NFL 2009 Off Season Thread

[RP]

Week 1: Jaguars at Colts 1 p.m. W
Week 2: Colts at Dolphins Monday Night Football W
Week 3: Indianapolis at Arizona Sunday Night Football W
Week 4: Seahawks at Colts 1 p.m. W
Week 5: Indianapolis at Tennessee Sunday Night Football W
Week 6: Bye
Week 7: Colts at Rams 1 p.m. W
Week 8: 49ers at Colts 1 p.m. W
Week 9: Texans at Colts 1 p.m. W
Week 10: NEW ENGLAND AT INDIANAPOLIS Sunday Night Football W
Week 11: Indianapolis at Baltimore 1 p.m. W
Week 12: Colts at Texans 1 p.m. L
Week 13: Titans at Colts 1 p.m. L
Week 14: Broncos at Colts 1 p.m. W
Week 15: Colts at Jaguars Thursday Night Football L
Week 16: Jets at Colts 4:15 p.m. W
Week 17: Colts at Bills 1 p.m. W

[RP]

I didnt put the wins and losses on there, someone else did. I think we're gunna win every single game.

[ClockShot]

Wonderful. Denver gets yet another gauntlet starting with Dallas in week 4.

And we don't get to meet Cassel till week 13. :(

[RP]

I think the Colts could go 16-0 if they beat the Pats.

They should be 8-0 going into that game

[Krimzon7]

:lol: Hope springs eternal. RP You have a better chance of that Big black cock being yours than the Colts have of going 16-0.

Word.

[RoXer]

week 3

[RP]

week 3

yah i noticed that loss on your schedule also. Bummer.

[SammyG]

NFC South plays the NFC and AFC East this year.. Saints also play the Rams and and the Lions..

LOL

:wavesad:

Saints lost to us last time, bitch.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nice, Giants get to open up the first regular season game at the new Cowboys stadium. Hopefully they can spoil the party avec Braylon Edwards.</font>

[parkmania]

Week 1: Thurs 8:20 TEN vs PIT Loss (TEN just might have the Steelers's number)
Week 2: Sun 4:15 PIT vs CHI Win (Cutler won't have fully jelled with his new WR corps)
Week 3: Sun 1:00 PIT vs CIN Win (PIT and CIN always seem to win at the other's home)
Week 4: Sun 8:20 SD vs PIT Win (With few exceptions, PIT usually owns SD)
Week 5: Sun 1:00 PIT vs DET Win (Not happening Lions, no way, no how)
Week 6: Sun 1:00 CLE vs PIT Win (Maybe an ejection or two this time, refs?)
Week 7: Sun 1:00 MIN vs PIT 0-0 Tie??? (a defensive touchdown might just win this one)
Week 8: Bye
Week 9: Mon 8:20 PIT vs DEN Loss (DEN is always tough on MNF)
Week 10: Sun 1:00 CIN vs PIT Loss (see Week 3)
Week 11: Sun 1:00 PIT vs KC Win (Cassel's not going to be enough)
Week 12: Sun 8:20 PIT vs BAL Win (4 in a row over the Ravens)
Week 13: Sun 1:00 OAK vs PIT Win (Our fans are as rabid as yours, Al)
Week 14: Thurs 8:20 PIT vs CLE Loss (Browns' best chance is catching us on a short week)
Week 15: Sun 1:00 GB vs PIT Win (after traveling to CHI last week, the Pack will be beat up)
Week 16: Sun 1:00 BAL vs PIT Win (at 10-4-1, PIT demoralizes the birds and clinches a first-round bye)
Week 17: Sun 1:00 PIT vs MIA Win (PIT rests key players, but better make sure guys get a taste of the heat for next month in Arizona)

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints lost to us last time, bitch.

And?? Y'all have won like 5 games in the last 2 seasons combined..

[SammyG]

SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR

[OssMan]

It seems I will be attending the Giants' last regular season game at Giants Stadium.

[OssMan]

Week 1: Thurs 8:20 TEN vs PIT Loss (TEN just might have the Steelers's number)
Week 2: Sun 4:15 PGH vs CHI Win (Cutler won't have fully jelled with his new WR corps)
Week 3: Sun 1:00 PGH vs CIN Win (PIT and CIN always seem to win at the other's home)
Week 4: Sun 8:20 SD vs PIT Win (With few exceptions, PIT usually owns SD)
Week 5: Sun 1:00 PGH vs DET Win (Not happening Lions, no way, no how)
Week 6: Sun 1:00 CLE vs PIT Win (Maybe an ejection or two this time, refs?)
Week 7: Sun 1:00 MIN vs PIT 0-0 Tie??? (a defensive touchdown might just win this one)
Week 8: Bye
Week 9: Mon 8:20 PIT vs DEN Loss (DEN is always tough on MNF)
Week 10: Sun 1:00 CIN vs PIT Loss (see Week 3)
Week 11: Sun 1:00 PIT vs KC Win (Cassel's not going to be enough)
Week 12: Sun 8:20 PIT vs BAL Win (4 in a row over the Ravens)
Week 13: Sun 1:00 OAK vs PIT Win (Our fans are as rabid as yours, Al)
Week 14: Thurs 8:20 PIT vs CLE Loss (Browns' best chance is catching us on a short week)
Week 15: Sun 1:00 GB vs PIT Win (after traveling to CHI last week, the Pack will be beat up)
Week 16: Sun 1:00 BAL vs PIT Win (at 10-4-1, PIT demoralizes the birds and clinches a first-round bye)
Week 17: Sun 1:00 PIT vs MIA Win (PIT rests key players, but better make sure guys get a taste of the heat for next month in Arizona)What makes them PIT some weeks and PGH the others

[parkmania]

Yeah, I noticed that and edited my original post. Both abbreviations are used around here.

ALTHOUGH... Last year it DID seem like a different team showed up a couple weeks during the regular season. :shifty:

[Kris P Lettus]

I have never seen PGH used for Pitt ever in life, for the record..

[parkmania]

When mailing things within city limits, MOST people in a hurry use Pgh.

[DrA]

Yeah I tend to use Pgh when I don't have time to write out PIT.

[Kris P Lettus]

When mailing things within city limits, MOST people in a hurry use Pgh.

MOST people from Pgh, you mean..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

John Madden is retiring from the booth. Cris Collinsworth will be his replacement. I for one love Collinsworth and I think Michaels and he will go great together.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Eagles traded their first, a late round and a 2010 late round pick to the Bills for Jason Peters.

[Kris P Lettus]

This begs the question, who the fuck is Jason Peters??

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He's one of the best OT in the NFL and an All Pro in 2007.

[Kris P Lettus]

I have never heard of him and I'm a hardcore NFL fan..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

that's because he played for Buffalo and most NFL fans couldn't name you 5 people on the Bills off the top of their heads

[Kris P Lettus]

LOL Yeah

It's just weird to see a "big" trade happen with a player I've never heard of..

[parkmania]

John Madden is retiring from the booth. Cris Collinsworth will be his replacement. I for one love Collinsworth and I think Michaels and he will go great together.

Sorry, Collinsworth is a bigger tool than Terry Bradshaw. I may not watch a single NBC game this year.

[Gonzo]

I fucking hate Cris Collinsworth. The dude is the most arrogant, pompous twat in broadcasting. To make things worse, I think the Giants have 4 Sunday night games this year.

[Shadow]

At least he's not Joe Buck.

[VonErichLives]

I'm not a fan of collinsworth for reasons mentioned.

However, he is good, he knows his shit... and it will be interesting to see a guy who should be able to breakdown a play right after it happened w/o "you see here and bam".

although, I am going to have to get a turducken this year...

[Splaya]

that's because he played for Buffalo and most NFL fans couldn't name you 5 people on the Bills off the top of their heads


Terrell Owens, JP Losman, Trent Edwards, Marshawn Lynch, and Lee Evans :shifty:

[OssMan]

Kevin Everett

[Gonzo]

At least he's not Joe Buck.

I actually like Buck, teamed with Aikman. I find Aikman to be pretty fair in his assessments. I can definitely see the disdain anyone would have for Buck though.

In the end, its all personal preference I suppose.

[Hanso Amore]

Terrell Owens, JP Losman, Trent Edwards, Marshawn Lynch, and Lee Evans :shifty:

JP is no more.

Marcus Stroud, come on guys.

[Shadow]

I actually like Buck, teamed with Aikman. I find Aikman to be pretty fair in his assessments. I can definitely see the disdain anyone would have for Buck though.

In the end, its all personal preference I suppose.

Go listen to Buck call the Giants winning play in the Superbowl and call me in the morning.

[OssMan]

What makes you think that a Giants fan has not re-watched that play at least 1000 times

[Gonzo]

Go listen to Buck call the Giants winning play in the Superbowl and call me in the morning.

Ha, I couldn't care less if I had been watching the play on mute.

[Krimzon7]

This is beginning to be my favorite time of year. Uniform updates are coming! The lions are gonna unveil theirs today, and J-ville Wed. I love new uniforms. When I was playing, I hate to admit this, Team colors and uniforms was in my top 10 as far as who I'd sign with.

[Krimzon7]

I also think that the 49ers will be going back to the cherry red unis. The same unis that fell my beloved Bengals TWICE in the 80's

[McLegend]

I love the Eagles trade btw.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty pumped for the draft.</font>

[Krimzon7]

You should enjoy that trade the Eagles pulled off. A good O-line will make all of your current weapons better.


But you still need more weapons.

[McLegend]

Yes, I am aware.

[Gonzo]

Lions get a new logo:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4083796

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0420/nfl_lions_600.jpg

[SammyG]

Torry in Jacksonville.

Hope he likes it there :(

We have to play him, too, I think. fuck.

[The Gold Standard]

Torry in Jacksonville.

Hope he likes it there :(

We have to play him, too, I think. fuck.

He won't do anything. Garrard is not that good.

[SammyG]

Well they needed a WR badly an they got him.

Gonna be so weird to see him suiting up for JAX.

[Shadow]

Lions get a new logo:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4083796

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0420/nfl_lions_600.jpg

..............so what's new about it?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

that typeface is retarded

[FearedSanctity]

A slightly improved logo and a slightly improved uniform, first steps to a slightly improved record.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Lions are in a no-lose situation this year...even if they go 0-16 this year it'll only be equal to last year. :o

I like the logo tho.</font>

[parkmania]

A pig in a dress is still a pig. But Detroit had to do SOMETHING to get people to buy new merch - a large part of their fanbase never watched Barry Sanders, so they had no reason to keep buying his jersey.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

It's that time of year Jets fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

[Evil Vito]

It's that time of year Jets fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

<font color=goldenrod>"New York Jets first round selection...fullback..."
"OH MY GOD NO!"</font>

[VonErichLives]

word is Arizona is close to a deal w/ Baltimore for Boldin.

1st round pick.

Ariz also wants a 3rd, Balt won't give it... rumor is they may settle on Todd Heap instead.

(this is via espn).

[Nervous Ferret]

WE WANT SAPP
WE WANT SAPP
WE WANT SAPP

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Boldin on the Ravens, wow...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Percy Harvin failed a drug test. Niiiiiice

[screech]

Boldin on the Ravens, wow...

That would be amazing. Flacco needs a good target.

[screech]

I am not looking forward to Collinsworth in Madden's place.

I am also not looking forward to hearing Joe Buck and Troy Aikman again. God they suck.

[SammyG]

What? you kiddin' me? Buck and Aikman are amazing.

[screech]

Joe Buck knows nothing about the two sports he commentates. Troy Aikman is just stupid.

Plus, they're voices are so monotone...it's terrible.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Buck's not a good football guy in my opinion. Baseball he's fine, but in football he doesn't keep up with the game and doesn't seem to know that much about it. Plus I'll never get over his Randy Moss moon call.

Aikman's not bad, but he, like almost every other Fox commentator takes the game way too seriously. The CBS guys have a nice, relaxed demeanor where their job is to present the game to the fans in a manner that's entertaining and exciting. Fox guys seem like they're doing a crappy war documentary.

[SammyG]

I dunno. Would much rather listen to FOX guys

[SammyG]

Maybe it's the whole thing. I am in love with that robot.

[Krimzon7]

I don not want Boldin to the Ravens. Hell, Player for Player BOldin for Ochostinko would be epic. Everyone wins!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Plus I'll never get over his Randy Moss moon call.He does technically work for Fox, so I was not too surprised by the overreaction.

[parkmania]

I just hope Comcast can get the NFL Network to get their head out of their ass and take the money so that I get to see the Thursday Night games.

[Loose Cannon]

NFC South plays the NFC and AFC East this year.. Saints also play the Rams and and the Lions..

LOL

:wavesad:

yea, I KNOW!!!!!

The Panthers play the Jets in NY :mad::mad::mad:

[Kris P Lettus]

I just hope Comcast can get the NFL Network to get their head out of their ass and take the money so that I get to see the Thursday Night games.

Where do you live??

I always go the a bar or a buddy's house with Dish Network for NFL Net games..

[DrA]

I can't believe Jason Smith is already one of the biggest stars of this draft. He went to the same high school I went to and I kinda remember him getting recruited. He was this no name tight end that went to Baylor, and now it looks like he is going to be the second pick in the draft.

[parkmania]

Where do you live??

I always go the a bar or a buddy's house with Dish Network for NFL Net games..

I live in the hometown of the defending Super Bowl Champs. (It's not every year I get to say that, so I get it in where I can.) I don't go to bars, and all my buddies have cable same as me.

[VonErichLives]

Where do you live??

I always go the a bar or a buddy's house with Dish Network for NFL Net games..

Krisp, doesn't matter where you live, Comcast doesn't carry the NFL network, unless they work out a deal this year.

Dish and DTV carry it.

[Gonzo]

Buck's not a good football guy in my opinion. Baseball he's fine, but in football he doesn't keep up with the game and doesn't seem to know that much about it. Plus I'll never get over his Randy Moss moon call.

Aikman's not bad, but he, like almost every other Fox commentator takes the game way too seriously. The CBS guys have a nice, relaxed demeanor where their job is to present the game to the fans in a manner that's entertaining and exciting. Fox guys seem like they're doing a crappy war documentary.

I think it comes down to who you watch more and have to listen to more. I obviously watch more FOX broadcasts because the Giants play on FOX. I personally can't stand most of the CBS guys. My whole thing with commentators is that if they don't annoy me they're okay.

[Heros Welcome]

Dirty Birds bring in Tony Gonzalez for a Second round pick in NEXT years draft.

I gotta say I am VERY happy with this deal. We get a leader and a stud at the TE spot. Makes Ryan even better, and now we can focus our entire draft on defense this year and not have to think about taking Pettigrew.

[ClockShot]

Artie Blank or whoever the hell is running the Falcons when Ryan came in is making all the right moves.

[Heros Welcome]

Arther Blank is writing the checks. Thomas Dimitroff, our GM, is running the show. And he has made all the right moves indeed. Making progress without a doubt!

http://obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/entries/images/dd/63/1107740/original_image.png?1240526897 <<<<<<< Dimitroff

[Gonzo]

Its a nice addition for the Falcons but the value is poor in my opinion. A second round pick for a TE well past his prime?

[Heros Welcome]

I look at it like this. We gave up a second for NEXT years draft. The focus is now 100% defense in this draft. We still have our comp picks for next year with Boley and Foxworth going elsewhere.

We gain a leader and a guy who can still ball. I mean he had 96 catches 1058 yards and 10 TD`s on a bad team. I think if anyone got the shaft value wise it was the Chiefs.

[RoXer]

Look, I would love to keep Boldin. Sure. That is the #1 priorty.

But him for Todd Heap and possibly Knoshawn Moreno?

yesyesyesyesyesyeysyeysyeysyssyeysy

[LoDownM]

I just saw that Gonzalez was traded. I'm sad now :(

[RP]

ANTHONY GONZALES TRADED WT MOTHER FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[RP]

Oh, Tony Gonzales from the cheifs. Thank God.

[RP]

Going into the draft, i really wish the Colts would make a power play for Aaron Curry, but i dont think that will happen at all. I really like this guy. I've read his blog on SI and i just wish we somehow had the oppurtunity to select him.

Maluaga may be there at #27. Doubt it though. I really think the Colts can get the same type of DT in round 2 or 3 that they can get in round 1 so i doubt they pick a DT. Percy Harvin seemed like the choice until he toked up like a moron, so i doubt that we'll pick him.

Knowshon Moreno might be ther and he might not. I dont know. If he's there, i'm positive the Colts would take him because Addai hasnt show much the past 2 years and he'll be due for that extension soon and i dont think Indy wants to pay him if he's not worth it.

If Knowshon isnt there, i dunno. I've seen Lauranitis attached to Indy, but Indy dont pay LB's at all. They've let a ton of them go. I'd be suprised if they took the 2nd best middle LB in the draft. If Maluaga is there, they take him. If not, i dunno.

I've seen Brian Robinski attached to us too. I cant see it happening though for 2 reasons. 1) They can get him in the 2nd round and 2) They have a player just like him in Gonzo.

My feeling is that Indy takes Hakeem Nicks, unless Knowshon Moreno is there. But if Kenny Britt is there and Knowshon isnt there, I think Indy takes Britt over Nicks. If Moreno and Britt are gone, then its Nicks.

[RP]

Wayne restuctered his contract too. Indy might be up to something here. They might move up in the draft or make a trade for a reciever who is being offered like Bolding or Edwards. Not sure. But restructering a contract before the draft is kind of unheard of for the Colts. Something may be up here.

[RP]

The reason i think this might be to make some sort of move is because Indy was 7 Million under the cap and had more then enough to sign there draft picks. I'm wondering if they make a move up the board to get a higher pick.

[LoDownM]

Krisp, doesn't matter where you live, Comcast doesn't carry the NFL network, unless they work out a deal this year.

Dish and DTV carry it.


I have Comcast and have NFL Network and the HD channel for it.

[Kris P Lettus]

Supreme, tell me about Malcolm Jenkins..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I'm on the fence about whether he can play CB in the NFL and I'm leaning toward no. He's got decent speed and really good hands but he's got a mean streak that's so rare at the CB position. Personally I think he'd excel as roving safety. But either way he'd be a good pick for the Saints.

[ClockShot]

Word going around is that the Broncos are gonna trade up and grab Sanchez. Of course Josh McDevil denies it.

DON'T DO IT! I WANT DEFENSE!

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm on the fence about whether he can play CB in the NFL and I'm leaning toward no. He's got decent speed and really good hands but he's got a mean streak that's so rare at the CB position. Personally I think he'd excel as roving safety. But either way he'd be a good pick for the Saints.

Yeah, it's between him and Beanie on most mocks ATM.. I really think we should go for a OLB or a DB (as I've thought for the past 3 years) but the thought of getting a big bruising RB, who's been compared to Clinton Portis, is getting more and more appealing the closer to draft day we get.. It's fine if he'd be a better fit at Safety cause we def need help there too and we haven't drafted a safety since 2006 (Roman Harper) but we've gotten CBs like every year (Usama Young, Tracy Porter, etc).. Harper in a great tackler and a head hunter when brought down to the line, but is very weak in over the top coverage, which we desperately need.. Tracy Porter was well on his way to becoming a shut down corner, until he was injured and Usama Young is a natrually atheltic DB, but shines more as a nickle or dime..

I am torn..

[Heros Welcome]

With a day till the draft I figured I would post my final mock

1. Detroit Lions- QB Matthew Stafford Georgia
2. St. Louis Rams- OT Jason Smith Baylor
3. Kansas City Chiefs- OLB Aaron Curry Wake Forrest
4. Seattle Seahawks- QB Mark Sanchez USC
5. Cleveland Browns- DT BJ Raji Boston College
6. Cincinnati Bengals- OT Eugene Monroe Virginia
7. Oakland Raiders- WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech
8. Jacksonville Jags- OT Andre Smith Alabama
9. Green Bay Packers- DE Brian Orakpo Texas
10. San Francisco 49ers-WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
11. Buffalo Bills- DE Everette Brown Florida State
12. Denver Broncos- DE Tyson Jackson LSU
13. Washington Redskins- LB Brian Cushing USC
14. New Orleans Saints- CB Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State
15. Houston Texans- LB Clay Matthews USC
16. San Diego Chargers- LB Rey Maualuga USC
17. New York Jets- TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State
18. Denver Broncos- DT Peria Jerry Mississippi
19. Tampa Bay Bucs- QB Josh Freeman Kansas State
20. Detroit Lions- DE Aaron Maybin Penn State
21. Philadelphia Eagles- RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia
22. Minnesota Vikings- OT Michael Oher Ole Miss
23. New England Pats- CB Vontae Davis Illinois
24. Atlanta Falcons- DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood Missouri
25. Miami Dolphins- CB Darius Butler Connecticut
26. Baltimore Ravens- WR Darius Heywood Bey Maryland
27. Indianapolis Colts- RB Chris “Beanie” Wells Ohio State
28. Buffalo Bills- OT Eben Britton Arizona
29. New York Giants- WR Kenny Britt Rutgers
30. Tennessee Titans- DE Robert Ayers Tennessee
31. Arizona Cardinals- RB Donald Brown Connecticut
32. Pittsburgh Steelers- OT Max Unger Oregon

[Hanso Amore]

With a day till the draft I figured I would post my final mock

1. Detroit Lions- QB Matthew Stafford Georgia
2. St. Louis Rams- OT Jason Smith Baylor
3. Kansas City Chiefs- OLB Aaron Curry Wake Forrest
4. Seattle Seahawks- QB Mark Sanchez USC
5. Cleveland Browns- DT BJ Raji Boston College
6. Cincinnati Bengals- OT Eugene Monroe Virginia
7. Oakland Raiders- WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech
8. Jacksonville Jags- OT Andre Smith Alabama
9. Green Bay Packers- DE Brian Orakpo Texas
10. San Francisco 49ers-WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
11. Buffalo Bills- DE Everette Brown Florida State
12. Denver Broncos- DE Tyson Jackson LSU
13. Washington Redskins- LB Brian Cushing USC
14. New Orleans Saints- CB Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State
15. Houston Texans- LB Clay Matthews USC
16. San Diego Chargers- LB Rey Maualuga USC
17. New York Jets- TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State
18. Denver Broncos- DT Peria Jerry Mississippi
19. Tampa Bay Bucs- QB Josh Freeman Kansas State
20. Detroit Lions- DE Aaron Maybin Penn State
21. Philadelphia Eagles- RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia
22. Minnesota Vikings- OT Michael Oher Ole Miss
23. New England Pats- CB Vontae Davis Illinois
24. Atlanta Falcons- DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood Missouri
25. Miami Dolphins- CB Darius Butler Connecticut
26. Baltimore Ravens- WR Darius Heywood Bey Maryland
27. Indianapolis Colts- RB Chris “Beanie” Wells Ohio State
28. Buffalo Bills- OT Eben Britton Arizona
29. New York Giants- WR Kenny Britt Rutgers
30. Tennessee Titans- DE Robert Ayers Tennessee
31. Arizona Cardinals- RB Donald Brown Connecticut
32. Pittsburgh Steelers- OT Max Unger Oregon

Very good mock. I honestly dont see Pettigrew goin to the Jets, but It is a remote chance.

But the Rest is hard to argue with. Th Broncos would be off to a great start to the 3-4 with those picks.

I know Sanchez to the Seahawks is popular pick, but they can make t he playoffs this year possibly, so I think they go with someone who can make and impact RIGHT NOW.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm thinking the Bolts are gonna go after a RB to eventually replace LT..

[Heros Welcome]

I went with Pettigrew to the Jets because I think with Maclin not falling to them, I can see them showing value in a blocking TE who also has a presence over the middle, and then they can split out Keller to the outside in some sets.

Also they'll be a run heavy team, its nice to give Leon and Thomas some more space with the best blocking TE in the draft.

With Sanchez...Yeah I fell into the hype of him to the Seahawks. I mean they are a good team and just got hurt bad last year with injuries, but with the chance of the future QB to succeed Hasselback, I think you have to pull the trigger. I would be worried of a QB at 33 with back problems.

[Hanso Amore]

I went with Pettigrew to the Jets because I think with Maclin not falling to them, I can see them showing value in a blocking TE who also has a presence over the middle, and then they can split out Keller to the outside in some sets.

Also they'll be a run heavy team, its nice to give Leon and Thomas some more space with the best blocking TE in the draft.

With Sanchez...Yeah I fell into the hype of him to the Seahawks. I mean they are a good team and just got hurt bad last year with injuries, but with the chance of the future QB to succeed Hasselback, I think you have to pull the trigger. I would be worried of a QB at 33 with back problems.

True. Good points on the Jets. It would make sense. Honestly they could probably upgrade a few spots with the pick, I wouldnt be surprised to see them take Hakeem Nicks or reach for Heyward-Bey to replace Coles.

[ClockShot]

I'm thinking the Bolts are gonna go after a RB to eventually replace LT..

I thought it was determined that Darren Sproles was gonna be next in line.

[Hanso Amore]

As for the Seahawks, If Holmgren was still around I would say they would just draft a mid round QB like Davis or Bomar to develop, but maybe the do go Sanchez with the new regime.

[Hanso Amore]

I thought it was determined that Darren Sproles was gonna be next in line.

Sproles will never be a feature back. He can be a great Reggie Bush like weapon, but he cant touch the ball 25+ plus a game.

They would be well served to take a look at a grinder like Beanie or Shonn Greene, maybe even that kid from Liberty!

[Hanso Amore]

I think the Bills take one of the top 4 tackles if one is still there. THen they use 28 on a DE if Pettigrew isnt there.

[Kris P Lettus]

Sproles will never be a feature back. He can be a great Reggie Bush like weapon, but he cant touch the ball 25+ plus a game.

Pretty much..

[Evil Vito]

With a day till the draft I figured I would post my final mock

1. Detroit Lions- QB Matthew Stafford Georgia
2. St. Louis Rams- OT Jason Smith Baylor
3. Kansas City Chiefs- OLB Aaron Curry Wake Forrest
4. Seattle Seahawks- QB Mark Sanchez USC
5. Cleveland Browns- DT BJ Raji Boston College
6. Cincinnati Bengals- OT Eugene Monroe Virginia
7. Oakland Raiders- WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech
8. Jacksonville Jags- OT Andre Smith Alabama
9. Green Bay Packers- DE Brian Orakpo Texas
10. San Francisco 49ers-WR Jeremy Maclin Missouri
11. Buffalo Bills- DE Everette Brown Florida State
12. Denver Broncos- DE Tyson Jackson LSU
13. Washington Redskins- LB Brian Cushing USC
14. New Orleans Saints- CB Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State
15. Houston Texans- LB Clay Matthews USC
16. San Diego Chargers- LB Rey Maualuga USC
17. New York Jets- TE Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State
18. Denver Broncos- DT Peria Jerry Mississippi
19. Tampa Bay Bucs- QB Josh Freeman Kansas State
20. Detroit Lions- DE Aaron Maybin Penn State
21. Philadelphia Eagles- RB Knowshon Moreno Georgia
22. Minnesota Vikings- OT Michael Oher Ole Miss
23. New England Pats- CB Vontae Davis Illinois
24. Atlanta Falcons- DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood Missouri
25. Miami Dolphins- CB Darius Butler Connecticut
26. Baltimore Ravens- WR Darius Heywood Bey Maryland
27. Indianapolis Colts- RB Chris “Beanie” Wells Ohio State
28. Buffalo Bills- OT Eben Britton Arizona
29. New York Giants- WR Kenny Britt Rutgers
30. Tennessee Titans- DE Robert Ayers Tennessee
31. Arizona Cardinals- RB Donald Brown Connecticut
32. Pittsburgh Steelers- OT Max Unger Oregon

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah I'm thinking the Giants will take Britt also...either that or try trading up a little bit to get Heyward-Bey</font>

[Hanso Amore]

Unger is going to be such a fucking stud.

My ideal Bills day would be Tackle at 11, Unger or Mack at 28, and Lawrence Sidbury in the 2nd.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Stafford agrees to 6 year, $78 million deal...41.7 million guaranteed, to be the #1 pick.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Rookie.Salary.Cap.

[Boomer]

He's got Brett Favre's mentality, but isn't as talented. He's got one hell of an arm though.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I don't see Stafford being the guy. I just don't. I don't think Sanchez will be very good either.

[Big Fat Mike]

I never saw Matt Ryan as 'being the guy'

see what i did there

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Eagles have apparently asked the Broncos about Tony Scheffler. That would be a pretty sweet deal for Philly, I have to say.

[ClockShot]

They can have Dan Graham if they want.

[Kris P Lettus]

Sanchez is coming across to me like Leinart.. Hella hype cause he was decent at USC, but prolly won't do shit in the NFL.. Atleast not for a few years..

Stafford will be good..

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints resigned G Jarhi Evans and WR Lance "Velcro" Moore..

[D Mac]

Oh, Tony Gonzales from the cheifs. Thank God.

:foc:

SO MAD ABOUT THIS

[FearedSanctity]

I feel the exact opposite

[D Mac]

:mad:

JOHN ELWAY SUCKED. :p

[Gonzo]

I'm happy with the Giants first round selection of Hakeem Nicks, WR, UNC. I wanted the Giants to take him over some of the other WR prospects (Heyward-Bey, Britt, Maclin.) Nicks seems to have the prototypical size teams look for in a WR. Hopefully he can supplant himself as a solid #1 for the G Men.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I dunno I kind of think I wanted Britt more than Nicks...but I trust Reese. Obviously I would have much preferred Boldin or Edwards but what can you do. I will say though that their WR core is the key to their season next year. They have awesome D, a great line, and a fun running game but the lack of a big wideout crippled them once Plax shot himself.</font>

[Nervous Ferret]

Love the Jets trade. Brad Ratliff has had 2 hall of fame preseasons and has a cult following amongst Jets fans, but he has never taken a snap in a real game. Bunch of Jets fans have a huge hard-on for him though, me not so much. Abram Elam was really inconsistent and was already replaced by Jim Leonhard anyway. Coleman was decent at best but totally replaceable. Nothing special at all. All I see this as was a 1st, 2nd and a minor inconvienence at DE.

Not totally sold on Sanchez, but it is definitely worth a shot. Pretty huge markout moment at the draft too. Would love to go to a draft.

Jets could really use another offensive weapon too, Cotchery will never be a double coverage guy and I think people tend to overrate Dustin Keller. Plus I doubt Thomas Jones can put up the same year as last. Leon will hopefully have a bigger role as well as Brad Smith :heart:. likely Dwight Clowny and Chansi Stuckey will have a shot at a lot of playing time. Stuckey from Clemson :heart: and Clowney is an absolute beast. He has a shot to be huge I think. Plus we could pick something up tomorrow.

Kind of rambling about nothing here

[The Gold Standard]

I am so excited for Hakeem Nicks. I cannot wait for the Giants next season

[Skippord]

I want Josh McDaniels dead

[Krimzon7]

what i don't get is how can billichek get away with stealing 5 fukcing picks in the second round?

[RP]

Did i hear this right? The Bronco's traded a 1st rounder next year to get Alphonso Smith with the 37th pick this year?

[RP]

OMG THEY DID ROFL

[RP]

The Broncos are gunna be so bad next year too. Thats probably gunna be a top 10 pick LOL. They just gave up a top 10 pick for Alphonso Smith. LOL

This is amazing. Watching the destruction of a great franchise in less then 2 months is unreal. I feel like i'm watch a building being destroyed. I love it. I hope this continues.

Oh wait it did. They traded two 3rd rounders for a TE that was projected as a 5th rounder at best. AMAZING!. What can they do tommorow? Can they trade John Elways HoF rights? Like literally trade his legacy to the Falcons or something for a 4th and 6th rounder?

How bout trade Brandon Marshall for two 5th rounders. You know teams are calling about that.

If i was a Bronco fan, i'd just give up for good. This team wont have another winning season for 10 years.

[Skippord]

honestly did New England send McDaniels over here to dismantle the Broncos or what's the deal?

[Skippord]

BREAKING NEWS: CHAMP BAILEY SENT TO PATRIOTS FOR A HAM SANDWICH AND A 12th ROUND DRAFT PICK IN 1992!!!!!!

[RP]

BREAKING NEWS: CHAMP BAILEY SENT TO PATRIOTS FOR A HAM SANDWICH AND A 12th ROUND DRAFT PICK IN 1992!!!!!!

i believed this for like 5 minutes

[RP]

Reporter: " Coach McDaniel, without using words, describe how many wins you expect the Broncos to have this year.

http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2009/04/24/14/200904241408509278231-p2-210x210.jpg

[ClockShot]

honestly did New England send McDaniels over here to dismantle the Broncos or what's the deal?

That's the big conspiracy theory flying around. And I said it in the thread in casual. He's a sleeper agent planted by Belichick. That, or he's the Devil.

I give our first day a D-. We had Orakpo gift wraped with a giant bow. But McDevil had to have his pet project and draft Moreno. And as RP pointed out, traded our 2010 1st round pick to Seattle just to grab a CB early in the 2nd. Just a stupid move, we could have waited till pick 48 or whatever we had in that round.

I can see the ad in the NFL times this morning now. "For Sale: Runningbacks. All injured last year, little experince, lots to choose from. For info, call Denver Broncos."

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Seahawks in prime position to grab a QB and LT next year now. Crazy.

[FearedSanctity]

Alright, I've had time to read up on some of these guys they drafted, and I like them (minus McBath and somewhat Quinn). The trades however, FUCKING RETARDED. If I had to grade just the players selected, B.

Maybe we can have a RB for more that just 2 seasons now?


EDIT: Only 6 years to get to 1,000? Damn.

[Innovator]

Jaws and Herm Edwards just gave each other a pound

[owenbrown]

a lot of defensive backs, defensive linemen, and receivers being drafted... quarterbacks and running backs not so much.

[Nervous Ferret]

Shonn Greene :cool:

[Heros Welcome]

Peria Jerry, William Moore, and Chris Owens

I gotta say when our pick came up I said its either Matthews or Jerry. I felt Matthews was going to be the pick since I felt his value at 24 was very high, he is a very versatile linebacker, and its a big need for the Falcons.

We go with Peria Jerry and I am not the least disappointed. Mike Smith coming from JAX where he had that defense with those big DT running the middle of that D line, like Marcus Stroud, gets a guy who can come in right away and work next to Babs and really sure up our D Line.

Then at 55 we go with William Moore. I thought it was either him of Michael Johnson. We take Moore who is very quick and has a great size at SS. He had an off senior, but his junior year was extremly promising, I expect good things.

Then at 90 we go CB by taking Chris Owens. I don't know much about the guy, but i've been watching some videos and he seems to be a very smart corner. He seems to have a great read on the ball, and knows how to minimize his mistakes.

All in all I am happy with our picks thus far!

[Kris P Lettus]

Jerry will be a great interior DL for many years..

[Heros Welcome]

Lawrence Sidbury a Falcon as well!

Again, very excited about this pick as well. It adds even more depth to our D line. We add another DE which gives us the opportunity to keep Abe even more fresh.

Abe Babs Jerry Anderson with a rotation behind them including Lewis Davis Sidbury Biermann!

Keep it up TD, keep it up!

[Crimson]

LOL RAIDERS

[Krimzon7]

fresh legs? and a wide asshole.

[Kris P Lettus]

Lawrence Sidbury a Falcon as well!

Again, very excited about this pick as well. It adds even more depth to our D line. We add another DE which gives us the opportunity to keep Abe even more fresh.

Abe Babs Jerry Anderson with a rotation behind them including Lewis Davis Sidbury Biermann!

Keep it up TD, keep it up!

Still won't get/sack Brees but OK..

[Krimzon7]

They are talking about moving Jamaal Anderson to Tackle beside Peria Jerry. How fucking awesome would that be.

[Kris P Lettus]

They talked about that last year with Charles Grant.. We got DE Bobby McCray from JAX and DT Sed Ellis in the draft.. The rumors were flying all last summer in in training camp that on 3rd and long and in passing situations, they would drop Grant down to DT with Ellis and have Will Smith and McCray on the ends.. Kinda like what the Giants had done to the Pats in the superbowl..

Never happened once, all season.. Not one single time..

[Hanso Amore]

Bills are having a near perfect draft.

[Heros Welcome]

Kris P I have a feeling you and I are going to be exchanging a lot of words this offseason as well as the upcoming season.

[Crimson]

AFC West went from bad to worse, haha wtf are they thinking in Denver and Oakland? Even the Chargers draft an outside backer rather than inside one. And the Chiefs seem like they did ok, but Jackson was kind of a reach but they now don't even have Gonzales for Fat Cassel's security blanket. 8-8 wins that division.

[Kris P Lettus]

Kris P I have a feeling you and I are going to be exchanging a lot of words this offseason as well as the upcoming season.

Yeah MTH was the only Falcunts fan around here for the past couple of seasons.. Glad one fluke year has brought more of y'all around..

:shifty:

:o

[Heros Welcome]

Yeah you're right. It was a fluke. I mean its not like Roddy or Turner are that good. Or Harry Douglas is going to be a serviceable slot wideout. Or Jenkins is going to be that perfect complement number 2. Or Matt Ryan is going to be a top 10 QB in the league.

Plus add in that senior citizen Tony Gonzalez to the mold. I'm expecting a step backwards this year.

[McLegend]

Eagles acquire Ellis Hobbs for two 5th round draft choices. Don't know if its this year's draft or next year's.

Ellis Hobbs sucks doesn't he?

[Skippord]

I am so incredibly angry the Broncos didn't draft Orakpo

I can't even comprehend it

[Gonzo]

Eagles acquire Ellis Hobbs for two 5th round draft choices. Don't know if its this year's draft or next year's.

Ellis Hobbs sucks doesn't he?

I think he gets beat a lot in coverage. Ask Stima or VEL.

[ClockShot]

Broncos grab a WR and QB.

I hope that the first home game is nationally televised.

[Skippord]

I think the only choice I like by the Broncos is McBath

I like that guy

[DaveBrawl]

I am confused by Josh McDaniels tactics.

[Krimzon7]

Don't be, he peaked as a personal assistant. He was spoiled by having absolute veterans around him in New England. Now, we are seeing the cracks in his shit. Too bad players havent even put on pads yet.

[DaveBrawl]

Where's Latrell Spreewell when you need him. A good throttling is what McDaniels needs.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Undrafted free agent signings:

AFC EAST

New England Patriots

* S Marcus McClinton (Kentucky)
* CB Jamar Love (Arkansas)
* QB Brian Hoyer (Michigan St.)
* LB Antonio Appleby (Virginia)

Miami Dolphins

* TE Jared Bronson (Central Washington)
* OG Mark Lewis (Oregon)
* DE Ryan Baker (Purdue)
* LB Orion Martin (Virginia Tech)

New York Jets

* DE Jamaal Westerman (Rutgers)
* TE Andrew Davie (Arkansas)
* DL Matt Kroul (Jets)
* P T.J. Conley (Idaho)
* TE Robert Myers (Utah State)
* DE Zach Potter (Nebraska)
* TE J’Nathan Bullock (Cleveland State - Basketball)

Buffalo Bills

* DL David Lindquist (Illinois)
* OT Joel Bell (Furman)
* TE Travis McCall (Alabama)
* K Danny Urrego (Portland State)

AFC WEST

Kansas City Chiefs

* DE Pierre Walters (Eastern Illinois)
* WR Taurus Johnson (South Florida)
* LB Jovan Belcher (Maine)
* DB Londen Fryar (W. Michigan)
* DE Bobby Greenwood (Alabama)
* LB Bobby Abare (Yale)

San Diego Chargers

* LB Darry Beckwith (LSU)
* OL Ryan McDonald (Illinois)
* WR Charly Martin (West Texas A&M)
* OT Sam Allen (Grand Valley St.)
* OT Dan Guy IV (Baylor)
* LB James Holt (Kansas)
* RB Curtis Brinkley (Syracuse)
* CB Wopamo Asaisai (Stanford)

Oakland Raiders

* LB Frantz Joseph (Florida Atlantic)

Denver Broncos

* DL Everette Pedescleaux (Northern Iowa)
* CB Dominique Johnson (Jackson St)
* WR Lucas Taylor (Tennessee)
* WR Nate Swift (Nebraska)
* DT Chris Baker (Hampton)
* CB Tony Carter (FSU)

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers

* LS Mark Estermyer (Pittsburgh)
* OT Ramon Foster (Tennessee)
* S Derrick Richardson (New Mexico St.)
* QB Mike Reilly (Central Washington)

Baltimore Ravens

* QB Drew Willy (Buffalo)
* DT Will Johnson (Michigan)
* OL Greg Ryan (Western Kentucky)
* DE Willie VanDeSteeg (Minnesota)
* K Graham Gano (FSU

Cleveland Browns

* WR Jordan Norwood (Penn St.)
* S Jason Venson (UCF)
* OG Marlon Davis (Alabama)
* DB Corey Boudreaux (SDSU)
* WR Brent Casteel (Utah)
* P Chris Lynch (Albany)

Cincinnati Bengals

* DT TY Steinkuhler (Nebraska)
* DL Dan Skuta (Grand Valley St.)
* FB Chris Pressley (Wisconsin)
* S Tom Nelson (Illinois State)
* RB Marlon Lucky (Nebraska)
* WR Quan Cosby (Texas)
* TE Greg Orton (Purdue)
* C Colin Dow (Montana)

AFC SOUTH

Indianapolis Colts

* DT Pat Kuntz (Notre Dame)
* OT Cornelius Lewis (Tenn St.)
* P Tim Masthay (Kentucky)
* LB Ramon Humbler (NDSU)

Jacksonville Jaguars

* WR Jason English (Tuskegee)
* CB Peter Ittersagen (Wheaton)
* DE Jeremy Navarre (Maryland)
* QB Tyler Lorenzen (Uconn)
* DE Julius Williams (UConn)
* QB Michael Desormeaux (UL)
* RB Kyle Bell (Colorado St.)
* QB Nathan Brown (Central Arkansas)
* DT George Hypolite (Colorado)
* WR Todd Peterson (Nebraska)
* S Kevin Patterson (Wake Forest)
* LB Russel Allen (SDSU)
* FB Brock Bolen (Louisville)
* CB Weldon Brown (La Tech)
* WR Maurice Dupree (Jacksonville St.)
* RB Mike McClendon (North Alabama)
* C Cecil Newton (Tenn St.)
* LB Johnny Williams (Kentucky)

New Orleans Saints

* CB Danny Gorrer (Texas A&M)
* OG Cedric Dockery (Texas)
* WR Chris Vaughn (Louisville)
* LB Jonathan Casillas

Houston Texans

* OT Jason Watkins (Florida)
* DE Tim Jamison (Michigan)
* RB Arian Foster (Tennessee)
* RB Jeremiah Johnson (Oregon)

Tennessee Titans

* WR Dudley Guice (NW State)
* DE Mitch King (Iowa)

NFC EAST

New York Giants

* DE Maurice Evans (Penn State)
* S Otis Wiley (Mich State)
* S Sha’reff Rashad (UCF)

Philadelphia Eagles

* RB Marcus Thigpen (Indiana)
* DL Josh Gaines (Penn State)
* WR Brandon Robinson (Boston College)

Washington Redskins

* QB Chase Daniel (Missouri)
* OT Scott Burley (Maryland)
* DE Derek Walker (Illinois)
* WR Josh Briscoe (Tennessee)
* C Edwin Wiliams (Maryland)
* WR Jaison Williams (Oregon)

Dallas Cowboys

* WR Kevin Ogletree (Virginia)
* WR Julian Hawkins (Boise St)
* QB Graham Harrel (Texas Tech) * Tryout

NFC WEST

Seattle Seahawks

* DE Michael X. Bennett (Texas A&M)
* LB Tony Fein (Mississippi)
* RB Devin Moore (Wyoming)
* LB Dave Philistin (Maryland)
* OT Andre Ramsey (Ball State)
* RB Tyler Roehl (North Dakota State)

San Francisco 49ers

* DE Pannel Egboh (Stanford)
* CB Jahi Word-Daniels (Georgia Tech)
* RB Kory Sheets (Purdue)
* OT Alex Boone (Ohio State)
* CB Carlos Thomas (South Carolina)
* DE Brandon Long (MSU)

Arizona Cardinals

* WR Justin Brown (Hampton)
* DB Michael Ray Garvin (FSU)
* WR Shane Morales (Oregon St.)

St. Louis Rams

* OG Roger Allen (Missouri Western)
* DE Ian Campbell (Kansas State)
* OT Phil Trautwein (Florida)
* SS Mark Rubin (Penn State)
* LB Dominic Douglas (Mississippi State)
* C Daneil Sanders (Colorado)

NFC NORTH

Chicago Bears

* OL Dennis Conley (Hampton)
* WR Eric Peterman (Northwestern)
* S Dahana Deletson (UConn)
* FB Will Taufoou (Cal)
* LB Mike Rivera (Kansas)
* RB Tyrell Fenroy (UL-Lafayette)
* DT Steve Ostrowski (UW-Whitewater)
* TE Vernon Sims (Northern Illinois)

Green Bay Packers

* WR Andy Brodell (Iowa)
* RB Tyrell Sutton (Northwestern)
* WR Kole Heckendorf (North Dakota State)
* TE Carson Butler (Michigan)
* WR Jaron Harris (SDSU)
* WR Jamarko Simmons (Western Michigan)
* OG Dario Nanni (Stillman Valley)
* P Kurt Achter (UW-Oshkosh)

Minnesota Vikings

* S DeVon Hall (Utah State)
* LB Andy Schantz (Portland State)
* WR Vinny Perreta (Boise St.)
* LB Robert Francois (Boston College)
* RB Ian Johnson (Boise St.)
* C Jon Cooper (Oklahoma)
* WR Nick Walker (Alabama)
* OL Andy Kemp (Wisconsin)
* FS Colt Anderson (Montana)

Detroit Lions

* DT John Gill (Northwestern)

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

* OL Rob Bruggeman (Iowa)
* QB Joe Ganz (Nebraska)
* OG Maurice Miller (Mississippi)

Atlanta Falcons

* LB Brock Christopher (Missouri)
* WR Aaron Kelly (Clemson)
* OL Ryan Stanchek (West Virginia)
* QB John Parker Wilson (Alabama)
* WR Darren Mogey (SDSU)
* P Robbie Dehaze (NAU)

Carolina Panthers

* LB Anthony Heygood (Purdue)
* OL Keith Grey (UConn)
* OT Gerald Cadogan (Penn St.)
* LB Brit Miller (Illinois)
* OL CJ Davis (Pitt)
* TE Kevin Brock (Rutgers)
* WR Jason Cherry (UL-Lafayette)
* DT Justin Kershaw (MSU)
* OT Patrick Brown (UCF)

---

Jaguars are trying to build an entire team of UDFA's.</font> :o

[RP]

Kuntz

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Number of players drafted by school:

Abilene Christian - 2
Miami (FL) - 1
Notre Dame - 1

[FearedSanctity]

Denver Broncos

* DL Everette Pedescleaux (Northern Iowa)
* CB Dominique Johnson (Jackson St)
* WR Lucas Taylor (Tennessee)
* WR Nate Swift (Nebraska)
* DT Chris Baker (Hampton)
* CB Tony Carter (FSU)

Also:
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WR- Travis Shelton, WR, Temple
OT Stanley Bryant, East Carolina
LB Lee Robinson, Alcorn State
WR David Grimes, Notre Dame
TE Marquez Branson, Central Arkansas
DE Rulon Davis, California
P/K Britton Colquitt, Tennessee

[RP]

Are you naming there new starters? Did they trade Brandon Marshall for all these people?

[Loose Cannon]

LOL

[WestNZ]

Ok, now i got a question, and i hope someone can answer it.

I do love football, but know veruy little about some aspects of it, so i was wondering what the heck it means for the team, and the player involved when a team puts the "Franchise tag" on a player.

[FearedSanctity]

From Wikipedia:

In the National Football League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League), the franchise tag is a designation a team may apply to a player scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_agent). The tag binds the player to the team for one year if certain conditions are met. Each team has access each year to only one franchise tag (of either the exclusive or non-exclusive forms) or one transition tag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_tag). As a result, each team may only designate one player each year as that team's franchise player (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_player).
Usually reserved for players of great skill or of high importance to the team, a franchise tag allows a team's manager the privilege of strategically retaining valuable free-agent players while seeking talent through the NFL draft or other acquisitions without exceeding the League's salary cap.
If the designated franchise player elects to play for the team that designated him with the franchise tag, and does not negotiate a contract with another team his one year salary is guaranteed.
If a club withdraws their offered contract the player immediately reverts to an unrestricted free agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_agent).

[SammyG]

Edge released, interesting.

[FearedSanctity]

Favre too...

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/04/new_york_jets_officially_relea.html

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn, played against 2 kids in HS that signed as undrafted FA's; Chris Pizzotti who signed with the Jets & Bobby Abare who signed with the Chiefs.

Also Ellis Hobbs is not that good so I'm totally fine w/ him leaving. Pats secondary was awful last year so I'm fine with a little bit of an overhaul. All this talk about him returning kicks but he got so many opportunities because he stayed getting burnt for touchdowns.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

To Hobbs' credit though, he always played hurt and his toughness really can't be questioned. It's not really his fault he was thrust into the role of #1 corner last year, which he definitely isn't. He was the #2 corner for an entire season on a team that was one TD drive away from going 19-0, so you gotta take that into consideration

[Krimzon7]

No, you don't Jesus. This dude was the number two corner in an aging secondary who had a top 10 front seven in front of him. He also had a record setting Quarterback AND Receiver who consistently put up 28 points in a year when they were one TD Drive away from going 19-0.

For that matter, who gave up that one touchdown???

Damn.

[WestNZ]

Thanks for the Franchise tag explaination

[Gonzo]

No, you don't Jesus. This dude was the number two corner in an aging secondary who had a top 10 front seven in front of him. He also had a record setting Quarterback AND Receiver who consistently put up 28 points in a year when they were one TD Drive away from going 19-0.

For that matter, who gave up that one touchdown???

Damn.

I'm fairly certain Asante Samuel was covering Burress and Samuel slipped on the play when Burress caught the game winner.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Nah it was definitely Ellis Hobbs.

Mr. Get Paid himself Asanute Samuel could have ended the game earlier though when Eli threw him the ball but he decided to drop it

[Krimzon7]

Exactly, that late in the game, they were in a zone blitz. Hobbs was supposed to cover that third of the field. He choked, he slipped.

[Innovator]

Hobbs jumped the slant, like you should in the end zone

[Gonzo]

Exactly, that late in the game, they were in a zone blitz. Hobbs was supposed to cover that third of the field. He choked, he slipped.

I don't think ya can kill the guy over slipping. Shit happens.

Hobbs jumped the slant, like you should in the end zone

QFT

[Gonzo]

I used to have a DVD quality video of Superbowl 42 but now when I try to play it all I get is sound. :mad:

I just found this out, what the fuck? Grr

[Krimzon7]

In a cover 3, it is his responsibility to handle the deepest threat in his third of the field. The slant isn't his responsibility. Plaxico was. If I'm not mistaken Burress didn't catch a 5 yard strike, it was a 25 yard stirke. You give up the short stuff to prevent the touchdown bombs.


I reiterate, he choked, blew the coverage, and he slipped trying to make up for his fuck up. Poor discipline to not trust the Linebackers.

[ClockShot]

And the runningback housecleaning begins in Denver.

Selvin Young released.

[RP]

Selvin Young wasnt all that bad when he wasnt injuring himself everytime he got on the field.

[ClockShot]

Correct, sir.

[FearedSanctity]

Won't miss him, had good speed but fuck, was injured often and it didn't take much at all to get him down.

[Krimzon7]

wasn't he the one working in a cell phone booth in the mall?

Nope, that was Tatum Bell. Imagine the irony

[Kris P Lettus]

Saints working on a deal to stay in NOLA till 2025..

WOOOO Dat??

Also, they released Big Fat Hollis Thomas..

:wavesad:

[VonErichLives]

yeah, Hobbs is a nickle guy, who had to play all the time... he's not that bad because he's very fast, but he's also very short.... So, any jump situation he's screwed.

Plus side is he's a good returner.

but, he wasn't going to play much with all the picks/signings so I'll take the pick for him.

I love the talk of McDaniel being a Pats spy...

The truth may just be he wasn't ready... the guy was a glorified QB coach.

But time will tell, 1/2 the predictions we all make this time of year never work out anyway.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

You could argue Tomlin was a glorified DB coach.

Difference is when he went into Pittsburgh he recognised he had something good already and didn't initiate wholesale change.

[parkmania]

You could argue Tomlin was a glorified DB coach.

Difference is when he went into Pittsburgh he recognised he had something good already and didn't initiate wholesale change.

In fact, he went out of his way to make sure we kept LeBeau.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>rofl some guy on the Giants' message board ordered a #88 Hakeem Nicks jersey from a local shop as soon as he was drafted, wanting to be the first person to have one and figuring Nicks would want his college number and would get it because jobber backup TE Michael Matthews (who will probably be cut unless there is an injury) has it.

Instead, Nicks is wearing #18 and since he specifically asked for it from Feagles...likely means that's the number he will be wearing as a Giant. :lol:

This is now the third time Feagles has cashed in on his teammates wanting a number. Eli paid for a Feagles family vacation to Florida to get #10, then a year later Plax paid for a brand new grill/kitchen area to get #17. :o Wonder what Nicks gave him.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Alot of people have Reggie Bush jerseys with #5 on them..

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>What I'm looking forward to seeing now that Feagles is going back to wearing #17, how many people put a piece of paper with FEAGLES written on it over the back of their Burress jerseys.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

This reminds me of a topic I meant to start awhile ago..

[ClockShot]

On the Broncos front, Knowshon Moreno is going to wear #27. The late Darrent Williams' number. He had to actually get the OK from Williams' famliy to wear it.

The expectations just got bigger for this guy.

[Kris P Lettus]

Moreno will be a good NFL RB for years to come.. I know Bronco fans didn't like the pick, but I think he'll be a good guy to build y'alls new offense around..

[Gonzo]

What I'm looking forward to seeing now that Feagles is going back to wearing #17, how many people put a piece of paper with FEAGLES written on it over the back of their Burress jerseys.

lol gonna do this

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think Brian Cushing is going to be the Defensive Rookie of the Year

[Kris P Lettus]

Malcolm Jenkins

:shifty:

[Nervous Ferret]

lol this guy who sits a few rows down from my Jets season tickets always wears this mad faded out Keyshawn #19 jersey, but he has a huge piece of tape over Johnson and wrote "Keyshawn Sucks". It is hilarious, I am going to get a picture of his back next game I go to.

[Kris P Lettus]

So rumors are that Favre might be coming back for the Vikings..

WTF

:(

[SammyG]

LOL what

[VonErichLives]

So rumors are that Favre might be coming back for the Vikings..

WTF

:(

Didn't his agent release a statement last week saying he was done with football and was happy working on his farm?

[Kris P Lettus]

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/11704772

All over every sports site and talk radio..

[Big Fat Mike]

He wanted to play for the Vikes in the fucking first place last summer. Of course he's going to come out of retirement....AGAIN. I'm pretty sick and fucking tired of the guy's bullshit already. Just stay on your huge piece of land and get fat like every other retired slob. Jesus.

[VonErichLives]

and normally the Jets would require compensation, because they released him based on him retiring, however they wont because then it would count as a trade and then they'd owe the packers a bunch of picks because there was a clause that if he was delt back to the division the Packers got compensation from the Jets.

but yeah, his agent was all over the place after his release that he was never playing again...

god, what are we going to need? this guy to drop dead or be in a wheelchair so we don't go through this every single offseason? (no, i'm not wishing either on him!)

[Kris P Lettus]

In his defense, he never wanted to leave the Packers in the first place..

Just saying..

[Hanso Amore]

Speaking of Jersey changing.

I had a Drew Bledsoe and Takeo Spikes Bills Jerseys, and they are no Paul Pozlusny and Roscoe Parrish.

[Hanso Amore]

So the power to change jersey names rocks.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Thought the Packers worked something out so he couldn't go to the Vikings or it would cost the Jets a ton of picks? Maybe that was only if the Jets traded him to the Vikings.

[Kris P Lettus]

I really don't see why anyone, except maybe Packer fans, would be mad about this.. I mean,

-Packers got rid of Favre
-Favre went to the Jets and had an awesome season
-Favre leaves Jets
-Jets get a "QB for the future" via the draft
-Vikings get Favre

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Maybe everyone is sick of the daily Favre watch on ESPN and everywhere else and sick of his bullshit and constant backtracking on retiring.

If he does come back I hope he throws like 5 picks to AJ Hawk and BJ Raji sits on him.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I have no doubt at all that Favre wil be back.

Cutler, Favre, Rodgers, Stafford. Interesting division.</font>

[VonErichLives]

Thought the Packers worked something out so he couldn't go to the Vikings or it would cost the Jets a ton of picks? Maybe that was only if the Jets traded him to the Vikings.

yes only trade.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You mean Culpepper? I doubt Stafford gets any burn this year

[SammyG]

Eh I think Stafford will play some. Not a fulltime starter though. Actually. Ugh. Dunno. I think Culpepper will be the starter, but if he starts fucking up bad early, week 4-5, I expect to see Stafford.

[Kris P Lettus]

So Trent Dilfer emailed Favre today and asked if he was returning.. Favre email back and simply said "No.."..

lol

[RP]

Brett Farvra

[RP]

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[SammyG]

rooofllll favvreee WHAT A FUCKING DOUCHEBAG

[Mr. Monday Morning]

So Trent Dilfer emailed Favre today and asked if he was returning.. Favre email back and simply said "No.."..

lol

ESPN says he's meeting Childress THIS WEEK.

HE IS A LIAR.

Also on a tangent the Colts offensive coordinator and line coach could both be retiring :o

[RP]

It has to do with the league pension plan they changed.

[Kris P Lettus]

I know everyone who worked on the Wrangler commercial..

Yeah, like a hour after after they said that about the email on NFL Live, they had BREAKING NEWS that he was meeting with Childress this week on SportsCenter.. They were giving Dilfer hell on the second showing of NFL Live on ESPN 2 at 6:30 pm CST..

It was kinda LOL..

[Team Sheep]

Stay down Brett!

[Krimzon7]

who the fuck sends reporters to Hattisburg? Clearly everyone...

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Roy Williams (safety) signs with the Bengals

Interesting

[RP]

all of a sudden every play run against the Bengals will be a Hail Mary.

[Loose Cannon]

lol Hail Mary on the Bengals. very fitting

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Heard Brian Leonard got traded to the Bengals

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/_photos/2006/09/27/leonard.jpg
http://simaldeff.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/final_feature_63075.jpg

[Kris P Lettus]

who the fuck sends reporters to Hattisburg? Clearly everyone...

That is an hour from my house..

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Patriots rookie, 3rd round pick Tyrone McKenzie, out for the season with a knee injury.

I swear, every spring minicamp there is at least one season-ending knee injury.</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

The Saints had a rookie TE and WR get arrested in Jefferson Parrish (where I used to live) for exposing themselves and being drunk in public.. They were cut a day later..

Fucking idiots..

[ClockShot]

Soooooooooooooooooooo. Favre sends a copy of an x-ray of his right shoulder to the Vikings for evaluation.

Bus Cook doesn't know anything about it.

[ClockShot]

Oh and Broncos sign........

















wait for it
















































RB Darius Walker. Formally with the Texans.

:?:/:rant:/:foc:

Fuck off, McDevil.

[SammyG]

lol Favre says if his x-rays are good, he will join the vikigns.

[Kris P Lettus]

Good for him..

[VonErichLives]

Farve is a joke... this is a joke... I wonder how long GB wait to retire his number so he doesn't get boo'd.

[SammyG]

Fuck Brett Favre. What a douchebag.

Anyway. Rams cut Pisa Tinoisamoa. Our leading tackler from last year. Spagnuolo and Devaney are really making some crazy moves this offseason.

[Kris P Lettus]

How is he a douchebag??

When the Packers first decided to get rid of him, he wanted to go to Minn.. The Packers made it so he couldn't, so he went to NY.. Now, he's figured out a way to go to Minn..

I'll say again, if it was up to him, he'd still be a Packer..

[SammyG]

How is he a douchebag? he fucking retired twice, and now he wants to come back. Come the fuck on. Egotistical, washed up, piece of shit, that can't stay away from the game that he can't really play that well anymore. He needs the spotlight. It's retarded, and I hate him, and I hope he gets absolutely JACKED in a game this year if he really does decide to be a faggot and come back once again. Ruining his legacy, and his image.

[Kris P Lettus]

You are wrong.. He was thinking about retiring him and Ted Thompson made the decision to go with Rodgers.. Favre wanted to retire a Packer but they forced him out.. They also forced him to go to NY via trade instead of Minn via free agency, which is what he wanted when they, again, forced him out of GB..

Really it works out for every team anyway, cause the Pack wanted Radgers starting, Jets got "revitalized" and now have a QB for the future, and Minn might get an actual good QB..

[SammyG]

They forced him out? Didn't Favre retire, GB said ok, then Favre said he wanted to come back, so GB was gonna give him his starting position back, and then Favre said he wanted to remain retired, so GB went with Rodgers, and THEN Favre wanted to come back to GB again before he got dealt to the Jets?

[Kris P Lettus]

No.. He said he was thinking about retiring and when he decided against it, they said they were going with Rodgers.. I see their point cause it's been a year to year thing but seriously, he's the greatest QB of "our" generation.. I hope he plays forever and dies on the field..

:'(

[McLegend]

Tom Brady and Payton Manning are better then Favre in his prime.

Now with that said he is still a top 10 QB of all time.

[McLegend]

Jon Elway was better as well.

[SammyG]

I just think he is ruining his legacy.

Just like when Jordan came back with the Wizards. Like, come on, go out on top of your game. If Jordan woulda retired right after that sixth ring, it woulda been awesome.

[McLegend]

Let's be honest here. No one thinks of Jordan on the Wizards. It had no real ill affect on his legacy.

This is different with Favre though. He has become more of a villian to the general public in these past few years.

[Mr. Monday Morning]

Also he is pretty much going to sign with the Packers biggest rivals right now (k I guess you could argue Chicago but w/e). At the rate he's going they won't even retire his number.

[VonErichLives]

No.. He said he was thinking about retiring and when he decided against it, they said they were going with Rodgers.. I see their point cause it's been a year to year thing but seriously, he's the greatest QB of "our" generation.. I hope he plays forever and dies on the field..

:'(

yeah, he dicked around with GB more then once and they decided it was time.

and no, he isn't the greatest QB of "our" generation...

he's not top 5... you could argue top 10, but greatest? no.

(unless you have some strange definition of generation)

Manning, Brady, Marino, Elway, Montana, Young, and that's off the top off my head... with a little thought there's probably a few i'm missing.

[RP]

Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of our generation.

[Kris P Lettus]

yeah, he dicked around with GB more then once and they decided it was time.

and no, he isn't the greatest QB of "our" generation...

he's not top 5... you could argue top 10, but greatest? no.

(unless you have some strange definition of generation)

Manning, Brady, Marino, Elway, Montana, Young, and that's off the top off my head... with a little thought there's probably a few i'm missing.

You are li9ke 47 years old so "our" generations are alittle different..

[OssMan]

I hope Tom Brady signs with the Jets at the end of his career

[VonErichLives]

You are li9ke 47 years old so "our" generations are alittle different..

I'm 6yrs older then you, nice try though....

I do like how he's working out with a high school team in Mississippi... in fairness, it's one of the few places guys his age are still high school seniors.

[RatedGSuperstar]

I guess I'm one of the few Packers fans who really don't care much about this. Green Bay's a better team without him at this point, and I'm not entirely convinced that the Vikings will be that much better off with Favre than they would've been with Sage Rosenfels. Both quarterbacks are going to give you just as many interceptions as touchdowns, and with Favre the Green Bay defense already knows everything that makes him tick.

It'll make for an interesting storyline, but it won't make much difference in the division race in terms of the big picture. Minnesota still has no receivers and Adrian Peterson needs to prove he can stay healthy for a full season. Chicago finally has a quarterback but they don't really have any receivers, either, and that defense is aging. Green Bay's pretty well rounded, but they have questions about the running game and their schedule is absolutely brutal. Detroit's still a couple years away from even getting to .500.

[Kris P Lettus]

:o @ Vel