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Old 05-30-2008, 08:35 AM   #961
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Oh I seeeee. Well that I can agree with. Although, in some of the chase missions, if you can just stay within a reasonable distance of the target and just concentrate on not crashing then eventually they will crash at a set point. Doesn't always work though - generally if you can get within a few feet then you're going to have to take care of things yourself. Or hope there's another crazy driver on the road.
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Old 05-30-2008, 08:58 AM   #962
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On another topic, I'm getting pretty tired of people (not necessarily here) saying that it should have had this-or-that from the previous games. These people don't realize that GTA4 is just the base game for this generation. It was NEVER meant to have the polish and extras of SA.

If they were using the same engine, yeah, those would be good complaints, but this game, as far as I know, was built from the ground up. Sorry that they didn't spend time on adding multiple-sized Nikos and 1000 different hair styles. They were too busy trying to get the basics worked out with, for example, ragdoll physics (one of the big complaints people had from SA from what I remember) and didn't want to delay the game another year or two to get it to SA standards.

As a standalone game, it's complete. Comparing it to the third game of a different series, at which point they had perfected that gen's hardware, is just silly and unfair. By the end of this gen I'm sure we'll be seeing SA being left in the dust, with the kinks worked out and omitting the mistakes they made in the past (IE: Mandatory eating).

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I never buy this. It's ridiculous to say that it's acceptable to have major steps back because they were doing X or Y.

Also, it really cracks me up, because the "Ground up" argument is brought up so often, and almost 100% of the time, it's not true.
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:02 AM   #963
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Getting back on a bike has never been a problem, getting in the right car when you have caused a crash can be though....a small annoyance though.

I don't give a shit if the driving is realistic or not....it's grand theft auto not gran turismo.
I'd settle for "doesn't suck." But then, I expect to hear a response of "I don't care if it's good or not. It's Grand Theft Auto, not Good Theft Auto."

"Realistic" seems to be a euphemism for "crappy," and an excuse for a poor driving engine. Saints Row had one that made for a fun game without being either horribly cartoony or realistic. I don't see why I should accept a shitty driving engine based on someone else's argument that it's improved and more realistic.

The problems I pointed out as unrealistic? Yeah, they also make for a bad driving engine.
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:10 AM   #964
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Oh I seeeee. Well that I can agree with. Although, in some of the chase missions, if you can just stay within a reasonable distance of the target and just concentrate on not crashing then eventually they will crash at a set point. Doesn't always work though - generally if you can get within a few feet then you're going to have to take care of things yourself. Or hope there's another crazy driver on the road.
Honestly, if you have to crash someone, I'd stay away from a motorcycle anyway. Unless it's a mission where they'll crash themselves. I mean, you can shoot at them, but on a bike, ramming them to crash them or even just to screw them over is suicide.

I actually prefer the bikes, but mostly because I prefer the philosophy of maneuverability. It's easier to escape when you can drive on tight sidewalks and through narrow alleys, but when it comes to actually stopping someone, it's not as good. The keeping up part is fine....

When it comes to simply chasing someone down, I'll use a bike. Like the Puerto Rican Connection, or whatever it was called. It was easier for me because I was less worried about any traffic that wasn't potentially a sideswipe.

Plus, they handle a little less like ass. Not a whole lot, but enough to make a difference.

I know you're fucked if you get hit, but my general philosophy is not to get hit in the first place. It's bad Aiki.
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Honestly, if you have to crash someone, I'd stay away from a motorcycle anyway. Unless it's a mission where they'll crash themselves. I mean, you can shoot at them, but on a bike, ramming them to crash them or even just to screw them over is suicide.

I actually prefer the bikes, but mostly because I prefer the philosophy of maneuverability. It's easier to escape when you can drive on tight sidewalks and through narrow alleys, but when it comes to actually stopping someone, it's not as good. The keeping up part is fine....

When it comes to simply chasing someone down, I'll use a bike. Like the Puerto Rican Connection, or whatever it was called. It was easier for me because I was less worried about any traffic that wasn't potentially a sideswipe.

Plus, they handle a little less like ass. Not a whole lot, but enough to make a difference.
True. I try to stay away from the Sanchez and PCJ because they're made of tinfoil or something. Zombies or the other chopper types are all good though.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:13 AM   #968
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I never buy this. It's ridiculous to say that it's acceptable to have major steps back because they were doing X or Y.
They didn't take major steps back, though. Everything they did was a major step forward, all they really did was leave out some of the more in-depth (and mostly annoying) roleplaying aspects and made the scope of the map smaller than SA. Other than that it's an improvement in every aspect of the game.

I'm talking about the petty compaints like planes, (which obviously wasn't a technical issue), tanks, crazy shit (parachutes for example) and a lot of character customization being left out (the latter of which I do admit they could have done more with, but the extent SA had was just ridiculous).
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Getting back on a bike has never been a problem, getting in the right car when you have caused a crash can be though....a small annoyance though.

I don't give a shit if the driving is realistic or not....it's grand theft auto not gran turismo.
This is the correct answer.
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So for those that did the mission, who did you kill? Playboy X or Dwayne?

I killed X and took his pad.
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PBX

I mean, the game was obviously pushing you there anyway. He so deserved it. But now Dwayne won't leave me alone because I don't go out with him.
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:39 PM   #972
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:43 PM   #973
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If Dwayne becomes a buddy don't you get something if he likes you enough?
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:49 PM   #974
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Yeah, you get a gang to come with you and back you up.

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Old 06-01-2008, 01:50 PM   #975
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i'm fairly sure its just the 25,000 from PBX, then he wont ever answer the phone when u try to call him
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I killed Dwayne, didn't like the cut of his jibe.

Also, poor random man Jeff. I was actually really shocked when he kicked the bucket. At least he left lots of money for me to pick up
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Which guy is it that you can call him up and he delivers guns to you? Little Jacob?
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yep, call Little Jacob and get reduced price ammo.
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wtf Distributed316, just started that thing with Jeff. Oh well.

PS take Little Jacob to Cluckin Bell. He freaking flips out when you take him there
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True. I try to stay away from the Sanchez and PCJ because they're made of tinfoil or something. Zombies or the other chopper types are all good though.
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So for those that did the mission, who did you kill? Playboy X or Dwayne?

I killed X and took his pad.

X. I wanted that crib more than money. Plus, they both annoyed me, bu X annoyed me more. Now Dwayne's all emo on my ass, though.

Also, I just lost points with Little Jacob. Apparently, I hadn't called him in a while?

On top of that, what's with these text messages? Kiki and Alex will text me to tell me to call them and take them out, then when I do, immediately, they tell me they don't want to for some reason. Brucie calls me every thirty seconds if my phone's not on sleep...Grrrr.

Also, can you ever "score" with Kate? I keep "trying my luck" after taking her out to see if anything happens between Niko and Patrick, but so far, nothing.

While I'm on the subject, you ever notice the lines Kate gives? It's funny hearing her compliment Niko's nice new car, then complain about the life Packie and Niko lead...Where do you think he got the car?

Dealing with friends is easier once you're in Algonquin, though, and have three million cabs surrounding you....
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Also, who's played around much with the Police Computer? I've "Cleaned the Mean Streets" and wiped out all the most wanted in Algonquin...There's a conveniently located set of Police cars just south of your safehouse. Hell, there's also the car dealership nearby if you want to impress one of the self-absorbed bitches you have to date for benefits. Haven't done it for the other islands yet, though.

Something about gunning down criminals is fun, though it's irritating when the cops get on your ass.
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MOTHER FUCKER! I MISSED A BIRD SOMEWHERE!
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Yup. I think I missed it somewhere on Alderney, or S.O.H.
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End Spoilers:

So, which way did you go? Worked with Pegorino or revenge on Dimitri?

I went with revenge mainly because I read a spoiler in EGM and didn't want Roman to die. I only took Kate out once.

For those who don't know, killing Dimitri gets Kate killed at Roman's wedding. Working for Pegorino gets Roman killed at the wedding.

lol Fallen Angel.

I also stupidly didn't save to get both. But I have an earlier save with cheats and I may just run through it to get the other ending.

Overall, I thought it was a pretty great ending.
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Found the bird. Annihilator is nothing special.
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Played a ton the other day, got through alot of missions and car jobs for Stevie. Last mission I did was for Derrick, where you had to take out the cops who were transporting a certain prisoner. So awesome.
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SPOILERS, ASSHOLE!

Nah, just kidding. Derrick. He's Packie's brother sleeping inthe park when you meet him? Or am I crossing him with Gerald?

I still need to finish the boat chase. I accidentally blew myself up the last time I did it.
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Old 06-05-2008, 05:06 PM   #995
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By the way, Cheats only block acheivements when they're on. Like, The Guns and Ammo shit blocks "Cleaned the Mean Streets." Except, you know, I got it on a save where I'd used the Guns, Ammo, Health cheat. All you need to do is use the cheat, save, and reload. Or just don't go for the GS Points while they're active.

DISCLAIMER: This might not work for all cheats, I don't know.

Also, and I'm only posting this because I was told otherwise, but you guys know you can enter a cab as a passenger without whistling and even when there's a passenger already, right? Often times, when I'm locked up because I've just been forced to dial to check in with whoever I did a mission for last, I'll stand in front of a cab and wait for Niko to hang up.

Like i said, people kept saying otherwise, that the only way to catch a cab (Besides Roman's, which you can call) is to whistle and then wait for it to pull over. So if everyone knows that, then....
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Yeah, thats the dude. I hated the boat chases, such a pain.
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It is. Wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't forgot to switch off the rocket launcher after I blew up the Helicopter. One of the boats as a little too close, and when it blew up, it took us with it. Oops.

Ah well. Instead, I did that fucking motorcycle chase for Gerald. It was funny, because I managed to make the dude I was chasing slam into a Police car. Then I spent the rest of the day "dating" and "hanging out" with people because everyone was getting lonely. Then I managed to crash Brucie's chopper under one of the bridges.
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Where does the annihilator spawn once u kill all 200?

As well annoying news for anyone with the 360 version :

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/879/879706p1.html
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On top of the MeTV building in Algonquin. Go to the alleyway behind Splitsides Comedy Club, and take the windowwasher lift up. Climb the ladder, and it should be there. However, after shooting all the birds and saving and going to check it out, it wasn't there. I snagged a maverick and flew by it in the dead of night and there it was.

Long story short, this may be time sensitive.
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I killed Dwayne, didn't like the cut of his jibe.

Also, poor random man Jeff. I was actually really shocked when he kicked the bucket. At least he left lots of money for me to pick up
Jeff's the one who thinks his wife is cheating on him yeah? That was hilarious

Am now on a mission (not an actual game mission) to fool around with the swingset of death.
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