WWE needs a face faction

[CSL]

Originally Posted by Lara Emily Did you read what I said? Rock was a fucking joke in his inital face run his big break came as a cool heel. Orton was low midcard until he turned heel, Cena was low mid card until he turned heel, Edge was heel very shortly after he debuted and his first major run as a main evener was as a heel. I was just pointing out that for a lot of guys being heel was where they really started to get over. As for stables there have been two face stables in the past hmm 15 years or so The Union which was created directly from a heel table and the Filthy Animals

Originally Posted by Lara Emily HHH got over in DX as a heel (and yes he was booed), Austin won KOTR and gave birth to Austin 3:16 as a heel, when I said got their break I mean just that the moment they started truly getting over. BTW with Cena you are highlting my exact point, one of the best ways to eventually become a massively over face is to break into the main event scene as a cool heel. Are you purposely being an idiot or something?

You ask me if I'm purposely being an idiot two sentences after explaining yourself, so you clearly realize that you weren't being very clear with what you were on about. So are you purposely being a bit of a twat or ?

And I still can't believe you are still banging on about the singles guys. Have you read anything I've posted on this 2nd page? My god.

[Lara Emily]

Originally Posted by CSL You ask me if I'm purposely being an idiot two sentences after explaining yourself, so you clearly realize that you weren't being very clear with what you were on about. So are you purposely being a bit of a twat or ? And I still can't believe you are still banging on about the singles guys. Have you read anything I've posted on this 2nd page? My god.

Dude you're the one who misinterpreted what I meant by big break. I didn't explain myself I reiterated myself in response to our stupid assumption that some how big break = debut, I purposely stated big break because I knew guys such as the Rock actually debuted as faces.You're the only one who read it as debut.

I did read what you said on page 2 means shit, massively over faces who gpt over big time by soley being a face are rare and usually get that by way of the monster push IE: Goldberg Hogan, Warrior

I never claimed all Big faces went the get over as a heel first route I just pointed out that history reflects that a lot (maybe even most) of them did. There's a reason for that too, major success stories are performers who the fans chose, who the fans wanted to like, it's much easier to start off being hated and get people to like you by just doing your thing, then to be forced into a babyface role and basically demand people like you (IE Rocky Maivia). To be frank it was an observation I shouldn't have made as it derailed the thread clearly. End of story is no major Face faction in recent history has been massively successful without starting off as heels, if you want to argue against that you are arguing against reality.