NFL 2010 Off Season Thread

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Damn. I'm making a really early prediction at the Giants' season-opening 53-man roster, and I just realized how big of a logjam there is at LB.

Bulluck, Boley, Sintim, Goff, and Dillard are locks. Coughlin usually takes at least 7 LB, sometimes even 8 (which I think is a bit much). Blackburn, Kehl, and Wilkinson could all potentially make it, but that would leave no room for rookie Adrian Tracy, and Coughlin tends to get his late-round rookie LBs onto the team to play special teams. And I'm not even counting Zak DeOssie, who is technically a LB but will only play as the long snapper. Something's gotta give.</font>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Captivating stuff out of Giants training camp.

[Domino]

WHO DAT!

Sorry. Had to do it for the first post.

[FearedSanctity]

Dumervil likely out for the year.

CANCEL THE SEASON

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Don't worry, Tebow's got this.

[Skippord]

maybe Jarvis Moss will stop being useless this year

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Moss hasn't missed a practice all training camp. Moss in the final year of a contract = Moss tryin to get paid.

Straight Cash Homie

[Supreme Olajuwon]

One of the refs from the Steelers-Seahawks Super Bowl admitted he blew the calls that screwed Seattle over. Mother fucker.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

The Seahawks got raped by the Steelers :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[SammyG]

They stuck their dick in that game like a rapist, they call them Slim Roethlisbergers

[Supreme Olajuwon]

R U READY 4 SOME FOOTBALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[Jeritron]

I think I'll go to training camp this week

[SammyG]

Boys Bungals tonight

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Love how they mention that Adam Jones doesn't want to go by Pac Man anymore, Al and Cris then call him Pac Man 5 times in the next 15 seconds.

[McLegend]

Pac Man

[Skippord]

is the Bengals punter's last name Q-Bert?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Huber

[Crimson]

lol @ the difference between Rice and Emmitt's speech. Rice straight reading off cards pausing every sentence. Emmitt's no cards, all emotion.

[McLegend]

At least Jerry Rice hasn't said any of these things on live TV.

“Eli Manning has been given the rice of passage.”

“What happened tonight, the strength of the Patriots team got debacled.”


“Go to Arizona, sharp as a whistle, and do some finishing touches, so we can go down in the Super Bowl and play our best football of the whole entire season.”


“You cannot change the stripes of a leopard.”

[Droford]

lol at a coaches challenge on a meaningless play in the first exhibition game with 3 minutes left to go in the game

[Crimson]

At least Jerry Rice hasn't said any of these things on live TV.

“Eli Manning has been given the rice of passage.”

“What happened tonight, the strength of the Patriots team got debacled.”


“Go to Arizona, sharp as a whistle, and do some finishing touches, so we can go down in the Super Bowl and play our best football of the whole entire season.”


“You cannot change the stripes of a leopard.”

Is Rice even on live tv? lol

Yea Im surprised Emmit didn't goof on his speech.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jets owner Woody Johnson is now acknowledging that he doesn't think Darrelle Revis will play in 2010.

RIP Jets' 2010 season</font>

[RP]

Darrelle Revis is incredibly overrated. I mean, the Jets will be perfectly fine without him. BTW. You lost to the Colts with him. Manning still destroyed your defense in the 2nd half. I'm pretty sure the Jets should spend there money elsewhere.

[RP]

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[Nervous Ferret]

FUCK. So close.

[SammyG]

I don't buy it. I think Revis plays.

[Team Sheep]

Fuck I hope Revis plays. The Jets are his bitch at the moment. I don't blame him for asking for silly amounts, because he can, but I wish he'd show a bit of desire to be a Jet.

[Droford]

I keep hearing rumors of a sign and trade with the Ravens and Jets for Revis since the Ravens are absolutely DESPERATE for a CB but I have no idea who the Ravens could trade that would get them Revis, but its an interesting rumor. The Ravens do have McGahee/McClain at RB that are tradeable but the Jets dont need RBs. Troy Smith is also available..

If they got Revis, I think you could say book em to the Super Bowl because the only weakness last year on defense was the CBs getting beat like drums and flagged every other play for PI.

[Jeritron]

http://internet128.com/images/new-england-patriots-tom-brady-wes-welker-training-camp-2007.jpg

[thecc]

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[Droford]

Big Ben now hails from town that doesn't exist (http://benmaller.com/2010/08/nfl-star-now-hails-from-town-that-doesnt-really-exist/)

He should have just gone with "Parts Unknown"

[Team Sheep]

Rex :love:

[CSL]

Anybody come across any torrents or downloads for the 1st ep of Hard Knocks? Found some decent streams but I'd like to be able to D/L and play through my PS3.

[Droford]

Brandon Marshall wants to play for the Miami Heat

[RP]

I'd fuck the shit out of Joe Namaths daughter.

[Team Sheep]

Anybody come across any torrents or downloads for the 1st ep of Hard Knocks? Found some decent streams but I'd like to be able to D/L and play through my PS3.

Where's the streams?

[Ermaximus]

Should be fun seeing how Kolb does as a starter tonight, even if it is for only a series or two. Really hoping Jax can find some decent fucking recievers other than Sims-Walker.

[Emperor Smeat]

:rofl: Roy Williams response to the whole rookie hazing issue with Dez Bryant.

Weeks ago Dez refused to carry any vets pads, then Roy said the issue wasn't a big deal but hinted at making Dez pay more for the traditional receivers meal.

Today Dez brings all the WRs new Jordan sneakers but got Roy the wrong size by accident. Roy responded by saying it also didn't matter but he did feel a bit more thirsty and hungry.

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=5460736

[Hanso Amore]

God I love football to much

I am actually excited to watch the new Bills systems....

Wow.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Wow wtf, 49ers backup RB Glen Coffee retires before his 2nd season even begins. He was a good fill-in for Gore and bulked up this offseason for nothing.</font>

[Droford]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/08/500x_raylewisskulls.jpg

"F. B.," who sent in today's lovely wake-up photo, says not only did his friend make a sculpture of Ray Lewis skeeting atop a mound of human skulls, but was inspired by a painting in a Baltimore area bar. Which, presumably was inspired by an actual Ray Lewis incident. By the by, we'd love to see the painting, so if any readers know the bar, send us a shot of the, um, "art."

[Team Sheep]

Oh nice. Hard Knocks isn't regionally blocked on NFL.com :)

[SammyG]

Hard Knocks is amazing. Rex Ryan seems like such a cool dude, great coach.

BRADFORD ERA BEGINS TONIGHT.

[SammyG]

Nniiceee Rams gonna get Westbrook. Great backup to SJ

[RoXer]

Mike Goldberg is doing the play-by-play for the Cardinals's preseason game. It's weird.

[Gonzo]

Mike Goldberg is doing the play-by-play for the Cardinals's preseason game. It's weird.

Is Golic on color commentary?

[RoXer]

Goldberg the UFC guy, not Greenberg.

[SammyG]

Bradford is gonna get KILLED this year if we don't get a decent o-line

[Skippord]

pretty sure the Broncos offensive line wants Tim Tebow dead

[Skippord]

WAR Tebow with a touchdown run

[FearedSanctity]

pretty sure the Broncos offensive line wants Tim Tebow dead

Yeah no shit. Dude looked good and accurate, only going back to his old throwing style on deep passes, but even then those were money. The line just isn't giving him any kind of time.

[Skippord]

he's way faster than I thought he was

looked good on the last drive

[Supreme Olajuwon]

To be fair the Bengals front 7 rapes nigs all day.

[DaveBrawl]

Orton really looked good too. I feel bad that he's gonna get the shaft when Tebow is ready.

[FearedSanctity]

Quinn throws like the homo he is. Maybe if he'd stop eye fucking his receivers he'd be able to complete a pass

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Tebow looked like a bitch guys. Sorry.

[McLegend]

Supreme wears Tim Tebow pajamas.

[CSL]

Surprised nobody mentioned Stafon Johnson. I hope that guy has a great career, sure as fuck deserves it.

[Crimson]

Jimmy Johnson is gonna be on Survivor WTFFFF

[Supreme Olajuwon]

McLegend's mom has been talking about my bedroom attire again. Gonna have to talk to that bitch about what she can say when her mouth's not full.

[McLegend]

Can you also tell her to get me a pair of Tim Tebow pajamas?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You can have mine. Careful though, they're a little crusty.

[McLegend]

That's mighty nice of ya, Supreme.

[CSL]

Mark Sanchez meet Antrel Rolle.

[OssMan]

LOL Brandon Jacobs heel turn

[McLegend]

Did Eli Manning die?

[Gonzo]

I think that Tirico said it was a 3 stitch laceration or something.

[Big Fat Mike]

3 inch laceration

[Emperor Smeat]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0816/ny_u_elimts2_576.jpg

ESPN had the picture on their main page before of Eli getting "JACKED UP" but took it down.

[SammyG]

What a deep blade job

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Victor Cruz better make the team instead of Sinorice Moss</font>

[Triple A]

Can't believe that drunk motherfucker Giants fan tried to get all up in Fireman Ed's face during his Jets chant.

[RoXer]

NICK FOLK!!!!!!!

[Hanso Amore]

Fireman Ed is a greasy fuck wad who needs to get aids.

[McLegend]

Bret Favre apprently is going to play after 3 Vikings met him in Hattiesburg, Mississppi.

[SammyG]

Fuck that fucking redneck faggot.

[CSL]

Brett Favre > Greece

[SammyG]

Brett Favre=hick

[Big Fat Mike]

I hope Brett Favre gets both legs broken. Go to training camp, you asshole

[Skippord]

training camp is stupid anyway

[SammyG]

Love how these Montana boys are makin a name for themselves. Biermann doin' work for the Falcons, Mariani might even be a starter for Tennessee, and Schillinger had a pick for the Falcons first preseason week. In addition, Carpenter was amazing for the Dolphins last year, and Lex Hilliard is getting more carries and scores.

[Aguakate]

There's no way Brett Favre should be allowed to get away with what he does every year now. This is the biggest case of ONE player making it obvious he feels he is bigger than the team, and both the Jets and Vikings have fallen prey to this.

When the Green Bay thing went down, at first I was like "Wow, they should've let him take as long as he needed", but now it's just ridiculous.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

What is he getting away with? The Vikings decide whether or not Favre plays. ESPN decides how to sensationalize the same story every year. Don't really see how any of this is Favre getting away with anything.

[Aguakate]

All players have been in training camp, doing the drills, working their butts off, they had a preseason game...

...the guys who have stepped up as quarterbacks have been working hard...

...and now all of a sudden Brett Favre decides to come in, and automatically those guys are no longer even an option to start...'cause Favre is the starter. So it's like "Thanks for ur hard work, ur dedication, and the time u have spent over the last few weeks getting ready. Favre will take over now". It's not fair.

This is how Favre had those Vikings players who went to see him, as well as the whole Vikings organization:

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[Supreme Olajuwon]

How is that Favre's fault? If your boss told you you could have a bunch more time off than everybody else, would you turn it down?

The Vikings control this situation, not Favre.

[Aguakate]

Exactly, that's what I mean. He pulls this off because teams allow him to. The Packers took alot of flack, but at least they stood tall, firm, and said "Aaron Rogers is who we're going with and that's it".

But the Jets and Vikings don't have the testicular fortitude to do so.

[Hanso Amore]

I hope Brett Farve's Wife dies of Cancer

[Jeritron]

How is that Favre's fault? If your boss told you you could have a bunch more time off than everybody else, would you turn it down?

The Vikings control this situation, not Favre.

That doesn't mean he's not an asshole

[McLegend]

Exactly, that's what I mean. He pulls this off because teams allow him to. The Packers took alot of flack, but at least they stood tall, firm, and said "Aaron Rogers is who we're going with and that's it".

But the Jets and Vikings don't have the testicular fortitude to do so.

The Jets(at the time) and Vikings also don't have the quality back up that the Packers had.

[Aguakate]

The Jets(at the time) and Vikings also don't have the quality back up that the Packers had.

Right, and Brett takes advantage of this and acts like a diva.

[SammyG]

Fucking hate Favre. Hope he gets absolutely destroyed this year.

[Skippord]

you people are ridiculous

[Aguakate]

^^^^
So are u with ur little Colorado Rockies avatar.

They suck.

[Skippord]

clever

[Emperor Smeat]

http://admin.listenernetwork.com/modules/massemail2/uploads/images/123/johnson/breakingnews.jpg

[CSL]

I wanna see Brett Favre play as long as possible, I don't care if he doesn't decide until 5 minutes before opening kickoff. For anything other than rivalry reasons, I fail to see how he can get 'LeBron heat' from so many people.

[Skippord]

some people seem to think training camp is necessary or something

Brett Favre is awesome you fucks

[McLegend]

I love Bret Favre.

[SammyG]

Alright, Favre lovers. Do you not get it? I don't mind him as a player, dude has still got it. It's the constant bullshit un-retiring and retiring that I hate. And how much attention he craves. He LOVES having people talk about him. Everyone knew he was gonna come back, and that he just wanted to skip Training Camp. He shoulda just said that. I hope someone destroys him.

[McLegend]

He's just having fun out there.

[Skippord]

so do you hate Michael Jordan too Sammy?

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Exactly, that's what I mean. He pulls this off because teams allow him to. The Packers took alot of flack, but at least they stood tall, firm, and said "Aaron Rogers is who we're going with and that's it".

But the Jets and Vikings don't have the testicular fortitude to do so.
Favre isn't the first veteran to think over retirement only to come out of it right in the middle of training camp. Shit he isn't even the first player to do it this year.

I do agree he could go about things a bit differently but at this point he is just a football player that people are going to hate no matter what he does.

[Aguakate]

The problem isn't him retiring and then thinking it over and coming back...the problem is he's done it for 3 YEARS IN A ROW.

And it's unfair to the other players in the team (first the Jets, now Vikings), because they have been busting their butts at training camp, working hard, giving their all, while Brett acts like a diva and acts all hard so that they (the team and the players) practically beg him to come back. The guy who has been practicing as quarterback for the Vikings all of a sudden finds himself on the bench, because Favre decided to come back. The weeks he's been working hard, practicing, etc? Forget about it. Brett's back, so, thanks for nothing, Favre will take over.

That is unfair. Favre makes himself bigger than the team and his teammates, and the teams cater to him.

[Skippord]

the players don't care though

so why do you?

[Aguakate]

...So u really expect players to come out and say they don't agree with the situation?

Tarvaris Jackson, who would've been the starter had Favre retired, said this:

"Honestly, I really don't care," Jackson said. "I feel like if my number is called I'll be ready and I'm going to continue to try and work hard and get better. That's all I can do. My teammates, that's their prerogative. I can't really control that. I'm just going to do my part."

You can clearly see he feels bad. When he says "My teammates, that's their prerogative", he's talking about how 3 Vikings players went to Brett's house and "talked him into staying".

It sucks.

[Skippord]

maybe Tarvaris Jackson should suck less and he could win the starting job

[Aguakate]

...right.

...he's going to beat Favre for the job.

He's probably relieved, though...he won't have to carry with that 7-9 season.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Giants signed a kid from my high school to play QB because everyone else is hurt. Hooray

[RP]

apparently Percy Harvin died

[Boomer]

He collapsed at practice, but I think he's still with us.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That kid's gotta retire. I've never seen anyone with migraines as bad as his play sports, let alone in the NFL.

[RP]

That kid's gotta retire. I've never seen anyone with migraines as bad as his play sports, let alone in the NFL.

Terrell Davis

But who knows. His might be worse.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Oh yeah.

But apparently Harvin went almost into a seizure because he looked up at the sky to find the ball on a punt return. That's fucked up.

[RP]

I dont remember him having this much of an issue when he played at Florida

[Supreme Olajuwon]

He missed two games his soph. year but other than that nothing. I guess if they flared up during UF practices it wouldn't make the national news. But in the NFL it does.

[RP]

Did he have issues like this during the season last year?

[Innovator]

The dome probably helps him

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I only remember this because he was on my fantasy team but he missed a game and a bunch of practices because of them.

[Crimson]

I know who not to draft this weekend.

[Droford]

Lagarrette Blount apparently missed his calling (http://blog.oregonlive.com/nfl/2010/08/reports_legarrette_blount_form.html) as a professional boxer.

Also learned a little tidbit of a new rule I didnt know about:


"It's not like they hit me so hard my helmet got knocked off," Blount said. "They kept knocking my helmet off. I lowered my shoulder and they reached around the back of my head and pulled my helmet off.

"When somebody loses their helmet, now the play is dead," Blount said, referring to a new NFL rule going into effect this season that stops a play when a player's helmet comes off. "It's supposed to die.

Its only if the ball carrier loses their helmet though..everyone else is free to lose theirs as they wish I guess. Maybe 85 will strap his helmet on a bit tighter this year.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants sign Shawn Andrews to a 6-year deal for very little guaranteed money. Awesome.</font>

[Big Fat Mike]

So after forcing people to pay for PSL's at the new stadium, there IS A CHANCE that a small quantity of premium seats for each home game will be made available to the general public through ticketmaster at 10 AM monday. Can't wait to see what kind of class action lawsuit that current and former season ticket holders come up with. l

[McLegend]

Not too excited about this Eagles offensive line.

[McLegend]

This 2nd half has been kind of depressing.

[OssMan]

So after forcing people to pay for PSL's at the new stadium, there IS A CHANCE that a small quantity of premium seats for each home game will be made available to the general public through ticketmaster at 10 AM monday. Can't wait to see what kind of class action lawsuit that current and former season ticket holders come up with. l
I am pretty sure there are only 3 former season ticket holders who refused to pay for PSL's and my family is one of them :(

[Innovator]

Not too excited about this Eagles offensive line.
That was the first thing I said when I saw the Eagles on Offense. Not a promising sign for them.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Matt Dodge sucks. I'm sure there's a veteran punter sitting by the phone that the Giants could sign.</font>

[McLegend]

That was the first thing I said when I saw the Eagles on Offense. Not a promising sign for them.

No, no it's not.

[SammyG]

The Rams' playcalling drives me through a wall. How vanilla can this offense be?

RAMS WIN RAMS WIN

[FearedSanctity]

BRADY QUINN MAKES ME SO ANGRYYYYY

[Gonzo]

Just got home from the Giants game. New place is awesome.

I'm with Vito, Dodge is terrible right now. I don't know what his issue is, but there is no way they should carry him into the season if that's how he punts the ball.

[Droford]

The two highlights of the Ravens win over the Redskins were the 51 yard fake punt and the 1 yard TD run by McGahee followed up by the Redskins band playing "Hail to the Redskins"..I guess they figure this year it'll be better if they play the song after the Redskins give up a TD then when they score one..

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Hopefully they replay the Ravens game on NFL Network. Former teammate trying to make it at fullback

[Droford]

Well..he had 1 carry for 4 yards and a reception for 7.

He wont make it with the Ravens anyway given their crowded backfield.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

He actually touched the ball? That's wild.

Last time he carried the ball he was running behind my punishing blocks!!!!!

Seriously though I think he might have a shot to make it, you gotta think they are gonna take 4 backs at least. Rice, McClain & McGahee are the shoe-ins I'm guessing. Rest are toss ups?

Plus if he didn't have a shot why would they bring him in 3 seconds after the draft ended and change his position? Why even waste the time?

[Evil Vito]

Just got home from the Giants game. New place is awesome.

I'm with Vito, Dodge is terrible right now. I don't know what his issue is, but there is no way they should carry him into the season if that's how he punts the ball.

<font color=goldenrod>He has a strong leg, but it only shows up on every other punt. The rest are line drives. I don't get it.

Wouldn't shock me at all if the Giants went ahead and grabbed a veteran punter on the final cutdown day. I kinda hope they'd keep Dodge on the practice squad...but TC is usually pretty stingy with roster spots, practice squad or otherwise. He hated having to carry 2 kickers on the roster in 2008, nevermind 2 punters.</font>

[Gonzo]

There were some punts he kicked the piss out of, but others were just up and down so quick there that it's going to be a liability for special teams.

They have to do something if this guy can't get some hang time on those punts.

[Splaya]

Dear Josh Mcdevil,

Thank you for allowing us our first win in the preseason in over a year. We hope that in the future we can play you during the season because you cannot stop me or anyone else on the offensive side of the ball.

Sincerely,

Megatron

[FearedSanctity]

lol, come on guy. Preseason. Almost every team is running as vanilla an offense and defense as possible. Denver isn't even blitzing. Not that their lack of pass rush isn't worrying, but come on.

[Skippord]

yeah the Lions 2nd and 3rd stringers certainly outplayed the Broncos 2nd and 3rd stringers

[FearedSanctity]

Thank you for allowing us our first win in the preseason in over a year.

Serious baby steps here

[CSL]

Nate Davis looks excellent.

[IC Champion]

Nate Davis looks excellent.

Very

[McLegend]

Yeah he's slingin it. I might be scared if I was Alex smith.

And I'm not able to sleep at night if I'm David Carr.

[IC Champion]

Thats what I like about preseason, watching the leagues future qbs play

[CSL]

Joe Webb has full-on afterburners.

[RoXer]

Anybody come across any torrents or downloads for the 1st ep of Hard Knocks? Found some decent streams but I'd like to be able to D/L and play through my PS3.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HardKnocksJets

http://isohunt.com/download/205055809/hard+knocks.torrent

http://isohunt.com/download/206272161/hard+knocks.torrent

[SammyG]

Rather excited about Danario Alexander signing.

[ClockShot]

NFL owners gave Colorado sports king Stan Kroenke the green light to buy the St. Louis Rams. Only thing that stands in his way is he has to give control of the Nuggets and Rockies to his son by the end of the year, AND give up his majority stake in both teams by 2014.

Yikes, giving up 2 successful sports franchises to run 1 football team? I find that kind of crazy.

[Skippord]

I'm pretty sure you mean Avalanche, but still that seems like a weird choice

[McLegend]

Football is cash, and cash is king.

[McLegend]

Even though I think owning a hockey team is actually a good investment.

[SammyG]

Happy about that. Maybe this dude is willing to spend some cash money

[Droford]

NFL owners gave Colorado sports king Stan Kroenke the green light to buy the St. Louis Rams. Only thing that stands in his way is he has to give control of the Nuggets and Rockies to his son by the end of the year, AND give up his majority stake in both teams by 2014.

Yikes, giving up 2 successful sports franchises to run 1 football team? I find that kind of crazy.

Well at least the Rams have that rich history unlike the Nuggets and Rockies..

Even if all of it was in Los Angeles. At least we know he won't move the team back to L.A.

[McLegend]

The Rams went to 2 superbowls and won 1 St. Louis. They were the marquee NFL team in the beginning of the decade.

That doesn't count as rich history?

[DaveWadding]

Matt Loleinart

:'(

[Emperor Smeat]

Even though its only the preseason, kind of worried how Patriots went too pass happy against the Rams instead of letting the rushing have a bit more carries. Seems BB cared more about winning this game than making sure Brady doesn't go into the 4th quarter or let the rushing game have more carries to improve.

:D Welker being good after earlier in the year being told he would be out for part of this season.

[McLegend]

That Brady to Moss deep pass was a thing of beauty.

[SammyG]

SAM THE FUCKING RAM

Donnie Avery out for the year :( No retarded TD celebrations now.

[Requiem]

So this new rule about the refs spotting the ball and having to be in position before the snap can happen.

Thoughts? Obviously I think it is a bad thing, but what are everyone else's opinions? I feel they should just give that ref a helmet or something, or put some more athletic refs in that position. The refs should adapt to the game, not the game adapts to the refs. Obviously, Manning was testing it and pushing his luck that game, but for good reason IMO. Any other team that relies even somewhat on the no-huddle should be up in arms about this change, and people shouldn't simply agree with the change because it hurts a team that uses it against them.

Dunno, I never really saw too many refs getting injured from that position regardless, so it almost seems like nobody really thought about it very hard when they proposed the idea.

[McLegend]

Yeah I think that new rule is pretty dumb. I'm all for safety of any kind, but you can't intentionally slow down the game like that.

[Emperor Smeat]

Is the new rule just for the spotter ref since I thought a snap can't occur until he moves away from the scrimmage spot or else he would be blocking someone on the line?

[Requiem]

The new rule states that the snap can't occur until the spotting ref is in position behind the farthest offensive player. Basically forces the QB to take his eyes off the defense to see if he can snap the ball or not. Either look over his shoulder, or look to a sideline where a ref stands to give the signal.

It is all based on how fast the ref can get back there, and in the game against Green Bay, the ref took his fucking time a couple times. It isn't that he has to be out of the way.. it's that he has to be in a certain position a certain distance away now, which completely throws off the pace of the game. That 5 yard penalty for snapping half a second early can completely stop the game and throw off a team's momentum, especially in the redzone.

Within the 2 minute mark, he goes to the old spot like normal on the defensive side. At least, that's how I understand the rule. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Emperor Smeat]

Didn't realize the new rule now states a specific distance and spot since now it makes things more complicated than it should be. Before the ref just had to spot the ball and then be out of the line so as to not block anyone on either side.

I didn't watch the Colts-Packers preseason game so I never saw the problem Manning was having although if the spotter ref is too slow deliberately then it is his fault based on the new rule.

[RP]

Everyone is quick to chalk this up to Colts whining, but it's going to be increibly funny when someone is down 21 points trying make a rally in the 4th quarter and they lose about a minute or so of time because they ref takes forever to spot the ball. Hurry up offense is null and void basically. I'm not sure what the hell is gunna happen when a team has no timeouts and is trying to get in feild goal range and then spike the ball.

Cant wait!!!!

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

I think they will tweek the ref thing by the time the season starts. End of half/game situations are going to be ridiculous if they don't.

[Kris P Lettus]

Chris Ivory

[Supreme Olajuwon]

My high school is on ESPN right now. Looking good.

[Gonzo]

I think they will tweek the ref thing by the time the season starts. End of half/game situations are going to be ridiculous if they don't.

Yeah, I don't see how they can't tweak the rule. Maybe if the NFL adjusts the rule so that the ball can be snapped once the umpire has the ball down and starts backpedaling to his spot? To keep the rule as is would have to big of an impact on the integrity of the game in my opinion. If teams have to wait until the ump gets 10-15 yards behind the LOS, that's just stupid.

[Gonzo]

My high school is on ESPN right now. Looking good.

I tuned into a high school game last night on ESPN. It was two Texas teams though. Pretty good game. Had a lot of D-I guys on the field.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Yeah this one isn't as exciting because the team from Maryland didn't bring any fans and their bleachers are empty. And that's the side that gets on tv so it looks weak.

[CSL]

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Ah ha

[RP]

L O L

[Droford]

Didn't realize the new rule now states a specific distance and spot since now it makes things more complicated than it should be. Before the ref just had to spot the ball and then be out of the line so as to not block anyone on either side.

I didn't watch the Colts-Packers preseason game so I never saw the problem Manning was having although if the spotter ref is too slow deliberately then it is his fault based on the new rule.

I found it funny that the Ravens were able to effectively run the no huddle offense last night vs the Giants with no problem. Flacco was looking pretty awesome last night.

[Gonzo]

I found it funny that the Ravens were able to effectively run the no huddle offense last night vs the Giants with no problem. Flacco was looking pretty awesome last night.

Yeah, I hope he plays like that all year long.

Joe Flacco is my fantasy QB.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Can't imagine what it must be like to be in an area where high school football is actually a big deal. Connecticut certainly isn't a football hotbed. There are plenty of guys in this area that would have probably gotten offers from big-time programs if they lived in a more scouted area like New Jersey.

Although there IS this offensive lineman in the next town over (the rival team with my high school) who is entering his senior year and has already committed to Florida. Pretty ridiculous.</font>

[Droford]

I dont like FOX's new score graphic

[CSL]

lol Kyle Orton goes low, James Harrison goes lower.

[Kris P Lettus]

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[CSL]

Antonio Bryant was paid $46,511.63 per day for 172 days for doing some jogging. Not bad work if you can get it.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol @ Fox catering solely to HD users with the baseball and now the football. On any non-HD feed you can only see the score of the home team. Can't see the score of the road team, the time, or the down.</font>

[Skippord]

my boy Perrish Cox doing work

[RoXer]

<font color=goldenrod>lol @ Fox catering solely to HD users with the baseball and now the football. On any non-HD feed you can only see the score of the home team. Can't see the score of the road team, the time, or the down.</font>

Yeah they can. The new ticker shows up fine, just has black bars on the top and bottom of the screen like a movie. Was just watching it on one.

[Kris P Lettus]

Gonna add these to this thread just cause some peeps don't go into casual..

Me and Rex Ryan wearing his 2000 Ravens SB ring..

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7366/masonandrexryan001.jpg

Me and Ditka..

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8762/masonanddtka001.jpg

[Evil Vito]

Yeah they can. The new ticker shows up fine, just has black bars on the top and bottom of the screen like a movie. Was just watching it on one.

<font color=goldenrod>Oh really? I had heard a lot of bitching about it with SD TVs. Guess you can adjust the screen or aspect ratio or something.

I have a 32 inch HDTV so it doesn't matter anyway</font> :shifty:

[Kris P Lettus]

HDTV are dirt f'n cheap now so I really don't feel sorry for anyone with these problems.. I'd be like someone complaining that they stopped making VHS just because they haven't bought a DVD player..

[SammyG]

Big ups, Kris P, lookin like a champ.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'll get the Mike Singletary and Bobby Bowden ones up as soon as I get back to Louisiana..

[Requiem]

I have no problems whatsoever viewing HD on my non-HD TV. Shit formats to fit my screen, with bars on top and bottom.

[Nervous Ferret]

Forgot about Requiem the Colts fan

[Innovator]

That was the QB's fault, he should've given the ball to the fullback to begin with, horrible read.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>lol. Today rosters shrunk from 75 to 53. The Giants only actually CUT 1 guy, put 3 on IR and another on PUP.

Sorgi out for the year. Looks like Rhett Bomar's gonna be the backup. Really hope they can get a veteran QB though. Bomar looked okay all things considered but if Eli went down the season would be over.

Sinorice Moss also out for the year, his Giants career is likely over. Pretty much assures Victor Cruz survives Saturday's cuts (as if they could leave him off and expect to keep him on the practice squad anyway)</font>

[Kris P Lettus]

Singletary is a scary scary man..

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3808/msingletary.jpg

[IC Champion]

NFL is going to end up scrapping the umpire spot change.

[weather vane]

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If this video doesn't make you feel anything you don't love football... so unreal.

[DaveWadding]

Cardinals ink Darnell Dockett to 4 year/48 million extension with 30 mil guaranteed.

[Droford]

Flacco has thrown for 6,584 yards in his first two seasons, the fifth-highest total in league history. He's also led his team to back-to-back playoff appearances and three road playoff wins.

Its gonna be his breakout year.

[Team Sheep]

Channel 4 in the UK have just got the rights for Sunday Night Football. Awesome. At least we've got everything this year. :)

[RoXer]

Cardinals wearing their black alts tonight. Was hoping they'd save them for special occasions. Like 1or 2 times a year.

[RoXer]

Arizona Falcons

[CSL]

Channel 4 in the UK have just got the rights for Sunday Night Football. Awesome. At least we've got everything this year. :)

Legendary. First live game I saw on TV was the Broncos/Packers Superbowl on Channel 4.

[SammyG]

Sam Bradford has got me excited for Rams football.

[RP]

Sam Bradford has got me excited for Rams football.

his O-line will get him killed before the season is over.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Really hope a serviceable enough veteran quarterback gets released tomorrow. No way am I comfortable with Rhett Bomar as the backup. Granted Eli and Peyton came from Archie's titanium balls so they are always healthy enough to play if need be, but still.

I'd really love to have Jeff Garcia as the backup but he signed with the UFL and apparently unlike the CFL and AFL, in the UFL you aren't allowed to just leave if an NFL team offers you a contract.</font>

[Innovator]

Really hope a serviceable enough veteran quarterback gets released tomorrow. No way am I comfortable with Rhett Bomar as the backup. Granted Eli and Peyton came from Archie's titanium balls so they are always healthy enough to play if need be, but still.

I'd really love to have Jeff Garcia as the backup but he signed with the UFL and apparently unlike the CFL and AFL, in the UFL you aren't allowed to just leave if an NFL team offers you a contract.
How many wide open receivers did he overthrow last night? It was like watching Eli in college.

[Evil Vito]

How many wide open receivers did he overthrow last night? It was like watching Eli in college.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, it was horrible...especially against 3rd and 4th stringers. That being said, even if the Giants found a legit backup, Bomar would probably be grabbed off waivers...so I'd have to guess the Giants need to carry 3 QBs on the roster this year.</font>

[Requiem]

Tom Brandstater > Curtis Painter

[SammyG]

his O-line will get him killed before the season is over.
He's been fine during preseason, minus the first game. O-Line getting way better. Also, if we have a decent passing attack, defenses won't be able to stack 8 in the box to destroy Jackson. Dunno how Jackson always gets his crazy yards from scrimmage with defenses knowing he is the only significant weapon in the Rams offense. Says a lot about how much of a beast the dude is.

[DaveWadding]

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/images/admin/darnell_dockett.jpg

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/34543/dockett6.jpg

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Since I'm bored, I'm gonna try and guess the Giants' roster after tomorrow's cuts. Most of these guys are no-brainers, but there are still some interesting choices to make.

QB (2): Eli Manning, Rhett Bomar
RB (4): Ahmad Bradshaw, Brandon Jacobs, DJ Ware, Andre Brown
FB (1): Madison Hedgecock
WR (6): Steve Smith, Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham, Ramses Barden, Derek Hagan, Victor Cruz
TE (3): Kevin Boss, Travis Beckum, Bear Pascoe
OL (9): David Diehl, Rich Seubert, Shaun O’Hara, Chris Snee, Kareem McKenzie, Shawn Andrews, William Beatty, Mitch Petrus, Adam Koets
DE (5): Justin Tuck, Mathias Kiwanuka, Osi Umenyiora, Jason Pierre-Paul, Dave Tollefson
DT (5): Barry Cofield, Chris Canty, Linval Joseph, Rocky Bernard, Jay Alford
LB (7): Keith Bulluck, Michael Boley, Clint Sintim, Jonathan Goff, Phillip Dillard, Zak DeOssie, Gerris Wilkinson
CB (5): Corey Webster, Terrell Thomas, Aaron Ross, Bruce Johnson, DJ Johnson
S (4): Kenny Phillips, Antrel Rolle, Deon Grant, Michael Johnson
K (1): Lawrence Tynes
P (1): Matt Dodge

The main notable cuts are Guy Whimper, Bryan Kehl, and Chase Blackburn. I gotta think Blackburn would have made it if he hadn't gotten injured. That being said, if it turns out he'll be ready within 2-3 weeks he could still make the squad. But I'm gonna guess his injury is more serious than that, and Wilkinson had a good camp.

I'd say that Koets and Alford are the two guys next up on the chopping block if the Giants get a veteran backup QB. The Giants probably won't waive Bomar and risk losing him, so someone else will have to go.

I could also see a released CB from another team being brought in and replacing DJ Johnson.</font>

[DaveWadding]

Have fun with Antrel "I Fucking Suck at Playing Safety" Rolle. :y:

[OssMan]

He picked off Tom Brady yesterday so fu

[RoXer]

Probably because he accidenaly double covered someone from not being where he was supposed to be

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Giants trade for Sage Rosenfels

Good. Not anything spectacular but much better than Bomar.</font>

[CSL]

At least he won't rocket balls a mile over an open receivers head should he have to play.

[Innovator]

For Skins fans, get ready for balls a mile in front of the open receiver

[Gonzo]

I guess it's nice to have some piece of mind that there is someone with experience behind Manning.

I hope it never comes to that though.

[Kris P Lettus]

Sharper is prolly starting the season on the PUP list..

:(

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Apparently Darius Reynaud is also coming over in the deal. He was the Vikings' main punt returner last year.

The fact that he does returns immediately makes me wanna pencil him in for the roster. Still, that would mean 5 RBs on the roster...really hope they don't try to slip Andre Brown to the practice squad, I'd hate to see him get claimed.</font>

[Evil Vito]

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<font color=goldenrod>I already like Reynaud.</font>

[Gonzo]

Apparently Darius Reynaud is also coming over in the deal. He was the Vikings' main punt returner last year.

The fact that he does returns immediately makes me wanna pencil him in for the roster. Still, that would mean 5 RBs on the roster...really hope they don't try to slip Andre Brown to the practice squad, I'd hate to see him get claimed.

He is wearing #82, isn't he a WR?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Converted wideout, apparently.

Kinda have a feeling he may take Cruz' roster spot. I hope not but then again Carl Banks has gone off every game about how Cruz makes the catches but never contributes in special teams where he'll actually be used.

Ware could also be gone.</font>

[Innovator]

Ware never really impressed me tbh

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Bear Pascoe got cut, leaving the Giants with only 2 TEs (one of which is not as real TE in Travis Beckum)

Definitely gonna be picking someone up off of waivers. Pascoe had a great name</font> :(

[Droford]

Ravens cut Shayne Graham and traded Antwan Barnes to the Eagles for a 2011 draft pick

[Droford]

Leinart's getting released

how long before he's a Seahawk?

[DaveWadding]

LOLeinart.

[RoXer]

Ughhh

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Jay Alford cut. Pretty surprising. The first from the 2007 draft class to be cut.

At least I'll always remember him for this:</font>

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo348/Too81mer/op85-3104.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

Leinart's getting released

how long before he's a Seahawk?

He made the mistake of trashing the starting QB of the team and then the coach. Blamed the coach for hating him because of off-field reasons (aka him being a celebrity) instead of him realizing he is a mediocre NFL QB in abilities.

Arizona wanted to at least trade him to get something of value back but he decided on Monday to "trash" the team to the press.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Andre Brown cut, DJ Ware stays.

Fuckkkkkk. Really hope Brown makes it to the practice squad.</font>

[Innovator]

DAMMIT, AND DAMMIT

I liked Jay Alford

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I still think the roster will be tweaked slightly before next week, namely getting another TE. Beckum is always hurt and isn't really a TE anyway.</font>

[Droford]

Troy Smith is gone from the Ravens too.

2 former Heisman winners cut on the same day. Pretty sure the credibility of the Heisman has taken a nosedive over the last couple of years in terms of NFL potential.

Im gonna call it the curse of Barry Sanders.

[Requiem]

wtf at cutting Brandstater and sticking with Painter. Don't get what good the preseason was at all. Like, they got a look at him.. he did better than a player who had been with the team for 1 year. They kept talking about how Painter had the experience of already 'being in the know' of how things worked on the team, but he put up a mediocre performance in pre-season for being so knowing.

I get the whole 'sticking to your guns' thing, and not wanting it to look like they dropped him just because of the situation he was put in last season, but come on. He's only been with the team for 1 season, so there shouldn't be any sort of undying feelings of loyalty to him.

[Kris P Lettus]

Fuck, Sharper is def on the PUP (with LB Clint Imgram) but Jonathon Cassillas, who had been a BEAST this preseason replacing Fajita at OLB is now on IR..

FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

[Reavant]

what are you gunna do when brees gets hurt?

[Kris P Lettus]

I'm going to murder your face, that's what..

[Team Sheep]

Tony Richardson gone. Fuck :(

[SammyG]

MAKE ROOM FOR THE TERMINATOR

[DaveWadding]

Revis/Jets agree to deal in principle according to Adam Schefter on Twitter.

[CSL]

From Revis' Twitter:

it not has only been hard on u guys but it has for me too. I just want to tell yall that I'm sorry for this process and I can't wait to get back on the field.

Hopefully it'll make it into Hard Knocks.

[CSL]

Houshmandzadah signing with the Ravens.

[Team Sheep]

:drool:

[road doggy dogg]

SUH = MVP
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[Kris P Lettus]

RAMS = SUCK

[road doggy dogg]

With Avery out their offense is going to be probably worse than the Bills. Gross.
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[Nervous Ferret]

REVIS

[SammyG]

Donnie Avery hasn't really ever done shit for us anyway, not that big of a hit. Just landed Mark Clayton. Laurent Robinson and Brandon Gibson are gonna turn some heads this year. I feel good about this season.

[road doggy dogg]

How can you feel good about Laurent Robinson, Brandon Gibson, and Mark Clayton? How can anyone feel good about that?
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