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Old 06-19-2008, 08:09 PM   #41
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To be fair, if the wellness policy had been around, Bulldog probably would have received his first warning in the same amount of time as his son.
And fired by now.

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Teddy Hart > Chris Masters, dude. By like, a fucking mile.
regular shit>diarrhea, dude. By like, a fucking mile.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:03 PM   #42
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Only started out?
Har Har.

I knew I was going to get some smart ass response to that comment. .

The point I was trying to make, was that atleast Orton wasn't "generic" once he joined Evolution. He eventually developed a DISTINCT identity, that allowed him to make a connection with the crowd. Deny it all you want, but the guy was over BIG TIME when he defeated Benoit in 2004 for the World title.

So far - I haven't seen ANYTHING out of Cody Rhodes....and he's been on the show for a few months now (or longer).

Being Hardcore Holly's bitch (and sucking his penis backstage) won't get you over with the fans. Right now - the WWE has done very little to get Rhodes over. If the guy is too green (and isn't worthy of a much), then put him back in the minors. Dibiase and DH Smith have also been way too "generic" thus far IMO.

Heck - the guys from the Spirit Squad were newbies back in 06', but they atleast developed an identiy.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:11 PM   #43
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I don't see Rhodes doing much of anything... Cody has some huge shoes to fill.
Randy Orton didn't have that big of shoes to fill aside from being third generation.
DH and Ted Jr.--- They are in the middle of an average wrestling watcher's eyes.

THE POINT- Cody's father- Former World Champ
Randy- Cowboy Bob never won the big one
DH- Dad never won the big one, h/e huge midcard draw...POTENTIAL like Randy
Ted Jr.- Same as DH

I see those two doing something.
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Old 06-20-2008, 07:41 AM   #44
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If you judged a second generation guy by his father's success, then Scott Putski would be Hall of Fame bound, Deuce would be selling out Madison Square Garden and Erik Watts would be a legendary name in the business.

Equally, the Rock would have been a mid card mainstay, Bret Hart a local territory star and Randy Savage a relative nobody.
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Old 06-20-2008, 08:46 PM   #45
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If you judged a second generation guy by his father's success, then Scott Putski would be Hall of Fame bound, Deuce would be selling out Madison Square Garden and Erik Watts would be a legendary name in the business.

Equally, the Rock would have been a mid card mainstay, Bret Hart a local territory star and Randy Savage a relative nobody.
I know right?
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Even though you explicitly stated the opposite.
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Old 06-20-2008, 09:14 PM   #47
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Deny it all you want, but the guy was over BIG TIME when he defeated Benoit in 2004 for the World title.
I'm not denying it at all. Orton was the shit in 2004. Great matches, good promos, over with the crowd (until he turned face)... Unfortunately, it seems 2004 was also his peak.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:33 PM   #48
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regular shit>diarrhea, dude. By like, a fucking mile.
Teddy Hart would be one of the top 5 workers in that company if he signed tomorrow. I don't give a fuck about his attitude either, I'd have him on my team any day.

Plus anyone who knocks out CM Punk is always gonna be in my cool book.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:45 PM   #49
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I'm excited for the Next Generation stable...DiBiase, DH, Cody, and I'm thinking we'll see Deuce drafted to Raw next week and he'll join, where it's revealed he's Snuka's son. I can see Afa Jr. getting a call-up too at some point.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:55 PM   #50
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I don't see Rhodes doing much of anything... Cody has some huge shoes to fill.
Randy Orton didn't have that big of shoes to fill aside from being third generation.
DH and Ted Jr.--- They are in the middle of an average wrestling watcher's eyes.

THE POINT- Cody's father- Former World Champ
Randy- Cowboy Bob never won the big one
DH- Dad never won the big one, h/e huge midcard draw...POTENTIAL like Randy
Ted Jr.- Same as DH

I see those two doing something.
While I don't agree with much you've saud here I do need to point out that at a time Ted Sr. was the number 1 heel oposite Hulk Hogan, that's a hell of a lot bigger than mid card. Titles aren't the sanderd of exellence.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:25 AM   #51
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While I don't agree with much you've saud here I do need to point out that at a time Ted Sr. was the number 1 heel oposite Hulk Hogan, that's a hell of a lot bigger than mid card. Titles aren't the sanderd of exellence.
Yeah, I will rephrase that...Ted Sr. was a big draw in the Main Event, but HE NEVER WON THE BIG ONE. That is what I meant to say.
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:23 AM   #52
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Who gives a shit if he never won "THE BIG ONE"? So you're saying if the offspring of Jake Roberts, Andre The Giant, Roddy Piper, Scott Hall, Arn Anderson... any number of top tier guys... got into the business, they'd be worthless because Daddy was never World champion??
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:00 AM   #53
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:00 AM   #54
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:04 AM   #55
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:39 PM   #57
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Technically Dibiase owned the big one for a few minutes...
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:57 PM   #58
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Actually, didn't he defend the belt as champion for several house shows too?
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:05 PM   #59
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Ah jeez:

-- There are, or were, rumors going around saying that Ted DiBiase's mystery partner at Night of Champions was going to be DH Smith. However, the two haven't been training together, and what with Smith's move to the SmackDown brand in the Supplemental Draft earlier today, now it definitely doesn't look like it's happening. Additionally, there doesn't appear to be anyone else on the radar for the role from developmental nor the main roster. This is only speculation, but the best bet for the mystery partner looks to be Cody Rhodes after turning on Hardcore Holly.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:03 AM   #60
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It would be pretty god damn awesome if Cody was pushed into a situation where he had nothing to lose by his choice. It would also be *gasp* pretty innovative to have Hardcore Holly & Cody Rhodes (c) vs Td DiBiase Jr and Cody Rhodes. Cody doesn't even have to choose between Title and $$; he gets both if he goes with Jr. and possibly nothing if he doesn't.

Also, there was a pretty forgettable feud between DiBiase and Dusty back in 90/91, mostly remembered for Dustin's first WWF appearances and the end of Virgil as a significant figure in the WWF. Just a good squaring off between the two would be worth a watch.
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Think about it.

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Dibiase: ...Listen, Dusty, I couldn't understand you 20 years ago and I don't understand you now. Seriously, how am I supposed to work with this???
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I am not a big fan of Cody Rhodes being DiBiase's partner. Rhodes turning and joining the stable is fine, and I am all for that, but I think Rhodes should fight with Holly at Night of Champions, lose, then defect to the winning team in the rematch. He then becomes a mid-card singles guy in the group.

To be honest, I'm not feeling this mid-card stable. None of the guys in it seem like really great workers. Ted DiBiase has potential, but he's still apparently really green. Cody is good, but who else is there? Afa? Jimmy Snuka? I'm just not feeling it right now.

Personally, I'd go with JBL being Ted DiBiase's partner, them winning the World Tag Team Championship, and then DiBiase putting together a stable when there is heat on them.
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Old 06-27-2008, 01:45 PM   #64
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Keep in mind, when Evolution formed, Orton and Batista were not big time stars. They were both guys with tons of potential, but they were green guys being put with the top guy in the company. To their credit, and to Hunter and Ric's, they got over.

Same 'could' happen here if they put the group with a top level guy; Orton being the logical choice. By doing that, maybe they can step up and get over.

However, I'm not against the idea of a mid card stable. The mid card is usually kinda dull, and by mid card, I mean the guys who rarely get on PPV, but get regular spots on RAW. These guys can fill that void by making the mid card somewhat interesting. I'm interested to see what happens with it.
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Ted Jr.: And now the big moment people, it's time to reveal my partner and the future new World Tag Team Champion.... NICK HOGAN!

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Old 06-27-2008, 03:42 PM   #67
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Honestly, Dibiase seems like he would be the leader of the group since he is masterminding the partner. But hwo do you have a leader be a tag champ? I dont think this will be a group, not yet at least. Cody will turn heel and we will have a new 2nd Generation TAg team champs. It will then be dropped in 3 months.
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When are people going to understand that Teddy Hart does not have a future with WWE?
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The wwe certainly has a future without Teddy, although it's dire and will look rather bleak.

Hire the man!
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When are people going to understand that Teddy Hart does not have a future with WWE?
When are you going to understand that he does. And the reason is very, very simple - lack of up and coming talent. There aren't 5 more talented guys in the world than this man and the fact they have signed him like 1934 times proves they know it. They just go through their normal "we like everyone to be like robots" bullshit to stop people like him getting over. His last name alone is enough of a rep for him.
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Teddy is a disgrace to the Hart name.

Someone should give him an impromptu workout that results in him getting the ever loving shit stretched out of him. It'd do him wonders.
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Or you let him ride in a car with Nick Hogan, your choice.
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Teddy is a disgrace to the Hart name.

Someone should give him an impromptu workout that results in him getting the ever loving shit stretched out of him. It'd do him wonders.
Why is he a disgrace to the Hart name exactly?

And aside from Bret and Owen, nobody has much good to say about many of Stu and Helen's offspring.
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When are you going to understand that he does. And the reason is very, very simple - lack of up and coming talent. There aren't 5 more talented guys in the world than this man and the fact they have signed him like 1934 times proves they know it. They just go through their normal "we like everyone to be like robots" bullshit to stop people like him getting over. His last name alone is enough of a rep for him.
I'm actually surprised to see you are actually a big fan of the man. I'm not a Teddy mark, or anything, but I look at the guy and see instant talent. I also see the name Hart, and see money. When I put the two together, I see someone the WWE would want to have. What did the guy even do to get hated? No sold some shit? Like Triple H no sells Booker T as a threat to the title? He sounds like he can be a cock in real life, but is that uncommon in professional wrestling?

I don't know how likely it would be, but Teddy Hart teaming with Teddy DiBiase to win the World Tag Team Championship in their RAW debuts would make me mark out.
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Honestly, Dibiase seems like he would be the leader of the group since he is masterminding the partner. But hwo do you have a leader be a tag champ? I dont think this will be a group, not yet at least. Cody will turn heel and we will have a new 2nd Generation TAg team champs. It will then be dropped in 3 months.
I could see Cody Rhodes becoming the leader. Or them not actually having a leader, and just being about winning what they can. I'd like to see Ted DiBiase revive the Million Dollar Belt, though.
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Old 06-29-2008, 12:57 PM   #76
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I do not agree.
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Old 06-29-2008, 12:58 PM   #77
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And aside from Bret and Owen, nobody has much good to say about many of Stu and Helen's offspring.
Runs in the family then.
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Old 06-29-2008, 01:03 PM   #78
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When are you going to understand that he does. And the reason is very, very simple - lack of up and coming talent. There aren't 5 more talented guys in the world than this man and the fact they have signed him like 1934 times proves they know it.
Then why isn't he in TNA anymore? They are hardly discerning about the people they sign. Surely if this guy is the 'third coming' of Hart, then he'd be in one of the 'big' two.

Makes me laugh that even TNA fired him. Nash and the boys will probably have fun if he ever came back now.
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