WWE needs a face faction

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Originally Posted by Jeritron I'm pretty sure the point she was making was that most successful stables started out as heel factions. ABT supplemented that with the point that the very notion of a stable/faction implies semi-heel behavior. It's gang mentality and usually serves to give wrestlers an edge by having a crew. So what is really the problem with those points? I agree with both, tbh. If it's so untrue, I'd like to see a list of notable stables that started out as faces. Citing that nWo and DX were huge face factions is irrelevant. A total red herring. They started out as heel groups and functioned as such for some time. Just because they got super popular and sold merch, doesn't change that. That's because they were cool heels. That's like saying Stone Cold and The Rock didn't get over as heels because they ended up turning face in the same gimmick and selling lots of shirts. Has nothing to do with the topic at hand. They were heels when they started. Fact not opinion. And I don't know why singles careers got dragged into the pot. But, I'm still drawing a blank on stables that started out as face factions. I'm sure there have to be a few, but I certainly can't think of any very successful ones at the moment.

I didn't dispute that they started out as heels. The only point I made was that they made money as faces, which is all that mattered. Making whether they start as heels or not redundant. If the story had called for them to start out as faces, they'd have been equally as successful. The success is down to the timing, the writing and most importantly, the performers. The notion that being heel is some kind of pre-requisite for success on other levels is what the discussion turned into. Which, as you pointed out, is also redundant.