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Old 08-28-2009, 04:27 AM   #1
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Smackdown is better than Raw
There. I said it

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Old 08-28-2009, 04:33 AM   #2
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:39 AM   #3
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I'm watching Smackdown right now, and the first 20 minutes are already better than anything I've seen on Raw in almost a year.
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Smackdown has been better than Raw in every way ever since the draft.

I used to be able to sit and watch Raw and at least find parts of it entertaining, but lately SD has been so good that I really only watch Raw now out of habit.
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Smackdown has been better than Raw in every way ever since the draft.

I used to be able to sit and watch Raw and at least find parts of it entertaining, but lately SD has been so good that I really only watch Raw now out of habit.
You took the words right out of my mouth keyboard.

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Raw had some high points in 2008 though.
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SD! is always > RAW
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TNA > RAW (shoot)
At this point, I don't doubt that at all.
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TNA > RAW (shoot)
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:51 AM   #10
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TNA is awful btw.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:53 AM   #11
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I will never understand why some people still prefer to watch Raw.
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Old 08-28-2009, 09:19 AM   #12
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I will never understand why some people still prefer to watch Raw.
It is on Mondays and people are home on Monday nights. Smackdown is on fridays at prime going out time.
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I would agree with this statement had it been made almost 2 years ago but now I tend to disagree. The problem with RAW is that they have the better roster but we seem to get more of the same week to week. SD roster may not be as deep but I find I can get into the matches more since they do not focus on storylines so much. So if anything i'd say the shows are about on the same level and ECW was showing signs of improvement but that really didn't last for long.
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Who still prefers to? If they like seeing the same old dx jokes/big dick johnson, then there's something wrong with them.
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Millions of people.
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Millions of people.
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Cause it's A)got the stars (wrestling doesn't draw [sadface goes here]) and B)it's on Mondays. Big day for TV.
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Cause it's A)got the stars (wrestling doesn't draw [sadface goes here]) and B)it's on Mondays. Big day for TV.
I really wish real wrestling fans wouldn't fall for this.

I agree that WWE as a whole, isn't as great as it used to be, but Smackdown is fucking unbelievable right now and has been for a few months now.

and I agree destor, ever since the brand split in 2002, SD has almost always been better.
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Ok, A million people.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:58 AM   #20
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Micheal Hayes should get an award.
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:06 AM   #21
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YES. The "best damn racist evah" award.

...I kid I kid, cheap shot I know. Yeah, Hayes has done A LOT of good for SD!
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:24 AM   #22
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1. Smackdown
2. iMPACT
3. RAW

Never catch ECW and Superstars isn't broadcast over here.

Agreed though, watching Smackdown and thinking 'wow this is actually great, great storylines, great matches and a great roster' is something I haven't done since like 2003, and back then it didn't seem so great 'cos the Attitude Era was a much more recent memory.
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Old 08-28-2009, 07:43 AM   #23
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I have to agree that Smackdown > Impact > ECW > Raw

Raw has turned into an entertainment show that happens to sometimes have wrestling on it.

RAW/SMACKDOWN is really starting to go like the old WWF/NWA stuff.

NWA: We do wrestling

Hence why all us ‘smarter’ fans prefer it, but it doesn’t bring in the big ratings, as Raw has more of a cross over appeal and we will all watch anything, because we are sheep
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They need to bring rejuvenate the Smackdown versus Raw rivalry.
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Smackdown is the new flagship of the WWE
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Clearly it’s not,

Raw is getting almost double the viewing figures, however, it does have the advantage of having a much bigger market to project to, why USA never tried to get Smackdown was confusing to me, as I always thought it was a big ratings winner for them, so cross-promoting with Smackdown on a Friday would have been in everyone’s interest, IMO
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Clearly it’s not,

Raw is getting almost double the viewing figures, however, it does have the advantage of having a much bigger market to project to, why USA never tried to get Smackdown was confusing to me, as I always thought it was a big ratings winner for them, so cross-promoting with Smackdown on a Friday would have been in everyone’s interest, IMO

My statement was from a fan's standpoint. Clearly SD is the superior show compared to WWE's "flagship" RAW. I know Raw draws more of an audience b/c if USA being one of the top cable channels and the fact it airs on Monday nights. The only thing IMO that really hurts SD ratings and audience is b/c the fact it airs on Fridays. I am the only person in my circle of friends who will sit at home on a friday night and watch wrestling.
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That has been my opinion for the past 2 years at least
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Definitely agree. I find now that I will make more of an effort to watch SD! on TV than online even (not sure why that makes a difference to me). And I only really watch Raw out of habit anymore.
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Clearly it’s not,

Raw is getting almost double the viewing figures, however, it does have the advantage of having a much bigger market to project to, why USA never tried to get Smackdown was confusing to me, as I always thought it was a big ratings winner for them, so cross-promoting with Smackdown on a Friday would have been in everyone’s interest, IMO
Smackdown used to be on networks with strong saturation and drew about the same for the last couple years of that affiliation. They had a larger coverage than USA, both on Thursday and Friday.

The point of Smackdown was specifically to have a network presence, so USA wouldn't fill that purpose. Then again, their current network isn't doing the job either, but that hasn't really done much to impact things either.

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My statement was from a fan's standpoint. Clearly SD is the superior show compared to WWE's "flagship" RAW. I know Raw draws more of an audience b/c if USA being one of the top cable channels and the fact it airs on Monday nights. The only thing IMO that really hurts SD ratings and audience is b/c the fact it airs on Fridays. I am the only person in my circle of friends who will sit at home on a friday night and watch wrestling.
Thing is, the fans tend to watch Raw, so Youell's right, from a fan's perspective. Fans may not care about ratings, but the ratings are based on the number of fans.
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I agree Raw sucks. I agree Smackdown is better, but I watch Raw and do not watch Smackdown for the following reasons:

1) Smackdown is on Friday's. I am always doing something

2) I don't have a love for wrestling anymore where I will download shows or watch things online. Wrestling is just another show to me now. I am home Mondays. I watch Raw.

3) I hate the fact that Smackdown is taped. Kind of kills it a bit for me. I usually just read the spoilers here and that's that.
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2. I don't have a love for wrestling anymore where I will download shows or watch things online. Wrestling is just another show to me now. I am home Mondays. I watch Raw.[/QUOTE]

I think that's a big reason a lot of us aren't happy with wrestling anymore and would rather talk about it than actually watch it...

Hulk Hogan, Pipper (Warrior I guess) Hart, Michaels, Rock, Austin ....Hogan/Austin era's are over and that's what we loved. Not only those wrestlers but the mid-card and writers and style they brought with it. Now kids are all into this "U Can't Ce Me Yo"... kids who abbreviated words that shouldn't be abbriviated and are dumb too shit, and actually feel as passionate for Cena and the new era and everything that comes with it.

sure the old shit would seem kick ass to them cause it was better, but I’m sure they see a degree of corniness in it they don't see in the current product (but we see it, they just think its cool) likely do to cause of difference in mind set... a lot of us on this board have been watching for at least 20+ years, times have changed, our children are dumbed down...

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I don't feel stupider after watching SmackDown!. Everything is rather quite enjoyable over there. Even their attempts at comedy don't suck at your soul. The Cryme Tyme segments with Slam Master J A-K-A(!) Jeezy have been quite good.
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I could move to New Zealand?

By the way, Australia gets SmackDown! a day before the United States, which is pretty cool. I didn't catch it's original showing this week, though. I'll have to catch the reply tomorrow.
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