NBA 2009-2010 Season Thread

[Champion of Europa]

Pacers stomped the Pistons :heart:

[SammyG]

Regular season, so what, we'll punk them in the playoffs.

[Brujesino]

brandon roy might miss the all star game

i hope monta ellis gets in:y:

[SammyG]

You GOTTA put Bynum in now

[IC Champion]

brandon roy might miss the all star game

i hope monta ellis gets in:y:

Monte Ellis isnt an all star, hes an overrated player on a terrible team.

[IC Champion]

I shouldn't say overrated, but his stats are only so good because he gets so many looks because his team sucks.

[Juan]

Kobe's not playing tonight against Portland. Wouldn't be surprised one bit if they lose tonight again.

[Juan]

Not that they've had much success with Kobe in the lineup at Portland.

[Brujesino]

I shouldn't say overrated, but his stats are only so good because he gets so many looks because his team sucks.

that would be true if he was shooting 40% but hes not hes shooting over 46% also i think is #3 in the league in steals with 2 a game a

so really he can shoot as much as he wants as long as he continues to shoot a great percentage

the only other possibilty to take roys place is chris kaman since the west doesnt have a true center

[Juan]

The Blazers' announce team is awful. The guy on color is not shy about being a homer

[Juan]

I had never heard an announcer say that he hates a player from the opposing team before

[McLegend]

the only other possibilty to take roys place is chris kaman since the west doesnt have a true center

You might end up regretting this post.

[Buzzkill]

The Blazers' announce team is awful. The guy on color is not shy about being a homer
lol yeah Mike Rice, he is absolutely ridiculous

Been announcing for like 25 years, definitely approaching senility if he isn't there already.

He makes the game infinitely more entertaining, and it's hilarious listening to the other Mike (Barrett) having to yank the leash every once in a while when he starts getting too excited. He also drinks heavily throughout games lol

He is the man

With that said, I would absolutely loathe him if I were an opposing fan.

[Buzzkill]

It is honestly as though all the Blazers are his little grand kids out there and he is just so proud of them

[DaveWadding]

LeBron is a beast.

[Gertner]

Utah fucking Jazz. 8 in a row, don't mess.

[Skippord]

I don't think beating the Nuggets without Billups and Anthony should count as a win

[SammyG]

Can't believe the lakers won last night.

[Juan]

Can't believe the lakers won last night.

I don't think they'll win tonight, unfortunately. No Kobe and no Bynum.

[SammyG]

Eh, I think Kobe will suit up.

[SammyG]

The Sacramento Kings are hilarious.

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[RoXer]

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[Brujesino]

You might end up regretting this post.
it has happened

kaman takes roys place in the ASG

[SammyG]

God damn.. Kobe out again.

[Juan]

woooo fuck San Antonio

[SammyG]

Pau was a monster. 21, 19 and 8. Not to mention 5 blocks

[RP]

lol @ Howard calling Vince Carter " Half man, Half Retired ".

[McLegend]

Word is now that the Sixers aren't going to trade anyone, because they think they are contenders in the East... For the 8th seed,

:( Crushing news. Truly devastating.

[McLegend]

Juan was dead on about Blazers announce team. Hilarious stuff.

[SammyG]

I hate their announce team so bad. who says "I HATE KOBE BRYANT"

[DaveWadding]

People who don't have their tongue so far up his ass that they're licking his prostate clean?

[McLegend]

I hate their announce team so bad. who says "I HATE KOBE BRYANT"
Hahahaha God Bless them.

[Juan]

It's one thing for a fan to say it, but announcers shouldn't be flat out homers and should try to be the least bit professional.

[Skippord]

Nuggets crushed the Mavs

[Big Fat Mike]

I know I say this alot but...damn the Knicks stink. Jeffries is taking crunch time shots when his knees are so fucked up that he gets no elevation? Bring on the lebron.

[Buzzkill]

It's one thing for a fan to say it, but announcers shouldn't be flat out homers and should try to be the least bit professional.
Also have to realize that everybody in Portland hates Kobe Bryant so it's generally accepted.

But I do agree with you that Mike Rice is way too much of a homer. Literally argues with every foul call. But I love the old man.

Other Mike (Barrett) is way more down the middle, though.

[Icess]

Farmar played huge tonight, probably killed all those trade rumors

[Emperor Smeat]

It's one thing for a fan to say it, but announcers shouldn't be flat out homers and should try to be the least bit professional.

You have to consider that the main audience for these "homer" announcers will be fans of the team they are covering and if the announcer was a former player or had experience in the NBA, they going to look at things differently than a regular announcer. For example, Tommy Heinsohn is a fanatical homer announcer but that's because he' really shows off the passion of being involved with the Celtics since he's been a former player and announcer with the team for the last 50+ years.

Do agree that its the worst when its a national announcer team like ESPN or TNT who just covers one player or hypes up a match-up while ignoring the rest or has no real attachment with a team except for ratings or marketing. For example, ESPN's over-coverage of Cavs vs Lakers for NBA Finals and TNT's focus on what Lebron decision is on the Dunk Contest at the cost of focusing on the current contest.

[SammyG]

OMG TRADE KOBE AND BYNUM WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER WITHOUT THEM

..jk

[Icess]

The question is could you do it?

You couldn't get value for Bynum at this point, at least I don't think so. Though if you add Kobe for someone (say Wade) and add a 3rd team and grab another young All-Star; well, it certainly becomes plausible. Kobe is aging, and Bynum is plagued with injuries. You certainly will have to look at this conundrum at some point to stay competitive.

I'm not suggesting it, I just want to make to make a point of the depth of the squad. Artest still frustrates me (as shown by an awful game tonight), and I'd still rather have Ariza at this point. That said, Odom and Gasol have played extremely well, and roll players have stepped up their games.

It is conceivable that one could plug other young individuals into those spots. The future baby.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Celtics hit the All-Star break on a good run...

[SammyG]

lol Hornets

[Icess]

Celtics hit the All-Star break on a good run...
Loss to Orlando hurt.

Depends if Cavs make a move (or an Allen/Baby move), but I'm not sure they can continue a run. Age and injuries are a bitch.

lol Hornets
Just bad luck. How soon do we forget CP3's MVP (almost) run?

[SammyG]

I'm sayin the Hornets beat the Celtics.... if I read that ESPN bottom line correctly...

and there is no way in fucking hell I would trade either Kobe or Bynum, you kiddin' me?

[Icess]

Neither would I. It doesn't make sense today. We have the ability to win the championship this year, why would you screw that up?

That said those guys are playing their asses off right now, and if for some reason younger guys like Wade or Durant plus others based on value that were offered... Well, there is reason to consider.

You switch Wade for Byant today, plus another solid guy based again on trade value. We're still in the hunt, if not still favorites. We lose the best player in the game, but it's not infeasible.

I've seen a way to get Blake, Caveman, and Beasly in a three-way. I don't think I could pull that trigger, but we'd shave money off our cap. We'd also make an extremely young team... Well, younger. Just not as unreasonable a theory as you're making it.

[Skippord]

so people who know basketball and enjoy more than me

what are the Denver Nuggets chances of winning an NBA championship this year?

[Icess]

Depends solely on health. If Chauncey and Melo are healthy, you have an extremely fast team. I realistically think you are behind Dallas and LA. Matchups are key, but I predict a repeat in the WCF (as I said before). You're kinda like the Hornets 2 yrs ago. It's gonna depend on who you face (if healthy). Playing the Suns round one, or possibly the Spurs might hurt you.

34% at best.

[CNM]

Dallas is ahead of the Nuggets? LOL. That 36 point loss on Tuesday sure showed that.

[Icess]

In a 7 game... Yeah, I think Dallas can pull it off. I also said I expect the Nugs to the be in the Western Finals. Nugs are simply too complicated.

I stand by the the mid 30% (which is really, really good)

[Brujesino]

the warriors destroyed the clippers :y:

curry is a beast

[SammyG]

Yeah, it'll be a Lakers/Nuggets WCF again, Lakers will win in 6, again.

[DaveWadding]

Suns are better than Dallas. That is all.

[McLegend]

Watch out for the Thunder. They are scary. They have the 2nd best player in the league... Behind Lebron of course

That's right I said it.

[McLegend]

Depending on seeding they might not win a series, but I bet no one wants to play them.

[SammyG]

Kobe, Iverson missin the all star game.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>DAVID LEE</font>

[OssMan]

Wizards trying to trade Caron Butler :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

[Juan]

The Lakers should have never traded Butler away to begin with.

[The Pope]

I thought it was the clippers that had Caron Butler.... anyway, Amare might be traded from Phoenix too from what i've heard

[McLegend]

They have Philadelphia's own from La Salle University Rasual Butler.

[SammyG]

Uh guys. you're missing the main point. TYREKE MVP!

[SammyG]

SHANNON BROWN TIME TONIGHT

[Brujesino]

any trade rumors for your teams?

the warriors rumors are they are trying to get rid of andris bidriens and might include morrow in the package

all i can say is if we can get a superstar big then go for it otherwise keep them both

but i still would want both in the future

[Brujesino]

Wizards trying to trade Caron Butler :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

i think its done man hes going to dallas for josh howard

[Droford]

If The Wizards trade Jamison as well, Howard will be all they have. Maybe he'll be able to stay healthy.

[OssMan]

Three headed monster in Washington never reached its potential. Like 2 playoff appearances. :(

[Droford]

this HORSE stuff is awful

[Buzzkill]

Yeah definitely seems like something that sounded better on paper

[McLegend]

I think this might be the one thing that's better pre-taped

[Droford]

I have all 3 of the 3 pt finalists (Pierce/Curry/Billlups) on my fantasy team and for a time I had Gallinari as well.

I think Curry will win,

[Droford]

unless they get some big names this should be the last dunk contest

[Dragon]

Pretty weak dunks so far.

[Droford]

The dunk Derozan got a 50 on was maybe a 45 at best.

kinda want him to win though, not a Nate fan.

[DaveWadding]

WHATTT I love Nate. Just wanna give him a hug :love:

[Emperor Smeat]

The last dunk Nate did was pretty good, especially because of his height.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

The dunk Derozan got a 50 on was maybe a 45 at best.

kinda want him to win though, not a Nate fan.

I love Nate but yeah, Derozan is who I want to win.

Actually I want Kobe or Vince or Lebron to go slam one down.

[Droford]

cant even vote online..boo

[HeartBreakMan2k]

And based on that last Dunk from Derozan, Nate just won the contest.

[DaveWadding]

Nate wins

[Emperor Smeat]

Lebron was supposed to this year but weenied out a few weeks ago from being serious about it.

I think Kobe and Vince are refusing since both have been in it before and won and have no need to do it again (not sure on Kobe if he won).

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Actually truth be told, I'd rather them let some And1 guys like The Air Up There or 50 or Main come do a dunk showcase...

[DaveWadding]

Next year they really need more...something. Personality, effort, crowd involvement.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Lebron was supposed to this year but weenied out a few weeks ago from being serious about it.

I think Kobe and Vince are refusing since both have been in it before and won and have no need to do it again (not sure on Kobe if he won).


Shaq offered all three a million out of his pocket to the charity of their choice if all three would go at it, Lebron was the only one who was down and wouldn't do it on the basis the other two didn't.

Least that was the rumor I was hearing ages ago.

[DaveWadding]

I hate Skip to My Lou in the NBA, but they need to get him out there or something.

[Droford]

Needs more Dwight Howard Superman dunks

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I hate Skip to My Lou in the NBA, but they need to get him out there or something.

Rafer has done ok for himself. The only And1 player I think could do was is Alimo. He's got some good length and strength on him. I think he'd be a good fit.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

They told them no props this year? I mean, I agree but that still messes with the creativity.

[DaveWadding]

Nate by default.

[Droford]

51%? Really? Recount!

[DaveWadding]

could have used a 12 foot rim this year.

[Emperor Smeat]

Actually truth be told, I'd rather them let some And1 guys like The Air Up There or 50 or Main come do a dunk showcase...

Would be funny if they also involved the Globetrotters as well since they always do crazy stuff in games.

I believe the dunk contest started to lose its specialness once they started to hype storylines and not on the dunks themselves. Last year was horrible just from the commentators alone who either made fun of a few dunkers or kept talking about Nate-Dwight/Lebron.

[DaveWadding]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{NATE}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

[Droford]

Someone should have dunked over one of the cheerleaders.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Would be funny if they also involved the Globetrotters as well since they always do crazy stuff in games.

I believe the dunk contest started to lose its specialness once they started to hype storylines and not on the dunks themselves. Last year was horrible just from the commentators alone who either made fun of a few dunkers or kept talking about Nate-Dwight/Lebron.

I'm not saying that I want a sideshow, but the reality is there are no NBA players worth watching willing to do a dunk contest.

At least guys like Air Up There can do something like a 720. They don't belong in the league, but if we're going to have a dunk contest at least give us something to talk about. Even if it's not NBA players.

[DaveWadding]

dunking over people is so passe. Someone needs to bring back the failed Michael Finley cartwheel from 1997.

[Brujesino]

worst dunk contest EVER:rant:

[McLegend]

Kobe and Vince couldn't a win dunk contest now if they tried.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'm not saying that I want a sideshow, but the reality is there are no NBA players worth watching willing to do a dunk contest.

At least guys like Air Up There can do something like a 720. They don't belong in the league, but if we're going to have a dunk contest at least give us something to talk about. Even if it's not NBA players.

Agree since it would help refresh the dunk contest and help the popularity of And1/Street style basketball. NBA already allows WNBA and the D-League to be part of the All-Star break so it would make sense to include others in a "contract"-style agreement.

[DaveWadding]

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[Droford]

like how they're pretty much acknowledging that the dunk contest sucked

[HeartBreakMan2k]

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This is the guy who I was talking about, and Kenny mentioned as well. He did this dunk back in 2007.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

And yes, I know the reaction of the players is very annoying.

[DaveWadding]

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[HeartBreakMan2k]

I miss the dunk contest being good :(

[DaveWadding]

"STEVE NASH IS THE MVP! STEVE NASH FOR MVP! STEVE NASH FOR MVP!!!"

[DaveWadding]

Possibly the greatest dunk ever that's been forgotten.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Truth be told, Nash should have won that dunk contest without even having dunked.

[Emperor Smeat]

I like how the announcers are saying the "Dunk Contest is back" when a few years later they go back to saying it needs help and how before 2005 they said it was getting stale/boring.

[Juan]

Kind of disappointed with Shannon Brown's effort in the dunk contest.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Nate :love:

But yeah overall the dunks were pretty weak. Contest isn't going away though. Nate should be back again next year to try and make it 3 in a row and 4 overall...but besides him I think they should try and get more "sexy" names in there. I dunno, I don't follow NBA much so I had no idea about any of the other guys in there except Nate.</font>

[alvarado52]

Shannon could have done much more. Dude has ups and can palm the ball easily...i was looking for a 'rock the cradle' or something similar to show the control of the ball. I dunno what he was thinking. Weak contest.

[Juan]

The Mavericks have reached a tentative agreement to send Howard, Drew Gooden and two other players to Washington for swingman Caron Butler, center Brendan Haywood and guard DeShawn Stevenson, numerous NBA sources said Friday.

[Skippord]

the best part of the dunk contest was definitely the announcers mocking everyone's dunks

[Droford]

watching the celeb repeat on ESPN2 and Mark Cuban keeps on getting beat by some woman..Still dont know who it is

Nancy Lieberman

[Nervous Ferret]

The birthday cake is still the best dunk in like the last 10 years

[Nervous Ferret]

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[Loose Cannon]

Amare might be heading to the Cavs.

and dam wish Curry would of pulled it off last night. love him. should be a Knick :mad:

Nate's got incredible ups though.

[SammyG]

Shannon destroyed my hopes.

[Droford]

This is pretty ridiculous..

[Londoner]

Hate how goddamn long it takes for this all star game to actually start.

[Londoner]

Holy shiit they're gonna start? OH NO, MORE TALKING!

[Droford]

I shudder to think how insane Super Bowl XLV will be.

[Londoner]

I'm wondering whether the all star game actually exists?

[Droford]

Its not supposed to start to 8:35..Id say they're behind schedule but anyway..

[Londoner]

I'm in the UK so had no idea of the start time, first all star game i've been able to see, or i hope, anyway.

[Team Sheep]

Introductions and nigger music.

[Londoner]

Gotta have national anthems to! Man why do we never do that at football games? I can not think why!

[Team Sheep]

Why do players want to play in this in the middle of the season?

[Londoner]

Big game, but seems abit weird to me, playing with your rivals during the season.

[Juan]

GO WEST! FUCK THE EAST!

[Londoner]

Whose favourite?

[Droford]

Lots of people were saying the east with the west being without Kobe.

[Londoner]

Seems abit dull of an atmosphere to me, so quiet and slow despite high scoring. Like a friendly match in football.

[Juan]

It's basically an exhibition game.

[Droford]

put Deron williams in the Dunk contest next year!

[Londoner]

oohhh shakira!

[Londoner]

clearly isnt singing but fuck it.

[Londoner]

or maybe she is.:)

[Droford]

Old Spice Old Spice Old Spice..

[Londoner]

Anyone hate alicia keys like i do? Saw she was singing earlier in this, same old crap with her, over dramatic rubbish.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol this is just a glorified Globetrotters game</font>

[Droford]

lol this is just a glorified Globetrotters game
Without all the cool globetrotters sideshow antics.

[DaveWadding]

without the ladder.

[McLegend]

With 1:46 left in the 4th its a 2 point game East is up.

It feels like the East should be up like 15 though. Weird

[Emperor Smeat]

lol Dirk's face when Williams fouled Wade.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>EAST WINS HOME ADVANTAGE IN THE.....

Wait, wrong sport</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Surprised Dirk didn't take the last shot regardless if it went in or not.

[McLegend]

Did Kobe just win player of the decade award?

[Droford]

I thought that was a pretty decent game for once.

[OssMan]

Even though it's retarded to have any all star game decide home field/court advantage in the finals it should definitely be basketball instead of baseball, because the NBA allstar game is always such a fucking joke. Nobody plays defense, all they do is try to set up some ridiculous dunk or have Shaq shoot 3 pointer. It's not like there is much fooling around to do in baseball, they play it like a normal game.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't get why that makes it a joke. It's not serious competition but it's still entertaining to see what some of these guys can do when they are out in the open.

West did an awful job with 5 seconds left, let's just throw it to 'Melo and make him force up an ugly contested 3 point shot. I know it's the All Star game but why not actually draw up a play? The East did a couple times at the end coming off of time-outs.

[Brujesino]

Did Kobe just win player of the decade award?

yes he did and in a landslide while lebron was #2

fan voting is fucking retarded people who know nothing voting who they like best

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Kobe has been in his prime for the whole decade

[Brujesino]

Kobe has been in his prime for the whole decade

you really think kobe was the best player of the decade?:wtf:

[Team Sheep]

Wow 90,000 fans for an exhibition game.

[SammyG]

Uh. If it's not Kobe, who is it? Shaq?

[RP]

Did Kobe just win player of the decade award?


I woulda said Kobe, then Dale Davis

[McLegend]

Uh. If it's not Kobe, who is it? Shaq?

Tim Duncan. Hell even Shaq before Kobe.


C'mon, bro

[McLegend]

I woulda said Kobe, then Dale Davis
I can see that.

[OssMan]

Wow 90,000 fans for an exhibition game.
An exhibition game with all of the best players in the league

What do British people not understand about allstar games

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

you really think kobe was the best player of the decade?:wtf:It's pretty hard to say since a decade is a long ass time but I definitely don't think its a "WTF" pick. Who would you choose? Shaq? He's kinda fallen off towards the end.

Kobe played in 5 out of the 10 NBA Finals series during the decade and while Shaq dominated during the first 3 it's not Kobe was just out acting like a role player. I don't think Kobe is the hands down choice but I really can't think of a better one off the top of my head.

[Juan]

I agree with Stima

[Juan]

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[Juan]

Even George Karl's 5 year old daughter knows whats up

[ddpBANG]

Camby to the Blazers for Outlaw and Blake?

I love Camby and hate Blake. This makes me very happy!

[SammyG]

lol @ Camby being pissed for going to Portland. You idiot, you're going to a playoff-caliber team.

Also, Kobe out again tonight. This might be more serious than Laker trainers thought.

[SammyG]

Shannon lit it up tonight.

[Brujesino]

It's pretty hard to say since a decade is a long ass time but I definitely don't think its a "WTF" pick. Who would you choose? Shaq? He's kinda fallen off towards the end.

Kobe played in 5 out of the 10 NBA Finals series during the decade and while Shaq dominated during the first 3 it's not Kobe was just out acting like a role player. I don't think Kobe is the hands down choice but I really can't think of a better one off the top of my head.

shaq and duncan can be 1 and 2 kobe is 3

and lebron james was #2 behind kobe? retarded hes done nothing in this league

1.Shaq
2.Duncan
3.Kobe
4.Iverson
5.Garnett

thats the way it should have been although if people want to put duncan 1 and shaq 2 i have no problem with it

[SammyG]

No. Kobe is the best, fag.

This trade deadline shit is awesome, I can't wait to see what goes down. Please God, no Amare in Cleveland.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

No. Kobe is the best, fag.ROFLLL

I would definitely put Shaq as the player of the decade if he didn't drop off a bit towards the end. He was unreal in the early 2000's, on those Lakers teams he was the man no doubt about it, and Kobe was Pippen. Shaq also has the best line of the decade, "Kobe, tell me how my ass taste?"

I'm not a Kobe fan at all, I actually think he's a clown for all the bullshit PR stuff he does now (like using his daughters for props or showcasing his wife that he cheated on) to make up for the fact that he banged a snow bunny in Denver and she bugged out. He's been pretty unreal on the court though for the last decade.

Been hearing that Nate Robinson might be coming to the Celtics. Would hate to lose Eddie House but after watching him get abused by Darren Collison the game before the All-Star break I can see why this trade could happen. I'm assuming Robinson's D is much better? I haven't really seen him play very much to be honest.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Also, Kobe out again tonight. This might be more serious than Laker trainers thought.I really don't think it is. He will probably sit out Thursday too. Think about it, he's had a ton of time off to rest it with the All Star so now when he comes back it won't be a lingering issue. Why force it?

I bet if the Lakers were 0-6 in the games he was out he would be back, but they've been playing pretty well so there's no point to rush back.

[SammyG]

Really hope he plays against Boston. It's a race to get home court throughout the playoffs basically, dunno if the Lakers can beat Boston without Mamba.

[SammyG]

k. nvm, he said he's sitting out. fuck.

[Dragon]

ROFLLL

I would definitely put Shaq as the player of the decade if he didn't drop off a bit towards the end. He was unreal in the early 2000's, on those Lakers teams he was the man no doubt about it, and Kobe was Pippen. Shaq also has the best line of the decade, "Kobe, tell me how my ass taste?"

I'm not a Kobe fan at all, I actually think he's a clown for all the bullshit PR stuff he does now (like using his daughters for props or showcasing his wife that he cheated on) to make up for the fact that he banged a snow bunny in Denver and she bugged out. He's been pretty unreal on the court though for the last decade.

Been hearing that Nate Robinson might be coming to the Celtics. Would hate to lose Eddie House but after watching him get abused by Darren Collison the game before the All-Star break I can see why this trade could happen. I'm assuming Robinson's D is much better? I haven't really seen him play very much to be honest.

I don't know how House's defense is but Nate really doesn't play defense at all. He'll have a crazy block every once in a while (Yao Ming) but other than that he really doesn't do anything on the defensive side.

[Dragon]

Was reading that the Knicks might have gotten a first round pick with House if that deals go through.

Pretty good if they can do that for Nate, who they were gonna lose at the end of the year anyway. Especially with that McGrady trade being rumored and draft picks probably going to Houston if that deal happens.

[IC Champion]

I want for SammyG to die, that is all.

[DaveWadding]

3 team deal between Cavs, Wiz and a Western Conference team: Jamison, Ilgauskas, and Gooden all involved. No details yet.

[DaveWadding]

Cavs get:
Antawn Jamison
Bassy Telfair

Wizards get:
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Al Thornton
Brian Skinner
Cavs 1st rounder

Clips get:
Drew Gooden

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Good pick up for the Cavs. Being a Carolina boy I'm a huge Jamison fan.

[SammyG]

oo, Antawn Jamison? I'm sure the Lakers are terrified.

[McLegend]

Antawn Jamison is probably a better fit though.

I think Amare would have been the wrong move for basketball purposes.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Was reading that the Knicks might have gotten a first round pick with House if that deals go through.

Pretty good if they can do that for Nate, who they were gonna lose at the end of the year anyway. Especially with that McGrady trade being rumored and draft picks probably going to Houston if that deal happens.Pretty sure the only guy the Celtics have drafted since they "got good" who has stuck around is Glen Davis. He wasn't even drafted in the 1st round either, so I don't see losing the pick as that big of a deal.

That's interesting he doesn't play any D though, there's gotta be a reason why they are looking to get him. Maybe they think he will be better at running the point or something, seeing how Eddie House can do really well is catch & shoot.

I would rather have Jamison than Amare. I know Amare is an All-Star pretty much year in and year out but I just don't know how good he would be not playing in the Suns system. I think Jamison is a better fit for the Cavs.

[Dragon]

Apparently it might not be a pick and is House and Giddens instead. Not really sure what the point of the trade is for the Knicks if this is the case.

[IC Champion]

oo, Antawn Jamison? I'm sure the Lakers are terrified.

Man you smell like greek food.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

Yeah, Ant is pretty close to a 20 and 10 player on a team where for a really long time he was the ONLY offensive player. He'll fit well with that system.

[Buzzkill]

Hmmmmmm not sure how I feel about Jamison and LeBron together.

Doesn't seem like it's gonna fit that well. Better fit than Amare, but still seems like an odd choice for the team.

He's a damn good player though, don't get me wrong.

[Droford]

Blatche went for 33/13 tonight vs the Timberwolves..don't know why they'd want Big Z.

Im reading several things that say the Wiz will buy out Big Z and he'll end up back with Cleveland.

That makes ZERO sense.

[SammyG]

Hope the Cavs lose tomorrow.

[Skippord]

don't you hope the Cavs lose every game they play?

[RP]

Jim Obrien is the worst coach i've ever seen out of any sport ever. I'd rather have Magic Johnson coaching the Pacers.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Apparently it might not be a pick and is House and Giddens instead. Not really sure what the point of the trade is for the Knicks if this is the case.Giddens was a 1st round draft pick for the Celtics 2 years ago (think it was 2 years ago?). I know they've seen him down to the D-League a few times, not sure how good he would be getting minutes. Think it's tough for him to crack the rotation in Boston.

Maybe he has an expiring contract or something?

I thought it was suppose to be House, Giddens AND the pick for Robinson. I've at least heard that once. Getting sick of the speculation though, just make the trade already lol

[Dragon]

Yeah, I think both House and Giddens are expiring contracts, although I think I heard one has a team option or something. If there's no pick it just seems like swapping expiring contracts which doesn't make a ton of sense for the Knicks since Nate's gone anyway. Either way this deal isn't really anything for the Knicks. Nate was fun to watch at times but he obviously wasn't gonna be here long term.

I just want the Knicks to deal Jeffries so they have the cap space for 2 max contracts next year. Nate doesn't really affect that unless he brings back a draft pick/bargaining chip.

[Juan]

The Sacramento Kings have reached an agreement in principle with the Houston Rockets on a trade that will swap Kevin Martin for Tracy McGrady, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Along with Martin, the Kings will send Sergio Rodriguez, Hilton Armstrong and Kenny Thomas to the Rockets. Joey Dorsey and Carl Landry will go to the Kings.

[Emperor Smeat]

If I was Ainge, I'd be saving on the draft picks for bench building since last year's draft the Celtics only had 1 pick and ended up getting rid of the player a few months later and the other pick was given away from the 2007 KG deal.

The Cavs really benefited a lot from their trade since ESPN is saying they will get back Ilgauskas after 30-days since he was used more for making the salaries equal.

[Juan]

NBCsports:

Nate Robinson did not play Wednesday against the Bulls due to flu-like symptoms, and if the reported trade sending him to the Celtics happens as expected, he could be in uniform for Thursday's game against the Lakers.

He flew to L.A., and barring a huge surprise he'll be a Celtic come Thursday. Anything can happen between now and the trade deadline, but as the C's are constituted now, Nate-Rob projects to be a gunner off the bench -- and a poor man's Jamal Crawford sounds like a reasonable outlook.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Heard Nate Robinson gets a 1million dollar bonus for being on a playoff team. No wonder why he waived his no-trade clause to go to the C's (and not try to force a trade to a team where he could get more PT)

[SammyG]

Is the Nate trade official or what? Deadline is in an hour...

Also omg @ the possibility of T-mac and Lebron being on the same team next year...

[IC Champion]

T-Mac and LeBron wont be on the same team next year, that would be a waste of a starting spot on the roster, besides New York wont keep him, they want his expiring contract. And Lebron is staying in Cleveland.

[SammyG]

I think Bron is gone.

[IC Champion]

Why? He has a team thats ready to win now built around him, where is he going to go that can afford him and then win? New York? I don't see New York even with LeBron contending anytime soon.

I think Wade, Bosh and James all stay. Wade is the most likely to leave.

[IC Champion]

Besides, you stand to make more by resigning with a team, then going into free agency.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah if LeBron comes to NY it'll show he really doesn't care about winning...he'd be coming because he'd instantly be THE guy in NY, probably rivaled only by Jeter.</font>

[SammyG]

AAAAnd it's official. Nate to Boston. Brewer to the Griz.

[thecc]

So glad I get to watch Robinson play now.

[Dragon]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah if LeBron comes to NY it'll show he really doesn't care about winning...he'd be coming because he'd instantly be THE guy in NY, probably rivaled only by Jeter.</font>

I dunno, the whole point of this trade today to get rid of Jeffries was to ensure they can issue two max contracts to free agents this summer. They can be a good team with LeBron, another max free agent (Bosh), Chandler, Gallinari, etc...

The Knicks basically gave up last years 1st round pick, 2012 first round pick and the swapping of 2011 picks to get rid of Jeffries and have the cap space.

Donnie Walsh's main goal was to go big in this free agent class and he's set the team up to do that. These are the Knicks though so chances are they fail miserably.

I do think LeBron will stay with Cleveland though.

[Juan]

Can't believe I'm rooting for the Nuggets right now

[alvarado52]

Im bummed we didnt land Captain Kirk :(

[Juan]

Come on Denver, you motherfuckers!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ray Allen just fucking jammed on Shannon Brown. SIGN THE POSTER BITCH

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Damn Odom just returned the favor to Perk

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think he just crammed on Allen too. Missed it though, was taking a piss :y:

[alvarado52]

Yeah, today is National Posterize A Celtic day.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I didn't know Shannon Brown played on the Celtics

[McLegend]

KG is a mummy.

[alvarado52]

on a side note, i think Bynum would benefit big time if he added a jump-stop to his usual tricks. Now that i think about it, i dont see anyone use it anymore...not since Shaq during the three-peat anyway.

[alvarado52]

I didn't know Shannon Brown played on the Celtics

i dont really qualify a posterize as someone dunking with the guy BEHIND him trying to contest the shot. On the other hand, what Odom did to Ray Ray, thats a poster.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I didn't realize there was a clear set of rules. Shannon Brown tried to block the shot and ended up fouling him. He got jammed on

Also Lamar Odom is like 7 feet tall, I hope he could dunk on Ray Allen.

Dunking on Perk was much more impressive

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Ray Allen burying jumpers right now. Hopefully the whole trade talk thing blowing over is gonna get him outta the funk he's been in.

[McLegend]

If I was a Celtic fan I would hate Rasheed.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

If you were a Laker fan would you hate Pau Gasol? I can't stand that guy

To be honest I'm not really on the Rasheed Wallace bandwagon, hasn't done much since he's come to Boston. Maybe if he picks it up to finish out this year I'll change my tune, but right now I'm not really feeling him on the C's.

[McLegend]

I would love Pau Gasol if he were on the Sixers.

Rasheed looks to be washed up.

[Juan]

Someone on the Lakers needs to step up in the 4th, otherwise I don't foresee them picking up the W.

[Juan]

LAMARRRRRRRRRRR

[alvarado52]

I didn't realize there was a clear set of rules. Shannon Brown tried to block the shot and ended up fouling him. He got jammed on

Also Lamar Odom is like 7 feet tall, I hope he could dunk on Ray Allen.

Dunking on Perk was much more impressive

What do you mean? Being dunked ON means a guy is in front of you, thus, you dunk ON him. Get it? If he's behind you, youre not dunking ON the guy, youre just dunking. Allen dunked and got fouled, but by no means was that him dunking on Brown.

[alvarado52]

lol@ Daniels...i remember some Celt fan saying 'we're missing Daniels, when we get him back, we'll be strong'. That would be like the Lakers 'missing' Sasha V.

[alvarado52]

i love when KG throws his bitch fits.

[Juan]

god dammit. i love close games but I don't like the Lakers chances without Kobe to close out the game.

[IC Champion]

Who calls Time out?

[alvarado52]

lol....yknow, im not gonna be mad...Lakers put up a good fight without KB...but seriously, a time out? Who's fucking call was that? Phils?

[IC Champion]

Gasol called timeout on the court.

[Juan]

Yeah it was phill's call. I mean, it would have been fine if the time out was given rigth when Gasol asked for it. Lakers could have had a good 5 seconds on the clock.

I'm pretty mad at Fisher. Instead of going for the game winner he tried to draw a foul with 2 seconds left. WTF FISHER?????????????

[Juan]

Gasol called timeout on the court.

Gasol took the timeout because Phil was calling for a timeout

[IC Champion]

Bigger question should be, why did Fisher have the ball? Gasol, Odom, Artest, Bynum would all be better options.

[IC Champion]

Gasol took the timeout because Phil was calling for a timeout

Thats why i said on the court, I didnt know if it came from the sidline or not, i just saw Gasol calling time.

[Juan]

Bigger question should be, why did Fisher have the ball? Gasol, Odom, Artest, Bynum would all be better options.

Not only that, but to try and draw a foul with 2 seconds left instead of going for the win is ridiculous.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What do you mean? Being dunked ON means a guy is in front of you, thus, you dunk ON him. Get it? If he's behind you, youre not dunking ON the guy, youre just dunking. Allen dunked and got fouled, but by no means was that him dunking on Brown.So since he was jumping at him from behind it makes a difference? His hand was on the backboard and Ray went through his arm and dunked it. They could make a poster out of that, pretty sure that's what makes something qualified as posterized or not.

I don't even know why I am continually posting about this, doesn't even matter.

Celtics squeak out with the win. Outside of Ray their shooting was pretty awful, especially Rondo - I'll take it. Hopefully they can get Nate in for the next game, would have liked to see if he could have sparked some offense during that big run by the Lakers in the 4th. Celtics only scored 11 points in the 4th...ridiculous

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah not liking how last few weeks Celtics have a really bad 3rd or 4th quarter but today they actually played tough defense in the 4th since Lakers only scored 17 points vs C's 11 points.

ESPN or TNT had the stat of after the Lakers mini-run in early 4th quarter, they didn't make another FG for last 6-7 minutes of the game.

[alvarado52]

Is it me, or has Fisher basically become worthless. I mean, dude doesnt even TRY to defend anymore, he tries to draw fouls. There was a play early on where Ray Allen took a shot, and Fish literally just tucked his arms in...didnt even have a hand up.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Hopefully nasty Nate can cure some of their offensive foes. Marquis Daniels wasn't even a threat at all off the pine, dude didn't even attempt a shot - nevermind make one.

Lakers are going to be nearly impossible to beat if all the bigs play well. Their size up front with Odom, Bynum and Gasol is ridiculous.

[DaveWadding]

Knicks are getting Amar'e and somebody else. They better hope it's Wade. Might end up like Joe Johnson though.

[DaveWadding]

I mean, I love JJ, but Wade is a beast.

[SammyG]

FUCK DEREK FISHER.

[Juan]

The only thing that makes me mad about this loss is that last possession by Fish. It was clear as day that he was going for contact instead of the win. Terrible.

[SammyG]

That's the only thing? His defense on Ray the whole game wasn't pathetic? His 1-9 shooting wasn't pathetic? Phil needs to get over his fucking mancrush for the dude, and hand over the reins to Shannon Brown, or even Jordan Farmar. Seriously now, this was embarassing to watch tonight. Fuck Derek Fisher. Thanks for the memories and what not, but dude's gotta go.

[Juan]

I would have been less upset about this loss had it been a clean look at the basket but a miss.

[SammyG]

You gotta throw that ball into the post anyway. Give it to Lamar, or Pau. Also, Phil and Pau were calling timeout right away, ref gave it to us with like 2.2 seconds left. Retarded. Shoulda had more time at the end. But it doesn't matter, Fisher woulda fucked it up anyways. His defense cost us the game.

[Juan]

I think the fact that the Lakers only scored like 2 points in the last 5/6 mins or so is what really cost them this game.

[Juan]

With 5 minutes to play lakers were up by 3.

They came up empty on the next 5 offensive possessions. That's just not going to cut it.

[SammyG]

If Fisher didn't let Ray score at will, we would have had the game in hand. Fuck you derek fisher.

[SammyG]

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