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Old 02-02-2013, 10:38 PM   #121
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Man, I think Bret is just one of those guys you're at a big party with. And you're just wondering, "Is Bret gonna do it again?" You're having a good time, and everything's going well. Just when you think everything is going to end well, Bret just starts randomly ripping into people out of the blue, and everyone gives you the look, as if to say, "Yeah, thanks for bringing the hit man, you jerk, now the whole party is ruined."
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:46 AM   #122
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Guys remember Bret had a stroke. So, he probably just forgot all of the good matches HHH had.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:08 AM   #123
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Guys remember Bret had a stroke. So, he probably just forgot all of the good matches HHH had.
He's clearly bitter about them, so how could he forget them?
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:09 AM   #124
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Guys remember Bret had a stroke. So, he probably just forgot all of the good matches HHH had.
All 3 of them??
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:12 AM   #125
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:19 AM   #126
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Not even in the top 1000?

Wow, Bret Hart is a douche bag.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:38 AM   #127
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Now that I'm back into wrestling and a lot older and wiser, I've had loads of things happen to me that are far worse than the pretend bad thing that happened at the Montreal Screwjob. Get over it you wanker.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:56 AM   #128
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It's a work?
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:03 AM   #129
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A guy I know thinks it is. To try and build up some sort of doubt in people's minds about Triple H being good enough to beat Lesnar.

Even though the people that will read it and put so much stock in what he's saying already know that, should the match come to fruition, Triple H will go over.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:13 AM   #130
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I agree somewhat with Bret. The Hitman is awesome and I'll have no-one of you guys pooping on him, stop that! Bret is a living legend that overcame his Canadian-ness to become the third greatest rassler of all time. HHH was good but not great.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:37 PM   #131
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It's a work?
It's always a work.

Although seriously, you'd expect wrestling fans to understand hyperbole.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:15 PM   #132
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I agree that HHH isn't great, but not having a great match is obviously wrong. How many non-gimmick great matches does HHH have though? That might be a better thing to say? Either way who cares a great match is a great match...

Still I love it when Bret Hart rips people. I hope he never stops doing it.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:32 PM   #133
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I love how 4-5 years ago I ripped into Bret Hart here for being an over-rated, boring blow hard who is full of shit and I got called "a troll"......and now you all agree with me.

Remember that next time you say I'm trolling. Chances are you're just blinded by your smarky fatness.

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Old 02-03-2013, 03:56 PM   #134
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Like I said elsewhere.

"Bruno Sammartino has also said that Stone Cold wasn't a draw. I would take the words of old timers with a grain of salt."

Honestly, I wouldn't doubt many of the old timers having severe CTE.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:07 PM   #135
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I love how 4-5 years ago I ripped into Bret Hart here for being an over-rated, boring blow hard who is full of shit and I got called "a troll"......and now you all agree with me.

Remember that next time you say I'm trolling. Chances are you're just blinded by your smarky fatness.

Signed: Gertner "the pulse of the WWE"
I don't agree with you. Bret Hart is awesome dude. Also, if yore the pulse, then I am the brain of Shisen Kopf presents TPWW. That's actually the full name of this site FYI.
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1. Has hhh responded?
Would you respond to a bitter old man talking smack on you in interviews?
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Old 02-03-2013, 06:07 PM   #139
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I love how 4-5 years ago I ripped into Bret Hart here for being an over-rated, boring blow hard who is full of shit and I got called "a troll"......and now you all agree with me.

Remember that next time you say I'm trolling. Chances are you're just blinded by your smarky fatness.

Signed: Gertner "the pulse of the WWE"
Gertie, you should know by now that the smark is a herd animal driven by the most fickle of its kind. They can't even decide how the feel about John Cena, who should be like the smark antichrist, because that would require decisiveness.

Since it is now trendy to like Triple H again, they fear agreeing with Bret due to the internal strife it would cause in the herd. This mentality lobbed against someone they currently did not like would probably be met with praise, as Bret Hart's more of a neutral figure in the smark psyche.
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Hate the way Bret just brings up Montreal without even being asked about it. What a dick.
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Gertie, you should know by now that the smark is a herd animal driven by the most fickle of its kind. They can't even decide how the feel about John Cena, who should be like the smark antichrist, because that would require decisiveness.

Since it is now trendy to like Triple H again, they fear agreeing with Bret due to the internal strife it would cause in the herd. This mentality lobbed against someone they currently did not like would probably be met with praise, as Bret Hart's more of a neutral figure in the smark psyche.
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1. Has hhh responded?
When months and months pass and you don't see Bret on WWE tv, you will know Triple H responded.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:49 PM   #143
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Like I said elsewhere.

"Bruno Sammartino has also said that Stone Cold wasn't a draw. I would take the words of old timers with a grain of salt."

Honestly, I wouldn't doubt many of the old timers having severe CTE.
Difference though is that Bruno made a jackass remark based on ignorance of the way the business works now vs the way it worked in his time. At least you could look at that remark and say he's stuck in a different era. Very common for old guys.

Bret is saying something that, while an opinion, is completely retarded and something the majority of reasonable people would call into question ("never had a great match" and "not in the top 1000.) The only thing that can explain that away is a hyperbole fail or the stroke.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:08 PM   #144
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which goes back to my last sentence. Bret's brain is likely fried. Not unlike Iron Shiek, Roddy Piper, Hulk Hogan, or any other goofy delusional old timer.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:23 PM   #145
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HHH has a front office job, and is set for life.

He doesn't need to respond.
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HHH has a front office job, and is set for life.

He doesn't need to respond.
Now that you mention it, I wonder if Bret is just jealous of Triple H, because he's so close to Vince.

I know Bret has said he always saw Vince as some sort of father-figure, maybe he just longs for Vince's affection, and when he sees Triple H getting it, he just can't stand it
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:03 AM   #147
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HHH has a front office job, and is set for life.

He doesn't need to respond.
He'll probably do so anyway, though.
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He'll probably come out during a commercial break and Pedigree footage of the interview. That's what he normally does now, right?
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ear-wwe-career

I don't know how credible this is going to be as I don't know much about the bleacherreport but I plan on watching these 25 matches and making my own assumption.

I'm on the fence with all this. Bret, the wrestler, has a right to his opinion. Bret, the fan, really doesn't have a leg to stand on. a lot of the match types that HHH has been a part of came well after Bret left ......We will see where I stand after this endeavour.
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Arda Ocal asked him if he ever gets tired of talking about "The Montreal Screwjob", and Bret basically answered "No" LOL.

But we already knew that.
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Busted Open Radio recently spoke with Chris Jericho to discuss Bret Hart’s comments towards Triple H. Here are some highlights.

Jericho on Bret Hart’s comments on HHH: “It was funny because when I saw that comment that Bret had said, I was kind of surprised because I think that Triple H has had a lot of great matches, dozens of great matches. I could think of two or three that I was in with him myself, so, maybe, I don’t know why Bret would say that, maybe it’s still a little bit personal or some bad vibes or taste in his mouth from what happened years ago. But I’ll tell you face to face that Triple H has had many great matches and I always enjoyed watching him work, even up to the match he had with Lesnar. I don’t know if that was a great match, it was definitely a very good one, so I would definitely never ever bury Triple H’s wrestling talent for sure I think he’s one of the best we’ve ever seen.I

What benefit does it have for Bret Hart to make those comments? “He’s saying it just because, old, old, old wounds die hard, or whatever the cliché is. You know, I’m sure Bret has made his peace with Shawn over the Montreal Screw Job; maybe he still has some lingering issues with Triple H as part of that. I don’t know, cuz I think Bret is very much one of my favorites of all time, one of my top two or three as a matter of fact, but maybe there’s a little bit of bias in this or something like that for him to say that Triple H has had no great matches. Cuz I don’t think anybody could ever say that he’s had no great matches. You might say “well this guy’s a jerk” or “I don’t like him personally” or “backstage I don’t like him” or “politically I don’t like him”, but there’s one thing you can never doubt with Triple H and that’s his wrestling ability, especially as a main event performer, like you said earlier, in the early 2000′s as the top heel in the company, I think you could throw any baby face’s name out there and you could probably match up a quote unquote great match that he had with that person, for sure.

“Triple H may be a little bit underrated as far as the amount of flak that he takes over the years, but, as a performer, I’ll tell you straight up he was definitely one of the best, from that era and even up until last year. The match he had with Undertaker, the match he had with Undertaker the year before, both Wrestlemania matches, were both amazing matches. Maybe not the same levels as the ones Shawn had with him but definitely in the exact same ballpark. Triple H is just one of those guys, he’s got it, he always has had it, he’s a great ring general, he’s very smart in the psychology of putting together his matches, believable when he works, so definitely definitely definitely. Like I said, I could give you 3 matches that I had with him, personally that I thought were great. The Last Man Standing that we had in Dallas, the title match we had at State College where I won the title, and then the tag match with me and Benoit versus Triple H and Austin. All of them were what I would consider to be some of my best performances, some of my best matches that I ever had for sure.”

Outside your matches with him, what do you think was his best match ever? Y2J – It’s hard to say cuz there’s just so many eras, like you said, I would have thought of the Three Stages of Hell with Austin, was a great one. I think he had a 60 minute Iron Man Match that’s forgotten against The Rock where Shawn was the referee, that was great. I think the 3-way with Benoit and Shawn at Wrestlemania, whatever it was, was amazing. And I think the ones he had with Undertaker, both of those were great. But that’s the thing, when you get a guy who’s had as many great matches as he has, it’s hard to just say here’s one or here’s two, you know. There’s just so many. There’s this one there’s that one there’s this one and that one, I mean the Batista Wrestlemania match was great as well. That’s what makes a great worker, not just a short burst, but longevity of a career, 10-15 years of having great matches with a whole variety of different opponents and whole variety of styles. You know, that’s what makes a great worker to me.”
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:05 PM   #153
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How many times did HHH wrestle Austin on PPV?
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:12 PM   #154
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How many times did HHH wrestle Austin on PPV?
October 20, 1996 – Buried Alive: Steve Austin defeated Hunter Hearst-Helmsley.

February 15, 1998 – No Way Out: Steve Austin/Owen Hart/Cactus Jack/Chainsaw Charlie beat HHH/New Age Outlaws/Savio Vega.

May 16, 1999 – No Mercy UK: Steve Austin beat The Undertaker and Triple H in an “anything goes triangle” match to retain.

Summerslam 1999: Mankind defeated Steve Austin (Champion) & Triple H to win the WWF title!

October 17, 1999 – No Mercy: Triple H defeated Steve Austin in an “anything goes” match to retain the WWF title. (AWESOME MATCH!!)

November 19, 2000 – Survivor Series: Triple H vs Steve Austin went to a NO CONTEST in a “No-DQ” match..

December 10, 2000 – Armageddon: Kurt Angle beat Rock, Austin, Rikishi, HHH, & Taker in a Hell in a Cell match!

February 25, 2001 – No Way Out: Triple H beat Steve Austin in a 3-match-series grudge match..
  • 1) SCSA beat HHH in a regular match
  • 2) HHH beat SCSA in a “street fight”
  • 3) HHH beat SCSA in a “cage” match.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:50 PM   #156
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Surprised they didn't have more, if I can remember right Austin/Rock had quite a bit and HHH/Rock had quite a bit.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:37 PM   #157
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Here's something I was considering: how many of these "great" HHH matches have been with guys that are universally considered "great" (Austin, Rock, Taker, Shawn) or guys that Bret would consider better than HHH (Jericho, Benoit).

One of the most often used compliments in wrestling is "He can have a great match with a [insert inanimate object here]", maybe Bret is coming at it from that angle? Like, "When has HHH had a great match with someone that wasn't one of the all time greats/superior in-ring talents?" type deal.

Dunno. Just a thought.
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Old 02-05-2013, 04:40 PM   #158
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I would hardly consider Rock one of those guys.
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Then again, I think HHH's matches against Rock are a little overrated.
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HHH had more great matches than Kane
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