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Old 09-16-2008, 10:20 PM   #1
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Jeff Jarrett came to the ring and cut a promo on Sting, saying that he was full of garbage. Jarrett said that Samoa Joe and AJ Styles were carrying this company, and that they were carrying the company before the Kurt Angle's and Sting's came to the promotion. Kurt Angle came to the ring and stated that when Jarrett left the company two years ago he handpicked Angle to take him place. Angle said that it was the worst decision he ever made, and that Jarrett left because he was washed up. Angle challenged him to a match at Bound for Glory. Jarrett said that he didn't have it in him anymore, but that he knew someone who did. He pointed to the screen and Mick Foley appeared and said, "BANG BANG!" Jarrett left Angle in the ring, as Angle stood there looking shocked.
Whaaa? This seems kinda interesting, but it could be a trainwreck.

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Old 09-16-2008, 10:23 PM   #2
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At least someone mentioned that Joe and AJ did shit before Angle and Sting arrived
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Old 09-16-2008, 10:29 PM   #3
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Angle vs. Foley? Hmm. What kind of match?
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:00 PM   #4
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Foley, you fucking whore. Fuck you, you fat sack of crap.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:01 PM   #5
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I love how they are merely paying lip service to TNA's home grown talent only to mainevent ppv with washed up WWE talent.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:04 PM   #6
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Wait, Jeff Jarrett doesn't have it anymore but Fat Fuck Foley does?
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What the fuck is everyone's fucking problem with this? Honestly, gold in the WWE suddenly gets moronic "this is crap!" treatment everywhere else. Why the fuck is Mick Foley -- arguably the best talker and one of the best big match performers in professional wrestling -- going to TNA bad? We are getting Kurt fucking Angle, the best wrestler in the world, versus Mick fucking Foley. If that's a bad thing to you, stop watching fucking wrestling.

Yes, there is some irony involved in the feud, but I'm willing to bet that Foley will make it work by cutting a promo where he puts over Samoa Joe as a guy he recommended for the WWE that has instead paved his own way, proving that veterans can learn from the young talent sometimes. OK, Mick Foley may not be a technical genius at this stage of his career (or at any stage of his career), and Angle vs. Jarrett might be the better actual wrestling match, but they seem to be giving that actual build, and saving it as a big chapter of their old guys vs. young guys feud.

You people do realise you're complaining about Jeff Jarrett, a guy you all constantly bitched about when he was wrestling, being subbed out for Mick Foley, a guy pretty much universally loved? What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:17 PM   #8
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I love how they are merely paying lip service to TNA's home grown talent only to mainevent ppv with washed up WWE talent.
Sting was never in the WWE. Samoa Joe was never in the WWE (unless you consider that Jakked taping he worked). How are they washed up WWE talent? Oh, you meant Angle and Foley. Fairly certain that's not the main event, ace. It may end up being such, but so far there is no reason to not expect Samoa Joe vs. Sting to headline Bound For Glory.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:18 PM   #9
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Why are people bitching? I'd love to see an in shape Foley against Angle.
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Why are people bitching? I'd love to see an in shape Foley against Angle.
Well, too bad you won't get that.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:22 PM   #11
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Since when did Angle become washed up?
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:24 PM   #12
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Why are people bitching? I'd love to see an in shape Foley against Angle.
Amen. The thing about Foley is that his physical shape has never been very impressive. It's always been about what sort of mental shape he's in, and how far he is ready to go to entertain. His first program in TNA? I think we're going to see a switched on Foley. Especially considering how great he was in his last appearance with the WWE.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:24 PM   #13
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:31 PM   #14
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Foley may have a heart attack...
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:52 PM   #15
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Foley may have a heart attack...
Yeah, because Foley certainly hasn't been in some of the greatest matches of all-time while being overweight.

By the way, fat jokes and alliteration in the same thread? You're really squeezing out the satire today, aren't you?
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:54 PM   #16
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Calling it now: Sting goes over Joe.

Jarrett finds the desire to come back and goes over Sting to get his title back.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:56 PM   #17
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Foley, you fucking whore. Fuck you, you fat sack of crap.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:57 PM   #18
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I love how they are merely paying lip service to TNA's home grown talent only to mainevent ppv with washed up WWE talent.
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Old 09-16-2008, 11:58 PM   #19
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Mostly because I hate the fact that Foley is in TNA.
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:02 AM   #20
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Calling it now: Sting goes over Joe.

Jarrett finds the desire to come back and goes over Sting to get his title back.
That might actually be likely.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:39 AM   #21
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In honesty without the Ric Flairs, Stings, Angles, Booker Ts and a laundry list of others, most of the TNA roster wouldn't be there, they should respect the legends before them, dumb fucks.

Also I do give Jarret props to start TNA but wasn't he in WWE before he did SNAP
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What the fuck is everyone's fucking problem with this? Honestly, gold in the WWE suddenly gets moronic "this is crap!" treatment everywhere else. Why the fuck is Mick Foley -- arguably the best talker and one of the best big match performers in professional wrestling -- going to TNA bad? We are getting Kurt fucking Angle, the best wrestler in the world, versus Mick fucking Foley. If that's a bad thing to you, stop watching fucking wrestling.

Yes, there is some irony involved in the feud, but I'm willing to bet that Foley will make it work by cutting a promo where he puts over Samoa Joe as a guy he recommended for the WWE that has instead paved his own way, proving that veterans can learn from the young talent sometimes. OK, Mick Foley may not be a technical genius at this stage of his career (or at any stage of his career), and Angle vs. Jarrett might be the better actual wrestling match, but they seem to be giving that actual build, and saving it as a big chapter of their old guys vs. young guys feud.

You people do realise you're complaining about Jeff Jarrett, a guy you all constantly bitched about when he was wrestling, being subbed out for Mick Foley, a guy pretty much universally loved? What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
LOL @ Noid spazzing out in that first paragraph.
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What the fuck is everyone's fucking problem with this? Honestly, gold in the WWE suddenly gets moronic "this is crap!" treatment everywhere else. Why the fuck is Mick Foley -- arguably the best talker

stopped reading at this point.
I'm not going to say you're wrong because everyone has the right to think what they want to, and I think you're wrong.
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Whaaa? This seems kinda interesting, but it could be a trainwreck.
TNA, in a nut shell.

But yeah. I'm happy Foley's there. Sad that Jarrett's there. Sort of confused about where it's going from there.
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Well they've got me tuning in AKA DVRing it and fast forwarding to this segment.
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LOL @ Noid spazzing out in that first paragraph.
Why does everyone think I'm spazzing out? It's writing. I was using a lot of heightened language to get across how silly some people can get around here.
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Mostly because I hate the fact that Foley is in TNA.
Because you hate the fact another wrestling company might put on a match that you want to see?
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Old 09-17-2008, 09:43 AM   #28
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Nah, because TNA sucks and I never watch it (I'm not oblivious to the fact you're quoting Juan and not me). Not to mention Foley should just stick to non-wrestling roles to take care of himself and his family.

I really hate Vince if he was the major reason Foley stopped commentating, and I'm also really disappointed in Mick for taking up/asking for an offer.

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I'm not going to say you're wrong because everyone has the right to think what they want to, and I think you're wrong.

Then for the record, I would say Alienoid wasn't too far off.
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I'd say I'm with Noid on this one.

I don't even watch TNA regularly, but I'm pretty convinced I'm going to start to see how this turns out.
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I agree that Foley should be replacing Don West on commentary (again, a Mike Tenay and Mick Foley commentary team would drop some serious knowledge on your ass), but keep in mind this is TNA's self-appointed WrestleMania equivalent. They're going to throw out the big guns here. Mick Foley and Kurt Angle wrestling on PPV is a pretty big fucking deal to wrestling fans. It's a clash of styles which would reflect a car wreck of a match, but let's face it: Both Mick Foley and Kurt Angle are too smart and too good to get bogged down by that. I think we'll see them work this out to be the best showing between them possible.

Add in that they've got Samoa Joe defending the TNA World Heavyweight Championship against a man who has walked out of the last three or so Bound For Glory main events as a World Champion, in a precursor for the new age of wrestling versus disgruntled veterans looking for respect feud. Personally, I'm not too interested in Sting nor Samoa Joe at the moment, but this is it for TNA fans. It's also the most logical match they could do. I just hope they don't switch the belt off Joe, and instead have him look like a million dollars before the veterans realise that they might need to lay down some firm law outside of the ring to get some respect.

Taylor Wilde will also likely be defending the TNA Knockout Championship against Awesome Kong, which will be a great women's match with plenty of build. Again, I hope the belt stays where it is, but Kong might win it to secure her re-signing with the company now that her contract is allegedly up. AJ Styles and Frank Trigg should also have a blow-off to their feud that isn't contested under faulty MMA rules. I'm also feeling an Ultimate X Match pitting Sheik Abdul Bashir against Consequences Creed, Jay Lethal and Sonjay Dutt, while Petey Williams teams with that new referee with wrestling skills against The Rock and Rave Infection.

All over, I think it could be a pretty decent PPV.
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What the fuck is everyone's fucking problem with this? Honestly, gold in the WWE suddenly gets moronic "this is crap!" treatment everywhere else. Why the fuck is Mick Foley -- arguably the best talker and one of the best big match performers in professional wrestling -- going to TNA bad? We are getting Kurt fucking Angle, the best wrestler in the world, versus Mick fucking Foley. If that's a bad thing to you, stop watching fucking wrestling.
Foley is a good talker and was a good worker. I didn't mind him as commentator, infact he was good. As far as working, home boy should be retired and stay retired. Plus, it isn't like Foley in his prime, never faced Angle in his prime.

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Sting was never in the WWE. Samoa Joe was never in the WWE (unless you consider that Jakked taping he worked). How are they washed up WWE talent? Oh, you meant Angle and Foley. Fairly certain that's not the main event, ace. It may end up being such, but so far there is no reason to not expect Samoa Joe vs. Sting to headline Bound For Glory.
Yeah, I know Joe and Sting were never in WWE, didn't say they were. I said that were paying lip service to TNA's home grown talent in reference to Jarrett saying that Samoa Joe and AJ Styles were carrying this company, and that they were carrying the company before the Kurt Angle's and Sting's came to the promotion. So infact I had already adressed Joe as being homegrown. As for Sting, he is a WCW guy, and you can't say he is TNA homegrown either. The point was, they are saying AJ and Joe have been carrying TNA only to give the Mainevent slot to Foley and Angle.
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BTW, before you say anything else Noid, mainevents and title matches are different. The show's headliner is going to be Angle v Foley, not Joe v Sting.
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I agree with BigDaddyCool.

But I will be sure to check out this PPV, which will be the first time..... ever I will watch a TNA show with actual intent.
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The point was, they are saying AJ and Joe have been carrying TNA only to give the Mainevent slot to Foley and Angle.
but Sting wasn't in WCW, so your point is invalid.
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but Sting wasn't in WCW, so your point is invalid.
Never said anything about Sting.
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I gotta agree fully with Noid and Rob here. What the fuck is wrong with you people? If this happened in WWE you'd all be cumming your pants.

I think it's great. And to be honest, what kind of wrestling fan doesn't?

Who knows how the matches are gonna turn out. I'd say good. Mick Foley had a fuckin CLASSIC with Orton a few years ago when nobody thought he could, and that was Orton, not Kurt Angle.

But the fued and promos are gonna be excellent. Mick Foley is a great assett to TNA. Not only professionally, but as a creative mind. They could use someone whos as talented as he is on both sides of the curtain.
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I love how they are merely paying lip service to TNA's home grown talent only to mainevent ppv with washed up WWE talent.

WWE also main events its PPVs with washed up WWE talent, if you're gonna look at it that way.
It's a problem with wrestling as a whole, rather than the companies. They put attitude era stars out there, because thats what people will watch. When they try to get away from it, the fans either don't accept that person, or the faithful resent them. It's something the wrestling business and fans need to overcome.
Don't knock TNA main eventing a PPV with Angle and Foley when WWE is main eventing theirs with Jericho and Michaels, or HHH and Undertaker.

Granted, those guys can still go. So why not? I have no problem with it and neither do most of you. Well, just like they can still go, so can Angle and the ones who didnt get Along with Vince, for the most part. The fans accept it and they still put on a hell of a match. Angle main eventing a PPV is no different or washed up than HHH or Michaels, or even Jericho. His TV age is younger than all of them. Foley, I can tell you right now can still have a great match. He just needs to dedicate himself to it in advance, which it seems he already has.
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My point is that if I want to watch washed up WWE wrestlers have matches against each other, I'll watch WWE. I was under the impression that TNA was suppose to be the alterative, not just more of the same with less production value.
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