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Old 01-07-2009, 12:47 PM   #41
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Pretty much only this. Anyone who tells you he can't wrestle is dumber than the sock who made the thread in the first place.
You wouldn't say he's bland?
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:16 PM   #42
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I was just surfing wikipedia and I realized that Cena is on his 4th world title run. I could have sworn it was like his 10th or are his reigns just that long?
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:23 PM   #43
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:24 PM   #44
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If you guys start blaming Cena fot the length of his title runs my head is gonne explode.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:24 PM   #45
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It's the same reason why people hate Halo:

Fot some reason, it became cool to hate the cool thing. And since it's not allowed to form your own opinion, people have to go with the majority just to look cool
The reason people hate Halo is because it was terribly over hyped and is in fact, quite an average game. The only reason Halo made it to where it was is because it came out on a system, that at the time, had no games. Thus it was championed because it was just a little above average.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:25 PM   #46
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Yeah Halo is really shit.*

*I haven't played it online nor do I plan on it
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If you guys start blaming Cena fot the length of his title runs my head is gonne explode.
Not blaming him, but you must agree that they are super long if someone things he had like 10 when he just started his fourth.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:27 PM   #48
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They're only long cause the WWE has gotten us used to these crazy short title reigns. I'm way more pissed edge's last reign was only 30 days than I am Cena held it for like, 11 months or so.
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Testy Desty has a point. Here is hoping for a 5 year Edge title run
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You wouldn't say he's bland?
I would say he's bland only insofar as he's pushed in a very bland fashion. The guy's charismatic and very capable of wrestling; he's just being asked to play a guy who doesn't sell and knows five moves. He showed variety and psychology early on, and I doubt he's forgotten all that recently.

So I would say his bland, but that relates to the obnoxious way he's been pushed.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:37 PM   #51
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I'd blame Cena just to see Destor's head explode. I wanna look inside and see what meth does to your brain.
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WWE Title

first reign 280 days (9.5 months)
second reign 133 days (4.5 months
third reign 380 days 12.5 months

number of reigns 3 - 793 days (2 years 2 months 3 days)

World Title

Won November 23rd - 44 days

given the length of his other reigns, he will lose it at Summerslam (my guess)
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:42 PM   #53
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My problem with Cena is his lack of any kind of real, intense edge to his character. He's said it before in interviews: nobody writes lines for him - they give him the basics of what they want him to say and he goes out and does his own thing. That's the problem. His "own thing" is often vanilla white icing. Yeah, it's good - tastes good, looks good - but it's bland as all fuck, and god damn it, it's on top of the cake and that's what we're going to get.

For example, "Cena is Poopy" is still fucking unforgivable to me, and I'm willing to bet that it was his fucking call to write that shit. Just awful.

Austin had edge - Rock had edge - Triple H had edge - Sting had edge - hell, even Samoa Joe has more of an edge than John Cena. I don't truly blame the guy for this - I think that edge and that "cool factor" are part of who you are as a human being, and Cena simply doesn't have that.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:46 PM   #54
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everytime one of these threads starts, ive noticed as the tpww forums #1 lurker that slowly but steadily...people are actually defending cena more often....gasp
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also for the record, Cena is the SOLE reason stopped watching wrestling 2 years ago..
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Austin had edge - Rock had edge - Triple H had edge - Sting had edge - hell, even Samoa Joe has more of an edge than John Cena. I don't truly blame the guy for this - I think that edge and that "cool factor" are part of who you are as a human being, and Cena simply doesn't have that.
Would you say Edge has edge?
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:31 PM   #58
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Austin had edge - Rock had edge - Triple H had edge - Sting had edge - hell, even Samoa Joe has more of an edge than John Cena. I don't truly blame the guy for this - I think that edge and that "cool factor" are part of who you are as a human being, and Cena simply doesn't have that.
Damn, Edge is a slut.
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he's a good guy who does what right. let's compare cena to other wrestlers with wwe.

will regal- when was the last time cena got suspended for drugs?
randy orton- i can't make any jokes about cena using too many headlocks.
mvp- cena has never been on a losing streak.
val venis- at least cena gets time on tv.
edge- cena beat edge at his own match, the tlc.
mark henry- at least cena doesn't need a manager.
jillian hall- i bet cena's album outsold hers.
chris jericho- cena is a better wrestler, which is why he has had more titles.
mankind- cena still wrestles for the biggest company.


he's better than them.
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If cenas gimmick was the same as it was on smackdown with the "freestyles" and inuendos it would have had more steam. It seems that around the time he won his first world title he got toned down to generic grinning good guy.

Vinces's "bag o' gimmicks" must be getting pretty thin on originality, if it ever had any to begin with.
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I will say again, I do not have any problem with John Cena as a person. He's a good worker with talent and has respect for the business. But, his storylines are boring, his gimmick is bland, and he needs freshened up like nobody's business. They've spent too much time making him Stone Cold 2 instead of Cena 1.
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:37 PM   #71
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I will say again, I do not have any problem with John Cena as a person. He's a good worker with talent and has respect for the business. But, his storylines are boring, his gimmick is bland, and he needs freshened up like nobody's business. They've spent too much time making him Stone Cold 2 instead of Cena 1.
Your saying that Stone Colds storylines were boring, his gimmick bland and in need of a freshen up? Towards the end he needed something new, but comparing it to Cena is horrible.
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I see Cena as a hybrid of Austin, Rock and Hogan. He's got the "edge" of Austin, the "snappiness" of Rock and the "wholesome image" of 80's Hogan.

Unfortunately, it's not a good recipe.

As I've said in the past, Cena has everything he needs to be over at around an Austin or a Rock level but the writing and general image of the company is keeping him back.
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everytime one of these threads starts, ive noticed as the tpww forums #1 lurker that slowly but steadily...people are actually defending cena more often....gasp
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Your saying that Stone Colds storylines were boring, his gimmick bland and in need of a freshen up? Towards the end he needed something new, but comparing it to Cena is horrible.
The sequel is never as good as the originall, see.
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I like the bad ass characters, but Cena I just don't buy as one of those. Back before he won the title he was that character. And here I thought it was just UPN that was toning him down. Things were supposed to be different when he was moved to RAW, it just didnt pan out that way.
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