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XL
05-17-2007, 09:01 PM
About the spoilers thing...I'm as bad (or at least have been as bad) as Shaggy. I watch an ep then I'm right on the net trying to find out what's happening/going to happen.

However, I haven't read the spoilers posted here. And I don't think I would.

I's ne hing reading theories or even spoilers for other eps in the series but the finale is the big payoff...I just could't watch it knowing what was gonna happen.

I don't understand your worry about missing it. On the off chance that something does come up o that uyou're busy next Wednesday there are many options open to you...

Surely it's repeated!?
Don't abc put it on their website for US viewers/
You can download using torrents.
You can watch it on www.tv-links.co.uk (http://www.tv-links.co.uk), www.dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion) and a host of other steamed video sites.
use ee to peer for download.
Record it? Do you not have an equivelant to Sky+ over in the US are you in the US?)

At no point would my concern that I'd miss it's initial showing make me find out what's gonna happen before it even airs.

XL
05-17-2007, 09:03 PM
I gotta be at work at 3am tomorrow...Ill Tivo it and check it out when I get home..
There you go, you have TiVo. Set it to record next weeks eps if you're worried something might keep you from it

Shaggy
05-17-2007, 09:17 PM
There you go, you have TiVo. Set it to record next weeks eps if you're worried something might keep you from it

my tivo doesnt always work right...I dont change the channel on a normal basis with my Tivo unless I need to record something....usually I just change stuff with my cable box...because both dont respond that well I might tell it to record channel 06...and the six doest register so the channel doesnt even change.

Instead of getting what I want to record I get something else recorded under that name on a different channel..

Shaggy
05-17-2007, 09:20 PM
And to be completly 100% honest....the reason I read the spoilers is because I want to know what happens. I cant wait a week or how ever long it is...I just simply want to know right then. Sorta like when you are a kid and you know your parents have a gift for you. You can either wait and find out on Xmas or you can find different ways to try to find out what it is....Im the one who tires to find out what it is...

wwe2222
05-18-2007, 07:53 AM
is the pearl the one where eko and locke first found underneath ekos brothers place crash??
I forget all the techinal names for them

The Pearl: Viewing station, where the yellow plane was on top of

The Swan: where Desmond was for years and where the button was

The Flame: Communications station, Mikhail's station

The Hydra: On the other island where Jack was kept

The Arrow: Tail section losties come across this in the "Other 48 days" flashback

The Door: Fake Dharma station in the fake Other's village, seen in season 2 finale

The Staff: Medical station

Looking Glass: Underwater, etc.

wwe2222
05-18-2007, 11:09 AM
also...

Richard will be playing the Mayor in the next Batman Movie (Dark Knight)

http://batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html

Impact!
05-18-2007, 11:33 AM
Great ep, can't wait for the final ^_^ .

Quick question though is their one or two more eps to go, because if theirs only one (spoilers in black) What happened/happens to the ep about the Flash Forward (End Spoilers)?

wwe2222
05-18-2007, 12:10 PM
there is one more episode left that will be 2 hours long

Boondock Saint
05-18-2007, 06:54 PM
The Arrow: Tail section losties come across this in the "Other 48 days" flashback



Ah yes. Keep forgetting about this one. Still would like to know the purpose, if any, that it used to serve though.

wwe2222
05-18-2007, 08:59 PM
Ah yes. Keep forgetting about this one. Still would like to know the purpose, if any, that it used to serve though.

well the guy who recruited Ben and his father to the island had the arrow logo on his jumpsuit with the word "mathematician" under it...maybe some sort of math experiments pertaining to the numbers

CharismaInjection
05-20-2007, 10:35 AM
Looks like the finale should be an amazing ep. The action looks to be on a much larger scale compared to last years.

Most looking forward to the conclusion to the Charlie - Desmond storyline.

Avenger
05-20-2007, 07:35 PM
Fucking great episode.

Looking forward to the season finale now but won't see it until Sunday on sky one.

Dave Youell
05-21-2007, 04:12 AM
Great ep, like what's already been said, it really makes you want to care about Charlie, which I haven't done in ages.

Can't help thinking that Desmond will try to save Charlie as he's got 2 folks with guns on him right now, can't see how he's going to get to the button on his own.

What's with the total lack of Sawyer though? He should of been a gun man surely.

I did like that when Jack took everyone to show them that Russo had dynamite that he only took the cool people, heck Claire left her baby with someone else just so she could come along, yet no one who doesn't speak was allowed to see what the plan was, yet the man who speaks little English was. Ha!

XL
05-23-2007, 10:59 AM
OH MAN IT'S TONIGHT!

Although I won't be able to download til tomoro night after work, which likely mean I won't see it til Friday!

I guess I can take solice in the fact that it's still 2 days before the rest of the UK.

Boondock Saint
05-23-2007, 11:37 AM
I CAN'T MOTHERFUCKING WAITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Jon Kano
05-23-2007, 01:58 PM
I would like to express my absolute jelousy yet ever-growing excitment for the day when I shall be watching the final. I have chosen sunday, as its when I go home to my big-screen digital TV. So until when I have see the ep, adios.

Bastards....

CSL
05-23-2007, 02:49 PM
<font color=white>Can't fucking wait. I don't think I've ever been as engrossed in anything on TV as I was in last week's episode. Gonna download this bitch tonight, get me a smoke and watch it in all it's glory tomorrow.

Bliss.</font>

DS
05-23-2007, 02:58 PM
They have really been promoting this huge surprise. I know at least two of the cast members said they were practically speechless when they heard about it. That alone is making me excited for tonight.

Blue Demon
05-23-2007, 08:29 PM
Tonight's ep is pretty crazy...enjoy!

RBM
05-23-2007, 10:56 PM
OH. MY. GOD.

What the fuck? What in the fuck did I just watch? Seriously.

ClockShot
05-23-2007, 10:58 PM
I gotta sleep on this. I'll have a response to this sometime tomorrow.

Dragon
05-23-2007, 11:00 PM
Don't even know what to say after that. Such a crazy finale, so much going on.

A ton of questions now. No idea what will even happen next season.

Lock Jaw
05-23-2007, 11:05 PM
RIP Charlie. Even though we knew he was gonna die... I was kinda hoping he wouldn't. I was kinda hoping that he would have just SWAM OUT THE WINDOW too. Looked like he could have fit.

Also, I laugh at how every episode Mikhail is in he gets beaten to a bloody pulp or killed and is fine like five minutes later.

So... that "flashback" actually turned out to be flashforward, right? Because if it was a flashback it would make absolutley zero sense.

RBM
05-23-2007, 11:06 PM
What they did is pretty unfair. They come up with one of the craziest plot advances ever and now we have to wait 8 months to see what happens next.

Dragon
05-23-2007, 11:13 PM
How many more seasons were planned? I forgot what was confirmed. Don't have any idea what could happen in the next couple of seasons.

Spoilers obviously -







I don't really like knowing that at least two people get off the island. I dunno, pretty crazy knowing how part of it could end. So many questions though. Jack kept talking about his dad in the "future" or whatever, is that just showing how out of it he was or what? Who was Kate talking about when they were off the island. And who was the person that died and the funeral Jack went to? Just crazy, like so many ridiculous things to think about.

RBM
05-23-2007, 11:24 PM
3 more seasons of 16 episodes each. February to May.

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Yeah, it's fucked up. Why would they cut to the future? They better pull one hell of a storyline out of their ass to support the finale.

Why would he tell the new chief to to check on his father? I'm guessing Kate was talking about Sawyer. I'm guessing the funeral was for Locke. I can't think of anyone else who would have absolutely noone show up for their funeral. Why would he feel that them leaving was wrong down the road? Does this mean we're going to see the rest play out with the rest of the seasons despite knowing how it's going to end up? Crazy ass show.

wwe2222
05-23-2007, 11:27 PM
wow...thats all I can say

there is still so much to be answered on the Island...I wonder if flashforwards will be more frequent next season.

My mind is fried trying to figure this out.

Also, the name of the funeral parlor is apparently an anagram for FlashForward

DS
05-23-2007, 11:32 PM
They've been one to tease the future being one thing and changing it so I'm holding out a little hope that this is one of those times. Give the audience a glimpse of what would happen and then change it to something else.

Probably won't happen, and if it doesn't I won't be disappointed, but giving up "the ending" feels really weird when there are 3 seasons left.

Dragon
05-23-2007, 11:33 PM
Spoilers -













Yeah, this episode was just mind blowing. Like its making me think of so much. Just don't know where they could possibly go for three more seasons.

With Jack talking about his father, the only thing I could think is to show how crazy he was going. But who really knows with this show. As for Kate, yeah Sawyer was the only explanation for that.

I don't understand why the funeral seemed to be held in a black neighborhood. And you gotta assume some get off the island but leave others behind or something. Also, why didn't Charlie run out of the chamber and shut the door lol, seemed entirely possible to just do that.

Matthew Fox was great in this episode, his acting was brilliant the whole finale.

I just really don't know where they could go from here.

Dragon
05-23-2007, 11:36 PM
They've been one to tease the future being one thing and changing it so I'm holding out a little hope that this is one of those times. Give the audience a glimpse of what would happen and then change it to something else.

Probably won't happen, and if it doesn't I won't be disappointed, but giving up "the ending" feels really weird when there are 3 seasons left.

I just hope the writers have an idea about the next 3 seasons. It just seems like showing that ending changes the feeling of the show a bit.

DS
05-23-2007, 11:40 PM
I just hope the writers have an idea about the next 3 seasons. It just seems like showing that ending changes the feeling of the show a bit.
Yeah that's definitely the feeling I'm getting. When I first saw it I was really excited about it and liked it, but now thinking back on it...kind of changes the feeling of the show big time.

Always wanted to get the answers to the small questions along the way and then the big answer at the end. Hope this turns out well.

RBM
05-23-2007, 11:52 PM
I highly doubt they're just throwing the show's plotline away considering the show was built around alot of questions answered with more questions and real answers that take a long time to actually answer.

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What bugs me is Locke. The island takes the form of Walt and tells him that he needs to get up and that there's work to do. He kills Naomi with a thrown knife. Fine. Great. But then he just lets Jack pick up the phone and make the call. I'm guessing that was exactly what the island didn't want him to do and we find out that it isn't Penny's boat and that what Ben says about them is probably true. Why did he just let him do it? Why wasn't there any sign of the monster? Gonna have to wait so long to find this stuff out.

Dragon
05-24-2007, 12:06 AM
Yeah, I really didn't understand that part at all, didn't really make sense. There are so many questions to be answered though like the whole Jacob thing. Can't wait until next season, gonna be far too long to wait.

I kind of get the feeling The Others and the main group will team up or something along those lines against the others on that ship. Still kind of clueless as to where they might go with this though.

Boondock Saint
05-24-2007, 04:24 AM
Holy shiiiiitt hot stuff.

Great finale with a kickass WTFFFFF ending.

Sawyer killing Tom (even though I liked Tom) was nice and Sayid breaking that dude's neck. :love: Des with the spear gun.

:y:

ClockShot
05-24-2007, 08:14 AM
Unbelieveable. Had a hard time getting to sleep last night with all the questions. So here goes.

So Jin is your man for a fist fight, but he can't shoot straight for shit. I'm sitting here going "ah, come on."

Sawyer is back. No doubt about it. Kinda getting sick of Hurley/Hugo. How the hell did he just go off and get that damn bus, and hammer down to the beach?

OH MY GOD at Malcolm David Kelley. Did that kid grow and put some years on him or what? Hope he comes back next season and fucks around with Locke's head some more.

Why are all the hot women getting killed off? First Maggie Grace, then Michelle Rodriguez (well she got in trouble off set), "supposedly" that girl with Rodrigo Santoro, and now Marsha Thomason. I wish a fresh face would drop in and stay awhile. :(

Also, I laugh at how every episode Mikhail is in he gets beaten to a bloody pulp or killed and is fine like five minutes later.

Why is it that nobody can just put one in the head anymore for good measure? That's like what, the 5th or 6th time he cheated death. I lost count.

We'll miss you Charlie. I agree he could have probably swam out and changed his fate. But, he decided to run with it. But gave probably the most important info. "Not Penny's Boat". :wavesad:

Alex and Rousseau. Reunited. I guees it feels so good.

And finally. A glimpse of the future. Jack was ready to kill himself, but turned out to be a hero. Life I guess is falling apart for him. Maybe everyone gets off the island, maybe not. In the end, he hooks up with Kate who almost looked like Kelly Ripa in the dark. Who apparently is dating someone. Sawyer might be the obvious choice.

Spoilers down below.












Almost had my prediction on Locke pegged. Instead he's still beat up and kills Naomi. But he could still throw a hell of a knife. I wonder who is on the boat? Government, some science team, pirates:roll:. Only time will tell. I'm still not dead set on Juliet's allegence. Sure she gave Jack all that info, but not taking Sawyer to the guns. Something is still up. Other than that, bring on next season.

Shaggy
05-24-2007, 12:54 PM
The Part with Mikhail was my favorite part of the whole finale....that final scene with him just had me busting up laughing...

Toms end was my second favorite part of the episode...

It was a prett bland episode...I actually liked the last episode more then I liked this one......

Here is what I think.....The funeral Jack was at was for Ben....perhaps he gets off the island also (notice how Kate said "Why I would I go to that?" with anger. She must hate who ever it was for which can only leads to Ben, pluse no one was there and Ben had no one. ALso I think the "he" Kate was speaking of is Sawyer, so I assume that he will get off the island also.

What I would like to see is in the second season coming up they actually get off the island in the finale, and then from there on it shows them in the outside world for the final episode. ...or some siht like that...hell...or perhaps have Jack and Kate leave...and then have to come back at the end of the series finale to help the gang..

Blitz
05-24-2007, 05:14 PM
I don't really like knowing that at least two people get off the island. I dunno, pretty crazy knowing how part of it could end.
What makes you think what we saw was necessarily "the end"? Just because some of them might get off the island for some amount of time, that doesn't make it the end.

Also, for some reason, I feel like the funeral was Sawyer's.

Blitz
05-24-2007, 05:15 PM
8 months :(

Blitz
05-24-2007, 06:19 PM
Pic of the obituary:

http://bp0.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RlUe-1YihSI/AAAAAAAAFkw/ucINFuG1jfo/s1600-h/newspaperclipping2.jpg

Ben Rodrigues
05-24-2007, 07:27 PM
"J...antham?" who the hell is that?

DS
05-24-2007, 07:32 PM
Also, why didn't Charlie run out of the chamber and shut the door lol, seemed entirely possible to just do that.
He wouldn't have been able to seal it shut and, in turn, would have ended up killing Desmond too.

Looks like John Locke from the clipping but seems to have a different last name.

Ben Rodrigues
05-24-2007, 07:46 PM
or James Ford... with a different last name. I guess :/

DS
05-24-2007, 07:49 PM
Looks like a "Jo.." to me.

Ben Rodrigues
05-24-2007, 07:59 PM
Maybe it's someone who hasn't shown up yet...

Impact!
05-25-2007, 12:58 AM
Spoilers *

For some reason I think it was Micheal's funeral. It would explain why it was a black neighbourhood and why no one else turned up (He pretty much screwed em all over).

Smitty
05-25-2007, 01:01 AM
Did anyone else notice that Jack's ex-wife was pregnant as well?

DS
05-25-2007, 01:14 AM
It would be funny if it was Sawyer's baby.

Reavant
05-25-2007, 01:16 AM
with Sawyer's baby! dun dun DUN!!!!!

Reavant
05-25-2007, 01:17 AM
DAMNIT DS!!!!

Boondock Saint
05-25-2007, 01:22 AM
Spoilers *

For some reason I think it was Micheal's funeral. It would explain why it was a black neighbourhood and why no one else turned up (He pretty much screwed em all over).

I don't think you have to spoiler that since it's simply speculation.

XL
05-25-2007, 07:35 AM
Man I am tired!

As usual Thursday is my night for Lost, however, I had to take different means to get to it.

As I stayed at my girlfriend's on Wednesday I couldn't get the torrent running so that it would be done when I returned from work. So having got in the house at 9:30PM I started the torrents...636 hours for completion!!!

Now I know torrents never take as long as they say they do but i couldn't take the risk, so, off to tv-links.co.uk to watch the streamed vids. Too much buffering, but finally got about 35 mins into the first half when...IE crashes!

In the words of Darth Vader...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Anyhow I eventually finish watching around 3 in the morning and WOW!

My thoughts are as follows...


Charlie
Seems to most that he had at least 2 chances for survival. Either wait til the small room floods and then swim through the port hole OR just bale.

Now someone above me said that would have resulted in the death of Desmond, but realistically it wouldn't have. Think how long it took to fill the small room, there's no way the whole station would have flooded quickly enough to drown them.

Both Charlie and Desmond would have had time to dive and swim to the surface even without the diving equipment. Charile sacrificed himelf because he believes in fate and destiny, or at the very least believes Desmond's flashes. He believes he must die to save the 815ers and so allows himself to drown.

Jack's Flashforward
Why is it that Jack is in this downward spiral? Is it simply that without the island he has no purpose. No one to lead, no problems to solve.

My thoughts were that Ben was telling the truth and that having made the call, Jack had effectively signed the death certificates of his fellow survivors. At some point he returns home and is wracked with guilt.

However, he wants to go back. That would lead us to asume there is something to go back to/for.

Naomi's People
Are they Dharma coming back to reclaim the island? I have no ideas on this other than it appears Ben is telling the truth (at least a little) given that Naomi lied. Any ideas?

Shaggy
05-25-2007, 12:47 PM
I agree with the whole Charlie would of had time to swim to the surface but this is what I think...

The vision Desmond had was Clair and the Baby getting rescued after Charlie turned off the switch and drowned....my thoughts are that perhaps he closed the door and drowned for fear that if he were to leave the hatch that it would some how change the vision and cause Clair not to be rescued.

XL
05-25-2007, 07:04 PM
As agreed above. Somewhere in that whaffle of mindspeak!

ClockShot
05-25-2007, 08:55 PM
Did anyone else notice that Jack's ex-wife was pregnant as well?

Julie Bowen gave birth a few weeks ago. I'm surprised that they didn't try to hide it or anything like that. They probably tie it into the story since we all saw that.

Pinnacle Charisma
05-27-2007, 08:45 AM
I think the funeral was ben. It would add up because ben was on the island most of his life and wouldnt know anyone outside the place. And it would also explain kates reaction as well

Ben Rodrigues
05-27-2007, 09:58 AM
That would be way too obvious for the never ending plot twists of Lost.

Dave Youell
05-27-2007, 06:54 PM
What if 'he' was actually Kate's son?

CSL
05-27-2007, 07:20 PM
What if 'he' was actually Kate's son?

<font color=white>Yeah, I thought this.</font>

Avenger
05-27-2007, 07:54 PM
Fuck. Just saw it.

Just fuck.

I have a feeling we might see a new series sooner than 8 months, people will lose interest in such a long period of time. 8 months?!

Pinnacle Charisma
05-27-2007, 10:13 PM
What if 'he' was actually Kate's son?

Yeah i thought that too. But the thing is with that is kates son would have to be at least 3 or 4 years old to wonder where his mum is. For some reason i dont think the creators would flashfoward that long in the future.
I just thought it might have been a few months or something

XL
05-28-2007, 07:50 AM
I'm sure I read that the flash forward was to present day, so 2007. Depends when they got off the island I guess.

They crashed on September 22nd 2004 and have been there for 3 months or so. If Kate is pregnant now and the flashforward is based in 2007 that leaves a gap of about 2 and a half years. Plenty of time for a baby to have been born and to be aware of it's surrundings (i.e. to miss it's mother).

I'm not completely convinced she was talking bout a son though.

Reavant
05-28-2007, 02:16 PM
Kate as a son?

Jon Kano
05-28-2007, 02:56 PM
It is possible she is pregnant in the timeline of when they were about to get rescued since she and Sawyer fucked, mens sperm is like 500% or something increased and yeah, its possible.

Or I read it wrong and you are suggesting Kate is going to or has played a son, which by the laws of nature can't really be possible unless they throw in a stupid transsexual storyline.

I would just like to point out I have now seen the finale and will report back soon with my thoughts. Fucking loved it though.

Avenger
05-28-2007, 05:54 PM
You don't have to, really :y:

Slow
05-28-2007, 06:47 PM
Spoilers!




i'm thinking season 4 starts with desmond looking off camera, and he's just had one of his future visions - what we saw - and so events go from that.

There's no way they'd show a fixed ending at the half way point. Not that it matters, most of us will forget this scene by series 5!

I thought the coffin would be for julliet, since jack was really upset and he only cared for her and kate... till i saw the newspaper clipping - has to be locke, since he'd drop his father's surname now he's dead, and the show bosses seem to be building him up, especially since he can hear jacob

Since most of the other's shooters are dead, naomi's people must be the new bad guys

The black mist that killed eko and brought down the plain, i think that's jacob

XL
05-29-2007, 09:55 AM
Or I read it wrong and you are suggesting Kate is going to or has played a son, which by the laws of nature can't really be possible unless they throw in a stupid transsexual storyline

Kate as a son?
:wtf:
Are these comments in relation to what I posted? Cos if they are i don't understand. If they're not, then it makes sense that I don't understand.

Rob
05-29-2007, 01:06 PM
Funeral will be for Ben or Jacob. Purely basing this on when Jack was asked if he was a friend or family of the person in the coffin and he said "neither".

Think the line about bringing his dad back to see if Jack if more drunk than he is was just a line to confuse people into thinking he might still be alive. Jack was probably just saying it because he knows they can't bring back someone from the dead.

Avenger
05-29-2007, 01:15 PM
Although thinking back to the coffin being empty when Jack landed on the island, did they ever find his Dad's body?

Because I just have this feeling his Dad could be one of the guys behind Dharma along with Penny's dad etc.

Jon Kano
05-29-2007, 02:25 PM
Because I just have this feeling his Dad could be one of the guys behind Dharma along with Penny's dad etc.

WOW did you come up with that all alone or did you just re-phrase something everyone has said at one point for like ages?

Mr. Widmore is already known to be linked to DHARMA since on TLE and other associated links, his company, Widmore Industries along with Paik Industries are known contributors.

Not really new thinkin there.



You don't have to, really :y:

Im posting it later tonight, so if you don't wanna read it, then, I guess, er, don't?

Avenger
05-30-2007, 07:07 AM
Okay

XL
05-30-2007, 12:11 PM
lol you guys.

I tell you what Kano, when you post this thing later it had better not have ideas or theories that I've read anywhere before or you'll be a big bloody hypocrite!!

Jon Kano
05-30-2007, 01:30 PM
Yeah sorry had a bit of a crisis last night. TONIGHT my thoughts...

And with regard to what I said, there is aline between shared theories, and then blindingly obvious links that can be made. The previous post is a case in point.

XL
05-30-2007, 01:51 PM
Well as I said, as long as there are no crossover theories in your thoughts it'll be OK!

Avenger
05-30-2007, 02:42 PM
CRISIS

packt up
05-30-2007, 04:42 PM
This finale blew my mind. Into little pieces. Now I'm messed up.

Thing is in 8 months I might not care so much. :meh:

Avenger
05-30-2007, 09:05 PM
BTW for all the people who keep laughing about Mikhail always getting his shit kicked in etc. etc. You do realise that he (similar to Richard who doesn't age) cannot die?

CSL
05-30-2007, 09:41 PM
<font color=white>For whoever it was earlier that said they thought they had read the flashforward was present day, it was 5th April 2007 :y:

Anyways, I was on Wikipedia the other day and noticed that on Harold Perrineau's page, it has 'Lost 2004-2006, 2008'. And I also just saw a video where the 'Hot Scoop' was that he's been offered a return as a series regular. Should be good stuff.</font>

Lock Jaw
05-30-2007, 09:50 PM
BTW for all the people who keep laughing about Mikhail always getting his shit kicked in etc. etc. You do realise that he (similar to Richard who doesn't age) cannot die?

Doesn't mean it isn't funny...

Danny Electric
05-30-2007, 09:51 PM
mikhail = the wishmaster
why he can't die :)

Impact!
05-31-2007, 12:01 AM
<font color=white>For whoever it was earlier that said they thought they had read the flashforward was present day, it was 5th April 2007 :y:</font>
Woo twas my b'day then :D

Avenger
05-31-2007, 12:14 PM
how do you know it was 5th april 2007?

CSL
05-31-2007, 12:19 PM
<font color=white>The newspaper Jack was reading on the plane. It was the LA Times from 5th April.</font>

CSL
05-31-2007, 12:23 PM
<font color=white>There are pictures around that I can't seem to find again.</font>

XL
05-31-2007, 01:04 PM
Yeah, it was me that said the FlashForward was to present day, mainly cos I read the date somewhere.

Although I don't recall the date on the paper ever being seen though.

What happened to Kano's thoughts?

Jon Kano
05-31-2007, 03:31 PM
Its here.


OK here are my thoughts on the episode and anything else…

First thing I wanna talk about is Locke. Jesus. Well the whole ‘he’s missing a kidney’ thing didn’t happen like I thought but then again it could turn out like that in the end, that he didn’t die cus the bullet didn’t have anything to hit….but whatever. I liked the fact he played a part in the end but it also shoots down a couple of things I thought, one of which was that I had this idea about the ‘good’ in people. I had this idea that only ‘innocents’ can see the Island/Jacob/real answers that’s why they abducted kids, because they are (mostly) innocent and the Others would use them to communicate with Jacob/The Island. But he killed Naomi.
<O:p
I just don’t get why he gave up so easily with Jack…he could’ve shot the radio phone or whatever but no, he just walked off with too much ease when like Ben, he knows what will happen if the Island is found. John has this communion with the Island….Boone…Walt…Dreams…Signs….its been guiding him to do thing etc but the thing I don’t get is that he has been leading a trail of destruction in his path….destroying the Swan (which ceased their communication with the outside world)….he blew up the Flame (which warned the Hanso/Dharma group that an incursion by the hostiles was present on the island) which is the main thing that has lead to the arrival of whoever it is in the final. They find out comms are down, and then an incursion has happened, they are going to send people to the Island, yet not at any point has the Island addressed this or suggested its going to call for action. Which I think means that the arrival of these people is meant to happen for something else to happen….but what?
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How easily could’ve he climbed out of the window after the water had filled the room? Or when he shut the door simply move to the other side where Desmond was standing? I tell this to people then they say ‘yeah but he wanted the premonition of rescue to be true’. But the fact is when he found out Naomi’s story was bogus, he should’ve known something was up, or just because he sees Claire getting into a helicopter, that doesn’t necessarily mean rescue. Hope Mikhail survives he is awesome. Anyway, RIP Charlie you freakin' idiot.
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I have been thinking about when Ben said back at the season two finale ‘were the good guys’ and that now its eventually going to turn out that way. And its pretty conclusive now that whatever is coming to the Island, its not going to be good. But again, if it were all so bad and lead to ‘the end’, why didn’t he take the rest of his group? Or some kind of help? He just sent them to the temple which is gonna be interesting to finally see. Maybe shed more light on the 4-toed statue.
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Obviously ‘the snake in the mailbox’ was the flashforward. Quite a lot of questions, mainly for me: who and how get off the island?, whats going on in that present time for people still on the island and people who got off? Who was in the casket?….the funeral director asked if he was friend or family, Jack said either – my first guess was Claire as he was both to her, but then we don’t know if he finds that out….and kate was like ‘why would I’, not something I could imagine her ever saying with regard to Claire. And who is HE? Who she has to get back to? Everyone is thinking Sawyer but that’s too easy. Maybe her son, but I dunno, I think its gonna be either a new character. The whole flash forward thing though….I actually get a headache thinking about it….could be an alternate timeline choice…..a Desmond vision….anything. But I do like the fact that Jack finally has that opinion about the Island, that what Locke once told him has finally come to pass.
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So yeah….now just gotta wait 9 months. Great.

packt up
05-31-2007, 04:30 PM
I actually thought he said "neither" when asked friend or family.

Jon Kano
05-31-2007, 05:59 PM
So do a lot of people but I watched the repeat last night and turned the volume up to see and I am 95% convinced it was either. But it would make more sense that he said neither in terms of how he woulda phrased it. Either way (no pun intended), it doesnt really matter at this point.

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Talk:Through_the_Looking_Glass#NEITHER_or_EITHER

CSL
07-27-2007, 09:09 PM
From ComicCon regarding season 4 and more (From Blogspot)

Comic-Con 2007 - Spoiler Summary

Thanks to all our bloggers who attended last nights Lost Panel at Comic-Con and who bought us all the live updates. I will try to make a summary of all the spoilers from last night.

- Event starts off with a clip with Michael Emerson calling the Others a "Rebel Sect"
- Also on the clip show "By the time you see this I will be dead," says M.C. Gainey).
- Voice-over: "The survival of the Island is now at stake."
- Footage of the Lost game is shown (You can see this in the DarkUFO Home page)
- Carlton says Rachel probably won't be on the Island.
- Damon says the benefits of only doing 16 episodes (versus 22) a year is they can do more ancillary "awesome" stuff.
- Damon and Carlton say don't get too attached to Richard Alpert, because Nestor Carbonell's on CBS' Cane.
- They're writing episode one, but it's still untitled
Shooting starts in four weeks.


Q&A Section

Q) Wants to know about season three's violent turn and that the powers that be to promise that the Others aren't the good guys.
No promises are forthcoming.

Carlton says they wanted a showdown, and that involved a body count.
Damon says our guys are more violent but prettier. "When Sawyer is punching you in the face, you're like, More please, you're so attractive, can you take your shirt off please?" But when Friendly does it, it's relentless violence. Says Damon, "If the violence stays intense, it will at least be perpetrated by catastrophically good-looking people."

Q) Where's Michael?
They announce here that Harold is returning as Michael Dawson, but they tell the questioner they're not talking about how or when he returns.

Q) Re: Flashbacks
Carlton says flashbacks and flashforwards are both on the show going forward. "How far forward" and "with whom" are the Q's.

Q) Will Jack and Claire find out they are related?
Carlton rings the bell on Damon, but Damon nods furiously. The crowd goes wild.

Q) Did Ben get caught by Rousseau on purpose? Did Ben kill the real Henry Gale?
Damon says he will answer one of those questions. The asker chooses the capture question. Carlton: "He got caught by accident." Damon volunteers this, regarding Ben vs. Henry Gale: "They had words."

Flashbacks/Flashforwards
They were running out of plausible flashback material, so it was time to switch gears into flashfowards. The end date allowed them the certainty necessary to add that element into the show without further antagonizing fans. Carlton: "What you saw with Kate and Jack was not the end of the show." Damon: "The show has never really been about getting off the Island...There's this whole chapter of the story that takes place off the Island." Outstanding!

Michael
Carlton, regarding poor crazy Michael, "He took some extreme actions." Michael's story is about the power of the Island to be redemptive. And this won't be a quick pop by Redemption Island; Harold is a series regular. Michael returns early in the fourth season, or so says Damon.

Q) "What questions are fans not asking that we ought to be?"
Carlton: "Who's in the coffin?" and rings the bell on himself. D.L. and C.C. ask Harold, "Who do you think is in the coffin?" Harold thinks it's the person with the teenage son...probably Locke! Damon would ask, "Who's on that freighter out there, and what do they want out of the Island?" Carlton would ask, "Okay, Kate and Jack got off the Island? Did anybody else get off the Island?"

Q) Will we get back to Libby and was she part of Dharma
Carlton: "It is our intention to get to Libby's story this year, and we think you will be happy when we finish that." Damon: "You're not barking up the wrong tree."

Q_ Will there be a Danielle flashback soon?
Damon: "There are important things going on in that story, and they have to sync up." They'll do that syncing in this season or next.

Q) A fan named Aaron asks, "Can I call the monster Cerberus?"
Damon says...On the blast-door map, C.V. stood for Cerberus Vents. "That's Dharma's name for it, maybe. Cerberus is one of it's names." Damon: "Aaron, may I call you Cerberus?" Aaron-Cerberus: The monster seems kind of seems like it represents judgment. Why did Eko have to die? Damon: The whole deal with the monster will be definitely answered. Carlton: The monster answer is "not going to be 10 seconds of blank tape."

Dharma Film
The Comic-Con exclusive clip was "discovered" in "Narvik, Norway."

The promised clip is one of the station orientation films, hosted by Marvin Candle under an alias. The footage begins with him getting his makeup done and smoothing down his Dharma labcoat. Bunnies! It's about bunnies! Bunny #15, to be specific. Marvin, who calls himself Dr. Edgar Halifax in this film, identifies it as station six, the Orchid. He says the viewer has probably realized by now that he or she is not working at a mere botanical research unit. He apologizes for making him or her lie to friends and family members about the nature of the work. He mentions something that sounds like "Kasimir effect" and mentions the "unique properties of the Island." Then there's one of Jacob's subliminal messages. It may have been some variation on "as Jacob loves you." Then there's a bunny riot. One of the station's alarms blares, Dr. Halifax/Marvin panics. There's an intercut clip of someone riding a bicycle. The clip is inserted upside-down, and the rider appears to be in the village green of Otherville...And then, amid the chaos (perhaps this is the Incident?), the filmstrip slides off the reel.

And you can watch said video here (http://darkufo.blogspot.com/)

Boondock Saint
07-27-2007, 09:55 PM
Can't waitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

RBM
12-20-2007, 11:33 PM
All the rest of you fans catch the previews for season 4 showing on ABC? Sucks that it's only going to be 8 episodes but I can't wait.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwqNXwomRyE

Impact!
12-21-2007, 03:11 AM
Sweet :D

Dave Youell
12-21-2007, 03:44 AM
8 Eps?

Does that mean the entire season is 8 episodes? Or that they only have material for 8 episodes?

I can't use youtube at work, sorry

Linkbowler
12-21-2007, 12:11 PM
They only have material for 8 of the planned 16. Unless the strike ends, S5 will be 24 eps, S6 will be 16.

RoXer
12-22-2007, 08:57 AM
I need to buy the DVDs soon.

RoXer
12-22-2007, 09:42 AM
Btw I just read this whole thread and I realized how great it was to not have the internet for 8 months. Made me totally enjoy that last half of the season on a viewer level. Like I guess once it starts back up I'll go ahead and look at the anagrams and the "OMG DID YOU SEE WHO WAS IN THE PICTURES?" and what have yous and that will be neat and all but I won't get too caught up in it anymore.

But I still wish the pregnant girl Jack's dad killed while operating on was Jack's wife. :(