NFL 2010 Off Season Thread

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Can't believe the first round of the draft is gonna be on a Thursday. Will feel so weird.</font>

[Crimson]

That and I think it's 10 minutes instead of the usual 15 inbetween picks. Or was it like that last year too? I'm not sure. I like watching the draft though and running mocks in my head sometimes.

[Gonzo]

That and I think it's 10 minutes instead of the usual 15 inbetween picks. Or was it like that last year too? I'm not sure. I like watching the draft though and running mocks in my head sometimes.

Last year was 10 minutes in the first round, second maybe even too.

Hopefully Fewell isn't a rush 4 drop 7 type of guy. Maybe he just did that because of personnel? I hate that type of defense.

[Heros Welcome]

Aaron Kampman signed by the Jags.

[Hanso Amore]

Last year was 10 minutes in the first round, second maybe even too.

Hopefully Fewell isn't a rush 4 drop 7 type of guy. Maybe he just did that because of personnel? I hate that type of defense.

He is a cover 2 "apprentice"

[OssMan]

Giants should trade up and get Suh

[Gonzo]

He is a cover 2 "apprentice"

If the front 4 play a la 2007, won't be a problem. Last year the DL was injured/under-performed so we'll see. Can't get much worse than last year.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Cheap ass Patriots make Vince Wilfork the highest paid NT ever

[Big Fat Mike]

lol Pats

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Jim Sorgi might go from backing up Peyton to backing up Eli. David Carr signed with th Niners so the Giants now need a backup QB.

They are also taking a look at Rhys Lloyd, a guy who was on the Panthers solely to do kickoffs. He's got a big leg, and I'd welcome him. Fuckin Tynes would always let the opposition start at the 35.</font>

[Heros Welcome]

Thomas Dimitroff is a GOD! Everything he touches has turned to gold. He really knows how to wheel and deal, and of course he is an absolute ACE when it comes to the draft.

He was able to deal Chris Houston to Detroit in exchange for a 6th round pick and also swapping picks with them in the 5th. Also a great job locking up Dunta Robinson and making the Falcons that much closer to becoming Super Bowl Contenders!

All Hail Thomas Dimitroff!

Splaya I know your a Lion fan, and all I have to say is good luck and get the Tylenol ready because Chris Houston has all the talent in the world but he just doesn't know how to put it all together on the field. If he would only learn to turn his head he could be a #1, but he refuses to do it. I'm glad the headache is off my team, but I wish him the best in Detroit.

[CSL]

lol Pats

New meme?

[Gonzo]

lol Jim Sorgi might go from backing up Peyton to backing up Eli. David Carr signed with th Niners so the Giants now need a backup QB.

They are also taking a look at Rhys Lloyd, a guy who was on the Panthers solely to do kickoffs. He's got a big leg, and I'd welcome him. Fuckin Tynes would always let the opposition start at the 35.

I wouldn't be shocked if Carr started in San Fran. I really think that guy could still lead a team to the playoffs if he got in a good system.

[Heros Welcome]

I wouldn't be shocked if Carr started in San Fran. I really think that guy could still lead a team to the playoffs if he got in a good system.

Also if he has a line to protect him. Still feel bad for the guy for getting killed every time he snapped the ball in Houston.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't get why the Cardinals losing guys on defense is a big deal, it's not like they are a team built on sick defense like the Ravens or Jets. They gave up like 100 points in 2 playoff games, it's not like it can get much worse.

Losing Warner is gonna hurt them the most, dunno if Matt Leinart can step up.

[OssMan]

Matt Lindsay Lohan. I miss him

[Emperor Smeat]

I don't get why the Cardinals losing guys on defense is a big deal, it's not like they are a team built on sick defense like the Ravens or Jets. They gave up like 100 points in 2 playoff games, it's not like it can get much worse.

Losing Warner is gonna hurt them the most, dunno if Matt Leinart can step up.

Its more of a combination of things than just loosing players on defense. No Warner or Boldin means Cardinals just lost 2 of their best offense players and they never relied on their defense to pick up the slack so by loosing more defensive players, the game scores might worsen.

The Bears and Ravens are the opposite where the offense is average but their defense keeps the scores close enough to make up for the lack of quality in scoring.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I get what you are saying but what are these new guys gonna give up 115 points in 2 games now? I don't really think losses on D is that big of a deal, the production can be replaced. Kerry Rhodes already signed to help out in the defensive backfield and it's still pretty early in the off-season.

Losing Warner and Boldin is really going to hurt. AFC West is garbage though so who knows whats going to happen.

[FearedSanctity]

Whoa whoa whoa, now I know the AFCW ain't the best, but it's not THAT bad that the Cardinals could win it from the other conference

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

:lol: :lol:

[Big Fat Mike]

Thought Carr was going to sign with Arizona.

[SammyG]

The Rams are going to win the NFC West

[Reavant]

u think that....

[FearedSanctity]

Broncos sign DE Jarvis Green and NT Jamal Williams

[ClockShot]

I approve these signings.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Williams is a big pick up for them, Jarvis Green is pretty solid too.

[Skippord]

maybe Jamal Charles won't run for 11 thousand yards against them now

[Big Fat Mike]

I approve of the Broncos spending money.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

TO's in Cincy right now dining with the coaching staff. Chad wants him, Carson wants him, even the local media wants him. I DUNNO GUYS, looks like it's happening.

[Heros Welcome]

More weapons for Carson the better. I wanna see him get back into the conversation as one of the leagues absolute best.

[Crimson]

Brandon Marshall > Cincy's 1st rounder and TO for 1 or 2 years

[Heros Welcome]

I'm liking these tweets that Chad is giving to T.O.


@terrellowens man it dont take that damn long to sign on the dotted line, lets go damit!!! You can be Batman i will be Robin, lets go!!

@terrellowens Oh and Carson is gonna be ALFRED

@terrellowens Cedric Benson is the riddler and bobbie williams is the penguin and tank johnson is mr. freeze

@terrellowens we cant forget coach Lewis he is gonna be detective BULLOCK

@terrellowens holy batman where are you, Pow, Crunch, Boom!

[Emperor Smeat]

I'm liking these tweets that Chad is giving to T.O.


@terrellowens man it dont take that damn long to sign on the dotted line, lets go damit!!! You can be Batman i will be Robin, lets go!!

@terrellowens Oh and Carson is gonna be ALFRED

@terrellowens Cedric Benson is the riddler and bobbie williams is the penguin and tank johnson is mr. freeze

@terrellowens we cant forget coach Lewis he is gonna be detective BULLOCK

@terrellowens holy batman where are you, Pow, Crunch, Boom!

:rofl:

[Supreme Olajuwon]

jesus does TO reply to every fan who sends him a message?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

@OGOchoCinco (http://twitter.com/OGOchoCinco) why Dilfer and Hasslebeck hatin on you and @terrellowens (http://twitter.com/terrellowens) again?

@iChicagoSports (http://twitter.com/iChicagoSports) because their careers sucked


lolllllllll

[CSL]

lol golden

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Have you ever heard Tim Hasslebeck's football reports? He is a serious cocksucker.

[Heros Welcome]

Marlin Jackson signs 2 year deal with the Eagles to play FS.

[Heros Welcome]

Well so much for the Batman and Robin tandem in Cincy.

Antonio Bryant agrees to a 4 year deal with the Bengals.

[RoXer]

Following OchoCinco on Twitter seems like a lot of fun. Wish all celebs would be like that.

[RoXer]

Losing Rolle is a blessing. For the past 2 years I've too many blown coverages. It looks like the Giants fans on here will know what I'm talking about. Losind Dansby is a bummer. It will be difficult to replace that kind of talent. But I feel the key players are DRC and Adrian Wilson. Losing one of them would definitly hurt. Like someone said though, nowhere to go but up.

I feel like I'm giving the keys to my car to my teenage son for the first time with this Leinart situation. Yeah, he's passed classes, got his license etc etc. But I'm still scared shitless.

And imcurious how Breaston will fare. And who they draft.

I dunno

[Gonzo]

Like I said before, I watched C.C. Brown and Aaron Rouse blow coverages all year, worst case, Rolle can do it while being paid more.

If the Giants can return to form on the defensive line, the defensive backs won't have to worry about looking like Pro-Bowlers.

[Droford]

Saw this on Deadspin:

Tony Washington, an o-line prospect from Division II Abilene Christian, impressed at the NFL Combine (http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/tony-washington?id=497069#tabs:tab-analysis). However, like many prospects before him, a crime committed in his teen years might derail him, only this one involves having sex with his sister. SportsFanLive's Jenna Laine has the exclusive (http://www.sportsfanlive.com/sflreports/). It seems that Washington, now 24, is a registered sex offender in Texas, and according to Laine's sources, it's because he was convicted in May 2003 of having consensual sex with his 15-year-old sister. It's a sad story. A former coach says Washington comes from a "dysfunctional" home and that he "skipped a phase, so to speak, in his emotional development." Scouts seem to have some doubts about Washington. And I'll admit, this part does give me pause:
The sister does not wish to speak publicly on the case, according to Washington's agent, who added that the siblings are now on good terms.
Wasn't that the problem in the first place? Boom. Roasted.


I bet he gets drafted.

[Innovator]

Like I said before, I watched C.C. Brown and Aaron Rouse blow coverages all year, worst case, Rolle can do it while being paid more.

If the Giants can return to form on the defensive line, the defensive backs won't have to worry about looking like Pro-Bowlers.
ANYTHING is better than last year

[Gonzo]

C.C. AKA CAN'T COVER BROWN

[ClockShot]

Holmgren cleaning house in Cleveland. Dumped Derek Anderson and might be shopping Brady Quinn around.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Just remembered Jeff Feagles won't be back next year. Weird, got so used to him being there. Wonder who they'll get to punt. Wouldn't be terribly shocked if they took the first punter of the draft (if there are any particularly good ones, dunno)</font>

[Crimson]

I dunno. I think Brady Quinn could still devolop into a decent starter. He needs time in a system and the right team i suppose.

[Innovator]

Just remembered Jeff Feagles won't be back next year. Weird, got so used to him being there. Wonder who they'll get to punt. Wouldn't be terribly shocked if they took the first punter of the draft (if there are any particularly good ones, dunno)
....what

[Evil Vito]

....what

<font color=goldenrod>He wasn't re-signed and I highly doubt he'll be back. He's like 44 years old and his punting took a huge step back. Wouldn't surprise me if he retired or something.</font>

[Droford]

Mason stays with the Ravens for 2 More years.

Boldin/Mason/Stallworth

Should be decent

[Gonzo]

He wasn't re-signed and I highly doubt he'll be back. He's like 44 years old and his punting took a huge step back. Wouldn't surprise me if he retired or something.

I love Feagles but fuck, he can't punt more than 30-35 yards anymore. Time to go with a young leg. I wouldn't mind a change at the K position either.

[Big Fat Mike]

Re-sign Jay Feely. He can kick AND punt

[Innovator]

I'm ok with Jay Feely, Tynes was one miss away from being cut last year anyways

[FearedSanctity]

Willie Clark convicted of murdering Darrent Williams 3 years ago, as well as attempted murder of Javon Walker and everyone else in the limo at the time. Ironically, he's already in jail awaiting trial on a separate murder case

[Droford]

I wonder if the Browns are interested in Troy Smith now?

[Team Sheep]

So LT could be a Jet. :-\ Mixed thoughts.

[CSL]

I'd feel quite positive. Low money, low risk.

[Gonzo]

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[ClockShot]

Larry Johnson the the Redskins.

[Team Sheep]

I guess. Just feels like a bit of a step backwards. I thought Greene and Washington had us set for the future. But yeah if it's a good deal, it can't hurt. With Washington coming back from injury it would be good to break him back in easier with the three of them sharing the load.

[Heros Welcome]

Brady Quinn welcome to the Broncos.

Adam_Schefter

Broncos traded FB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 6th-round draft selection and a late-round 2012 pick to Cleveland for quarterback Brady Quinn.

[Heros Welcome]

LT on his way to the J!E!T!S! JETS JETS JETS

Adam_Schefter

Filed to ESPN: it's official. LaDainian Tomlinson is a Jet. He reached agreement on a two-year contract. Done.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Wow Browns could have gotten Jay Cutler for Quinn last year. This year; 2 sixth round picks and Peyton Hillis.

Don't think LT to the Jets is an upgrade. Would have rather kept Thomas Jones if I was them. LT is soft by NFL standards.

[FearedSanctity]

TOM Brandstater
BRADY Quinn

SUPER BOWL

[DaveBrawl]

I miss Peyton Hillis already. Guess I need to change my sig now.

[ClockShot]

:nono:

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[FearedSanctity]

Yeah, pretty sure I'd rather have a potential starting QB rather than a RB we never use. LOVE Hillis, but McDaniels clearly just has no use for him.

[Crimson]

And Cleveland has also traded Kamerion Wimbley to the Raiders for a 3rd rounder this year. WTF are they doing..now they have no pass rush, no defensive line and no secondary.

[Loose Cannon]

fk'n LT. wow.

[DaveBrawl]

Yeah, pretty sure I'd rather have a potential starting QB rather than a RB we never use. LOVE Hillis, but McDaniels clearly just has no use for him.

Yeah I know, but still...:'(

McDaniels will likely leave Quinn in Hillis' spot on the bench anyway.:lol:

[Innovator]

OK Jets fans

His name is Ladanian

LdT, BabyLT

He's not LT

[FearedSanctity]

It's not like he's some no name LBer using LT as a nickname, LT are his actual initials. He's just as entitled to the name as Lawrence Tynes is. I don't exactly care for the guy, but it's pretty ridiculous that people make a big deal about him using his own initials as a nickname just because someone else shares them and used them first.

[Innovator]

bLT sits on the sidelines when his feelings are hurt

LT would go get 4 sacks after being dragged into the locker room unconcious after snorting an 8 ball off girls' asses.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I don't even know how it's possible but LT's book is one of the most hilarious/sad things I've ever read, all at the same time.

[Gonzo]

I think I remember a story about LT about how opposing players would send girls to his room the night before a game to "tire him out." Or maybe it was the other way around. Either way, rofl.

[Emperor Smeat]

If he fell for that trick then he's pretty dumb since that is one of the oldest NFL tricks. I think the 49ers managed to beat the Bengals in one of their 2 Superbowl meetings that way.

[Innovator]

He used to send them to the other players rooms

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol the Giants and Jets are arguing over who gets to play the first meaningful game in the new stadium.

Giants are claiming the NFL promised them the first game when the Jets got to close Giants Stadium...Jets say it will be determined via coin toss.</font>

[Big Fat Mike]

The new GIANTS stadium. What's the problem ffs.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>WOOOOOOO Giants win the coin toss</font>

[Loose Cannon]

The new GIANTS stadium. What's the problem ffs.

yea, that would be a great answer if it was actually called Giants stadium

[Hanso Amore]

I think I remember a story about LT about how opposing players would send girls to his room the night before a game to "tire him out." Or maybe it was the other way around. Either way, rofl.

LT did this to Bruce Smit hand Thurman Thomas

[Gonzo]

yea, that would be a great answer if it was actually called Giants stadium

I'll probably just say Meadowlands personally, from now on.

I thought it was kind of ironic the Jets played the last home game in Giants Stadium, but whatever.

[OssMan]

The Meadowlands Complex at Xanadu

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Let's go New Jersey Jets/Giants

[Reavant]

so they built another stadium and both teams still share it? does anyone else think thats retarded?

[Hanso Amore]

Fuck the F-A-G-S anywhoe. eli earned this shit. Sanchez can suck more dicks

[Hanso Amore]

Fuck the F-A-G-S anywhoe. eli earned this shit. Sanchez can suck more dicks

I have no recollection of posting this

[Gonzo]

so they built another stadium and both teams still share it? does anyone else think thats retarded?

No, because I don't think the New Jersey state government was willing to put in much money towards the project. They split the cost of a state of the art facility.

[RoXer]

I could have sworn the Jets were building their own stadium. Where did I get that from?

[Team Sheep]

There were original plans for the Jets to build a stadium on the West side of Manhattan. Looked amazing.

[Team Sheep]

http://www.thermomax.com/images/Jet_Stadium_2.jpg

http://voot.pair.com/hoofaway/stadium1603.jpg

[Reavant]

wow that would have been awesome... then they could have actually been a new york team

[Gonzo]

You know, I've never heard anyone from a good team make any remark about the Giants or Jets playing in Jersey, mostly just resentful Buffalo fans because their team perpetually sucks ass.

[Reavant]

cuz the jets have been such a bright spot in the nfl since like superbowl 3 shut the fuck up

[Gonzo]

What are you going to say about the Giants, douche?

Anyways, I was just stating my experience. Pretty much only shithead Buffalo fans remark about the Giants and Jets in Jersey.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Well I make remarks about it too, but I live in Ohio so you probably didn't hear me.

[Reavant]

im not going to say anything about the giants because they have actually been a good team in the past and actually had their own stadium

[James Steele]

Yeah, those 4 consecutive SuperBowl appearances and AFC Championships are meaningless. :roll:

[James Steele]

I am biased though since I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, and Cowboys fans love the Buffalo Bills.

[McLegend]

I don't really care if the Giants or the Jets play in NJ. Totally irrelevant for my hate for the Giants.

Also think having 2 NFL Stadiums in the same city is a waste of money and space.

[Gonzo]

Nah but on a serious note, I would love it if the Giants played in New York state. I just don't think there has ever been a feasible situation come up after they moved to New Jersey.

[Gonzo]

Besides, the stadium is about as close to New York without being in New York as it possibly could be. You can see the city from the Meadowlands.

[Reavant]

I don't really care if the Giants or the Jets play in NJ. Totally irrelevant for my hate for the Giants.

Also think having 2 NFL Stadiums in the same city is a waste of money and space.

what about all the cities with two baseball stadiums or basketball arenas

[Reavant]

Besides, the stadium is about as close to New York without being in New York as it possibly could be. You can see the city from the Meadowlands.

yea but its still ridiculous that a team that says its from new york cant depend on that city/state to give them money to built a stadium

[Gonzo]

yea but its still ridiculous that a team that says its from new york cant depend on that city/state to give them money to built a stadium

Of course it is. I think it is more indicative of the area though than the team. I can't blame either team for going to Jersey, they made a bid over New York in the '70s.

I'd be interested to know the background of the Bills stadium. They seem like a fan base that would be willing to assume the costs of a stadium. I don't really think city area residents would be willing to do that with the Giants or Jets, unfortunately. The god damn PSLs they're putting on the seats at this new complex at the Meadowlands is going to price out the average fan, but that's the way that these things get built now a days.

[McLegend]

what about all the cities with two baseball stadiums or basketball arenas

You play 81 baseball games at home. You play at most 12 home games inculding preseason. Huge difference there.

Also the Yankees and the Mets one year in the 70's shared Shea stadium... Can't do that today, because of expansion since then.

Also as of right now there isn't a City that holds two NBA teams besides LA and they share a building.

[Gonzo]

I guess Woody Johnson, the owner of the Jets, was pissed the Giants are getting the first game in the new joint. Goodell said something about having the Jets play at home that weekend too and play on Monday night instead. I gotta say, I don't understand his anger, because as a fan I don't think I would mind either Sunday or Monday. On one hand, you get the first overall game, on the other, you have the first Monday night prime time game.

[Emperor Smeat]

Forgot who it was on Around The Horn yesterday that gave the best solution to the Jets-Giants problem. He suggested the 1st game in the new stadium should have been Jets vs Giants since it would solve the problem of who gets to play there 1st since they would both be playing at the same time.

Only reason the old stadium never had this issue was because the Giants are older than the Jets by a good 40+ years in the NFL which explains why the stadium was named Giants stadium. Only fair to have Jets close the stadium since Giants opened the old stadium (even though no such thing as 2 NY/NJ teams in the 1920s).

[Gonzo]

Yeah, I kind of figured that they would make a scheduling exemption and put the Jets versus the Giants for the opening of the new stadium. Kind of defies common sense.

[Team Sheep]

Meh, I don't see why you should make a scheduling exemption just because of a new stadium. It's going the most sensible route, a flip of a coin. Can't get much fairer than that.

[Hanso Amore]

You know, I've never heard anyone from a good team make any remark about the Giants or Jets playing in Jersey, mostly just resentful Buffalo fans because their team perpetually sucks ass.

Its not a matter of good or bad, its that we are the only NY team and the state doesn't give us any fucking money like downstate

[Hanso Amore]

Meh, I don't see why you should make a scheduling exemption just because of a new stadium. It's going the most sensible route, a flip of a coin. Can't get much fairer than that.

Exactly.

It will fuck up the two East Divisions schedules or else they lose the "division plays the same people" aspect

[Gonzo]

Its not a matter of good or bad, its that we are the only NY team and the state doesn't give us any fucking money like downstate

I don't think New York's state government contributes anything to the teams. I may be wrong. I think most of the state's budget is allocated near the city, second Albany, and then everywhere else. The fucking state is in such a hole because of shitty state government in the first place.

Exactly.

It will fuck up the two East Divisions schedules or else they lose the "division plays the same people" aspect

I'm pretty sure two of the games each year are based on records or something like that. I don't think it would have been too hard to schedule. Either way I don't really care. In 20 years, is anyone going to care who had the first game in the new stadium? They shouldn't. Should Goodell have had both parties meet to discuss the plans? Maybe. Ultimately I don't think it is a big deal.

[Innovator]

Coughlin at Tebow's pro day? really?

[Team Sheep]

Well the Giants will open the stadium on a Sunday afternoon and then the Jets will play MNF the next night there. I'd rather the Monday night game tbh.

[Gonzo]

Coughlin at Tebow's pro day? really?

Why not? Guy can play football.

[James Steele]

Why not? Guy can play college football.

FIXED

[Gonzo]

FIXED

No, the guy can play football. You're assuming I meant solely at the quarterback position. A guy with his talent, with the proper coaching, can contribute to an NFL team in other areas.

[Reavant]

what about his play says that he would have talent at any other position in the nfl? I dont get it when people say that. I mean I personally think he could be a good qb given the time to develop, but to say he would be a great part at any offense at a spot other than qb is stupid. What spot? Reciever? Running back? No hes too slow. Wing back? common.

And whoever says hed be a great linebacker is stupid to me because why would anyone think that when hes never played a down at defense.

[CSL]

Tight End or Safety

[Reavant]

again what tells anyone that hed be able to contribute there and safety would be a defensive position of which hes never played a down on that side of the ball aaaaand he is no where near fast enough to be playing safety

[Gonzo]

I think he could contribute as an H-Back.

[Reavant]

running back?

[OssMan]

Giants will draft Tim Zeeboe

[Hanso Amore]

I am with you Reav. Tebow is Just another great college system player made better by playing on the most talented team in the country.

I also hate people who "think his intangibles are worth it"

The guy is a Bible Beater who takes accountability.

[Gonzo]

You know, I'm not one for the hole Bible thumping aspect of Tebow, but it is refreshing to see someone like him over your stereotypical athlete making the news for doing something stupid and foolish.

[Reavant]

yea totally but that doesnt change the fact that what hes shown thus far isnt as promising as the normal sociopathic amazing athlete. However he does work extremely hard so im sure he can turn into a decent qb, but i just cant see him playing any other position with success.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Plenty of players have had great careers and have been winners in college, doesn't always translate to success in the NFL. There's no denying he's done things the right way but having the "it" factor isn't just limited to Tim Tebow.

I do think he could be a decent short yardage back if he isn't playing QB. But a decent short yardage back is a late round draft pick at best, not a 2nd rounder. Michael Robinson from Penn State who was a similar QB in college has made that move recently. I don't think he is gonna go that route though, he is gonna be drafted as a QB.

[Hanso Amore]

The scary thing is the Bills are fucking ALLL OVER Tebws cock.

They want him bad.

Sucks.

Earlier commentsasise (they were a little harsh) The guy is an all time gamer, and has gotten by in COLLEGE as a HIGH MOTOR type. he really isnt that gifted as a player physically or mentally (comparative) but gets by on guts and hard work

That wont float in the NFL.

he has played QB all his life. He would be Matt Jons as a different position.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Well Matt Jones played some WR in college and was a completely different athlete. Matt Jones probably could have been a decent receiver if he didn't love the nose candy.

I mean I don't think Jason White ever even broke camp with a NFL team and he had quite the college career at Oklahoma. It's gonna be tough for Tebow.

[Big Fat Mike]

In other news, Chris Johnson has the ugliest car ever.

[Heros Welcome]

The scary thing is the Bills are fucking ALLL OVER Tebws cock.

They want him bad.

Sucks.

Earlier commentsasise (they were a little harsh) The guy is an all time gamer, and has gotten by in COLLEGE as a HIGH MOTOR type. he really isnt that gifted as a player physically or mentally (comparative) but gets by on guts and hard work

That wont float in the NFL.

he has played QB all his life. He would be Matt Jons as a different position.


I think Bills fans might be able to sleep easy and not worry about Tebow running the show. With Seattle landing Whitehurst in that deal you would think there going to shift the focus to either O line or possibly Spiller at there pick. So the only thing possible standing in front of Claussen being the new Buffalo savior are the Browns, and I question if they would take another ND QB.

[ClockShot]

Josh McDevil says "Kyle Orton is our starting quarterback"

Remember when he said "Jay Cutler is our starting quarterback"?

[FearedSanctity]

And how Jay continued to cry until he got traded?

[Gonzo]

NFL Playoff OT rules change in a 28-4 vote:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5022064

If a team kicks a field goal in overtime the other team will get a chance on offense. If a team scores a touchdown in overtime, the game is over. I interpret it to work that if the second team ties with a field goal, the first overtime quarter continues until someone scores a touchdown. If after the first overtime the teams are still tied, they go to a second overtime quarter which is played under the old sudden death rules.

Seems rather silly. The story cites the increased accuracy of field goal kickers, and the change from the kickoff position being the 30 yard line, as opposed to the 35 yard line pre-1994, giving teams better field position in overtime.

I don't really know what I think about it yet. I suppose if it's applied and comes off being retarded they will just revert back to the original overtime format. They plan on discussing implementing this policy for the regular season during the owner's meetings in May.

[Big Fat Mike]

Looks like the Giants are actually going to have to put the ball in the Endzone in OT.

[Gonzo]

We're fucked.

[James Steele]

Well Matt Jones played some WR in college and was a completely different athlete. Matt Jones probably could have been a decent receiver if he didn't love the nose candy.

I mean I don't think Jason White ever even broke camp with a NFL team and he had quite the college career at Oklahoma. It's gonna be tough for Tebow.

Jason White also didn't have any knees coming out of college. He was in his mid-20s when he finally used all of his eligibility. I agree with you that Tebow will not be anything special in the NFL.


NFL Playoff OT rules change in a 28-4 vote:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5022064

If a team kicks a field goal in overtime the other team will get a chance on offense. If a team scores a touchdown in overtime, the game is over. I interpret it to work that if the second team ties with a field goal, the first overtime quarter continues until someone scores a touchdown. If after the first overtime the teams are still tied, they go to a second overtime quarter which is played under the old sudden death rules.

Seems rather silly. The story cites the increased accuracy of field goal kickers, and the change from the kickoff position being the 30 yard line, as opposed to the 35 yard line pre-1994, giving teams better field position in overtime.

I don't really know what I think about it yet. I suppose if it's applied and comes off being retarded they will just revert back to the original overtime format. They plan on discussing implementing this policy for the regular season during the owner's meetings in May.

I don't understand why they just adopt the college overtime rules, but change the yard line in which you start. In college, it is the opponents 25, but I think in the NFL they could start from their own 20.

[Innovator]

We're fucked.
Well....shit.

[Innovator]

Best we can hope for would be a Hurricane Pick Six

[ClockShot]

The 4 teams that went against the vote were the Vikes, Bengals, Bills, and Ravens.

In case anybody was wondering who and why.

[Gonzo]

I don't understand why they just adopt the college overtime rules, but change the yard line in which you start. In college, it is the opponents 25, but I think in the NFL they could start from their own 20.

I don't really like college overtime. In essence, it removes aspects of the game that are integral to it.

They should just have kept OT the way it is.

[Gonzo]

Anyways, after thinking about it, if they're going to make this change they should have done it like this:

Whether team A scores a field goal or touchdown, they must kick off to team B who then has a chance to match the score. If team B matches team A's score from their initial drive, the game then goes to sudden death rules.

I don't understand why they're limiting the chance at offense to a field goal. Just go all or nothing. I think the biggest detraction from the overtime rules are that one team may not get a chance at offense and that the game is decided on the flip of a coin (which I personally think is a bullshit excuse to lose a game.) Make it all or nothing with the point scoring (not just a field goal, include touchdowns) and you eliminate the biggest criticism, at least in my opinion.

[FearedSanctity]

I don't understand why they just adopt the college overtime rules, but change the yard line in which you start. In college, it is the opponents 25, but I think in the NFL they could start from their own 20.

Except that removes an important part of the game, the kickoff and return. That's what I don't like about college OT is that the points are pretty much already a given, hardly have to do anything to earn them. This way yeah, both teams are almost guaranteed a shot, but it's your teams ability that decides just how easy those points are to get.

[FearedSanctity]

I don't understand why they're limiting the chance at offense to a field goal. Just go all or nothing. I think the biggest detraction from the overtime rules are that one team may not get a chance at offense and that the game is decided on the flip of a coin (which I personally think is a bullshit excuse to lose a game.) Make it all or nothing with the point scoring (not just a field goal, include touchdowns) and you eliminate the biggest criticism, at least in my opinion.

Pretty sure their reasoning is that, if you can't stop them from scoring a TD, you really have no business getting the win.

[Gonzo]

Pretty sure their reasoning is that, if you can't stop them from scoring a TD, you really have no business getting the win.

You could technically rationalize that for a field goal as well.

[FearedSanctity]

True, but come on, fuck losing by a field goal. If I'm gonna lose I'd rather it be because their offense played better than my defense. Not because their kicker has a strong leg. And it's getting to the point where most teams don't need very far to go to get in FG range anymore.

Maybe it's just me, but losing by a first possession FG is the shittiest way possible to end a game.

[Shadow]

I'm gonna agree with FS. At least give the opposing team another shot at actually answering back.

[Hanso Amore]

Bills let their coach make the vote, since it affected him most.

So Gailey probably voted against to make his job easier....less of a choice

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Why does it have to be sudden death? Why not just play another quarter? Or at least a partial quarter or something?

Football is definitely a game that uses a lot of strategy tied into the game clock, I really don't like that element being eliminated when it comes to overtime.

[McLegend]

You don't want to players getting even more beat up by playing another quarter. That can't work.

I always liked the rule.

[Reavant]

They should have just changed the procedure for overtime the same as when the xfl used to start their games

[Gonzo]

The whole point of the sudden death rule was to stop games from ending in a tie, or the frequency of them at least. I've never had a problem with the rule. You lost the coin toss, play some defense and get the ball. Or, win the game in the 4 quarters allotted in regulation.

There never will be a perfect solution, and there will always be complaints about whatever rule is in place from some camp. I don't even see why they're fucking with it to be honest.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

You don't want to players getting even more beat up by playing another quarter. That can't work.

I always liked the rule.It doesn't have to be a "full" quarter. Even if it is, how often does OT happen and how much more beat up are the players really going to get? I think they could manage.

Teams do things in overtime they would never do during a regular game unless they were in the situation at the end of a half/game because of the game clock.

I just don't like such a drastic change between regulation and overtime. It's almost like its a completely different game when it comes first score sudden death.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I guess the game could continually get tied but I don't know. I just find their current system to be pretty odd. Just doesn't seem to fit the game of football.

I also don't get the college rule, why totally eliminate kick-off and returns? Special teams is 1/3 of the game

[FearedSanctity]

It doesn't have to be a "full" quarter. Even if it is, how often does OT happen and how much more beat up are the players really going to get? I think they could manage.

Teams do things in overtime they would never do during a regular game unless they were in the situation at the end of a half/game because of the game clock.

I just don't like such a drastic change between regulation and overtime. It's almost like its a completely different game when it comes first score sudden death.

OT couldn't be an extra full quarter or even half quarter. Why? It'd take too long. A regular 4Q game often will run over the usual time given to it by CBS/FOX, let alone a game that had to play one or more extra quarters. And even if it's a shorter OT period wouldn't mean anything. The last 2 minutes of a half are the longest part of a game.

Plus, the NFLPA would never agree to it because, as someone else said, it gives the players more time to be injured. Bullshit to me, you make hundreds of thousands to millions and millions of dollars, just play the fucking game I play for free and get hurt doing at my own expense. Bullshit, but their reasoning nonetheless.

[FearedSanctity]

So with the Eagles admitting to listening to trades for McNabb, I wonder if he'll get pussy hurt and start crying and demanding a trade?

[SammyG]

Almost Bradford time!

[Skippord]

So with the Eagles admitting to listening to trades for McNabb, I wonder if he'll get pussy hurt and start crying and demanding a trade?
being that he hasn't done that ever I doubt it

[Heros Welcome]

This should make for a great Hard Knocks!

The Jets are going Hollywood.

The Jets will be the subject of the popular HBO series "Hard Knocks," which chronicles the behind-the-scenes lives of players on an NFL team as they go through training camp, the Daily News confirmed Wednesday.

The team released a statement Wednesday trumpeting a "major media announcement" at noon Thursday at their training facility in Florham Park, featuring owner Woody Johnson, GM Mike Tannenbaum and coach Rex Ryan.

The series is sure to produce great theater for HBO viewers, considering the characters on the Jets, including Ryan, probably the most colorful coach in the NFL and marquee quarterback Mark Sanchez, lockdown cornerback Darrelle Revis and future Hall of Fame running back LaDainian Tomlinson.

It's likely the Jets will return to Cortland in upstate New York for camp, which begins in late July.

As was first reported in the Daily News in January, the Jets were the lead candidate for the show. HBO sports boss Ross Greenburg and Tannenbaum had discussed the possibility throughout the 2009 season.

HBO would not comment on Tuesday, but at the recent Manny Pacquiao-Joshua Clottey fight at Cowboy Stadium in Arlington, Texas, Greenburg - a longtime Jets fan - was joined at ringside by Jets owner Woody Johnson and Tannenbaum.

This represents a dramatic change in philosophy for the Jets, who now fancy themselves as a media-friendly organization. Two years ago, under Eric Mangini, they were a clandestine franchise that never would have allowed cameras into their inner sanctum.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2010/03/24/2010-03-24_jets_to_star_in_hbos_hard_knocks.html#ixzz0j9gsW8AF

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Rexy was made for that show.

[RP]

I dont care how many SB's Ben Roethlisberger wins, he's a rapist in my book.

I love the qoute " The DVD overwrote itself " ...... wrong.

What a fucking creep. And if he isnt suspended, then the NFL is basically racist. They've suspended black people for less.

[Gonzo]

To be honest, it doesn't matter if Roethlisberger is guilty or not. The guy has put himself in situations where he is at least accused of wrong doing. The public perception is pretty much reality and I imagine that the perception of him is poor after these two incidents.

It doesn't shock me that Goodell hasn't done anything yet. He was all over Pacman's ass, but Roethlisberger is the face of the Steelers. We wouldn't want to suspend a player of that magnitude, would we?

I heard on the radio today that the security feed of the night of the alleged assault was copied over by the club by more recent footage. I recall on Mike & Mike that the security tapes copied over on a weekly basis or something of that nature. If they don't have any video, it is all basically "he said, she said" and I don't see how any DA in the country could get a conviction, guilty or not. On top of that, the girl was 20, had a fake ID confiscated in the same establishment weeks prior to this incident, and was intoxicated over a .20 BAC.

Roethlisberger should count his lucky charms on this one.

[Innovator]

Tebow wanted to say a prayer before the Wonderlic test.

Someone told him to shut the fuck up.

[FearedSanctity]

When I read about that on PFT the other day I let out a good laugh. I know Tebow means well, but he's got to understand, he's in the minority now. Not everyone will appreciate or care for how open he is about his religion or his opinion on certain issues. He needs to just keep it to himself and move on

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Is that really true? I've heard it too. Hilarious if it is.

I mean the players must be getting sick of hearing about Tebow too. Not that its his fault he gets so much coverage but I think he could feel some backlash from current players.

[FearedSanctity]

Tebow's denying it happened, but that's typically what someone who gets told to shut the fuck up will do

[Skippord]

I'd like to know who told him to shut up

[Innovator]

http://deadspin.com/5501523/searching-forthe-player-who-told-tim-tebow-to-stfu

[Reavant]

fantastic

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on how strict the rules for pre-draft rookies are, Tebow must have been annoying everyone there a lot for a STFU to be used. If the NFL or reporters can't get the name of the guy, it must mean even the NFL officials were upset with him enough to not punish the yeller.

[RoXer]

Or it didn't happen.

[CSL]

Are you trying to say that a journalist potentially altered the truth or maybe even lied about something?

[Skippord]

I wonder if Urban Meyer got some sand in his vagina about that too

[McLegend]

Maybe he thought it was that reporter that told Tebow to Shut the Fuck up

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

This Tim Tebow stuff is unbelievable. It's like a phenomenon or something. It'd probably be a good idea to get a DUI or something to take the edge off, sad to say but that's how fucked our society is lol

[Skippord]

I've heard that Urban Meyer plans on taking off his shirt and wrestling any team's general manager that doesn't draft Tebow

[El Fangel]

Had the whole game explained to be, face to face with someone today.

Helped alot and I look forward to next season :)

[SammyG]

the 65 yard line.

[El Fangel]

I learned that there is no such thing :D

[Hanso Amore]

Ugh

Tim Tebow is in Buffalo for a private workout and went out to dinner with management and Jim Kelly Last night.

[Gonzo]

I feel you Hanso.

If I were a fan of a team like the Bills, I think you have to go the more conventional route with a quarterback. I don't think a team should draft Tebow unless they plan on using him to supplement what they already have.

[Innovator]

Wow, poor Bills fans

[CSL]

Press slobbering over Sam Bradford's pro day

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, completed 50 out of 50. Crown his ass.</font>

[Hanso Amore]

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, completed 50 out of 50. Crown his ass.</font>

He is who they thought he was

[Hanso Amore]

PS Tim Tebows bible thumping clean image is the exact opposite of Jim Kelly, who is infamous for his drinking in Buffalo (Not to mention his chasing of tail despite being married with kids.)

Shit, him and his buddies partying all night cost us at least 2 of the 4 super bowls.

[James Steele]

Yeah, completed 50 out of 50. Crown his ass.


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[Big Fat Mike]

I hope Tebow ends up being one of the best Quarterbacks of this Era, just so everyone can eat a big pile of crow.

Shut the fuck up - nobody has seen him play IN THE NFL YET. Pretty sure that Ryan Leaf had all the tools to be a hall of famer. Look how that panned out. What about Jeff George? Wasn't he supposed to set the league on fire?

Now consider this. Nobody in their right mind would have thought Tom Brady had the tools to be the quarterback that he is. While Tebow may not have the arm strength or accuracy that Brady does, I'm pretty sure his work ethic is there.

Or maybe I'm an asshole. After all, I thought that Mike Cherry was the future of the Giants for a few seasons.

[Hanso Amore]

What tools are you talking about? The only one I see in this thread is....you!


BURN!


Calm down fuck face. I simply dont want that fucker on my team. Dont make this more than it is.

[Big Fat Mike]

JIM KELLY IS A TRANNY

[Hanso Amore]

JIM KELLY IS A TRANNY

Do you know how many nights I wished this to be true?

[Droford]

NFL finally votes to allow teams to tell their crowd to cheer and make noise with their video boards. WOW.

Also, the Pittsburgh Steelers are the new Cincinatti Bengals.

[Hanso Amore]

Except they are good.

More like the mid 90s cowboys

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants sign Deon Grant. Nice.

Even better - this means Can't Catch Brown is officially gone!</font> :love:

[James Steele]

Except they are good.

More like the mid 90s cowboys

:rofl:

NOT EVEN CLOSE

[Gonzo]

Giants sign Deon Grant. Nice.

Even better - this means Can't Catch Brown is officially gone! :love:

Source? I just want to read the article, I don't doubt its truth. :D

Never mind, read it on ESPN.

[Gonzo]

I think I've said it before, and maybe it's just me, but with all the fame and fortune that comes with being a professional athlete, I would never leave my home. Ever.

The only places I would be are practice, team functions, or home. If I had a family I guess I would do stuff with them, but these guys who aren't hitched who go out and party it up and everything always find trouble. I suppose it's the lifestyle, and they're entitled to it blah blah blah. We all know their position. I don't know if it's the twenty four hour seven day a week news coverage, but it just seems that professional athletes are in trouble left and right.

There are like 2-3 guys per week, it seems, in trouble with the law in the NFL.

[Skippord]

maybe if they weren't dumb they could go out and have a good time without getting arrested

[Supreme Olajuwon]

yeah that's just a shitty excuse to shift the blame away from the players who make terrible choices

[Skippord]

At least Shawn Rogers never makes bad choices

[Gonzo]

yeah that's just a shitty excuse to shift the blame away from the players who make terrible choices

I don't know if you meant me, but I don't excuse these guys. They're 100% to blame.

Look at Roethlisberger, guilty or not, this guy will probably always have these accusations hanging over him during his playing career. All over players just poorly represent themselves, their teams, and the league.

[Crimson]

Well the Cowboys are releasing Flozell and Ken Hamlin today. I guess for sure now they will be drafting a tackle and a safety in the first 2 rounds. Hamlin after getting that contract was never affective on defense, and Flozell is like a big dumb dog that never corrects mistakes.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think I've said it before, and maybe it's just me, but with all the fame and fortune that comes with being a professional athlete, I would never leave my home. Ever.

The only places I would be are practice, team functions, or home. If I had a family I guess I would do stuff with them, but these guys who aren't hitched who go out and party it up and everything always find trouble. I suppose it's the lifestyle, and they're entitled to it blah blah blah. We all know their position. I don't know if it's the twenty four hour seven day a week news coverage, but it just seems that professional athletes are in trouble left and right.

There are like 2-3 guys per week, it seems, in trouble with the law in the NFL.Wow sounds like a pretty lame existence Kurt Warner

[SammyG]

3 weeks away from Bradford being a Ram!

[Brujesino]

i just wanted to say that the Raiders will win the superbowl this upcoming season :y:

[MTH15]

You retarded fuck the raiders wont ever win anything. But if the falcons get their d-line revamped, a SS and a CB. Probably a couple o line and SUPER BOWL BABY. And krispy....if your reading this i dont care if you guys win 11 super bowls fuck the saints that ass is ours this year

[McLegend]

According to ESPN's bottom line Donovan Mcnabb was traded to the Redskins!!!!!??//

[McLegend]

OMG he was

[Droford]

Snyder couldn't resist.

I wonder what they had to give up.

[McLegend]

Sweet Jesus

[Reavant]

wow

[Droford]

Jason Campbell will go somewhere where he'll have a consistent coaching staff and flourish for years to come while McNabb has maybe a couple more good years left in him in a best case scenario.

[McLegend]

For an alleged 2nd round pick.

[FearedSanctity]

Sooooo they kept him in the division?

WHY?

[FearedSanctity]

For an alleged 2nd round pick.

And either a 3rd or 4th next year

[James Steele]

Sooooo they kept him in the division?

WHY?


ROFL

I hate the Eagles and Redskins, but I hope McNabb makes Philly eat every fucking bad word they always said about him.

[McLegend]

STFU

And I guess the Eagles don't think he is that good anymore.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Ugh god dammit. I wanted McNabb out of the division.</font>

[ClockShot]

McNabb to D.C. I guess if Snyder wants it, he gets it.

I heard The Fossil was willing to send Asomugha and their 2nd round pick to get him. Wonder why he didn't pull the trigger on it.

[FearedSanctity]

STFU

And I guess the Eagles don't think he is that good anymore.

Doesn't really matter. Like, 90% of players in any sport will play incredibly against their old teams. And he's not that bad off in WAS either, just has no line. Not that it matters since he dominates when under pressure anyway

[McLegend]

Doesn't really matter. Like, 90% of players in any sport will play incredibly against their old teams. And he's not that bad off in WAS either, just has no line. Not that it matters since he dominates when under pressure anyway

Drew Bledsoe and The Patriots might argue against this.

[FearedSanctity]

McNabb to D.C. I guess if Snyder wants it, he gets it.

I heard The Fossil was willing to send Asomugha and their 2nd round pick to get him. Wonder why he didn't pull the trigger on it.

Davis was all for it, McNabb and apparently Reid weren't. McNabb obviously didn't want to play somewhere as terrible as Oakland and Reid didn't want to send McNabb somewhere he didn't want to be. Thus no OAK or BUF

[FearedSanctity]

Drew Bledsoe and The Patriots might argue against this.

Thus the other 10% ;)

[McLegend]

Thus the other 10% ;)

Fair enough. Even though 90% is kind of high. Either way totally irrelevant here.

More importantly Donvan McNabb era is now over. That's very sad :(

[Heros Welcome]

Mcnabb stays in the division! I do expect him to make Philly pay BIG TIME! Good thing for the skins though is that they def go OL round 1 and will probably land Russell Okung to play the LT spot for them. Further rebuilding there OL....

OR they could try and find someone to drop back a few picks, and look to take someone like Bryan Bulaga or Trent Williams while regaining a pick in round 2. Either way I like this deal for the Skins. I think Donavon has got a lot of game left in him and will make an immediate impact.

[FearedSanctity]

Making up a high BS percentage was faster than typing "a really high amount of". But regardless, there's no denying McNabb still has plenty left in him, almost instantly making the decision to keep him in the division a terrible idea. Those decent WRs Washington already had instantly get a lot better from now having a QB that can hit them when they're open.

[FearedSanctity]

Also, WTF. Where was the Eagles willingness to trade him when Denver wanted him?

[Innovator]

How happy is Donovan to be out of Philly? I bet he did cartwheels out of PA

[McLegend]

I doubt that since he lives in Arizona.

[Icess]

With Wilbon

[DrA]

What the fuck are the Eagles doing

[James Steele]

They are sucking his dick HARD on SportsCenter.

[Shadow]

Wonder what this is gonna mean to the Skins QBs. Thinking Campbell's out of a job right now or he's been dropped to number 2 slot.

Have to see what they do after the draft.

[OssMan]

Who the fuck is Deon Grant

That's a good move for the Redskins though probably I think cause McNabb is so good just hope for them it doesn't turn into their typical "alienated big player" situation but I dunno.

[Johnny Vegas]

I cannot fucking believe this horseshit. The Eagles were building this team around Kolb the whole time. Bunch of sneaky fucks. It's funny that it took them this long to get some nice additions to the offense and two years later, he's gone. I just hope Donovan doesn't rape us too bad this season. Kolb has some large shoes to fill. The pressure is on because don't think for one second that Vick wouldn't mind being a starter again.

I swear when i heard the news, i looked just like my avatar.

[Hanso Amore]

Drew Bledsoe and The Patriots might argue against this.

Hey, Bledsoe was running the bills Offense the last time they beat the Pats.

God, how fucking sad. Its been like 5 almost 6 years.

Bills :(

[Kris P Lettus]

New Orleans Saints Football

[ClockShot]

Rams cut Mark Bulger loose.

Guess this means Rams are gonna choose Bradford after all?

[Reavant]

yup... if bulger lands in buffalo i will burn the city down

[James Steele]

FUCK! Poor Bradford...hopefully he doesn't sacrifice his shoulder for a shitty team like Stafford did.

[McLegend]

I just want to say that I'm the biggest Donovan McNabb fan ever, but Donovan McNabb is no Jon Elway.

[Johnny Vegas]

You're right, because Elway had Terrell Davis.

[McLegend]

No that's not even it.

Jon Elway is the supieror QB over 5 anyday.

[Reavant]

ur racist

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol Brett Favre is a grandfather</font>

[Skippord]

John Elway

[McLegend]

John Elway

Yeah I'm a fuckin idiot.