Official GTA IV Thread

[The Destroyer]

Without revealing any spoilers, about how far do you have to get to unlock Integrity 2.0 with Lazlow?
If you're on the hospital/coke mission, probably not too much further.

[Destor]

This feels like a huge step back for me.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Stuck on the one where you get the coke in the old hospital and cops show up all over the place. That one's a bitch.

Wait til you get the Three Leaf Clover mission :cool:

[Disturbed316]

Ok, poll time people.

When you did the mission for francis, when you had to clear out the drug den, what did you do to Clarence when you got him cornered on the roof?

A- Killed him
B- Let him live
C- Loose Cannon

Just interested in what other people did.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Ok, poll time people.

When you did the mission for francis, when you had to clear out the drug den, what did you do to Clarence when you got him cornered on the roof?

A- Killed him
B- Let him live
C- Loose Cannon

Just interested in what other people did.

:o I didn't realise there was a choice. I lobbed a grenade at him from the other side of the roof :$

[Indifferent Clox]

You can also choose not to kill the jewish dude on the bottom story of the three jewish dudes mission. There's choices throughout this game.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Ok, poll time people.

When you did the mission for francis, when you had to clear out the drug den, what did you do to Clarence when you got him cornered on the roof?

A- Killed him
B- Let him live
C- Loose Cannon

Just interested in what other people did.

Every time that option has presented it's self, I've picked A. Fuck B.

In fact I've used the shotgun to shoot and quite often one shot is enough.

During the game I was using A as the handbrake instead of RB and also using weapons to kill people within the game.

[Indifferent Clox]

I love doing the executions

everyone should know michelle is a spy. Don't read that if you don't want spoilers!

[Blitz]

Feels like I'm reading that scene from Wayne's World where they try to get free food by pretending the speaker is cutting out.

[El Fangel]

I find this kinda funny, as Im trying to put random words in there to make a story.

[El Fangel]

everyone should know fallen angel is a huge tool. Don't read that if you don't want spoilers!


Everyone should know Clox is painfully obvious, that I knew that this was not spoiler text, and something about me.

[Xero]

Seriously huge spoiler, so awesome:

Now everyone knows you read these FA, and you just want to pester us into making these "spoilers" black.

:eek:

[El Fangel]

Ok, look at Clox post, and tell me it isnt painfully obvious its not about the game. Obviously black font is spoilers, but him making sure to point that out. It was too obvious, and Im like that is definatly about me.

and anyways, I have only read ones that I am for certain are not about the game (Cloxs and yours)

[Sepholio]

This game is fantastic. I got it at the midnight release at my local gamestop, which had a line of about 5-600 people. Had to get there like 4 hours early to get a decent place in line.

The only gripe I have is that there is way less optional/bonus activities and missions than in previous GTA games. But I understand that this is due to the jump in technology from the previous gen GTA games to this. Just as VC and SA had way more to do than GTAIII, the next game (or possibly the DLC) will obviously address this. Either way, hella fun game. In fact, I think it is time to pick up Brucie, get drunk, and go bang some broads.

Stay Alpha, bros.

[Xero]

Ok, look at Clox post, and tell me it isnt painfully obvious its not about the game. Obviously black font is spoilers, but him making sure to point that out. It was too obvious, and Im like that is definatly about me.

and anyways, I have only read ones that I am for certain are not about the game (Cloxs and yours)

You get to date Packie's sister later in the game, even though he tells you not to when you first meet him.

So, did you think that wasn't a spoiler, smart ass?

:lol:

[El Fangel]

That is most definatly a spoiler, because you want me to read it, and you can blame me, saying you put it in black font, but I still read it.

[Xero]

Not my fault you're a liar.

[Indifferent Clox]

HE thinks michelle is his grilfriend but really she's a spy for the government... sorta

kate or roman dies

yay

[D Mac]

Metallica

[Indifferent Clox]

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/GodsandEarths5/untitled.jpg

[Indifferent Clox]

kudos to who can guess what comic that is from

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Deadpool?

[Disturbed316]

Just did the mission where you had to save Roman after he was kidnapped. Fucking intense, loved what Niko was saying throughout.

[Indifferent Clox]

that was an amazing mission

and it's not deadpool, you should try and guess what story arc as well.

[Indifferent Clox]

I'll give you a hint it came out in 2004

[Boondock Saint]

Finally got this yesterday. Love it. Played Free Mode online for hours. Friends and I were just blowing the shit out of cops all night. Story is good so far too. I was worried after reading about people having issues with the controls but I haven't had a problem yet.


Gamertag is OKTUR if anyone ever wants to play.

[U-Warrior]

Snag a garbage truck, and you can climb on a bunch of shit. Most fire escapes, for instance.

[road doggy dogg]

Played this game at a buddy's for a few hours the other night... kinda makes me wanna buy a 360 lol
crossrine

[IC Champion]

Played this game at a buddy's for a few hours the other night... kinda makes me wanna buy a 360 lol
crossrine

LOL, it is the greatest game possibly ever made.

[Bad Company]

Oh man, I love this fucking game.

[Azriel]

So, question, I'm done with the "First Date" and "Bleeding Me" missions, and I'm waiting for the "Easy Fare" mission. Do I have to complete a certain number of side missions to initiate it?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Finally unlocked Manhattan. :cool:

Gotta say...my biggest annoyances so far are that:

A) Every mission I find myself having to drive halfway across the map to save my game (I turned autosave off because I like screwing around with cheats when I'm not doing missions and I don't want it to save on me and screw up)
and
B) There is ALWAYS a cop there when I steal a car. Like every time. The wanted level is easy enough to lose, especially since the cop is usually just on foot...but it pisses me off that I can't really commit a crime without getting noticed.

Aside from those little annoyances...I love this game.</font> :love:

[Xero]

Just take a Taxi.

I find the Taxi an awesome addition for when I don't feel like driving half way across the city to, for example, pick someone up or to save.

[Kane Knight]

Broke down and ordered the game. Will have it Wednesday.

[Purgatory]

I just got the game this past Friday and I am quite amazed with it.

I've read about some people having issues with vehicle control, although I haven't really found any issues. I find that driving while in 1st person is much easier all around...which is hilarious. I couldn't quite pull it off in San Andreas well enough to make it enjoyable.

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, taxis are vital for getting around the place. It really annoys me when Roman doesn't have any spare :mad:

[U-Warrior]

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/09/rumor-gta-iv-dlc-going-coast-to-coast-niko-books-ticket-to-san/

[Xero]

I'm kind of iffy on them re-releasing the old maps as-is (though I just believe that's a reference to SA). While, yeah, they were great, but the new Liberty City set a new standard for detail.

Honestly I'd rather see them re-done than re-textured and with the GTAIV engine thrown on top of it.

Overall, though, I think it's more realistic that they release the three cities than the entire map. Though this opens a new problem in "where did the rest of the map go" when you can just go between the three like their connected.

[Kalyx triaD]

They need to remake Vice City first. Miami ftw.

But most likely it'll be the surrounding land [they already coded and mapped] before they decided to make Liberty City deeper.

Yeah, people are gonna need more space. GTA is gonna sell some 120gigs.

[DS]

I'm kind of iffy on them re-releasing the old maps as-is (though I just believe that's a reference to SA). While, yeah, they were great, but the new Liberty City set a new standard for detail.

Honestly I'd rather see them re-done than re-textured and with the GTAIV engine thrown on top of it.

Overall, though, I think it's more realistic that they release the three cities than the entire map. Though this opens a new problem in "where did the rest of the map go" when you can just go between the three like their connected.
Where did you get the idea of them just "re-releasing the old maps"?

This SA rumor has been going on for a couple of days now and I'm not buying it. There have been these kinds of things in each of the GTA games so I don't see why it would be any different this time.

[Xero]

"though I just believe that's a reference to SA"

I was just addressing the idea of SA.

I honestly don't believe they'd recreate something as big as SA as only DLC anyway.

[DS]

Oh, I see. I'd need more proof then what is out there to get excited about the idea of them recreating one of the other cities but I wouldn't put it past them to fully detail the area if they were going to.

[Disturbed316]

Just done Three Leaf Clover, best mission by far.

[Indifferent Clox]

I'm sure they won't dissapoint whatever the DLC is.

[OssMan]

So, question, I'm done with the "First Date" and "Bleeding Me" missions, and I'm waiting for the "Easy Fare" mission. Do I have to complete a certain number of side missions to initiate it?Yeah, what. I have done like 3 missions and I have no idea what to do to get the next one

[Azriel]

It was pretty simple actually. Just drive to the station, the yellow marker will hopefully be there and initiate that mission. I'm having a hell of a time with that mission.

[The Genius]

i am only 35% thru it, do you eventually get to buy properties with garages later on?

[Indifferent Clox]

you don't but I won't spoil it for you.

[Xero]

You do realize that the parking space(s) outside your apartment(s) can save one car and one bike, right?

Also, spoilers concerning a property:

Not sure if you're there yet, but when you get to choose killing either Playboy X or Dwayne, kill PBX to get his apartment.

[Indifferent Clox]

or like 3 bikes or two cars depending on how you park lol

[Xero]

Ah.

I tend not to save cars so I really haven't noticed what you can get in there. All I have saved is a Cherry Popper van, lol...

[The Genius]

oh ok. thanks

[Destor]

Really dissapointed you cant buy property,

[Indifferent Clox]

it's not a major facet plus you're given everything you need i mean fallen angel is ahuge douche right?

[Extreme Angle]

I find it gay that, When you do all of stevies 30 text cars you get jack shit... A text saying "well done, your really good! Sell me some more cars!" fucking bullshit...

[Purgatory]

ok, just signed up for XBox LIVE and played a bit online tonight. Some seriously sweet stuff...though I do find it slow to start a game sometimes.

My Gamertag is RIZZOS91

[U-Warrior]

Regular Deathmatch is horrible.

Mainly because of respawning. I can't count how many times they put me in a place where there is another player stacked to the nines, closer to me than any weapon.

Sometimes get killed 4 times in a row, before I can even make it to a decent gun. Sticking to team games, from now on.

[Kalyx triaD]

Get a Sniper Rifle and climb high and out of the way.

[Indifferent Clox]

you can set respawning to far

[U-Warrior]

Get a Sniper Rifle and climb high and out of the way.

In deathmatch, the only weapons in the city are in the small area decided by the host. You can go anywhere in the city, but there are only weapons in that area. And if I could get to a sniper rifle before the ass right next to me with the ak-47 and body armor kills me.

[Boondock Saint]

Haven't even done any modes aside from Free Mode. So addicting.

[Kalyx triaD]

In deathmatch, the only weapons in the city are in the small area decided by the host. You can go anywhere in the city, but there are only weapons in that area. And if I could get to a sniper rifle before the ass right next to me with the ak-47 and body armor kills me.

In no way can the host actually plant where the weapons spawn, and I'm sorry you run into better prepared guys.

Your map tells you (and everyone else) where weapons are. Chart a course to some far off Sniper Rifle or Rocket and head out. Then return with vengence in mind.

[Indifferent Clox]

I need help with My NAT, if anyone can help this would be awesome untill then I can't really play properly

[El Fangel]

If anyone has this for PS3, My gamertag is MMFallenAngel582

[U-Warrior]

In no way can the host actually plant where the weapons spawn, and I'm sorry you run into better prepared guys.

Your map tells you (and everyone else) where weapons are. Chart a course to some far off Sniper Rifle or Rocket and head out. Then return with vengence in mind.

Dude, you are not understanding my post at all.

I don't "run into better prepared guys". It fucking spawns me 5 feet away from them. Pretty fucking hard to chart a course for a sniper rifle when you have bullets flying at you the second you spawn.

[El Fangel]

Played for the first time tonight, I fought off 3 guys repeatingly. Everytime I spawned I had to hope a car was nearby, if not, I did not bother running.

[Indifferent Clox]

Ok Like Uwarrior make sure if youa re the leader of the game you set respawn: far. if not request it. Usually the people will listen.

Also fuck turning auto aim off. it's on in tournaments, it's on in the game. It's part of it man. Fuck not using it.

[El Fangel]

Auto aim is for little bitches who cant kill me otherwise.

[Indifferent Clox]

Oh I can kill you. It's just I'd rather do it faster and move on to someone else after humping your dead corpse.

[El Fangel]

Your lucky you dont have a PS3 you little bitch. I would fucking own you.

[Requiem]

Clox, hurry up and trade in the game you assbag.

[Indifferent Clox]

My shit is working now.

[El Fangel]

Why would he trade it in?

[Indifferent Clox]

I was going to because my xbox live internet connection was being shit.

[Kane Knight]

Enjoying so far.

[Mr Regal]

I love this game.

I spent hours last night just driving around lookinh for "sweet jumps to go off".

Live is a bit of a pain in the dick sometimes though, quite a few issues that need to be ironed out. Great when you have a bunch of mates on though.

[IC Champion]

Enjoying so far.

Which means I'm safe so far.

[Kane Knight]

So far.

The game does start slow, though. I mean, it takes you like 3-4 missions just to get a fucking KNIFE. Also, it's pretty easy to escape the Police this time around.

Those are my only real complaints so far, and since they're all so fucking small, none of it's enough to make me knock the game. Though I wish they'd do a GTA where you had a full Create a character like Saints Row. It's doable. I know they have one for online, but I'd like one for the main game.

[Kane Knight]

Hot game. Interesting story. Too many mentions of "titties."

[Requiem]

I crack up every time Roman starts talking about titties. :lol:

[IC Champion]

So far.

The game does start slow, though. I mean, it takes you like 3-4 missions just to get a fucking KNIFE. Also, it's pretty easy to escape the Police this time around.

Those are my only real complaints so far, and since they're all so fucking small, none of it's enough to make me knock the game. Though I wish they'd do a GTA where you had a full Create a character like Saints Row. It's doable. I know they have one for online, but I'd like one for the main game.

I just use the cheats, I mean thats why they are there.

[Requiem]

Cheats are lame. The game is more fun without them, and is more challenging.

[OssMan]

This fucking mission with Little John where I go into some wherehouse and kill them. I can kill them, fine, but then the stupid cops show up and just rape me. Like I stood by the door and started nailing them all with a shotgun as they came in but that just got my wanted level up, then one time I was in the fucking getaway car just waiting for stupid Little John to come in and he took forever and just as I started pulling away as he was getting in the cop opened up my door and that gave me game over. How am I not allowed to drive away from that shit, they send armored cars firing uzis at me and I can run into a car during that but a cop opens up my door and alluva sudden I am busted. wtf

[El Fangel]

Spoiler bro, spoiler

[Kane Knight]

Why the Hell would I want to use cheats?

[Evil Vito]

This fucking mission with Little John where I go into some wherehouse and kill them. I can kill them, fine, but then the stupid cops show up and just rape me. Like I stood by the door and started nailing them all with a shotgun as they came in but that just got my wanted level up, then one time I was in the fucking getaway car just waiting for stupid Little John to come in and he took forever and just as I started pulling away as he was getting in the cop opened up my door and that gave me game over. How am I not allowed to drive away from that shit, they send armored cars firing uzis at me and I can run into a car during that but a cop opens up my door and alluva sudden I am busted. wtf

<font color=goldenrod>You don't have to wait for Little Jacob. You can drive around and lose the cops first and then go back to pick him up.</font>

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Catching the Wave is proving a bitch for me, at the moment.

[Boondock Saint]

I hate racing missions. Always been shit at them. Doing the No.1 mission for Brucie...failed a few times and now I have no desire to try it again.

[OssMan]

I hate racing missions. Always been shit at them. Doing the No.1 mission for Brucie...failed a few times and now I have no desire to try it again.i did this one. not really a hard chase once you get him off the highway, he just drives around in circles or something. i ended up shooting him through the back of his window.

[Boondock Saint]

No I did that. This is an actual race that you have to place 1st in. I tried shooting the competition but then it says THE RACE HAS BEEN SABOTAGED and it ends. Which is gay.

[Innovator]

you can cut corners in the racing missions, you don't need to go through the check marks

[Boondock Saint]

Hmm...I'll give that a shot. I'm also not too keen on "chasing the guy down" but I can usually do those after a few tries.

[D Mac]

Finally got past that point I was stuck on after about 6 tries.

[CSL]

lol, just noticed the clock on the wall has the right time on it. It's the little things

[Kane Knight]

LOL that's cool.

[Indifferent Clox]

Hmm...I'll give that a shot. I'm also not too keen on "chasing the guy down" but I can usually do those after a few tries.
yeah fuck those.

[Boondock Saint]

I have yet to have sex with a hooker too. I beep my horn and they just stand there or run away. Think my Niko has AIDS.

[Indifferent Clox]

i haven't had sex with a hooker either.

In game...:shifty:

[Bad Company]

Fuck, the auto target is starting to piss me off. You would of though after seeing crackdown they could of got it right.

[Indifferent Clox]

They did. People just don't know how to work it.

[El Fangel]

They did. People just don't know how to work it.

Still playing Multi-player with auto-aim on like the other 5 year olds?

[Kane Knight]

What's wrong with auto-aim? I mean, why doesn't it "work?"

Anyway, stupid question: How do I get more missions from Roman? I'm only like half done with his missions, statistically, but he's not on the map. I started doing Vlad and LJ missions, thinking maybe that was it, and I've done several Vlad missions and LJ isn't on the map anymore, either. I've also been spending time with Roman (Bowling, Darts, AMERICAN TITTIES). Do I need to do something else, or should I just "stay the course" and keep doing missions for Vlad until shit pops up?

[jcmoorehead]

Just keep doing missions, it'll pop up eventually.

[Kane Knight]

Thanks. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

[Innovator]

Yeah Roman missions usually need another mission finishes before it unlocks them.

[Requiem]

It is also beneficial to call up your friends and hang out with them once the opportunity arises, even if their icon is gone from the map. You can check your friends' fondness of you in the stats menu of the game. The higher the better, as each friend usually has a nice little perk they can give you that you can call them up and use at any time once you're to that point.

[Mr Regal]

you can cut corners in the racing missions, you don't need to go through the check marks

Never needed to cut corners. Steal a sports car or a fast bike then call brucie, the competition always have shit cars and are easily spanked...always.

Also i have the map that shows you all the secrets in the game....not a cheat either.

Juts tap in www.whattheydonotwantyoutoknow.com into any in game computer and it will take you to a special in game forum that has the location of all the pigeons and all the pervert freaks (friends). essential as finding all the pigeons is otherwise completely fucking impossible.

[Indifferent Clox]

Still playing Multi-player with auto-aim on like the other 5 year olds?
Dude that's how you play in the tournaments. Like it's the official way to play. I find it easier to actually take it off, because i can shoot different parts for maximum brutatlity.

[El Fangel]

I played a single match with auto-aim, it consisted of me trying to get close enough to lock on before the other guy, and rip him apart with no worries.

With no auto-aim, I well placed headshot is what really counts.

[Indifferent Clox]

That's because you don't understand strategy and you are playing on ps3

[El Fangel]

I dont understand strategy? Is that why I won the match? Hell I likely would have won without Auto-aim, but hell if I can why not, makes it so easy I dont have to try.

[Indifferent Clox]

It's just as 'easy' for the other guy. Duh.

also if you go to a tourney your gonna have to use it.

[El Fangel]

Yeah its easy for the other guy, but if you can kickass manual aim, then auto-aim makes the game way too easy, if I ever find enought other ps3 owners to enter a tourney with :(

[Kane Knight]

It is also beneficial to call up your friends and hang out with them once the opportunity arises, even if their icon is gone from the map. You can check your friends' fondness of you in the stats menu of the game. The higher the better, as each friend usually has a nice little perk they can give you that you can call them up and use at any time once you're to that point. Yeah, I knew that. I have Roman and Little Jacob's specials. :D

[ClockShot]

Christ. I'm on my bird hunt throughout the islands and all I keep getting are fucking phonecalls from my friends. I could be in the middle of the ocean and a call can come through.

Hope some of them die soon, it's kinda getting annoying.:mad:

[Xero]

Put your phone on sleep under options when you don't want to be annoyed by phone calls.

[Kane Knight]

Fuck. I didn't know you could kill Faustin before his missions were done. Did I just fuck myself?

[Crimson]

Ever since I started with the online play I can't go back to the actual game, lol. Eventually I will though ,I'm seeing it as practice with the racing and gun battles.

[Kane Knight]

Anyone know if there's a list online of store locations and shit?

[jcmoorehead]

Anyone know if there's a list online of store locations and shit?

Not that I can find, did you not get the map that comes with the game? That should have all the locations on it.

Side: For anyone wondering about the friends and when they are/arn't avaliable try this: http://www.gtawh.com/gta4.php?page=friends

[Purgatory]

Ever since I started with the online play I can't go back to the actual game, lol. Eventually I will though ,I'm seeing it as practice with the racing and gun battles.


Yeah, the online mode is just soo much fun. I play that for like 2 hours after work, then spend an hour on the normal game.

Free Mode sucked when I was on it this morning, though (2AM EST). Someone had it set so that everyone was invincible somehow. Me and another guy just stood there and unloaded into one another and we wouldn't die. Stupid and pointless, really. On top of that, everyone was using 'tard-speek' or something. It was just pointless babble that made no sense.

[Kane Knight]

Not that I can find, did you not get the map that comes with the game? That should have all the locations on it.

Side: For anyone wondering about the friends and when they are/arn't avaliable try this: http://www.gtawh.com/gta4.php?page=friends

Shit. I forgot about the map.

I think I have it around here somewhere.

[Indifferent Clox]

You mean friendly fire?

Free mode is awesome with friendly fire off and cops on, traffic low (or any really) ,pedestrians high. It's you v. the cops

also Traffic Parked pedestrians low or none.

You can still kill each other with cars.

[Xero]

Dodge Ball with cars with FF off is awesome. Played that for a while the other night.

[Disturbed316]

Have only played online a couple of times, seemed boring just going round killing people.

[Indifferent Clox]

Dude you can make up your own games. It's amazing. just be creative.

I like cops v. crooks and team deathmatch the most probably

[Crimson]

Deathmatch for sure..I like freemode but only if it is stacked with alot of players going at it guns blazing.

[Crimson]

Is there way to add a friend on there..or you have to add them first via the party mode or whatever else first before adding?

[CSL]

Just seen a cop take somebody else's car so he could chase me. Greatness

[Xero]

Just heard a pedestrian say "This isn't a movie, this is real life!". Made me laugh.

[Indifferent Clox]

Funny things from the game:

"THAT'S SOME VIDEO GAME SHIT!" after a massive car wreck

"The Alien's are preparing the anal probes, THEY ARE AMONG US" while shooting up some people.

[Indifferent Clox]

Also sold the game today :( but I'll get it back if I ever get my motherfucking Live Connection working again.

[Russenmafia]

Brucie has to be a contender for best GTA character ever. This Vin Diesel lookalike cracks me up and there is always entertainment when he is on "the juice".

[Xero]

OMFG SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/FA

[Kane Knight]

All of a sudden, I can't find any motorcycles.

[Bad Company]

I have to say, this game has some pretty big flaws. Starting with, the physics are rubbish.
Certainly not the 10/10 everyone makes it out to be.
Bit of fun though, I finished the Final mission last night, now to get stealing cars I guess.

[Kane Knight]

The game is insanely fun. But yeah, the physics are trash. For a game where you spend so much time in cars, you'd think they'd have a driving engine worth a shit. But still, when you enjoy a game this much, you tend to not mind the flaws. Not a 10 of 10, but I'd say 9 is fair.

What's hilarious, BTW, is that people were wetting themselves over a guy giving the game a 9.2. I haven't seen that much of a fuss over a rating since Army of 2. And this one was over a game getting a 9.2 for fuck's sake.

[Requiem]

Um.. what? Not really sure how anyone can have complaints about the engine. Yes, driving is more difficult, but it's also more realistic. Once you're used to it, it is way more fun than driving in any previous game. Each vehicle has its own physics, including noticeable suspension differences and weights/handling differences. They might have touched it up a little to lessen the complaints, but it is far from being 'trash'.

The other physics in the game are amazing. The Euphoria engine is a modern piece of technological art. Can't wait to see it expanded on even more and used in more products to be honest.

[Kane Knight]

LOL. I don't generally play GTA games, so they may have made the driving more realistic. But more realistic doesn't necessarily mean "good," And it sure as fuck doesn't actually translate to "realistic." The stopping alone should be an indication that it's not really realistic.

[DS]

I haven't noticed anything wrong with the physics at all.

[Purgatory]

This is why I've gotten used to driving in 1st person. To me, it's just so much easier control-wise. Otherwise, you have to futz about with camera angles, as it never really seems to be content with pointing in the direction you're driving. The 'Cinematic Camera' is pretty cool as you can toggle between slo-mo and regular at any given time.

Character physics are hilarious, though. I crashed a NRG-900 into the back of a car going a zillion, or so, mph. I flew off the bike and ricochetted off a street light. :-D

Currently, I've got the phone in Sleep Mode so it's not constantly ringing...started to piss me off after awhile. I've decided to find and complete all the Stunt Jumps and locate all the damned pidgeons...which is proving to be a monumentous feat. It's like I'll find them when I'm really not looking, then hear them and take forever to find them.

[Bad Company]

lol piece of modern technological art.
It's like they designed 5% of the game and filled the rest. Fences shouldn't collapse when I fall into them, and should when I hit them with a truck. This game lacks alot of polish.

Having 20 different cars with different physics is not impessive.

I quite like the driving though, didn't have an issue with that. Except the erratic changing of lanes by the cpu cars when I'm on a mission. That's dodgy as fuck. Go the first person view though! :D

[Kane Knight]

Since we're talking about crashing and shit, I had fun with a motorcycle. Roman wanted to go out to eat, so I picked him up on a motorcycle. I was speeding through the heart of the town and whatnot, cruising along on the right side of the road and everything, when BAM! I got whacked by a rescue truck going the wrong way. Head-on, up and killed my ass.

[El Fangel]

I flipped a car once, not a convertable, and with no windows smashed, and no doors open.

I fell out :wtf:

[Crimson]

lol..I love it when online I am fighting with someone and all of a sudden out of nowhere a car smashes the fuck outta me and I go flying. Or vice versa..funny as hell

[El Fangel]

Get someone to get in a car, drive at a gas station, dive out.

You will love watching this.

[Xero]

Ever try bailing just as another car is going by?

Epic.

[El Fangel]

Ever try bailing just as another car is going by?

Epic.

You mean on your driver side, oh my that would be glorious.

Jumped in frony of an oncoming Turismo at full speed. That was epic. :)

[Xero]

I love going to that police station in norther Broker and pushing pedestrians down the stairs.

Also once managed to push someone onto the subway tracks *Just* as a train was coming.

[El Fangel]

Once was ripping through town on a Zombie, came to the end of the street, and its a no-railing, then 20-30 foot drop to the ground below, once I realize where I am at, I hit the brakes, and slide right to the edge. Front wheel is hanging over.

I went from :) to :-\ to :( as the front end started to tip forward.

[Kane Knight]

Also, stop me if I'm wrong, but Euphoria isn't actually a physics engine, is it? It allows characters to act more real and interact with the environment as an organic character would, but that itself isn't a physics engine, no?

[Bad Company]

I'm not sure.
This review here sums up alot of my thoughts that I have been having about the game in one nice easy read.
http://www.thegameforum.com/video-game-news/2667-negative-review-grand-theft-auto-iv.html

[Kane Knight]

I'm not sure.
This review here sums up alot of my thoughts that I have been having about the game in one nice easy read.
http://www.thegameforum.com/video-game-news/2667-negative-review-grand-theft-auto-iv.html


I agree with quite a few of those, though most of them are minor quibbles at best. The control mapping is kind of retarded, I've gotta say, and complaints about things like cover are legit, but still minor. Especially with cover, where it's about on par with everything that's not Gears of War. The complaints about the voice acting and whatnot, are again par for the course. And is the dialogue flat and to the point or is it overcomplicated and awkward?

Also, no midmission checkpoints can be annoying, especially if it takes you five or more minutes to drive to the locales.

[Boomer]

I took a cab to nearly every mission I was allowed to. I got pretty sick of the drives around town by the end of the game.

Still enjoyed it immensely. One of those games I can imagine myself picking back up again to do the extra stuff at some point...but not now.

[Kane Knight]

And if they all allowed cabs, that would almost make up for the lack of checkpoints and shit.

Also, another little bit that bugs me. Sometimes, I'm in the middle of nowhere and I kill someone, and the cops are on me in seconds. In one of the missions, where I'm asked to snipe the guys at the Construction site, I took one of them out, and the cops were able to poinpoint where the shot had come from in like ten seconds. These are the same cops who can't find me if I duck into an alley slightly away from a crime scene, but they can poinpoint a sniper shot in seconds.

Granted, this is a flaw with damned near EVERY GAME in the genre. Hard to really single this game out for doing it.

[Purgatory]

Yeah, the cops just appearing out of nowhere really irritates me too. Especially, if you accidentally fire off, there's noone around, but they automatically pinpoint you. They should just have had them report to the crime scene and only go after you if you're still there...which you shouldn't be.

Also, shooting inside your apartment...I understand they take into account that some neighbor heard the shot. HOWEVER, you exit the building and they automatically know it was you. It's actually hilarious at the same time, but still. They're easy enough to outrun as long as you're constantly changing vehicles and they don't see you doing it.

[Requiem]

Did a quick bit of research cause I was curious. RAGE is their self developed graphics engine, and Euphoria is the physics/animation engine.

[Kane Knight]

It's manageable. It's just occasionally enough of an inconvenience to piss me off. Like once in a while when I'm on a "date" or meeting up with a friend to up my approval with him and something happens. Now I'm on the run with an actual deadline. Or in a mission. Like with the sniper mission (Or rather, the mission with a sniping part) I mentioned before, you get swarmed by the cops by the time you get back to the ground.

And with sniping, I really think the bullseye should be focused on the victim, not the shooter. I mean, if you're actually discrete. Obviously, if you pull out your sniper rifle in the middle of the Exchange and plug someone just down the street, then for God's sake, you should be busted. But if you're doing it stealthily and carefully (Not to mention, remotely), the only immediate sign should be that someone was dropped.

[Kane Knight]

Did a quick bit of research cause I was curious. RAGE is their self developed graphics engine, and Euphoria is the physics/animation engine.

Q: Is euphoria a physics engine?
A: No, euphoria is not a physics engine. euphoria simulates the human (or animal) motor nervous system on Xbox 360, PLAYSTATION 3 and PC. One can think of it as biology meeting robot control theory. euphoria integrates with a game's existing physics engine, which provides the basic body physics (commonly known as 'ragdoll physics'). euphoria adds life to the dead physics simulation. In short, ragdolls are dead, floppy bodies. euphoria characters instead are alive and adaptive.

From the developer's site.

[Russenmafia]

What is everybodies favourite radio station?

JNR for me, love the old Jazz stuff on that station.

[The Fugitive]

Varies on my mood. Either Intergrity 2.0, Liberty Rock Radio or The Journey.

[IC Champion]

Liberty Rock, The Vibe.

[Xero]

There's really only two stations I don't listen to. Everything else I'll just leave on most of the time.

As for my favorites, ditto to IC's.

[IC Champion]

I love the Barry White song on the Vibe, such sweet baby making music.

[IC Champion]

I also love how Weasel News is a parody of arch-conservatives.

[Kane Knight]

Liberty Rock.

[OssMan]

I always listen to Liberty Rock to hear them play 1979. But sometimes I do a driveby and play CLASSICS

[Purgatory]

Q: Is euphoria a physics engine?
A: No, euphoria is not a physics engine. euphoria simulates the human (or animal) motor nervous system on Xbox 360, PLAYSTATION 3 and PC. One can think of it as biology meeting robot control theory. euphoria integrates with a game's existing physics engine, which provides the basic body physics (commonly known as 'ragdoll physics'). euphoria adds life to the dead physics simulation. In short, ragdolls are dead, floppy bodies. euphoria characters instead are alive and adaptive.

From the developer's site.

Yeah, there's a roagdoll physics emulation program called Endorphin, which was used in part as well. It's one of the other tools, along with Euphoria, that falls under Natural Motion. I had a demo for it, which I found pretty cool...considering I could ever actually figure out how to use it fully. It came with some sample scenes you could manipulate, but I never really figured out how to create my own scenes. I've seen some make wrestling vids on Youtube using it, though.

[The Genius]

anyone get dumped by carmen? i scared her with my crazy driving on a date and the next day she dumped me. i tried going back online to get a date with her but no luck. i really wanted to get that special perk with her. at least i got the star removal from kiki.

[The Genius]

nevermind, just went out and did a few missions. came back to my laptop and found her available on the dating site again.

[UmbrellaCorporation]

My radio stays either on the Journey or on WKTT.

"He comes into the bedroom acting like a troll, grabbing my ass, screaming "TWO DAMAGE, TWO DAMAGE"!"

[Boondock Saint]

Must say the radio is one of my bigger dislikes of the game. But I wasn't too impressed with San Andreas radio either. I'm big into classic rock (which Smashing Pumpkins are not) and loved Vice City's radio. So either I listen to that station or usually nothing. Sometimes the hiphop station if Kanye is on.

[The Genius]

i agree, the vice city soundtrack was the best of the series. with vice city, i could listen to any of the stations and enjoy it. here with gta 4, i cant stand the russian, puerto rican, or electric stations. i have it set to radio broker or liberty rock. sometimes switch it to classic rap for a change of pace.

[Kane Knight]

I'm unimpressed with the radio. Mostly because Stevie Nicks always seems to be on when I play LCR. I like Stevie nicks, but come on. VARIETY, motherfucker.

It may be the best in the series, I don't know. I wish there were more tracks on any given station.

[BigDaddyCool]

BDC rates GTA4 10 out of 5

[Innovator]

Thanks to this game, I am convinced Bas Rutten needs his own daytimet talk show

[BigDaddyCool]

I'm unimpressed with the radio. Mostly because Stevie Nicks always seems to be on when I play LCR. I like Stevie nicks, but come on. VARIETY, motherfucker.

It may be the best in the series, I don't know. I wish there were more tracks on any given station.

I preffered the radio stations on San Andreas and Vice City. Vice City had Slayer, that is all you need to impress me. GTA 4 doesn't have any songs I liked before listening to the radio.

[Xero]

Is it me or does Lazlow's station (Integrity 2.0) have maybe four segments? It seems every time I get in the car I get the same shit. I've noticed maybe 15 minutes worth of different content, not counting commercials.

I was looking forward to Lazlow but it seems that it's a lot shorter than GTA3...

[Kane Knight]

Is it me or does Lazlow's station (Integrity 2.0) have maybe four segments? It seems every time I get in the car I get the same shit. I've noticed maybe 15 minutes worth of different content, not counting commercials.

I was looking forward to Lazlow but it seems that it's a lot shorter than GTA3...

Could just be bad luck, like my aforementioned. It's hard to tell without spending a shitload of time in cars

[Russenmafia]

Is it me or does Lazlow's station (Integrity 2.0) have maybe four segments? It seems every time I get in the car I get the same shit. I've noticed maybe 15 minutes worth of different content, not counting commercials.

I was looking forward to Lazlow but it seems that it's a lot shorter than GTA3...

I think Lazlow's station has very few segments. I have heard the same segment three times. Doesn't seem to be very long.

Bring back Chatterbox, that was Lazlow at his peak.

[Destor]

Thanks to this game, I am convinced Bas Rutten needs his own daytimet talk show
yes

[Indifferent Clox]

I don't think KK actually knows how to drive, if he did why would he be on tpww 24/7?

[Indifferent Clox]

also radio broker

[Destor]

I don't think KK actually knows how to drive, if he did why would he be on tpww 24/7?
Becuase he's a miserable human being and no one wants to around him?

[Kane Knight]

I don't think KK actually knows how to drive, if he did why would he be on tpww 24/7?

And for some reason, you keep playing the "why don't you like me?????" Card.

I'll ignore Destor, but only because I pity him for having to make up a life.

[Kane Knight]

And seriously, what kind of drugs do you have to be on to think that the driving in this game is remotely realistic?

[Extreme Angle]

Well its sort of realistic... with the engine and all that...

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Is it me or does Lazlow's station (Integrity 2.0) have maybe four segments? It seems every time I get in the car I get the same shit. I've noticed maybe 15 minutes worth of different content, not counting commercials.

I was looking forward to Lazlow but it seems that it's a lot shorter than GTA3...

I d/l'd the soundtrack :shifty: and Integrity runs about 28 minutes complete avec commercials.

[Kane Knight]

Well its sort of realistic... with the engine and all that...

LOL.

Cars have four wheels...It's sort of realistic.

[Disturbed316]

So what do you do with the cars you get after getting directions from Stevie? Found the first one but then nothing popped up telling me where to take it or anything.










whoops spoiler warning.

[Requiem]

I never said it was a fucking driving simulator. But compared to the older games, this game has a much more realistic driving engine. Each car has its own physics based on weight/suspension, and ride height, as well as center of gravity. Not to mention damage affects driving. That's more effort into realism than any other game of this type has tried to do in the past.

[Kane Knight]

Which, as I said, may be true, but it doesn't make the driving realistic.

Although with the number of people complaining about the driving, I'm more prone to believe that it really isn't more realistic, and that you're full of shit. But whatever.

[jcmoorehead]

So what do you do with the cars you get after getting directions from Stevie? Found the first one but then nothing popped up telling me where to take it or anything.










whoops spoiler warning.

Take them to the Garage in Bohan I believe.

[Requiem]

Again, I never said it was. I said it was more realistic than before. And it is. The old driving was nowhere near realistic. At all. The engine as it is now, is miles ahead of those old systems. They have taken many steps in order to make driving much closer to how it would really be and feel. While nowhere near how it would be if I really jumped in one of those cars for real and pulled a maneuver like in GTA, it is getting pretty damn close the farther through the series they go.

I'm not trying to say that a video game is the most realistic experience you're going to find, but the driving in this game is fine. If you're going to pull that 'number of people complaining' shit, then I'll go there too. Plenty of the reviews on this game mentioned the driving, and plenty of them agreed that while different it became second nature and they had no problems with it. And I am positive that I'm not the only person on TPWW who agrees with my opinion on driving. Let's just group together all the people who don't like it though and automatically assume that since multiple people share an opinion it must be right. That makes me prone to believe that you're a fucking idiot. But whatever.

[Xero]

The driving is miles ahead of the GTA3 series and I quite enjoy it, but it's still far from perfect. I could name quite a few things wrong with it (the biggest being that it's a bit too slippery) but it more than suffices.

On another topic, I'm getting pretty tired of people (not necessarily here) saying that it should have had this-or-that from the previous games. These people don't realize that GTA4 is just the base game for this generation. It was NEVER meant to have the polish and extras of SA.

If they were using the same engine, yeah, those would be good complaints, but this game, as far as I know, was built from the ground up. Sorry that they didn't spend time on adding multiple-sized Nikos and 1000 different hair styles. They were too busy trying to get the basics worked out with, for example, ragdoll physics (one of the big complaints people had from SA from what I remember) and didn't want to delay the game another year or two to get it to SA standards.

As a standalone game, it's complete. Comparing it to the third game of a different series, at which point they had perfected that gen's hardware, is just silly and unfair. By the end of this gen I'm sure we'll be seeing SA being left in the dust, with the kinks worked out and omitting the mistakes they made in the past (IE: Mandatory eating).

/rant

[Kane Knight]

Um.. what? Not really sure how anyone can have complaints about the engine. Yes, driving is more difficult, but it's also more realistic. Once you're used to it, it is way more fun than driving in any previous game. Each vehicle has its own physics, including noticeable suspension differences and weights/handling differences. They might have touched it up a little to lessen the complaints, but it is far from being 'trash'.

The other physics in the game are amazing. The Euphoria engine is a modern piece of technological art. Can't wait to see it expanded on even more and used in more products to be honest.

In retrospect, LOL!

[Kane Knight]

The driving is miles ahead of the GTA3 series and I quite enjoy it, but it's still far from perfect. I could name quite a few things wrong with it (the biggest being that it's a bit too slippery) but it more than suffices.

I can name a major one. Cars turn while using the brake. Actually, there's two, since cars don't stop very well in this game, either. I wouldn't mind if I was unable to do an appropriate corner if I was going flatout, but everything moves like weighted by a few extra tons when it comes to stopping. Magically, it's as though someone dropped four tons of weight on my front end.

I dunno. I don't expect complete realism, but it would be nice if I could experience some realism when doing anything other than driving in a straight line or crashing.

[Mr Regal]

shut up

[Bad Company]

Yeah, the deal with the morotbikes turning when you lock up the brakes is fucken gaylord. Especially when you're trying to chase someone

[Bad Company]

Yeah, the deal with the morotbikes turning when you lock up the brakes is fucken gaylord. Especially when you're trying to chase someone

[El Fangel]

I take back most of what I said bad about the game expect the motorbike thing, and the radio stations, elsewise its bomb.

I can powerslide so fucking well now, Its not funny.

[Bad Company]

Also, not being able to get onto the motorbikes after you've fallen off killed me in a few missions, made me so fucken mad.

[El Fangel]

Protip: Never ever transport someone for a mission on the back of a motorbike, in fact stay off the fucking things altogether.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Also, not being able to get onto the motorbikes after you've fallen off killed me in a few missions, made me so fucken mad.

I'm assuming you absolutely totalled the bike? 'cause I've come off doing chases and managed to get back on and carry on no problem.

[Kane Knight]

The controls are stupid and won't always recognise the bike. The lost seconds can really hurt.

[Kane Knight]

shut up

Good comeback. Put a lot of thought in it, did you?

[Kane Knight]

Protip: Never ever transport someone for a mission on the back of a motorbike, in fact stay off the fucking things altogether.

Why? Because you suck at them, or is there a real reason? The occasional flight is no worse, really, than a crippled car bursting into flames.

[Bad Company]

The controls are stupid and won't always recognise the bike. The lost seconds can really hurt.
YEAH

[Kane Knight]

It's especially bad if the game decides you were going after a moving vehicle or some shit.

[Mr Regal]

Getting back on a bike has never been a problem, getting in the right car when you have caused a crash can be though....a small annoyance though.

I don't give a shit if the driving is realistic or not....it's grand theft auto not gran turismo.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

YEAH

Oh I seeeee. Well that I can agree with. Although, in some of the chase missions, if you can just stay within a reasonable distance of the target and just concentrate on not crashing then eventually they will crash at a set point. Doesn't always work though - generally if you can get within a few feet then you're going to have to take care of things yourself. Or hope there's another crazy driver on the road.

[Kane Knight]

On another topic, I'm getting pretty tired of people (not necessarily here) saying that it should have had this-or-that from the previous games. These people don't realize that GTA4 is just the base game for this generation. It was NEVER meant to have the polish and extras of SA.

If they were using the same engine, yeah, those would be good complaints, but this game, as far as I know, was built from the ground up. Sorry that they didn't spend time on adding multiple-sized Nikos and 1000 different hair styles. They were too busy trying to get the basics worked out with, for example, ragdoll physics (one of the big complaints people had from SA from what I remember) and didn't want to delay the game another year or two to get it to SA standards.

As a standalone game, it's complete. Comparing it to the third game of a different series, at which point they had perfected that gen's hardware, is just silly and unfair. By the end of this gen I'm sure we'll be seeing SA being left in the dust, with the kinks worked out and omitting the mistakes they made in the past (IE: Mandatory eating).

/rant


I never buy this. It's ridiculous to say that it's acceptable to have major steps back because they were doing X or Y.

Also, it really cracks me up, because the "Ground up" argument is brought up so often, and almost 100% of the time, it's not true.

[Kane Knight]

Getting back on a bike has never been a problem, getting in the right car when you have caused a crash can be though....a small annoyance though.

I don't give a shit if the driving is realistic or not....it's grand theft auto not gran turismo.

I'd settle for "doesn't suck." But then, I expect to hear a response of "I don't care if it's good or not. It's Grand Theft Auto, not Good Theft Auto."

"Realistic" seems to be a euphemism for "crappy," and an excuse for a poor driving engine. Saints Row had one that made for a fun game without being either horribly cartoony or realistic. I don't see why I should accept a shitty driving engine based on someone else's argument that it's improved and more realistic.

The problems I pointed out as unrealistic? Yeah, they also make for a bad driving engine.

[Kane Knight]

Oh I seeeee. Well that I can agree with. Although, in some of the chase missions, if you can just stay within a reasonable distance of the target and just concentrate on not crashing then eventually they will crash at a set point. Doesn't always work though - generally if you can get within a few feet then you're going to have to take care of things yourself. Or hope there's another crazy driver on the road.

Honestly, if you have to crash someone, I'd stay away from a motorcycle anyway. Unless it's a mission where they'll crash themselves. I mean, you can shoot at them, but on a bike, ramming them to crash them or even just to screw them over is suicide.

I actually prefer the bikes, but mostly because I prefer the philosophy of maneuverability. It's easier to escape when you can drive on tight sidewalks and through narrow alleys, but when it comes to actually stopping someone, it's not as good. The keeping up part is fine....

When it comes to simply chasing someone down, I'll use a bike. Like the Puerto Rican Connection, or whatever it was called. It was easier for me because I was less worried about any traffic that wasn't potentially a sideswipe.

Plus, they handle a little less like ass. Not a whole lot, but enough to make a difference.

I know you're fucked if you get hit, but my general philosophy is not to get hit in the first place. It's bad Aiki.

[BigDaddyCool]

BDC is kinda pissed because something always happens that takes me away from playing GTA4. X-Box breaks, cat dies, roof leaks, it is always something. :grumpy:

[BigDaddyCool]

What the fuck, there isn't a grumpy smilie?

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Honestly, if you have to crash someone, I'd stay away from a motorcycle anyway. Unless it's a mission where they'll crash themselves. I mean, you can shoot at them, but on a bike, ramming them to crash them or even just to screw them over is suicide.

I actually prefer the bikes, but mostly because I prefer the philosophy of maneuverability. It's easier to escape when you can drive on tight sidewalks and through narrow alleys, but when it comes to actually stopping someone, it's not as good. The keeping up part is fine....

When it comes to simply chasing someone down, I'll use a bike. Like the Puerto Rican Connection, or whatever it was called. It was easier for me because I was less worried about any traffic that wasn't potentially a sideswipe.

Plus, they handle a little less like ass. Not a whole lot, but enough to make a difference.

True. I try to stay away from the Sanchez and PCJ because they're made of tinfoil or something. Zombies or the other chopper types are all good though.

[Xero]

I never buy this. It's ridiculous to say that it's acceptable to have major steps back because they were doing X or Y.

They didn't take major steps back, though. Everything they did was a major step forward, all they really did was leave out some of the more in-depth (and mostly annoying) roleplaying aspects and made the scope of the map smaller than SA. Other than that it's an improvement in every aspect of the game.

I'm talking about the petty compaints like planes, (which obviously wasn't a technical issue), tanks, crazy shit (parachutes for example) and a lot of character customization being left out (the latter of which I do admit they could have done more with, but the extent SA had was just ridiculous).

[Destor]

Getting back on a bike has never been a problem, getting in the right car when you have caused a crash can be though....a small annoyance though.

I don't give a shit if the driving is realistic or not....it's grand theft auto not gran turismo.
This is the correct answer.

[D Mac]

Spoilers below:


So for those that did the mission, who did you kill? Playboy X or Dwayne?

I killed X and took his pad.

[Xero]

PBX

I mean, the game was obviously pushing you there anyway. He so deserved it. But now Dwayne won't leave me alone because I don't go out with him.

[MCEazy]

Playboy X
Whats worth more: 25,000 and being ignored or a pimpass safehouse?

[Destor]

If Dwayne becomes a buddy don't you get something if he likes you enough?

[Xero]

Yeah, you get a gang to come with you and back you up.

Not sure if you can get something from Playboy.

[MCEazy]

i'm fairly sure its just the 25,000 from PBX, then he wont ever answer the phone when u try to call him

[Disturbed316]

I killed Dwayne, didn't like the cut of his jibe.

Also, poor random man Jeff. I was actually really shocked when he kicked the bucket. At least he left lots of money for me to pick up :(

[D Mac]

Which guy is it that you can call him up and he delivers guns to you? Little Jacob?

[Russenmafia]

Which guy is it that you can call him up and he delivers guns to you? Little Jacob?

yep, call Little Jacob and get reduced price ammo.

[El Fangel]

Shit, I have to up my hang-ups with LJ, I think he hates me right now. :(

[Purgatory]

Lately, I really haven't been doing anything Mission-Essential. I've had my phone in Sleep Mode so I don't keep getting calls, especially while Pidgeon Hunting.

[OssMan]

wtf Distributed316, just started that thing with Jeff. Oh well.

PS take Little Jacob to Cluckin Bell. He freaking flips out when you take him there

[El Fangel]

WTF Assman, I was just driving him there thanks for the spoiler asshole :rant:

[Destor]

Stop coming in the thread then. Damn.

[El Fangel]

Meh, Its getting spoiled for me little by little, so I dont care as long as people dont post huge plot spoilers im cool with it now.

[Disturbed316]

whoops spoiler warning

[Kane Knight]

BDC is kinda pissed because something always happens that takes me away from playing GTA4. X-Box breaks, cat dies, roof leaks, it is always something. :grumpy:Haha

True. I try to stay away from the Sanchez and PCJ because they're made of tinfoil or something. Zombies or the other chopper types are all good though.

I usually drive Freeways.

Spoilers below:


So for those that did the mission, who did you kill? Playboy X or Dwayne?

I killed X and took his pad.


X. I wanted that crib more than money. Plus, they both annoyed me, bu X annoyed me more. Now Dwayne's all emo on my ass, though.

Also, I just lost points with Little Jacob. Apparently, I hadn't called him in a while? :wtf:

On top of that, what's with these text messages? Kiki and Alex will text me to tell me to call them and take them out, then when I do, immediately, they tell me they don't want to for some reason. Brucie calls me every thirty seconds if my phone's not on sleep...Grrrr.

Also, can you ever "score" with Kate? I keep "trying my luck" after taking her out to see if anything happens between Niko and Patrick, but so far, nothing.

While I'm on the subject, you ever notice the lines Kate gives? It's funny hearing her compliment Niko's nice new car, then complain about the life Packie and Niko lead...Where do you think he got the car? :D

Dealing with friends is easier once you're in Algonquin, though, and have three million cabs surrounding you....

[Kane Knight]

Also, who's played around much with the Police Computer? I've "Cleaned the Mean Streets" and wiped out all the most wanted in Algonquin...There's a conveniently located set of Police cars just south of your safehouse. Hell, there's also the car dealership nearby if you want to impress one of the self-absorbed bitches you have to date for benefits. Haven't done it for the other islands yet, though.

Something about gunning down criminals is fun, though it's irritating when the cops get on your ass.

[ClockShot]

MOTHER FUCKER! I MISSED A BIRD SOMEWHERE!

[MCEazy]

MOTHER FUCKER! I MISSED A BIRD SOMEWHERE!

lol that must suk, u at 199?

[ClockShot]

Yup. I think I missed it somewhere on Alderney, or S.O.H.

[Xero]

End Spoilers:

So, which way did you go? Worked with Pegorino or revenge on Dimitri?

I went with revenge mainly because I read a spoiler in EGM and didn't want Roman to die. I only took Kate out once.

For those who don't know, killing Dimitri gets Kate killed at Roman's wedding. Working for Pegorino gets Roman killed at the wedding.

lol Fallen Angel.

I also stupidly didn't save to get both. But I have an earlier save with cheats and I may just run through it to get the other ending.

Overall, I thought it was a pretty great ending. :y:

[ClockShot]

Found the bird. Annihilator is nothing special.

[Disturbed316]

Played a ton the other day, got through alot of missions and car jobs for Stevie. Last mission I did was for Derrick, where you had to take out the cops who were transporting a certain prisoner. So awesome.

[Kane Knight]

SPOILERS, ASSHOLE!

Nah, just kidding. Derrick. He's Packie's brother sleeping inthe park when you meet him? Or am I crossing him with Gerald?

I still need to finish the boat chase. I accidentally blew myself up the last time I did it.

[Kane Knight]

By the way, Cheats only block acheivements when they're on. Like, The Guns and Ammo shit blocks "Cleaned the Mean Streets." Except, you know, I got it on a save where I'd used the Guns, Ammo, Health cheat. All you need to do is use the cheat, save, and reload. Or just don't go for the GS Points while they're active.

DISCLAIMER: This might not work for all cheats, I don't know.

Also, and I'm only posting this because I was told otherwise, but you guys know you can enter a cab as a passenger without whistling and even when there's a passenger already, right? Often times, when I'm locked up because I've just been forced to dial to check in with whoever I did a mission for last, I'll stand in front of a cab and wait for Niko to hang up.

Like i said, people kept saying otherwise, that the only way to catch a cab (Besides Roman's, which you can call) is to whistle and then wait for it to pull over. So if everyone knows that, then....

[Disturbed316]

Yeah, thats the dude. I hated the boat chases, such a pain.

[Kane Knight]

It is. Wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't forgot to switch off the rocket launcher after I blew up the Helicopter. One of the boats as a little too close, and when it blew up, it took us with it. Oops. :D

Ah well. Instead, I did that fucking motorcycle chase for Gerald. It was funny, because I managed to make the dude I was chasing slam into a Police car. Then I spent the rest of the day "dating" and "hanging out" with people because everyone was getting lonely. Then I managed to crash Brucie's chopper under one of the bridges.

[MCEazy]

Found the bird. Annihilator is nothing special.

Where does the annihilator spawn once u kill all 200?

As well annoying news for anyone with the 360 version :(:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/879/879706p1.html

[ClockShot]

Where does the annihilator spawn once u kill all 200?

As well annoying news for anyone with the 360 version :(:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/879/879706p1.html

On top of the MeTV building in Algonquin. Go to the alleyway behind Splitsides Comedy Club, and take the windowwasher lift up. Climb the ladder, and it should be there. However, after shooting all the birds and saving and going to check it out, it wasn't there. I snagged a maverick and flew by it in the dead of night and there it was.

Long story short, this may be time sensitive.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

I killed Dwayne, didn't like the cut of his jibe.

Also, poor random man Jeff. I was actually really shocked when he kicked the bucket. At least he left lots of money for me to pick up :(

Jeff's the one who thinks his wife is cheating on him yeah? That was hilarious :lol:

Am now on a mission (not an actual game mission) to fool around with the swingset of death.