoner]

LMAO@Kurt bringing that up about stephanie, i was so hoping for that!

[V]

this promo is pretty good

[Corndad]

OMG ANGLE I LOVE HIM! the steph reference was priceless

[Gone Mad]

Oh shit, Angle just went THERE. LOL @ poke at Steph!

This is gold! Finally, HHH looks awesome, cuz KIRK FREAKIN' ANGEL is on the TV with him! woo.

[KingofOldSchool]

Nice save Hunter.

[Azriel]

I knew that would come eventually

[Batsu]

I'm sorry, Angle won that one...by taking it back to Stephanie.

[owenbrown]

LOL AT KURT MAKING OUT WITH STEPHANIE BEHIND HHH'S BACK :rofl:

[PorkSoda]

Damn, when Triple H said it was hot in there he wasn't kidding.

[Azriel]

Another burn! Nice Kurt

[mike627]

angle batista!

[Azriel]

The Champ is here!

[Londoner]

HHH looked weak with his comeback on Kurts comment, i think this could be a good move because it gives competition to HHH, yet when you look deep into it, its all about screwing smackdown again really.

[V]

man kurt and hhh are sweating a lot

[SuperSlim]

it looks like Triple H drenched himself with a pitcher of wather or soemthin

[Azriel]

Wow! Trips is drenched

[Innovator]

Thank god, no more pink shirts

[Corndad]

I love Heel Angle, but Ive kinda missed Face Angle.

[Gone Mad]

Damn, man. These Olympic gold medalist and Norsemen can really sweat here.

And here is the man.... DANCE DANCE BATISTA! woo.

[KingofOldSchool]

Nice shot Batista.

[Boondock Saint]

LOL "Don't do that."

[SuperSlim]

*yawn

[Azriel]

Batista vs. Kurt should be sweet

[Fenix122]

HBK!!!

[Boondock Saint]

HBK!!

[Londoner]

Wtf, HBK?

[V]

WTF!!!

[SuperSlim]

and HBK returns

[Corndad]

HBK! WTF?

[Azriel]

HBK!!!!

[Innovator]

WTF is up with this business casual

[owenbrown]

WTF ITS HBK IS HERE

[KingofOldSchool]

THE RING HAS OVERLOADED WITH EGOS

[V]

HBK

[Face Heely]

This segment is working out well for 'Tista's character. He's not spouting bad one liners.

Oh god, HBK? The title scene's gettin' real clustered here. No wait, it looks like a HBK/Angle setup. Much better.

[Londoner]

I might just order Vengance for this re-match.

Has Raw finished over there in the US to? What a shit place to end it, in the middle of a fight.I'm well fucking pissed now.

[V]

so many main eventers in the ring, my god... REMINDS ME OF THE OLD DAYS OF 1 BRAND

[Corndad]

hbk/angle 2... Nice. This PPV gettin alot better!

[Gone Mad]

HEARTBREAK V. ANGLE 2, DAMN IT!!!!!!

THIS IS GREATNESS, DAMN IT ALL! WOO.

[Shadow]

Who said Kurt Angle to RAW?

Must Rep that person.

[Azriel]

Hell Yeah! Vengance will be sweet!

[Innovator]

4 sweaty guys in business suits beating eachother up

[Boondock Saint]

HBK/Angle and the Triple Threat match are making me consider ordering Vengeance.

The HIAC and Kane/Edge are preventing me from it.

Also I got One Night Stand.

UGH, dilemma.

[Azriel]

Great finish!

[Face Heely]

Ahhhh too many plotlines converging. I'm so confused.

But...if this leads to HHH/HBK (non-title feud) and 'Tista/Angle (for the title), it's allll good.

[V]

what a dumbass way to end the broadcast

[Innovator]

Crap, now I have to order Vengeance

[KingofOldSchool]

This is HOOOOTTTT.

A big Fuck you goes out to everyone who said Raw sucked tonight.

[SuperSlim]

I dunno this Raw was bland

[Corndad]

Who said Kurt Angle to RAW?

Must Rep that person.

That would be me.

[Face Heely]

Who said Kurt Angle to RAW?

Must Rep that person.

Pish. Couldn't've been more than 3:1 odds that it was gonna be Angle. It was a real safe guess. (Besides, it was, like, 5 people.)

[mike627]

Vengance should be worth watching just for those matches.

[Azriel]

The last 20 minutes made this a pretty good RAW. Last week was still better IMO.

[MVP]

HOLY SHIT

One hell of a RAW.

[Savio]

SD! better get like uh Orton.

[darkpower]

Angle wasn't one of my predictions, but feeling better about this one than I did for the Cena one.

Still, I'm having a bad feeling about this and how it will leave SmackDown in. I know no one but a select few give a fuck about SD on this board (it's becoming more than apparent), but they should give a fuck about SD if they don't want the WWE to become HHH 24/7. Just my opinion on it.

[Londoner]

This is HOOOOTTTT.

A big Fuck you goes out to everyone who said Raw sucked tonight.


A big fuck you goes to those who don't allow other people to have opinions different to there's.

That was the only good bit to be honest, and even the ending of it got cut off for some reason.

[KingofOldSchool]

A big fuck you goes to those who don't allow other people to have opinions different to there's.

That was the only good bit to be honest, and even the ending of it got cut off for some reason.

Did I say you can't have a different opinion? I'm just saying fuck you to the people who feel like they have to bitch over something every god damned week.

[Gone Mad]

This was good, not a great show overall, but Angle made it awesome. Cena v. Xtian v. Y2J sounds great and well, Kurt is always gold. Everything else, not noteworthy.

And now, to DL One Nite Stand. TO THE EXTREME! woo.

[Londoner]

Lmao, i c an't believe you even neg repped me for that. OH SHIT I THOUGHT RAW SUCKED TONIGHT SO I MUST BE NEG REPPED.

What fucking ever.

[Londoner]

Did I say you can't have a different opinion? I'm just saying fuck you to the people who feel like they have to bitch over something every god damned week.



We only bitch about soemthing because the WWE puts out crap most of the time, i give praise when i feel its needed, and i give criticism when i feel its needed. I thought they needed to follow up on ECW last night with something big, the ending sort of made up for it, but the rest of the show was kinda boring.

[Sepholio]

Lmao, i c an't believe you even neg repped me for that. OH SHIT I THOUGHT RAW SUCKED TONIGHT SO I MUST BE NEG REPPED.

What fucking ever.

I would rep you, but I must spread some around before I can. Other than that, I can only suggest you ignore the jackass. Apparently he just doesn't like your opinion.

[Corndad]

Anyone ever think they will make Smackdowns time into an ECW show? just a thought, why else would their 2 biggest stars be drafted already?

[Londoner]

Anyone ever think they will make Smackdowns time into an ECW show? just a thought, why else would their 2 biggest stars be drafted already?


No, because they have to censor stuff on smackdown.

[Loose Cannon]

hahaha, Smackdown is dead

R.I.P.

Vengence is stacked

[Face Heely]

Anyone ever think they will make Smackdowns time into an ECW show? just a thought, why else would their 2 biggest stars be drafted already?

Because WWE considers RAW the superior brand, and flagship show, so they want to feature their major talent on Monday night. And because they care more about "shaking things up" by making big changes than actually balancing the brands (which would require stacking SD during this draft).

[Corndad]

No, because they have to censor stuff on smackdown.

This is true now, but what if they move to another network like whats been rumored. Think about this.

[darkpower]

hahaha, Smackdown is dead

R.I.P.

Vengence is stacked
AKA...it's going to be the HHH shows before long.

[Loose Cannon]

good, so I have a reason for never waching it now

[Kane Knight]

The last 20 minutes made this a pretty good RAW. Last week was still better IMO.
It's amazing. I saw a bit of entertainment value in Triple H even.

[M. Banana]

Cena..Angle..

Who's next? Taker?

[CYCLOPTERSAURUS]

I couldn't even enjoy Raw's ending tonight, I was just thinking how they were screwing Smackdown. Then HBK came out and got a match, and I was thinking he could be sent to smackdown, but it looks like not until after the PPV at least. Why would they do this? I mean if they're intending on shafting Smackdown, why do they even bother with the draft? I mean I've been an advocate of the roster split since it started, but they aren't even trying anymore. Smackdown needs to get a bunch of huge main eventers, and Raw getting nothing but jobbers for the rest of the draft to compensate for this. But you know they won't do that, they wouldn't draft all the big names up front.

God, WWE is so stupid, and you people that want Smackdown to go under are crazy. If you want the roster reunified, this is not the way to do it. This is just going to screw everything up.

[Corkscrewed]

SD! better get Orton, or there's really no reason to just shut it down now. Or they might get Edge, but I call that for week 4 or 5.

[Corkscrewed]

(if it happens that is)

[Gouda]

What a difference one night makes.

Gone from definatley not ordering Vengeance to.... I might order it. For the HBK/Angle and the Triple Threat. Though the HIAC and Edge match make me go "blaaaaah".

That ending segment was pretty good.

Gotta love the Wooooo-wars in front of that giant woooooo sign that went around three corners of the ring.

The Jericho/Cena stuff is great. How cool would it be to have them get under each other's skin while Christian just sits back and watches? Then at Vengeance Christian steals it from under their noses. Probably won't happen.

Also, screw Austin. Cost me WWE Fantasy points, he did!

[Savio]

I thought Austin was good tonight. I'd get the 14.99 web cast if Hassan shelton was taking place.

[Savio]

I'd say instead of drafting benoit to SD! they should have done it to HHH so he can just pollute the show and get his 900 day win streak he always wanted.

[Kane Knight]

This is true now, but what if they move to another network like whats been rumored. Think about this.
IF they do what's RUMOURED and move to another NETWORK, they'd likely run into the same problem. Have you noticed that the primary difference between live live CABLE show and the taped NETWORK show is less about who shows the show (No major differences between Spike and USA), but what type of station aims it. Networks tend to be stricter.

Think about this.

[RGWhat316]

I'd say this was a pretty damn good RAW. Kurt freaking Angle is back on RAW!!!!!!!! But as much as I enjoy that, I can't help but notice how bad SmackDown is gonna be for lack of star power so far. They've been down for the last year with big stars, and now the big names they do have are going over to RAW.

But I also enjoyed RAW b/c of basically all my favorites being on in one night. Angle, Austin, HBK, and Cena. Hopefully this is a start to an Angle face turn. He's been a tweener a few times in the last few months. But hopefully he'll be able to stay complete as one type. Austin was doing alright until he whooped Hassan's ass. Wasn't expecting HBK to return so soon. And Cena is already in the middle of a program. First with Christian, now Jericho too with his heel turn.

Vengeance looks damn good right now.

[Rain Man]

Tonight's Raw is by far the best Raw in a long while. Had my attention the whole time (besides Lita who sucks) But when Kurt came out I was jumping out of my seat. What do you think the WWE is doing making Raw such a more dominate roster now? I don't get it

[mike627]

Tonight's Raw is by far the best Raw in a long while. Had my attention the whole time (besides Lita who sucks) But when Kurt came out I was jumping out of my seat. What do you think the WWE is doing making Raw such a more dominate roster now? I don't get itVince has decided to give SD the kiss of death and, I don't mean Amy Dumas. :nono:

[John la Rock]

KURT FUCKING ANGLE

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Mr. Obvious]

Raw was solid tonight, the highlight of the show being <3 Kurt Angle <3 getting drafted, of course. An absolute deathblow for Smackdown, but at least it's providing us some entertaining TV.

On a sidenote, wow, how the hell long was that Triple H/Batista HIAC preview? I'm watching the replay of RAW since I missed a good part of it earlier, and I've had time to get up from my computer seat, check the TV, go back and read a few threads, rinse and repeat three damn times, and that shit's still going on. God damn...

[Londoner]

This is true now, but what if they move to another network like whats been rumored. Think about this.


I don't really pay attention to rumours until they come true, so i wouldn't bother speculating about this just yet.It would be a bad idea imo though.

[SammyG]

WHOOOO part= RATINGS

[Ninti the Mad]

I dont even get Smackdown! so who cares.

I'd rather they unified the rosters again and perhaps extend RAW to 3 hours and bump off Smackdown to have only one show a week.

[AJHayes]

I'm going to have to say that this was officially the most disappointing night of wrestling. Coming off the heels of a hot PPV... THEY DID FUCKING NOTHING WITH IT.
Hassan/Benjamin was the highlight of the show, and I loathe Benjamin, although he is a good wrestler. Jericho/Cena vs. Captain Charisma and Tomko was fairly exciting, good to see Cena finally give 100% in the ring. For the rest of the show, it really pooped in my punchbowl. WWE had a pure friggan money PPV and they have decided to let it rot by not even making mention of it. Then they killed Smackdown, brought Michaels on TV... Snoozefest.. Slaughter/Masters... *Shudder* Why couldn't Masters just job to Sarge? At least Sarge is entertaining.

I am truely disappointed at the sorry state of WWE booking.

[The Cerebral Assassin]

Does anyone have a screen cap of that graphic they aired of all the SmackDown! superstars lined up?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Won't get to see RAW until tomorrow, but I am thrilled they're going with a Triple Threat at Vengeance. I called something like that, and if the WWE and I on the same wavelink, Chris Jericho MAY actually win at Vengeance.

I kinda like the idea of packing RAW full of talent. I think the WWE know what they're doing here, and we should just go for the ride. I can tell you right now, Eddie Guerrero, Booker T & The Big Show being added to RAW would be some seriously good stuff. I'd kinda feel sorry for JBL, Chris Benoit and co. but I think they can hold the fort for a while. Hell, even pull off a SmackDown! invasion if you want.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Maybe they'll make this into an angle where they allow the General Managers to pick one superstar at a time? WWE Champion to RAW, World Heavyweight Champion to SD!, etc.

[darkpower]

good, so I have a reason for never waching it now
You just gave me a reason for neg repping your ass, so I guess you're already starting to get your wishes.

[Gouda]

Only 69 points in the WWE Fantasy for Raw.

Why,oh why,did I put Victoria on my team. I should have known better than to think they would actually continue an angle with women wrestlers.

[Gouda]

Off air notes:

Snitsky didn't have enough: http://snitskyplay.ytmnd.com/

[Team Sheep]

I'd love Michaels to win at Vengeance to make it 1-1 with him and Kurt, and then the two can have an ultimate submission match at Summerslam as a tie-breaker. :drool:

[Loose Cannon]

You just gave me a reason for neg repping your ass, so I guess you're already starting to get your wishes.

good job guy. Your neg rep really hurt me.

[Shaved Monkey]

I'm hearing alot of people complaining about Raw not being better after coming off a huge PPV.

Can I explain something to you? The ECW PPV was entirely seperate from the running continuity of the shows. IT WAS ONE NIGHT ONLY!!! Yes, they did a bit of promotion on the shows leading up to the event, but what did you expect? The ECW guys to show up on Raw again? :lol:

There were no angles to tie up, and none to continue with.

So quit your goddamned bitching.

[Loose Cannon]

Fuck, someone has like 500+ points already. what the fuck? I'm done witht that shit. fucking fixed

[AJHayes]

I'd love Michaels to win at Vengeance to make it 1-1 with him and Kurt, and then the two can have an ultimate submission match at Summerslam as a tie-breaker. :drool:

What move is Michaels going to use as a submission hold? THE SHARPSHOOTER?!

I suppose, it has worked for him in the past. :roll:

(and imagine how hated he would be if he started using that. Canadians would try to lynch him, and hopefully succeed.)

[Team Sheep]

Ok, ok, perhaps a 30 minute iron man match or something then.