IGN: Top 10 Moves to Put 360 Back on Top

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight Except, as we've already established before, month to month sales won't catch them up any time in the life span of the 360.

Like you usually do, you make an answer into a question. I've already answered this point. You just didn't like the answer you got so you repeated the question as you not accepting such an answer for your failed reasons.

I can think of a few.

And I'm sure I already addressed them elsewhere.

That's nice. Live revenues, attach rates, and so on are still factors, even if you consider the most damning argument off limits.

And is yet to dent the major disparity.

Well, they're doing SOMETHING right or they wouldn't be selling boxes. And the dropping of the 360 price tag is showing a bit of desperation on MS. Why?

And remember, they had a one year head start (which I already mentioned yet you completely ignored), and MS probably isn't going to be able to charge for XBL for long.

Trust me, this M2M sales thing isn't hurting Sony any, and the M2M difference is continuing to get larger.

The problem with heavy hitters being, everyone has them. Nintendo and Microsoft have them too, which will shift things as well.

But there is a such thing to consider as how MANY heavy hitters you have. I mentioned that MS only has one main IP that everyone is waiting for, Gears of War 2) while Sony has at least 3 (maybe 4 or 5 depending on if you count Killzone 2 as one and Home as another) coming out this year or very early next year. I can't think of anything Nintendo is coming out with other than Wii Music (and we all know what reception they recieved from that). We've established that Sony has the strongest overall lineup of games for 2008, there was a reason we brought that into the conversation.

Except the margins aren't constant. A large margin in the most recent month tracked doesn't mean an upward pattern. So yeah. If they keep increasing the margin....But that's a presumption that goes beyond the current evidence. Even assuming current rate of growth doesn't change, price cuts don't impact sales, etc., we're looking at a long time before this is an issue.

Well, you go to MS and tell THEM that they didn't need the price cut they implimented, since you probably know more than they do. And then try to tell anyone else outside of your own little world that Sony didn't find their feet and got on the ball just suddenly. You'll see that you'll be outnumbered.

It's kind of like compund interest. Sure, eventually fifty bucks will become a million, but....

So...you're saying it's not possible that anyone can do that quickly? I'm not getting how you came to the conclusion that no one can just suddenly get a spike of revenue or a spike in sales and then keep it going. Obviously you're also predicting that everything will be right in the world again in August! Don't let me stop you from dreaming what you want. Just be advised that you're welcome to come back to reality whenever you're ready to join us.

The rumours that have been going around since the 360 came out? Fuck, you just said "some people" are calling it what it's been called since roughly the launch of the 360.

And you'd think they would be dead by now, right? The same rumors that have been echoed by pretty much every other gaming blog site lately?

Such rumours didn't hurt sales of the PS2. The PS3 and 360 didn't really hurt sales of the PS2. Yet, for some reason, logic dictates it will have an impact here? Nah. These are hypotheticals thrown out to demonstrate an extreme scenario in which there might be an issue.

So...Microsoft's sudden ignorance of the original XBox's existence when they introduced the 360 never happened? They remember how MS treated that situation.

People are already talking rumours of a PS4. That doesn't seem to factor into your logic. Nor is the fact that the potential for a RRoD proof console (Newer versions of the 360) didn't slow down sales.

It didn't factor into my logic because of the 10-year life cycle claim that came from Sony....or did you forget that?

That was rather slanted.

That was not a valid counterpoint to anything I said that made you want to respond that way.

Assuming they can consistantly widen the gap, yet to be demonstrated. Also assuming the fall lineup of games, price cuts and Holiday season all have no impact.

You're also assuming Sony won't answer the price cut or that no one will be interested in LBP or Resistence 2 (or, for that matter, a free online service or the Home service). And, as I mentioned up above, what other major IP do you see being a system seller for the 360. Remember that LBP is going to come out just before the holiday shopping season begins. The game will be fresh in the minds of many.

The problem is, you're assuming a lot, and ignoring a lot.

Pot, meet kettle.