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Old 01-06-2009, 09:15 AM   #1
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But, to be honest, the WWE abolishing their cruiserweight division has been the best thing for them. With the Cruiserweight Title gone, smaller guys have managed to be mixed into the heavyweight scene a lot more seemlessly. Jamie Noble got to be in a fantastic program with Chuck Palumbo, in which he looked fantastic, for example. The Brian Kendrick got to unofficially win the WWE Championship, and Evan Bourne is on the rise.

With Dos Caras coming in, I think there is still some interest in putting those sort of matches on occasionally, but hopefully it can sort of reach a higher niche platform. But this is the WWE we are talking about...
No, Noid. Abolishing the Cruiserweight division has NOT been the best thing for them. If you want to elevate a smaller talent, you don't have to get rid of an entire fucking division just to do it. The Noble and Kendrick mini-pushes could've happened with or without a cruiserweight division - you're just thinking about it from some fucked up perspective where a singles push of a smaller individual cannot coexist with a cruiserweight division.

Getting rid of the Cruiserweight division has been good for no one. Not for the fans, not for the dozens of exciting and talented performers who have been dismissed over the past couple years due to the company having "nothing for them," no one. I mean, come on.
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No, Noid. Abolishing the Cruiserweight division has NOT been the best thing for them. If you want to elevate a smaller talent, you don't have to get rid of an entire fucking division just to do it. The Noble and Kendrick mini-pushes could've happened with or without a cruiserweight division - you're just thinking about it from some fucked up perspective where a singles push of a smaller individual cannot coexist with a cruiserweight division.

Getting rid of the Cruiserweight division has been good for no one. Not for the fans, not for the dozens of exciting and talented performers who have been dismissed over the past couple years due to the company having "nothing for them," no one. I mean, come on.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:03 AM   #3
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I loved Dean Malenko and Chris Jericho's interactions with the Cruiserweight Title in WCW. I remember some fantastic matches between the two, and with them facing others.

One moment of awesomeness: Jericho just beat Juventud Guerra after he passed out in the Liontamer, and Jericho goes up to the camera all panicked "I just killed Juvi!"
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No, Noid. Abolishing the Cruiserweight division has NOT been the best thing for them. If you want to elevate a smaller talent, you don't have to get rid of an entire fucking division just to do it. The Noble and Kendrick mini-pushes could've happened with or without a cruiserweight division - you're just thinking about it from some fucked up perspective where a singles push of a smaller individual cannot coexist with a cruiserweight division.

Getting rid of the Cruiserweight division has been good for no one. Not for the fans, not for the dozens of exciting and talented performers who have been dismissed over the past couple years due to the company having "nothing for them," no one. I mean, come on.
It'd be nice to believe that, but do you really see the WWE pushing cruiserweights as fair game to the heavyweights when there is a Cruiserweight Title around? Of course they should be treated better regardless of the title scene, but you know that's not the way it works.

There are exceptions to this, of course, but they generally prove the rule. Before the Cruiserweight Title went bye-bye, there was pretty much no chance Chavo Guerrero was going to ever get a crack at winning a bigger belt, because the Cruiserweight Title was always calling him back. With the Cruiserweight Title gone, he was able to win the ECW Championship, which is a little higher on the ladder than the Cruiserweight Title.

The word "cruiserweight" isn't even used on WWE television anymore. They are actually being judged on their abilities, and style, and not on their size. The best Jimmy Wang Yang has looked in the WWE was when he and Shannon Moore were chasing John Morrison & The Miz for the WWE Tag Team Championships. They never won the belts, but they came damn close so many times, and the fans were so into them. They looked far better than they ever did in the cruiserweight division. Both guys can actually say they've defeated a former World Champion in John Morrison now. Of course, Shannon Moore ended up getting released, but if you believe the stories, Vince never really liked him that much and just hired him because his girlfriend wanted him in the company.

I can't really think of any push that has suffered because the cruiserweight division is gone. Can you name me one? All the pushes have been greater, and as lovely as it is to think they could have happened anyway, if you pushed guys like Jimmy Wang Yang, Jamie Noble, Shannon Moore, Hurricane Helms, Brian Kendrick and Chavo Guerrero while the division was around, then who the fuck is going to be in the division? It's just something the WWE has never been able to deal with -- pushing smaller guys while they hold a smaller guys' title. The closest I think they've ever come to is Gregory Helms.

Also, which talent were released because the WWE got rid of the Cruiserweight Title? Nunzio is gone, which is a damn shame, but he could have been used in a tag team or something. Or as an enhancement guy. Shannon Moore also got cut, but we've addressed him. Funaki, Jimmy Yang, Jamie Noble, Hornswoggle, Chavo Guerrero, Gregory Helms and Brian Kendrick are all still around.

Look, if the WWE could bring back the Cruiserweight Title, and treat the guy holding it as the best guy of his weight class, fine. Do it. They had the chance to do that when Gregory Helms was Cruiserweight Champion and Rey Mysterio was World Heavyweight Champion, though. A little rivalry between the two with Helms claiming to be on equal ground as Rey because he's the Champion of Cruiserweights and Rey is a cruiserweight could have been really cool. They hinted at it with a match between the two, but I think Helms wanted to ditch the Cruiserweight Title for the World Heavyweight belt, or something, and he got handedly taken down by Mysterio. Not cool.

I am the king of pipe-dreams around here, but could you honestly see the WWE treating cruiserweights seriously within a division? I mean, they put the fucking title on Hornswoggle for crying out loud!

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