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Old 04-15-2008, 11:07 AM   #1
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Have the made a big deal about Punk's mitb?
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:39 AM   #2
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Not that I've seen. Then again I don't watch ECW with regularity. Taker is on it tonight, so maybe I'll actually watch.

I don't mean this as a flame, because I'm really trying to like CM Punk. I feel like I'm missing out because everyone loves him so damn much - but for the life of me I can NOT figure out what everyone's hardon is for this guy. He looks like death, he's not that great of a wrestler, and his mic skills are not stellar. Every Punk match I watch looks the exact same - save a kick here and there. He's a white-meat babyface with crappy emo theme music, and I just can't wrap my head around why he's so adored by the 'E and on this board.

So please - give me a reason to like Cookie Monster. I'm seriously looking for one.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:40 AM   #3
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No, although they keep implying Punk is going to use it on the ECW title which obviously means that he won't.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:41 AM   #4
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Not that I've seen. Then again I don't watch ECW with regularity. Taker is on it tonight, so maybe I'll actually watch.

I don't mean this as a flame, because I'm really trying to like CM Punk. I feel like I'm missing out because everyone loves him so damn much - but for the life of me I can NOT figure out what everyone's hardon is for this guy. He looks like death, he's not that great of a wrestler, and his mic skills are not stellar. Every Punk match I watch looks the exact same - save a kick here and there. He's a white-meat babyface with crappy emo theme music, and I just can't wrap my head around why he's so adored by the 'E and on this board.

So please - give me a reason to like Cookie Monster. I'm seriously looking for one.
*waits for the weekly Pro-Punk vs. Anti-Punk war to start*
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:43 AM   #5
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:47 AM   #6
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*waits for the weekly Pro-Punk vs. Anti-Punk war to start*
I'm actually not trying to start up the weekly war like that Dame fella. It's not that I despise Punk, I just can't find a reason to like him. Help me out.
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I'm actually not trying to start up the weekly war like that Dame fella. It's not that I despise Punk, I just can't find a reason to like him. Help me out.
Well whenever anyone says something negative about an IWC golden child (Jericho, Punk, etc) it always ends up becoming some heated debate that never goes anywhere.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:15 PM   #8
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Most of us who like Punk got into him before WWE
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:35 PM   #9
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PS, I neither hate nor like Punk. I just am wondering about his mitb because it already seems like it has been moved to the back burner just like Stiener's feast or fired case.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:42 PM   #10
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crappy emo theme music
THATS the only part I take issue with

Killswitch Engage is hardly crappy emo.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:45 PM   #11
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I mean were only 2 weeks removed from the MiTB match itself, so I still have high hopes for Punk with it. Its going to be a really slow build I think. Starting in KoTR where he either wins it or has a great match with someone like HBK and loses. Then I think he needs to have a high fued, meaning not opening PPV's. I was going to say with Jericho for Backlash but they decided to put Jericho in with HBK/Bats.

So to answer the question at hand, I don't think they have made a big deal about it yet, but they will in the coming months as he keeps getting more built up.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:45 PM   #12
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Punk is still overrated. But I don't hate him or nothing, just over rated.
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I'm actually not trying to start up the weekly war like that Dame fella. It's not that I despise Punk, I just can't find a reason to like him. Help me out.
As I said to BDC:

I shouldn't say he sucks, because he's okay. But for someone who's been in the business for like 15 years, and fellated by the IWC, I expected more.

I mean, yeah. Thanks to youtube, I'd seen a shitload of his stuff before he ever debuted in WWE, and was never impressed. Not to mention downloading vids on Soulseek.
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Oh, please; let's not.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:14 PM   #19
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Not that I've seen. Then again I don't watch ECW with regularity. Taker is on it tonight, so maybe I'll actually watch.

I don't mean this as a flame, because I'm really trying to like CM Punk. I feel like I'm missing out because everyone loves him so damn much - but for the life of me I can NOT figure out what everyone's hardon is for this guy. He looks like death, he's not that great of a wrestler, and his mic skills are not stellar. Every Punk match I watch looks the exact same - save a kick here and there. He's a white-meat babyface with crappy emo theme music, and I just can't wrap my head around why he's so adored by the 'E and on this board.

So please - give me a reason to like Cookie Monster. I'm seriously looking for one.

I dont get it either.
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:15 PM   #20
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Punk is on ECW.

Nothing on ECW is important in the WWE. So WWE won't be making a big deal out of Punk's MITB until he moves to another roster.
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I think his mic skills are a lot better than we have seen in WWE. Alot of his ROH stuff was hilarious. Plus the straight edge gimmick is more of a heel character anyways, and I think he is better at doing that.
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Actually i think CM Punk sucks balls. How he couldnt keep Maria happy is beyond me. If i was sexxing Maria, i'd come out doing promo's with her vagina on my face.
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I think his mic skills are a lot better than we have seen in WWE. Alot of his ROH stuff was hilarious. Plus the straight edge gimmick is more of a heel character anyways, and I think he is better at doing that.
Comedy is like the easiest possible thing to do in wrestling. Especially if you're a "funny" heel. And Hell, with the way people laugh over Marella mispronouncing words, it's fairly clear that we're not looking at highbrow comedy. Sorry.

There are tons of people who are "hilarious," and pretty much every wrestler who's appeared outside of wrestling does comedy because laughs are easier than serious drama.
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THATS the only part I take issue with

Killswitch Engage is hardly crappy emo.
Agreed. Killswitch isn't anywhere near emo...it has a lot more attitude...plus the lead singer isn't 16yrs old (like every other emo band).
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THATS the only part I take issue with

Killswitch Engage is hardly crappy emo.
You're right, it's hardly. It's not crappy emo enough. HE NEEDS CRAPPIER AND EMO-ER MUSIC.
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Agreed. Killswitch isn't anywhere near emo...it has a lot more attitude...plus the lead singer isn't 16yrs old (like every other emo band).
Too bad Punk's theme really makes him sound like a whiny juvenile pussy.
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Comedy is like the easiest possible thing to do in wrestling. Especially if you're a "funny" heel. And Hell, with the way people laugh over Marella mispronouncing words, it's fairly clear that we're not looking at highbrow comedy. Sorry.

There are tons of people who are "hilarious," and pretty much every wrestler who's appeared outside of wrestling does comedy because laughs are easier than serious drama.
Santino Marella is a comedy genius. Don't be hating on the man because you be jealous.

Also, while I personally find comedic acting easier than dramatic acting, a lot of people will tell you that the former is much harder. And don't even get started on stand-up. That is an extremely difficult craft to master.
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KIllswitch is a pretty Fucking hardcore metal band.....I dont know what you guys are talking about.

I dont like him, but I do like Killswitch.
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Also, I think it's a bad idea they go all-out with the MITB winner straight away. They can't let it go to the point TNA has with Scott Steiner, but there needs to be build for Punk. He could come out of nowhere and be a refreshing change when things get stale, with that title shot. No reason to necessarily shove him in with everything already stale.

Also, I can't be sure, but didn't Scott Steiner win both a TNA World Heavyweight Title shot and a TNA X-Division Title shot? Whatever happened to the X-Division one?
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Yeah, the man gets paid thousands of dollars to goof around on television. Even if you didn't admire the guy's talent, you'd be envious of him. That you deny it so strongly? Well...
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Comedy is actaully harder than drama. If you don't have comedic timing, then you aren't going to be funny. Still that being said, CM Punk is decent at being a wrestling, but the IWC tends to overrate people like CM Punk, or claim people are vastly underrated like Arn Anderson when Arn is treated about right. Just examples.
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Also, I think it's a bad idea they go all-out with the MITB winner straight away. They can't let it go to the point TNA has with Scott Steiner, but there needs to be build for Punk. He could come out of nowhere and be a refreshing change when things get stale, with that title shot. No reason to necessarily shove him in with everything already stale.

Also, I can't be sure, but didn't Scott Steiner win both a TNA World Heavyweight Title shot and a TNA X-Division Title shot? Whatever happened to the X-Division one?
Well Scott Steiner can comman and deman his shots as he pleases. I think he might be giving his X-Division shot to Petey Williams?
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Yeah, I think he gave or is giving it to Big Petey Pump.
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Comedy is actaully harder than drama. If you don't have comedic timing, then you aren't going to be funny. Still that being said, CM Punk is decent at being a wrestling, but the IWC tends to overrate people like CM Punk, or claim people are vastly underrated like Arn Anderson when Arn is treated about right. Just examples.
That's actually fairly accurate. However, I think overrated and underrated are in the eyes of the beholder.
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Well Scott Steiner can comman and deman his shots as he pleases. I think he might be giving his X-Division shot to Petey Williams?
I was thinking they might do that. My thanks to you and BDC.

My concern with that, though, is that it makes the TNA X-Division Title look sort of less prestigious by having a guy say "look, I don't want a shot at it." I mean, Petey would do much better with the shot, but it is sort of dismissive to the X-Division Title. What would the point of having Steiner win the shot in the first place be anyway?

Of course, so did having the X-Division Champion admit he couldn't afford a hotel and having to sneak in to use the hot tub.

Yeah, I'm analysing the logic of TNA. Stupid mistake.
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If I was going to be jealous, I'd set my aims a little higher than Marella. I know that you claim that being stupid is just, like, a gimmick, but this is dumb even for your usual gimmick posts.

Hence,
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There are tons of people who are "hilarious," and pretty much every wrestler who's appeared outside of wrestling does comedy because laughs are easier than serious drama.
That is wrong.
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