NBA 2009 Off Season Thread

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Welp since the season wrapped up a little bit ago I figured I'd start this up so stuff doesn't get lost in the shuffle.

Who do you guys think are the biggest FA coming out this year? I think it might hurt whoever they are with next year's class being he greatest collection of free agents in a long time, teams may want to be saving/setting up for that.

For the C's Glen Davis & Leon Powe are both restricted FA with Eddie House, Marbury & Mikkie Moore unrestricted.

I think Marbury & Moore are both gone but I think Davis, Powe & House will all be back with the team.

As for the rest of the NBA there is something interesting free agents out there. Odom, Ariza, Artest, Villanueva, David Lee, Turkoglu, Boozer and some others. Kobe could even opt out and be a free agent but that's doubtful.

Kinda off topic but the 2010 class is straight up ridiculous, look at some of these guys;

Joe Johnson, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce (opt-out clause), LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki (opt-out), Kenyon Martin (opt-out), Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming (opt-out), Adam Morrison & J.J. Redick, Dwyane Wade, Michael Redd (opt-out), Jason Richardson (opt-out), Tyson Chandler (opt-out), Peja Stojakovic (opt-out), Marcus Camby, Steve Nash, Shaquille O'Neal, Amare Stoudemire (opt-out), LaMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Roy, Manu Ginobili, Chris Bosh

I know a lot of them are early termination options but WOW - there's a lot of pretty good role players too that are becoming free agents in 2010. All of those guys listed are All-Stars or pretty close to it (granted some of them are a bit older)

Can see both complete lists here: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=freeagents-09-10

[SammyG]

I wanna say fuck the Celtics and I hope that the Lakers meet them in the Finals next year. kbye

[DaveBrawl]

I just hope the Celtics resign Big Baby. He really upped his game this year and he's showing a lot of promise.

[Triple Naitch]

Suns and T'Wolves are discussing Amare Stoudemire for Al Jefferson and the #6 pick. T'Wolves are giving up way to much for practically the same player.

[DaveWadding]

and Jefferson will be way better because he rebounds and plays defense.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Ben Gordon is a free agent too. Apparently the Pistons are already planning on throwing an $11M/year offer at him.

However, this could just be Chicagoans trying to start drama because the same people who reported that also reported that the Pistons are trying to trade Rip Hamilton.

[RP]

There's something i dont like about Ben Gordon, i just cant put my finger on it.

[screech]

I admit that I don't know much about basketball, but it's kinda surprising to me that Turkoglu opted out of his contract.

[SammyG]

He just wants more money from Orlando. Doubt he really wants to go somewhere else.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I wanna say fuck the Celtics and I hope that the Lakers meet them in the Finals next year. kbye

That worked out well for the Lakers last season

Ben Gordon was impressive during the playoffs but I haven't seen him play very much outside of that.

I'm curious to see where Allen Iverson ends up?

[Triple Naitch]

I'd say Iverson is bound for Charlotte. For some reason I see him and Larry Brown both wanting a reunion.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think he would help put some asses in the seats there

I'd rather see him in a run & gun system like the Warriors or Knicks run though

[Loose Cannon]

I think Ariza is gone and Odom stays.

We all have heard Shaq to the Cavs. I dunno about that. I don't think him and Lebron will work well together.

I'm waiting for .......and the NY Knicks select......out of Davidson College....Stephen Curry :love:

[Loose Cannon]

god, no Iverson to the Knicks. I love Iverson, but the Knicks would be taking more steps backwards with that move.

Charlotte would be a good fit. Nobody goes to the game here. And they are hardly ever talked about. Iverson would jump start some ticket sales

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Not saying they are going to get him or anything, pretty sure they got enough shooting guards right now - but I think AI in a system like that would be fun to watch.

I also don't think the Knicks are going to get Stephen Curry, he might not be on the board when they pick. I think James Harden would be a good fit for the Knicks, don't think he will fall that far though.

[DaveWadding]

Suns and T'Wolves are discussing Amare Stoudemire for Al Jefferson and the #6 pick. T'Wolves are giving up way to much for practically the same player.

Not going to happen. Apparently the Suns (read: Steve Kerr) put the offer out there. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

[VonErichLives]

Cavs need to pull something off and win it all to have a real shot at Lebron staying, otherwise expect him to care more about winning then money.

Celtics have a max contract they can offer next summer, not sure exactly what that means, but I think Ray Allen comes off the books....

man... KG at PF, Lebron at SF, Pierce at SG...

[RP]

not happening

[Loose Cannon]

Not saying they are going to get him or anything, pretty sure they got enough shooting guards right now - but I think AI in a system like that would be fun to watch.

I also don't think the Knicks are going to get Stephen Curry, he might not be on the board when they pick. I think James Harden would be a good fit for the Knicks, don't think he will fall that far though.

yea, I've read a bunch of things online that the Knicks want him and Curry wants to play there. Here's one article from this week

http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/ny-spknix1312875035jun12,0,3396482.story

I am a huge fan of his just seeing him play here when he came to UNC Charlotte and then of course in the 2008 tourney. I would love that to get done.

With AI, he was my fav player at one point, but he just seems to make teams worse now. I think your Celtics would actually be a better spot for him cause he'll be around guys that can kind of put him in place. Kind of like a Marbury deal. One year or something

[Krimzon7]

No fucking way is that happening. LEbron is NYC bound if he's going anywhere.

[OssMan]

http://zip.4chan.org/sp/src/1245371819365.jpg

[Triple Naitch]

Good for you, Paul.

[The Gold Standard]

If Kobe opts out, he will probably resign right?

[Juan]

Yeah, I've heard he might opt out to make some salary space to help keep Odom, Ariza and Brown.

[Juan]

All indications are that Jerry Buss and Mitch Kupchak will do whatever it takes to keep all three. All three of them want to stay.

[The Gold Standard]

Ariza could get a huge amount on the market if he wanted i think

[Juan]

Yeah he could. Dude came up big in the playoffs

[Triple Naitch]

I could see a lower team like Memphis try to offer him the full mid-level.

[Juan]

They can offer all they want, but Ariza is not going anywhere.

[Triple Naitch]

I'm not saying he'll take it.

[Juan]

I know

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What about LeBron to the Clippers in 2010? He would have Blake Griffin & Eric Gordon as his supporting cast...

[Juan]

that would be awesome, imo

[Hanso Amore]

Iverson to the Bobcats would be good IMHO, but they dont have the space to sign him. They really fucked up their cap room bringing in Diop, Nazr, Diaw and Bell. Felton is a free agent and they are going to have to resign him, and they are already over the cap.

Jefferson is way better than Amare, I just dont get that trade...plus adding in the 6th pick? WHAT?

Jefferson is going to be the number 2 big man in the NBA behind Howard for a long time. The Wolves need to dump cardinal and Miller, and sign a real PG. Maybe the an lure Felton, or maybe they go for a guy like Jarrett Jack. Jefferson/Love will be a nice start, they can add.

I think Gordon to the Pistons is wrong, I think they are going to break the bank for Boozer.

Gordon to the Thunder could be a surprise.

Westbrook, Gordon, Durant, Green and Thabeet in the draft....thats a hell of a starting 5 to grow together.

I think Zack Randolph, Marcus Campby or Chris Kaman move before the draft.

If they do find a way to move Wallace for Shaq, and Wallace retires, the Suns would then have 16 million in cap room, right? Hello Trevor Ariza and random Center? That would be a major coup.

[Hanso Amore]

What about LeBron to the Clippers in 2010? He would have Blake Griffin & Eric Gordon as his supporting cast...

Think they would still have Baron Davis.

Dont think they have the Cap room in 2010. I think Randolph, Kaman and Davis are signed past 2010.

[SammyG]

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[DaveWadding]

Kinda off topic but the 2010 class is straight up ridiculous, look at some of these guys;

Jason Richardson (opt-out)

don't see this on any list anywhere. According to RotoWorld he's not an FA until 2011.

That said, I dont see what the Suns are clearing cap right now. After this year, Nash (will prob be resigned though), Shaq and Amare come off the books. Clearing Shaq and Amare means they'll have almost $40 mil free in that 2010 summer, and that's not even counting a reduced contract for Steve. After those 3 expire, they will have J-Rich ($14.5 mil) and Barbosa (at like $7 mil) as the only BIG contracts they have. I dont see when they are so eager to trade away free money during a great FA class like the 2010 one. Don't get it.

[Krimzon7]

If they get rid of Shaq to the Cavs, the Suns would get to clear money with Ben Wallace retiring this year. They would clear money INSTANTLY, which will definitely help them avoid a luxury tax. If you can't contend for a chip (realistically) then that tax is a heavy price to pay for mediocre. You can shave money, add some quality depth, and make a solid splash in 2010.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

don't see this on any list anywhere. According to RotoWorld he's not an FA until 2011. My bad, I meant Richard Jefferson from the Bucks. Dunno why I put Jason Richardson

[Brujesino]

Monta Ellis yet again had to denounce trade rumors

stephen jackson is weighing 240 but says its a good thing cuz he can run better and overall is in better shape then he use to be he says he will cut his weight to 230 or 235 to play

Anthiny Randolph has added weight on and is working on a consistent mid range game

i think the warriors should draft Jordan Hill or Brandon Jennings this year

[RP]

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Is that Kobe with Kim Kardashian?

[SammyG]

No, that's Kobe's wife, Vanessa.

[Loose Cannon]

who is that Purto Rican on the right playing a little pocket pool?

[The Gold Standard]

One year from now the Knicks will gave LeBron!!

[Loose Cannon]

Lebron James and Steph Curry. :yes:

But you know the Knicks and there fucking draft picks.

and the NY Knicks select.....out of Iceland, Radmmira Vokalaj.

AHHH WTF :mad:

[Juan]

lol

[VonErichLives]

ok... let's assume the Cavs don't win it all next year.

The only thing they'll have is they can sign Lebron for more then anyone else.

So, clearly if he leaves, it's not about the money.

it's for a chance to win... and money will be a factor but not the top factor.

Boston will have a max contract to offer, a good team and good young players Rondo, Davis, Perkins, (ok, that assumes Davis is back).

I know the whole NY thing, I just can't see them having a better chance to win at that point then Boston... but anything is possible.

Did I also see Dirk is on the FA list next year? think he gets tired of being the bridesmaid and opts to go somewhere to try and win?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Knicks aren't gonna win a championship with or without LeBron. The whole playing no defense whats so ever and "7 seconds or less" offensive strategy isn't going to win shit. It's exciting to watch but championships aren't won that way.

I thought I read somewhere that the Clippers could offer LeBron the max - maybe not though.

Would be so sick if the Celtics got him, would have to ditch #23 tho. I don't think that'll happen - I'm guessing he stays in Cleveland

[RatedGSuperstar]

Yeah, I don't think LeBron's going anywhere. I have friends who are Knicks fans convinced that they're getting LeBron and Bosh next year, but I think they have a much better chance stealing Dwyane Wade away from Miami. Cleveland's going to offer more than anyone else and they'll still be the team best set up for a Finals run in the East.

The Bucks are pretty much doomed this offseason, which is a big part of why I'm finding myself care less and less about the franchise every day. They easily could've had the money to extend Ramon Sessions and Charlie Villanueva, but they stupidly held onto Richard Jefferson and his bloated contract because they thought they could make the playoffs last year. It's the same short-sighted bullshit we saw with Larry Harris running the team. A sane, successful GM would've shipped Jefferson to Cleveland for expiring contracts.

Instead, they're doomed. They have one year left on Jefferson's fat contract that you might as well eat to free up some long-term salary. Michael Redd is still collecting checks on a max contract he never should've gotten in the first place. They're going to lose a guy who will eventually develop into an All-Star point guard in Sessions because of it, and Villanueva isn't worth whatever he's going to get on the open market.

They could conceivably match any offer Sessions gets, but if they do, they won't have any money to sign their lottery pick. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they take some shitty European player they have no intention of bringing over for three years. That's how much of a trainwreck this franchise is now.

[Krimzon7]

DAMMIT RGS, sorry to read.

[Hanso Amore]

Lebron James and Steph Curry. :yes:

But you know the Knicks and there fucking draft picks.

and the NY Knicks select.....out of Iceland, Radmmira Vokalaj.

AHHH WTF :mad:

Knicks? THe jets too.

Jeff Laggerman.

[VonErichLives]

Cleveland will be able to offer the most money, but if they don't make a big move and the Cavs don't make the finals again, it wont be about the money, it will be about winning a championship.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Can the Cavs really offer that much more money though? I know they can offer a little more than a max contract since he currently plays for them, but he would still be getting a max deal elsewhere.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Cleveland will be able to offer the most money, but if they don't make a big move and the Cavs don't make the finals again, it wont be about the money, it will be about winning a championship.

At the same time, where could he go that would offer him a better chance at winning a championship that also has the cap space to sign him? Teams like the Knicks that are actively clearing space for next summer are still going to be further from an NBA title than Cleveland, even with James on their roster.

I used to think that James was a goner, but with the way the East has played out the past couple years -- Detroit fading to an also-ran, Boston's window closing, and only Orlando really standing in their way -- I think it's likely that LeBron returns to Cleveland. The only question is if he signs a huge extension or only signs on for like two or three more years in Cleveland to try to win a title there. That way he'd have a very good chance at competing for a championship while still keeping his options open for that huge contract while still in his prime.

[Krimzon7]

RGS, this is an awesome point. LeBron won't be signing any 20 year contracts.

[Krimzon7]

Did anyone hear about the Celtics/Pistons proposed trade? Rondo and Allen to Pistons for Rip, Prince, and Chauncey Stuckey. Dumars laughed uncontrollably before telling Ainge to fuck off.

[RP]

CAnt go bad with Chauncy Stuckey

[Brujesino]

looks like the bucks traded richard jefferson to the spurs for bruce bowen,kurt thomas and frabicio oberto

[Hanso Amore]

looks like the bucks traded richard jefferson to the spurs for bruce bowen,kurt thomas and frabicio oberto

wow, making cap room for 2010.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Expected that Bowen and Oberto will be waived and return to San Antonio. This saves the Bucks enough money to be able to re-sign Sessions or Villanueva without going over the luxury tax, as well as some cap room for next year and a shit ton of cap room in 2011 when Redd and Gadzuric come off the books. Still would've preferred that the dealt Jefferson to Cleveland for Szczerbiak's expiring deal, but this isn't bad. At least now they can afford to sign a draft pick.

[Brujesino]

if the spurs can get sheed in free agency the spurs look great on paper

of course if no one offers sheed 8 mill a year he says hes gonna retire

[Hanso Amore]

if the spurs can get sheed in free agency the spurs look great on paper

of course if no one offers sheed 8 mill a year he says hes gonna retire

Its the Spurs...they look good on paper always, even before this move.

[Hanso Amore]

I think it is a bad move though, I dont think jefferson fits in with them.

[Hanso Amore]

They should also instate the Alan Houston rule one more time.

[Triple Naitch]

T'Wolves are sending Mike Miller and Randy Foye to the Wizards for the #5 pick and a bunch of scrubs. Minnesota will have the #5 and #6 picks and are said to be holding on to both.

[Hanso Amore]

Amazing trade for Minnesota....wow.


Wiashington could roll with Arenas, Miller, Butler, Jamison.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah I heard Washington wanted another veteran piece to add to the mix and not a rookie. T-Wolves got what 4 1st round now picks now right? Pretty funny considering they went so many years without having a 1st rounder due to a violation they had with Joe Smith or something.

[Hanso Amore]

WTF? Oberto to Detroit for Amir johnson

Also, Etan thomas, Songaila and Pecherov to minnesota in the draft pick trade.

Those scubrs make the trade not that amazing.

[Triple Naitch]

Sixers are going back to the old school 76ers logo. :love: kinda.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow didn't realize Randy Foye averaged 16PPG last year, that's more than Miller

[Brujesino]

Wow didn't realize Randy Foye averaged 16PPG last year, that's more than Miller

indeed

though most likely his ppg will go down with the wiz

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Definitely but I was assuming Miller was the "main part" of the trade at first.

[Loose Cannon]

fuck, I can see the T-Wolves taking Curry at 5 or 6. Knicks desperately want him

[Triple Naitch]

Tyreke Evans and Brandon Jennings would fit in better for Minnesota.

[DaveWadding]

Have I mentioned that I desperately want the Suns to take Earl Clark? cause I do.

[Hanso Amore]

Tyreke Evans and Brandon Jennings would fit in better for Minnesota.

Good call.

Add young PG and SG to their twin Towers, Love and Jefferson, and they have a potential solid team in 3 years.

[RP]

I want the Celtics to trade Rhondo for like Foster, the 13th pick and TJ ford.

Can this happen pls?

[RatedGSuperstar]

Speculation that Minnesota desperately wants Rubio and would be willing to throw their multiple first rounders away to move up and get him.

Suns agree to trade Shaq to Cleveland for Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, the 46th overall pick, and cash.

[DaveWadding]

Suns agree to trade Shaq to Cleveland for Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic.

Salary dumps because your owner is a retarded piece of shit...tell me how my ass taste :(

now I gotta get another new Suns jersey this year...fuuuuck.

[SammyG]

lol at Cleveland fans being like CHAAAMPIONSHIP on message boards and shit because of Shaq. Hell, now I kinda want cleveland in the finals next year, just so Kobe can shit on Shaq and ask him how his ass taste.

[ClockShot]

Great trade.

The problem is Big Ben is considering retirement. If he does hang 'em up, what's plan B?

[RoXer]

WOuld have preferred the Shaq for Peja and Chandler trade. Even with his injury problems I think he Peja would have fit exceptioanly well on this team.

I think I read had they not traded Shaq and kept Kobe they would have saved 21 mil instead of 5.5.

lol

[Krimzon7]

Sammy G how in the bloody fuck can you be serious? For a team who has to maneuver money to sign their current team, and with a coach who wants to only coach home games... Yeah, Kobe will DEFINITELY BE BACK IN THE FINALS.

[Krimzon7]

Great trade.

The problem is Big Ben is considering retirement. If he does hang 'em up, what's plan B?

Big Ben retiring IS plan A! They want to buy him out, and dump the contracts.

[Hanso Amore]

am I right in thinking that if Wallace retires, the suns get cap room right away?

[SammyG]

You're an idiot. The idea was thrown out there for P-Jax to coach only home games. It was never a real possibility, not even really considered. Just something that was mentioned. Fuck.

Also, Ariza and Odom are both being brought back. Barring injuries, I guarentee the Lakers make the finals once again.

[Hanso Amore]

You're an idiot. The idea was thrown out there for P-Jax to coach only home games. It was never a real possibility, not even really considered. Just something that was mentioned. Fuck.

Also, Ariza and Odom are both being brought back. Barring injuries, I guarentee the Lakers make the finals once again.

They will definitely be top 3 in the West again. I dont see anyone in the West really improving at all, so the Lakers will stay on top. The Spurs will always be considered until Duncan retires. Phoenix is done. Dallas is over-rated. Nuggets dont really have any options to get better, New Orleans has take steps backwards. There is really no one to challenge them.

Had Portland not had Miles money come back, where they could have signed a top notch FA like Boozer, they would have been serious contenders next year I think. As it stands, I think they are going to land Hinrich in a trade, which would be a GREAT fit. But I dont know of a Hinrich, Roy, Batum, Aldridge, Oden, Pysbilla, Webster, Outlaw, Fernandez team, as DEEP as it is, will be enough to ever get by the Lakers.

[Loose Cannon]

Shaq to Cleveland I am not sure about and was kind of skeptical how it would work when I first heard about it. I think if Shaq plays as good as he did this year, it will open up a lot of space for James. But Shaq just seems like he just wants to whore in on the Lebron James show. Whatever, I hope Howard punks him honestly.

The Phil Jackson thing I have no problem with. If his players are fine with it, then the whole thing is moot. The Lakers have good veteran players on the team, that I really don't see him not being there making a huge differance

Should be fun tonight. I hoping Curry or Flynn to NY

[RP]

I'm pretty sure Indiana is drafting someone from North Carolina.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Looking forward to the draft even though the Celtics didn't pick until the 2nd to last pick in the 2nd round.

Also don't care about the Shaq to Cleveland trade, he is going to miss like 30 games during the regular season and it's not gonna be a huge difference once the playoffs role around. Still are going to struggle with Orlando's big guards and the Celtics will be back to 100% so whatever. Wonder if Steve Nash is gonna try to go to the Knicks now though? He can opt-out after next season

[Krimzon7]

You're an idiot. The idea was thrown out there for P-Jax to coach only home games. It was never a real possibility, not even really considered. Just something that was mentioned. Fuck.

Also, Ariza and Odom are both being brought back. Barring injuries, I guarentee the Lakers make the finals once again.


I am no more an idiot, than you are a hopless fanatic. It isn't written in stone that your beloved P jax is coming back. And do you honestly think that this title won't go to Kobe's head? Do you think this notoriously soft team will have enough killer instinct to WANT to repeat?

[Hanso Amore]

I am no more an idiot, than you are a hopless fanatic. It isn't written in stone that your beloved P jax is coming back. And do you honestly think that this title won't go to Kobe's head? Do you think this notoriously soft team will have enough killer instinct to WANT to repeat?

I dont dis-agree, but like I said too, who in the west are going to beat them? Yao is another year older, with another injury, and more wear and tear. T Mac is a Shell. Houston is not a legit contender. The Spurs are the only team that can really match up with everyone, and they are getting old. The Mavericks are in salary cap hell, and might lose Kidd. The West is no longer the dominant conference, especially if Boozer lands in Detroit.

[DaveWadding]

Rockets mulling over a deal that would send T-Mac's Expiring Contract/Corpse, Landry and Brooks to Phoenix for Amare and Barbosa.

Houston = CHAAAMPIONSHIP

[Hanso Amore]

Rockets mulling over a deal that would send T-Mac's Expiring Contract/Corpse, Landry and Brooks to Phoenix for Amare and Barbosa.

Houston = CHAAAMPIONSHIP

If they resign Aretest and make that trade, perhaps. I just dont like Barb as a franchise PG...

[DaveWadding]

if the trade was made, I'd lay money the Rockets ring up Minnesota and give them $3mil for the 18th pick and take Brandon Jennings or one of the other guys available.

[Hanso Amore]

I think Jennings might be gone, but it would be a good idea.

Where are you gets getting these rumors?

[Loose Cannon]

Lebron to the Knicks for Madison Sqaure Garden

[DaveWadding]

I think Jennings might be gone, but it would be a good idea.

Where are you gets getting these rumors?

The Amare/Rockets rumour came from Vecsey in the NY Post:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06252009/sports/moresports/wolves_on_path_of_kahn_176015.htm?page=2

I should have known Vecsey is always full of shit, but I started freaking out right away instead...

but there's been a denial by both sides and now the Suns might be working on a Ben Wallace for Tyson Chandler deal...

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/56239

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Lakers sell the 29th pick of the draft to the Knicks for $3 million</font>

[Loose Cannon]

lol Chandler for Wallace? what? that would be a steal for Phoenix.

hmmm, Knicks trying to give 8 and 29 for a lower spot tonight?

[RoXer]

but there's been a denial by both sides and now the Suns might be working on a Ben Wallace for Tyson Chandler deal...

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/56239

But...but...what about Peja?

:(:(

[Triple Naitch]

Magic could be getting Vince Carter by the end of the night. :eek:

[DaveWadding]

Vinsanity for Reefer, Courtney Lee and Tony "I am totally fuckkin useless" Battie.

[Brujesino]

carter to magic

most likely turkoglu is gone

warriors are in the running for amare stoudamire i doubt it happens though

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Trade sounds great for the Magic but I dunno, VC is getting up there and Courtney Lee was only a rookie this year - gotta assume he is gonna improve a bit. Plus he was one of the better defenders at the guard spot but at the same time I guess he wasn't exactly a premier defensive player either.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Short term it's a solid deal for the Magic if they know they can't bring back Hedo at a reasonable price. Carter's better than Lee right now, and probably still a little better than Hedo, too. The only problem is that you knew Hedo would go out and play every night...good luck getting Vince Carter to care much about anything before February.

[Loose Cannon]

STEPH CURRY COME ON DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Loose Cannon]

Thabeet = Bust

[Loose Cannon]

great story about him though.

[Loose Cannon]

This Rubio kid is like 14 years old.

[SammyG]

wow if Minn gets Rubio and Curry here

[Loose Cannon]

lol Rubio

"I'm ricky rubio, I'm not like anybody else" that's awesome

[Loose Cannon]

woah, Flynn goes to the T-WOLVES

Cuse :cool:

[SammyG]

Knicks one pick away from Curry..

[Loose Cannon]

you got to be fucking kidding me right now

[SammyG]

rofllllllllllllllll

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Back to back PGs for the T-Wolves? Are they making moves you think?

lol @ crowd's reaction to Curry - Wonder who the Knicks take now? Some random guy from Iceland we have never heard of?

[Loose Cannon]

ugh, wtf. unbelievable. And Flynn is gone.

[Dragon]

Wow, thought Curry was gonna get to the Knicks.

[ClockShot]

WHO?!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

lol Jordan Hill

[Dragon]

LOL. Figured it would be Hill. Must feel nice to be booed by the Knicks fans already.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Could be good you never know but such a typical NY pick here - all this build up for something then nothing

[Loose Cannon]

jesus christ, a real winner they just picked. this guy has jail time all over him

[ClockShot]

DONNIE! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING!

[Loose Cannon]

Donnie Walsh, please shut the fuck up

[Miotch]

Can't believe Rubio fell to MN at the 5th pick...

Can't believe we drafted 2 point guards back to back...

Don't believe we'll keep them both...

Don't know which I'd rather have, though it's probably Rubio...

Which means I'm sure the MN brass will trade Rubio and he'll be an all-star point guard for years to come while Flynn never becomes anything more than marginal.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think Terrence Williams is gonna be a good NBA player - think he had a NBA game while in college

[Loose Cannon]

I agree

lol watch the Bobcats take one of the Carolina boys

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I think Terrence Williams is gonna be a good NBA player - think he had a NBA game while in college

Absolutely, I think this is a great pick.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I agree

lol watch the Bobcats take one of the Carolina boys

That's what we do... Without fail :(

[Loose Cannon]

they probably will just because they would be more of a draw and they need fans here desperately

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I'm very annoyed I have to pull for NJ now that Skip is there btw. (Yes, I'm a player fan, not a team fan, I don't pay enough attention to the NBA anymore to back one team outside of Carolna being the home team).

[HeartBreakMan2k]

they probably will just because they would be more of a draw and they need fans here desperately

True, but really how many people drive from Chap Hill to go watch the Bobcats. I do it like... once in a blue moon and I'm closer than that.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, but everyone here is a Carolina fan, Chapel Hill resisdents or not. Carolina is more popular then anything.

[Loose Cannon]

LOL DUKE

[HeartBreakMan2k]

True.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

lol, without fucking fail.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Not a huge fan to be honest. Not enough size for me, athletic or not.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Also, the NBA just needs to go ahead and tell Carolina/Duke/Etc that whoever goes pro is going to stay in the state provided we have an early pick. :(

[RoXer]

Jordan Hill is a good player and will fit well in D'Antoni's system so shut the fuck new york you cunts

[Loose Cannon]

god, now this faggot

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Very, very good pick up for the Pacers. I hate him, but he'll fit in well with how they're going to play.

[Loose Cannon]

sorry, can't stand Hansbrough

[Dragon]

Jordan Hill is a good player and will fit well in D'Antoni's system so shut the fuck new york you cunts

Yeah, after Curry was gone I figured they'd take him. He was pretty much the right pick after Curry was taken.

Obviously NY wanted Curry though. Still stupid to boo when Hills name was called.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

sorry, can't stand Hansbrough

Oh I agree completely, I just think he's a good pickup for them. Larry Legend could bring him along fairly well in terms of an NBA game though.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Man, how nice is it to watch a draft with zero input from Mel Kiper and Todd McShay

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Austin Daye - 6'11, 192 lbs

eat something, big man

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Dickie V thinks Hansbrough is gonna be a good pro. Shocking.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

It would be but Jay Bilas is the biggest hater in the World

He's kinda toned it down as the draft has gone but at first wow - the dude just shitted on every guy picked and kept talking about their weaknesses. Guy needs to relax and realize his job isn't that serious, I mean anyone who has watched Thabeet once knows he is currently a weak offensive player. He doesn't need to cram it down everyone's throats and say it over and over.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

are the Sixers changing their image

theyve got the old throwback logo on the screen

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LOL what are the Wolves doing

3 point guards

[Juan]

are the Sixers changing their image

theyve got the old throwback logo on the screen

Yeah new logo for next season

[Gertner]

Jazz take Eric Maynor...............................WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU TAKE A FUCKING POINT GUARD WHEN BOOZER IS LEAVING!!!!!!!!!!!! SAM YOUNG WAS RIGHT THERE! GOD DAMN IT!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

New Orleans filling that big hole at point guard

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What the fuck? I dropped off a couple Cosby's and I come back and see Lawson went the T-Wolves?

[Gertner]

stupid fucking team. Let's take a guy at 20 who will play 8 minutes a damn game being stuck behind D-Will. Fucking Jazz. Sam Young is a Paul Millsap clone. Damn it,

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

An Israeli just got drafted by the Kings, there goes Kings' Palestinian fan-base

[Triple Naitch]

I love watching David Stern try and pronounce foreign names. :lol:

[Triple Naitch]

The best was when the T'Wolves drafted Ndudi Ebi and he called him Doodie. :rofl:

[DaveWadding]

I read that the Wolves are trading Lawson to the Nuggets.

[DaveWadding]

Have I mentioned that I desperately want the Suns to take Earl Clark? cause I do.

http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2171309/bam-main_Full.jpg

BAM!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

DARKO'S A KNICK

[Loose Cannon]

yay..

[Supreme Olajuwon]

got rid of Q though so I guess that's good

[RatedGSuperstar]

I'm late, but I really really really hate Brandon Jennings. Another stupid lottery pick for this team...ugh. It's like Minnesota took Flynn and John Hammond was like "oh shit oh shit oh shit...quick...come up with somebody else."

You take a point guard whose ESPN profile says "Must Improve: Decision Making"?? Really? And good luck getting him to stay past his rookie contract...how do you think a kid from Compton is going to like Milwaukee? Whatever...at least they didn't take a white guy just because he can dunk this year. I still would've preferred Jrue Holliday.

[DaveWadding]

This trade will be finalized Wednesday

Warriors get:
Amare Stoudemire

Suns get:
Andris Biedrins
Brandan Wright
Marco Belinelli
Stephen Curry


SCH-WING!

[Hanso Amore]

Holy Fuck

WOW

Great for the suns, I honestly think Wright has the chance to be a stud if can ever get on the court. Biedrins is a potential All star. Curry and Bellinelli can become real solid players.

Bad move for the warriors. They should have gotten rid of maggette. Why trade a good center and parts for a guy who will refuse to play center?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

LOL Wolves get Calathes

1 more for batch

[Brujesino]

This trade will be finalized Wednesday

Warriors get:
Amare Stoudemire

Suns get:
Andris Biedrins
Brandan Wright
Marco Belinelli
Stephen Curry


SCH-WING!
i hear its dead cuz amare doesnt want to sign a extension with the warriors so obviously they dont want to rent amare for a year while giving everyone up

[SammyG]

ROFL Biedrins is a potential All-Star? WHAT?!

[SammyG]

Phil coming back, bitches. Back to back.

[RP]

I cant even think of a reason why i dont like Hansborough, i just never liked him because it was cool not to like him. That being said, this is who i thought we would pick. I thought it was him or Lawson, but Tyler made more sense. I kind of like the pick. We dont need a superstar PF. What we need is what Hansborough will bring. I think he's going to be a 16 and 10 guy. I love putting him on the frontline with Roy Hibbert. And our scoring will come from Granger and Rush ( who was outstanding the last month of the season and will have a huge year this coming season ). Our PG situation is decent. I love Jarrett Jacks leadership. I like TJ alot as long as he buys into the system more and stays injury free.

My biggest question is what will happen with Troy Murphy. To be honest, now is the best time to try and trade him. They wont get any more value from Murphy then right now after he's coming off a 14 points, 10 rebounds, 45% 3pnt percentage year. I dont want to trade him, but we need to commit to Tyler Hansborough. We need toughness in the middle and Murphy is an outside guy who gets rebounds. We need inside toughness. Guys who will pound in low and peal defenders off Danny and Brandon.

Trading Murphy imo should happen. But if it dont, hell, more depth.

I really like this Pacers team this coming season. They will definitly make the playoffs. Might even win a round depending on Grangers continued development and the development of Rush and Hibbert. Bird has done a great job of rebuilding this team with good young players.

I have no clue what he was thinking drafting AJ Price tho. I mean this guy is another Tinsley waiting to happen.

[RP]

People are really killing Indiana for this pick. I think they're gunna be wrong. I'd rather have Hansbrough then most, if not all of the projects that got drafted after him in this weak ass draft.

Also, Dan Wetzel is killing him for being 6'8. Everything i've read says he's 6'10. Plus no one takes into consideration Indy's uptempo offense which i think Hansbrough will fit decently into. He's not being asked to come in and be some superstar stud, nor should he be expected to. There's like maybe 4 studs in this whole draft. Everything else is a crap shoot. So i'm fine with the Hansbrough pick. He's going to be a pretty good powerforward of the likes of a Udanis Haslem . I'll take that. Thats what Indy needs.

[Hanso Amore]

ROFL Biedrins is a potential All-Star? WHAT?!

The dude is goo for 15, 11 and 2 blocks a game in a Guard ran run and gun system.

in Phoenix, I bet he will pull slightly better number, which were already good. 7 Footers with that skill level are far and few between.

[Gertner]

The center position isn't very deep. Not many in the west. Okur, Biedrins, Bynum..... not really a whole lot else.

[Hanso Amore]

The center position isn't very deep. Not many in the west. Okur, Biedrins, Bynum..... not really a whole lot else.

Exactly.

Which is why he is valuable anda potential all star.

There is a complete lack of legit centers these days.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Don't forget about Yao and Jefferson

But yeah Biedrins is good. 3rd in the league in FG%, 4th in the league in rebounding. Pretty decent numbers

[Triple Naitch]

So now Rubio might stay in Spain for a couple of years. Minnesota just completely fucked themselves.

[Brujesino]

as a warriors fan i dont want amare we dont need another scorer who cant defend

[Hanso Amore]

Word is Rubio wants to play in a big city or he goes back to Spain.

Right now they are thinking Rubio to the Knicks for Wilson Chandler and Hill

[RatedGSuperstar]

From Bill Simmons' annual draft diary:

4:51: I have to come clean: If the Zombie Sonics take Rubio or Curry, they will be employing my favorite college player of the decade (Kevin Durant); my favorite international player of the decade (Rubio) OR my favorite college player of the past two years (Curry); two other college guys I loved (Jeff Green and Russell Westbrook); and if that's not enough, they have my favorite young coach (Scottie Brooks) and my favorite GM who didn't go to MIT (Sam Presti). At some point, all these things will override "They have scummy owners who hijacked the team from Seattle." I don't trust myself to handle this well. I am an only child. I'm selfish. I care about me only. And if I'm watching 75 Zombie Sonics games next season, at some point, I'm going to want to go to one.

Just know that, if I switch to the dark side, I won't do it half-assed. It will be like when Hulk Hogan joined the nWo. I'd see my editor (and die-hard Seattle fan) Kevin Jackson at the ESPYS, shake his hand, pretend to be nice, then hit him with a steel chair, do 10 leg drops on him and rip off my Hugo Boss suit to reveal a jersey of the Team That Shall Not Be Named as Erin Andrews screams, "Nooooooo! Nooooooo!" like Tony Schiavone. You'll get your money's worth. So again, I'm giving you a heads-up now. OK? OK.

Simmons is hit and miss, but I thought that part was pretty good.

[Dragon]

Word is Rubio wants to play in a big city or he goes back to Spain.

Right now they are thinking Rubio to the Knicks for Wilson Chandler and Hill

Definitely seems like a lot for a guy that seems to be leaning more towards going back to Spain from what I've read.

[Hanso Amore]

Definitely seems like a lot for a guy that seems to be leaning more towards going back to Spain from what I've read.

The idea in going to NY is Rubio wants to play in a big city or he goes back. If he gets the trade, he will stay.

He is basically being Eli Manning.

If he cant play for the team he wants, he is taking his ball back to Europe.

[Dragon]

The idea in going to NY is Rubio wants to play in a big city or he goes back. If he gets the trade, he will stay.

He is basically being Eli Manning.

If he cant play for the team he wants, he is taking his ball back to Europe.

Yeah, I know. It just doesn't seem like the TWolves have that much leverage with a deal. He obviously doesn't want to be there so if they want something from him they have to deal him. And it seems the Knicks are the only team I've heard him wanting to play for.

I could see something like Hill/Robinson for Rubio. Can't imagine the Knicks would give up Chandler and Hill.

[Hanso Amore]

Robinson and Hill would be a good deal. But that would leave Minnesota with the shortest backcourt in the NBA (Flynn and Robinson)

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Heard his dad wants him to stay in Europe, come on I know he's pretty young but give me a break. Let the kid make his own decision

I don't think Hansborough is gonna be a 16 & 10 guy - that would be borderline star potential. He could be a decent bench guy though

[Hanso Amore]

Hansbrough is too small, not athletic enough, and his style will be neutralized.

What made him a great collge player is going to be his downfall in the NBA.

He will probably end up like a Mark Madsen type player...

[Hanso Amore]

RP is really buying way too much into his team...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Where's Charlie Villanueva gonna end up? He could help the Cavs a lot since they still don't have anyone that can guard guys like Rashad Lewis or Lamar Odom

[Hanso Amore]

He is going to want a good chunk...might settle for the mid level money to the cavs. Would be a good fit. They need someone to suck up some minutes at PF.

[ClockShot]

We got Darko. Sheesh.

Anywho, just flashed on ESPNews that the Knicks are gonna place a call to the T-Wolves about getting Rubio. That should be good.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Where's Charlie Villanueva gonna end up? He could help the Cavs a lot since they still don't have anyone that can guard guys like Rashad Lewis or Lamar Odom

And with Charlie Villanueva, they still wouldn't have anyone that can guard guys like Rashard Lewis or Lamar Odom. ;)

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

haha that may be true but at least he would be a better match up than anyone they have right now.

[Hanso Amore]

what do the numbers on the balls that the players are picture with mean?

[Juan]

The jersey number, i believe

[Hanso Amore]

I though so too, but none of them matchg up....Blake griffin is not number 84...

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think it's the year the team was established

-edit
Just looked it up and the Clippers were established in '70 so I'm not sure.

Dunno what else they could mean, I'm not even totally sure what pictures you are even talking about though so I'm just basing it off of Griffin and the #84 ball you mentioned.

-edit again lol

The Clippers moved to LA in '84 so that must be it......

[Juan]

Yeah, you're exactly right. The year the team was established.

[SammyG]

lol @ Rubio. Who the hell does he think he is?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Maybe he thinks he is Eli Manning, since he did the same exact thing

[Hanso Amore]

The idea in going to NY is Rubio wants to play in a big city or he goes back. If he gets the trade, he will stay.

He is basically being Eli Manning.

If he cant play for the team he wants, he is taking his ball back to Europe.

Beat you to it Stima

[Hanso Amore]

And thanks for catching the balls numbering reasons. Seems kind of obscure.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Part of me thinks Minnesota anticipated this happening, which is why they drafted Jonny Flynn, too. They hold the rights to Rubio, and like their GM has been saying, they don't really care if he stays in Europe at this point because they're not going to win anytime soon, anyway. They ultimately hold his rights, and right now, if he wants to play in the NBA anytime soon, he'll have to play for Minnesota. I think they have a lot more leverage than people are giving them credit for. They're probably better off letting Rubio further develop in Europe (maybe he'll develop an actual jumpshot...who knows) and wait until his contract buyout isn't so large. I think part of the problem is that Rubio needs to pay the team $6 million, and under league rules, the NBA team can only pay like $500,000 of a buyout...Rubio didn't even make $1 million this year from what I remember.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Yeah that's why he wants the bigger market I'd assume, more opportunities for endorsements to pay off that pay out. Pretty crazy that NBA teams can only play half a mil though, the Red Sox paid 51 million for Daisuke

[Hanso Amore]

Yeah that's why he wants the bigger market I'd assume, more opportunities for endorsements to pay off that pay out. Pretty crazy that NBA teams can only play half a mil though, the Red Sox paid 51 million for Daisuke

I love that rule, it keeps the rich from having an advantage at foreign talent.

Imagine if the Royals actually had a chance at Japanese players....

[Triple Naitch]

Yao Ming may not play next year and could possibly be done for his career. :eek:

[Triple Naitch]

http://www.espn.go.com/media/pg2/2005/0928/photo/g_muresan_195.jpg

[Juan]

My Giant

[SammyG]

Poor Yao.

[RP]

I hope the Pacers make a run at Jason Kidd

[Krimzon7]

Bucks will not attempt to resign VIllanwhoever. Sucks for RGS. Pacers could do a lot better than having Jason Kidd, like maybe Turkagloo.

[Hanso Amore]

Pistons want Gordon and Turkaglu.

Dont see what the plan is with those two would be when they already have Stuckey, Price, Bynum and RIP, and have no bigs worth a damn.

[Hanso Amore]

Bucks will not attempt to resign VIllanwhoever. Sucks for RGS. Pacers could do a lot better than having Jason Kidd, like maybe Turkagloo.

Turk could fit in indy, move Granger to SG

[Brujesino]

if the knicks dont get jason kidd reports are saying they will make a offer to ramon sessions

[Hanso Amore]

THe Knicks make little sense to me.

[Brujesino]

Turk could fit in indy, move Granger to SG

i dont see why turk would go to the pacers

the team isnt very good iam sure he would want to got to a contender

for example the blazers with turk on that team the blazers have a great chance at the 1 and 2 seeds in the west

[Hanso Amore]

i dont see why turk would go to the pacers

the team isnt very good iam sure he would want to got to a contender

for example the blazers with turk on that team the blazers have a great chance at the 1 and 2 seeds in the west

No way.

He is better than Batum and Outlaw, but not that much.

Plus he doesnt fit in there that well.

[Loose Cannon]

not big on Jason Kidd these days.

[RatedGSuperstar]

Kidd's done. The Knicks would be better off signing Sessions to an offer sheet or trying to trade for Rubio.

The Villanueva news doesn't surprise me. Prior to this year he was a pretty big disappointment, and even though his numbers went up in a contract year, he just wasn't going to be brought back. He's not a Scott Skiles player at all. I have no idea where they'll find a replacement, but they're probably better off long-term saving the money and investing it elsewhere.

About a half hour from free agency opening up...I wonder how many deals are going to be announced overnight.

[Brujesino]

No way.

He is better than Batum and Outlaw, but not that much.

Plus he doesnt fit in there that well.

i would disagree hes much better then both outlaw and batum the blazers weakness this season came from the SF position and they needed a good vet blazers were the 2nd youngest team last season

hedo brings and 3 point shot and a extra ball handler which is dangerous having roy coming off screens and blake getting set up for a open 3 point shot

the blazers are the leading team to get him 5 years 50mill offer

i think hedo should take it

[Hanso Amore]

Hedo is just he newest guy to cash in off a hot streak in the payoffs.

He has been an above average player for 5 years, and will continue to be above average...and that is not the kind of player that changes a team from middling to elite.

[Brujesino]

Hedo is just he newest guy to cash in off a hot streak in the payoffs.

He has been an above average player for 5 years, and will continue to be above average...and that is not the kind of player that changes a team from middling to elite.

well i sort of agree all he is is a above avgerage player but for a team like the blazers he could be what makes them take a step forward

brandon roy
lamarcus alridge
greg oden(if healthy)
Hedo

thats a good team to contend with just those rising young stars

[Hanso Amore]

well i sort of agree all he is is a above avgerage player but for a team like the blazers he could be what makes them take a step forward

brandon roy
lamarcus alridge
greg oden(if healthy)
Hedo

thats a good team to contend with just those rising young stars

I thik they should not focus on hedo, and instead work on a trade for Kirk Hinrich.

Send Blake, some picks and Sergio Rodriguez to Chitown for Hinrich.

[Brujesino]

i think they are sending blake to phili for andre miller and thats in discussion right now

so the blazers lineup would be

pg-miller
sg-roy
sf-hedo
pf-alridge
c-oden or pryzbilla

[SammyG]

Wow.. uh... fuck the blazers. lakers can't beat them in portland EVER

[Brujesino]

detroit pistons sign

Ben Gordon-5 yrs 50 mill

Charlie Villenueva-5yr 35 mill

[Brujesino]

Trevor Ariza's agent emerged from a lengthy phone conversation with Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak on Wednesday afternoon convinced that the team isn't as interested in re-signing his client as it claims to be.

"I had a long conversation with Mitch, and I don't think it's going anywhere," agent David Lee said. "I think I'm being optimistic when I say it's not going anywhere."

Lee said Kupchak did not make a contract offer, nor were salary parameters discussed in the ballpark of what he believes Ariza deserves. Ariza already has "several" firm offers from other teams, according to Lee, and will begin speaking with opposing coaches on Thursday.

Asked if he could envision Ariza accepting a deal from another team without speaking to the Lakers again, Lee said, "Yes, we have no choice. That's the position they've put us in."

doesnt look good for the lakers:D

[RP]

doesnt look good for the lakers:D

haha

[Innovator]

detroit pistons sign

Ben Gordon-5 yrs 50 mill

Charlie Villenueva-5yr 35 mill
UCONN

[Triple Naitch]

I'm guessing Villanueva's eyebrows will not be accompanying him on this move either.

[Nervous Ferret]

poor form. :n:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2782571

[McLegend]

Low blow

[RatedGSuperstar]

Q traded for the second time in a week. Grizzlies send him to the Clippers for Zach Randolph: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4301324

[Brujesino]

sets up more playing time for Blake Griffin

though they need to figure out who to trade next Camby or Kaman to give Deandre Jordan some more playing time

[SammyG]

Wow. Bye bye Trevor :( :( :(

I thought Buss would fork out some cash, Jesus Christ. I agree with keeping Odom over Ariza, but still, having both would be awesome.

[Hanso Amore]

I know Randolph is crazy, but he is the low post player the Grizzlies need.

If Gasol, Conley, Gay and Mayo continue to mature, and they can somehow add one more bench piece, they could be a upstart team to make a run at the 8th seed.

[Triple Naitch]

poor form. :n:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2782571

Shit, no idea. My bad. :(

[Hanso Amore]

LOL

I think that shit was hilarious. Disease or not.

At least he doesnt have to worry about shaving his pubes and shit

[Loose Cannon]

Cavs looking to get Ariza now. Also, Lebron and Artest were together recently at some fucntion. They are going after him as well

[Juan]

LOL

I think that shit was hilarious. Disease or not.

At least he doesnt have to worry about shaving his pubes and shit

Yes Hanso, diseases are HILARIOUS.

[Hanso Amore]

Yes Hanso, diseases are HILARIOUS.

Oh god, its a disease that makes him bald...it is funny.

Its not serious. I have a worse disease than him (Thalassemia) so dont try to play that card with me.

The Dude has no eyebrows, and the comment was SUPER funny.

[tman220]

no it wasn't.

[Hanso Amore]

Fuck off, you have no say in this.

[Brujesino]

Cavs looking to get Ariza now. Also, Lebron and Artest were together recently at some fucntion. They are going after him as well


it will be intresting to see if they sign either of those 2

theres been some talk about moving Lebron over to the PF spot

sounds like a crazy lineup they would have

PG-Mo Williams
SG-Delonte West
SF-Ariza or Artest
PF-Lebron James
C-Shaq

[Brujesino]

Oh god, its a disease that makes him bald...it is funny.

Its not serious. I have a worse disease than him (Thalassemia) so dont try to play that card with me.

The Dude has no eyebrows, and the comment was SUPER funny.

The disease will get worse over time and i beleive wont just be limited to his hair.

I normally dont try to bring religion into my comments but you need to read the Holy Bible.

It will do you good.:)

[Hanso Amore]

The disease will get worse over time and i beleive wont just be limited to his hair.

I normally dont try to bring religion into my comments but you need to read the Holy Bible.

It will do you good.:)

lol

[tman220]

OMG that was SOOO funny...

[Brujesino]

looks like the lakers signed ron artest

[Juan]

Goodbye Tervor Ariza :(