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Old 07-23-2008, 03:03 PM   #41
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We established in the past that the lists with wrestlers' salaries are very false.
At least it gives us something interesting to talk about. This boards been dead for a week.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:01 PM   #42
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At least it gives us something interesting to talk about. This boards been dead for a week.
So we're talking about fake statements as though true?
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:13 PM   #43
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Well, there's no way to prove or disprove the notion that they are completely fake, or even close to the actual numbers these people make.

If it isn't fake though, the situation in the "news piece" at the beginning of this thread does seem to go along with the numbers presented by Wrestlescoop.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:18 PM   #44
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Well, there's no way to prove or disprove the notion that they are completely fake, or even close to the actual numbers these people make.

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Old 07-24-2008, 07:31 AM   #45
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Snitsky isn't a maineventer. Also, Rey isn't even a maineventer, he shouldn't make as much as like Bats, Edge, HHH, or Cena. Hell, he probably shouldn't be making as much even Jericho or Micheals because he is never on tv. Rey is just lucky to have a job right now.
Explain to me why Bats is main-event material again
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:14 AM   #46
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Explain to me why Bats is main-event material again
You mean th impressive-looking guy who's mad over with the fans?

Should be self explanatory.

Now, the guy who has trouble getting heat unless he's currently braggin about screwing someone's girl...That should be a mystery.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:17 AM   #47
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So we're talking about fake statements as though true?
Way to break the home run record KK.
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Old 07-24-2008, 10:15 AM   #48
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Explain to me why Bats is main-event material again
I'm not saying I like the guy, but he is clearly mainevent and has been every smackdown and now raw title match for the past year and a half. While Rey has been injured all the time.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:03 PM   #50
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WWE making a giant mistake,
The truth is easy to see here if you take off the "goggles of prejudice", as it seems clear that a lot of people are not looking at Rey Mysterio straight up!

I have a few points to make that illustrate why WWE is making a huge mistake here in risking to lose Rey Mysterio and why they should keep him.

Lets face the facts, Rey Mysterio is unique or as Rob Van Damn would say, "One Of A Kind " and WWE seems stubborn to not admit this fact. I bet they want to replace him with someone they can pay a lot less to but the fact is here and the fact is that Rey Mysterio is irreplaceable.

I remember and some of you may too, when WWE tried to bring in a Rey Mysterio clone a few years back. His name was The Ultimate Dragon and he wrestled a very similar way to Rey Mysterio even using some of the same moves. However, this japanese rip off didn't last long because the fans saw through what the WWE was trying to pull off and the guy didnt get the reaction that Rey does, not even close.

Guess why?

Because he's not close to what Rey Mysterio is. Rey is an innovator in the ring and a charismatic wrestling machine that pulls in thousands if not millions of fans! Some of you make fun of him but the truth is the truth and when you go to a WWE show, besides John Cena and Batista, chances are, the guy getting the third or second best reaction on the show is going to be Rey Mysterio!

To those of you who are making fun of his injuries and damages he has are obviously not real wrestling fans. You know WHY he has all these injuries? Do you know why he is hurt so much? Because when Rey Mysterio goes out there to put on a show, he puts it ALL OUT. He leaves no limitations, he doesnt hold back and he does sick moves that other wrestlers may be too scared to try to do.

He sacrifices all of this not for himself but for the FANS! Rey was injured so much in the past few years because he has been sacrificing himself for your entertainment. Unlike a lot of wrestlers, Rey goes out there and puts on the best show he can and he destroys his body in the process for you. Real fans appreciate this and know this because this is what it is.

Rey has a special pulling of fans that not a lot of other guys could do. He one handedly revitalized WWE's cruiserweight division! Remember, when he came in, WWE had a light weight division which sucked for the most part and then Rey came in and he was like nothing no one saw before and revolutionized the division and gave it popularity that it enjoyed up until the time WWE decided to put it on a break. Guess what, a lot of the cruisereight champions after Rey were only popular because Rey set the standard and they were still getting a rub of him! Its as simple as THAT!

So with all the sacrifices Rey Mysterio has put on the table and the fact that he is irreplaceable and a true class act and a man that has helped improve the WWE and the wrestling business on the whole, I think it is insult, not just to Rey, but to the entire WRESTLING WORLD that WWE holds him up on his contract. They should give him what he deserves and thats a top of the line contract. They are making a mistake if they don't.

I guess they think they can find some other Rey rip off to bring in. Guess again WWE!
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:07 PM   #51
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I remember and some of you may too, when WWE tried to bring in a Rey Mysterio clone a few years back. His name was The Ultimate Dragon and he wrestled a very similar way to Rey Mysterio even using some of the same moves. However, this japanese rip off didn't last long because the fans saw through what the WWE was trying to pull off and the guy didnt get the reaction that Rey does, not even close.

Guess why?

Because he's not close to what Rey Mysterio is. Rey is an innovator in the ring and a charismatic wrestling machine that pulls in thousands if not millions of fans! Some of you make fun of him but the truth is the truth and when you go to a WWE show, besides John Cena and Batista, chances are, the guy getting the third or second best reaction on the show is going to be Rey Mysterio!


YOu have no idea what you're talking about. Ultimo doesn't wrestle like Rey at all. First off Ultimo came first so if anyone wrestles like anyone it would be the other way around, and secondly there styles aren't similare in any way.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:10 PM   #52
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You lost me at "Ultimate Dragon" being a Rey Mysterio rip-off to the point where I am pretty sure this post is farce.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:11 PM   #53
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Or maybe the WWE brought in a "Ultimate Dragon" and I missed it? Is this some other guy?
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:13 PM   #55
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Cause there's no way you could have seen Ultimo and say these things...
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:13 PM   #56
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YOu have no idea what you're talking about. Ultimo doesn't wrestle like Rey at all. First off Ultimo came first so if anyone wrestles like anyone it would be the other way around, and secondly there styles aren't similare in any way.
In fact, the last guy to make that comparison was Vince McMahon...Kinda shows how much attention he pays...Also, it worked out well, didn't it?
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Also, I'm not sure how a guy that debuted 2 years before Rey is a rip off of Rey.
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YOu have no idea what you're talking about. Ultimo doesn't wrestle like Rey at all. First off Ultimo came first so if anyone wrestles like anyone it would be the other way around, and secondly there styles aren't similare in any way.
If they wear lucha-type masks they all have the same style, duh.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:14 PM   #59
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Its true, I say what I see, and what I saw was that Ultimate Dragon was very similar to Mysterio's style and even his apperance was similar with his mask.

It was pretty clear WWE was looking to duplicate Rey Mysterio there but clearly it didn't work and it won't work now if they try.
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To get back to the point, the WWE shouldn't let him go because he probably is a good merch mover for the kids. In terms of what he will draw ratings wise on Raw, that remains to be seen, hopefully they freshen him up somehow. There are probably oodles of better masked wrestlers out there that would love to have Rey's job, but the reason they don't is because they aren't named Rey Mysterio.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:41 PM   #67
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:41 PM   #68
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So, let me get this straight, WWE brought in Ultimo Dragon because they wanted Rey Mysterio, not Ultimo Dragon?
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:49 PM   #71
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:55 PM   #72
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:01 PM   #73
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The truth is easy to see here if you take off the "goggles of prejudice", as it seems clear that a lot of people are not looking at Rey Mysterio straight up!

I have a few points to make that illustrate why WWE is making a huge mistake here in risking to lose Rey Mysterio and why they should keep him.

Lets face the facts, Rey Mysterio is unique or as Rob Van Damn would say, "One Of A Kind " and WWE seems stubborn to not admit this fact. I bet they want to replace him with someone they can pay a lot less to but the fact is here and the fact is that Rey Mysterio is irreplaceable.

I remember and some of you may too, when WWE tried to bring in a Rey Mysterio clone a few years back. His name was The Ultimate Dragon and he wrestled a very similar way to Rey Mysterio even using some of the same moves. However, this japanese rip off didn't last long because the fans saw through what the WWE was trying to pull off and the guy didnt get the reaction that Rey does, not even close.

Guess why?

Because he's not close to what Rey Mysterio is. Rey is an innovator in the ring and a charismatic wrestling machine that pulls in thousands if not millions of fans! Some of you make fun of him but the truth is the truth and when you go to a WWE show, besides John Cena and Batista, chances are, the guy getting the third or second best reaction on the show is going to be Rey Mysterio!

To those of you who are making fun of his injuries and damages he has are obviously not real wrestling fans. You know WHY he has all these injuries? Do you know why he is hurt so much? Because when Rey Mysterio goes out there to put on a show, he puts it ALL OUT. He leaves no limitations, he doesnt hold back and he does sick moves that other wrestlers may be too scared to try to do.

He sacrifices all of this not for himself but for the FANS! Rey was injured so much in the past few years because he has been sacrificing himself for your entertainment. Unlike a lot of wrestlers, Rey goes out there and puts on the best show he can and he destroys his body in the process for you. Real fans appreciate this and know this because this is what it is.

Rey has a special pulling of fans that not a lot of other guys could do. He one handedly revitalized WWE's cruiserweight division! Remember, when he came in, WWE had a light weight division which sucked for the most part and then Rey came in and he was like nothing no one saw before and revolutionized the division and gave it popularity that it enjoyed up until the time WWE decided to put it on a break. Guess what, a lot of the cruisereight champions after Rey were only popular because Rey set the standard and they were still getting a rub of him! Its as simple as THAT!

So with all the sacrifices Rey Mysterio has put on the table and the fact that he is irreplaceable and a true class act and a man that has helped improve the WWE and the wrestling business on the whole, I think it is insult, not just to Rey, but to the entire WRESTLING WORLD that WWE holds him up on his contract. They should give him what he deserves and thats a top of the line contract. They are making a mistake if they don't.

I guess they think they can find some other Rey rip off to bring in. Guess again WWE!
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Old 07-24-2008, 06:51 PM   #77
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Its not about masks, its about the gimmicks and the in-ring "aura". Ultimo Dragon attempted to recapture Rey Mysterio's aura and failed miserabely! There are plenty of guys that have been with masks such as Hurricane and it is okay because it was obvious not an attempt to recapture the aura of Rey Mysterio.

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Oh I get it, they both do hurricanranas! I see now!
Deep down you realize that what I am saying is true and you point out one fact that proves it and act like its a joke, its not. You know what the truth is and the truth is on my side in this debate. The videos you have posted are of Ultimo Dragon in Japan and he wrestled a different kind there because in the WWE, the WWE told him to wrestle a certain way and thats what he did, he was more similar to Rey in the WWE, but he is similar even in Japan. I cant believe you are not seeing it, come on!

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So, let me get this straight, WWE brought in Ultimo Dragon because they wanted Rey Mysterio, not Ultimo Dragon?
WWE wanted to replicate the sucess of Rey Mysterio and gets 2x the money they get from Rey by bringing in a Mysterio clone, but that clone flopped and was released. It is a simple example really, I dont get the confusion people are having here.

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Would be a good solid match, your point?

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It is easy to understand the psychology of some of you. You realize that you cant hang with the fact that are on my side so you instead be little me and make fun of me to make my points sound less valid, well guess what, that doesnt mean your points are any more valid then mine because they arent get real and adress the points I am making.

Back to the topic at hand, WWE is being silly to not give Rey what he deserves, I realize the economy is poor, but Rey deserves his salary WAY more then someone like Randy Orton!
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You don't ask me for my point when the point is there you stupid jackass, why don't you go fuck yourself
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Ah, yes, the old Vermaat "facts" line.

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