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Old 01-17-2009, 07:05 PM   #1
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ECW Title?
Why oh why did they take the title off Hardy? Plus to some random guy that, probably half this board (Including myself) have never heard of. Matt gave that belt some meaning, and to give a "World Title" to a rookie?

Come on now.............
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:08 PM   #2
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1) Matt Hardy is getting fired
2) Matt Hardy is filming a movie
3) Matt Hardy will start feuding with Edge and Christian
4) It was a pointless change and he will get it back at the Rumble

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Old 01-17-2009, 07:09 PM   #3
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:27 PM   #4
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I think Matt Hardy is ready for bigger and better things. Plus Jack Swagger is awesome.
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:29 PM   #5
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So Juan votes 3?
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:30 PM   #6
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Yes, 3.
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:31 PM   #7
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Although, I won't rule out 4.
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I was thinking they were building towards a Matt v. Jeff v. Edge. v. Christian ladder match at Mania. But it would be stupid to do that then with MitB. So then I thought maybe they would have those four in the CHAMBER and have Matt win that and turn heel, though that is a pretty rushed turn and screws the E&C storyline, not to mention HHH isn't in the title picture (though he would be free to face Taker, I doubt they would bank on Matt v. Jeff to carry the title match at Mania).
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Well, they do have Cena. Cena/Orton could easily be their headline, with a Taker vs HHH or HBM match being their non-title headliner.

Everyones convinced that HBM and JBL will definitely lead to a mania main event, but judging how WWE operates I don't know why thats set in stone. They could easily put an end to that at one of the next two ppvs, or even on a random raw.
I wouldn't count out HBM/Taker happening yet.

Who knows what else they'll put out of there as a "main event." Look at the past two years.

So, I wouldn't rule out a WWE title match like that going down.
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:59 PM   #10
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I also wouldn't bet a cent on it though. Given the fact that theres 2 world titles and the winner of the rumble last year didn't even use his shot at Mania, I don't know how anyone would be expected to venture a guess.
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Old 01-17-2009, 07:59 PM   #11
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I think eventually we'll see Matt v. Jeff v. Edge. v. Christian l in some fashion, but doing at WM would seem a bit rushed.
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I dunno. A lot can and has happened between Rumble and Mania. It will happen this year at some point though.
You could easily see Edge and Christian team up within the next month, and then Jeff vs Christian at No Way Out, while Matt and Edge go at it. Then all it takes is one GM announcement of a Four Way TLC and it's booked.
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Batista's winning the rumble though. So lets not get too excited
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I think eventually we'll see Matt v. Jeff v. Edge. v. Christian l in some fashion, but doing at WM would seem a bit rushed.
You know what would be badass, a tag team, double jeopardy esque money in the bank.... I know, it's sounds like a TNA gimmick, but still.

Have like the Hardys vs Edge and Christian vs CM Punk and Kofi (not the best choice, but they'd make sense for it.)

Have whichever team gets the briefcase down first wins, but then it's put back up, and the winning team fights each other for a world title show. SO if Edge and Christian won, the two of them would immediately compete against each other in a ladder match for the MitB.

I know, it sounds convoluted, but it COULD be cool.
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I think it's a big enough match that it just needs to be cut and dry. Those four, ladders, world title, ppv.
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Old 01-17-2009, 09:45 PM   #18
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I smell a swerve. Matt Hardy/Edge/Christian form The New New Brood and make Jeff Hardy's life miserable. Jeff Hardy loses at WrestleMania and isn't seen again.

At SummerSlam, Gangrel makes his epic return in order to lead his group The Brood in their ultimate destiny...destroying The Undertaker in revenge for the floggings Taker gave them back in The Ministry.

At SummerSlam, The Brood IV vs Undertaker/Kane in a HELL IN A CELL FIRST BLOOD MATCH. In the middle of the match, the middle of the ring explodes and out comes a demonic cocaine-enraged JEFF HARDY!!! Jeff Hardy assaults The Brood IV until all of the members are left in a bloody mess as Kane and Undertaker look in awe at the new Jeff Hardy.

Jeff Hardy begins to attack each member of The Brood in the weeks building up to Survivor Series. At Unforgiven, he takes out Christian. At No Mercy, he takes out Edge. At Cyber Sunday, he takes out Gangrel. The demon-like Jeff Hardy challenges his brother to a 2/3 falls match at the Survivor Series. Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy battle for almost an hour as Jeff wins the 1st fall, Matt wins the seconds fall. The 3rd fall looks to be in Jeff Hardy's favor as he covers Matt after a Swanton off the top of 3 ladders stacked on a table set on fire and covered in mustard.

The lights go out, and come back on with Matt and Jeff being blood bathed in the shape of a cross. They are both pinning each other so the ref counts to 3 and declares the match a draw. Suddenly, a bright white light fills the arena as the bodies of Matt and Jeff are raised to the top of the arena...

The lights go out and the music plays...



MORDECAI HAS COME TO CLEANSE THE WWE OF ITS SINS!!!!!!
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I'd like to think that they have bigger plans for Matt Hardy, such as teaming with Jeff Hardy to feud with Edge & Christian for WrestleMania, but they could just be switching the title for ADD's sake.
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I smell a swerve. Matt Hardy/Edge/Christian form The New New Brood and make Jeff Hardy's life miserable. Jeff Hardy loses at WrestleMania and isn't seen again.

At SummerSlam, Gangrel makes his epic return in order to lead his group The Brood in their ultimate destiny...destroying The Undertaker in revenge for the floggings Taker gave them back in The Ministry.

At SummerSlam, The Brood IV vs Undertaker/Kane in a HELL IN A CELL FIRST BLOOD MATCH. In the middle of the match, the middle of the ring explodes and out comes a demonic cocaine-enraged JEFF HARDY!!! Jeff Hardy assaults The Brood IV until all of the members are left in a bloody mess as Kane and Undertaker look in awe at the new Jeff Hardy.

Jeff Hardy begins to attack each member of The Brood in the weeks building up to Survivor Series. At Unforgiven, he takes out Christian. At No Mercy, he takes out Edge. At Cyber Sunday, he takes out Gangrel. The demon-like Jeff Hardy challenges his brother to a 2/3 falls match at the Survivor Series. Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy battle for almost an hour as Jeff wins the 1st fall, Matt wins the seconds fall. The 3rd fall looks to be in Jeff Hardy's favor as he covers Matt after a Swanton off the top of 3 ladders stacked on a table set on fire and covered in mustard.

The lights go out, and come back on with Matt and Jeff being blood bathed in the shape of a cross. They are both pinning each other so the ref counts to 3 and declares the match a draw. Suddenly, a bright white light fills the arena as the bodies of Matt and Jeff are raised to the top of the arena...

The lights go out and the music plays...



MORDECAI HAS COME TO CLEANSE THE WWE OF ITS SINS!!!!!!

And the writers at WWE just wrote that down and are filming it now.
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Didn't/doesn't MAtt have some kind of injury?
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Why aren't any of you talking about how awesome Jack Swagger is?
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I do agree with Juan, though.

Jack Swagger needs this more than Matt Hardy.
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Batista's winning the rumble though. So lets not get too excited
I have said that for the past few weeks. But it pisses me off to no end.
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:51 PM   #30
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:20 PM   #31
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I've been reconsidering my thought on Edge v. Christian v. Jeff v. Matt in a ladder match at Mania. In addition to the aforementioned reasons why NOT to do it yet, in business terms it makes better sense to hold off on it because it's like their one PPV that sells itself. Now I'm thinking a much slower build to Summerslam. This would still give HHH his title shot. Then things can work out so HBK gets his freedom and can take on Taker, Orton takes on Cena, and we all win.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:21 PM   #32
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:37 PM   #33
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I've been reconsidering my thought on Edge v. Christian v. Jeff v. Matt in a ladder match at Mania. In addition to the aforementioned reasons why NOT to do it yet, in business terms it makes better sense to hold off on it because it's like their one PPV that sells itself. Now I'm thinking a much slower build to Summerslam. This would still give HHH his title shot. Then things can work out so HBK gets his freedom and can take on Taker, Orton takes on Cena, and we all win.
Well, except for those watching Cena vs. Orton.

I'm thinking that they may run The Hardys vs. Edge & Christian at WrestleMania, and call it the "Tag Team Match of the Quarter-Century," or something. As I see John Morrison in the Money in the Bank Ladder Match, I could very easily see the World Tag Team Championship being won by one of the teams, and defended in this match.

A Ladder Match between Edge, Christian, Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy (either in teams or as opponents) could happen at a PPV later down the track, as you said. Probably not as late as Summerslam, but I think it could be used for something other than Mania.

Oh, and by the way, Jack Swagger is awesome. Doesn't him winning the ECW Title make him the fastest risen star in WWE history? Bobby Lashley took over a year to win the ECW Title, I believe. Kurt Angle took almost a year. Brock Lesnar took five months, so I think Swagger beats him by about one month.

Swagger should start playing that up, if it's true. But I suppose I can trust Matt Striker to bring it up. Best commentator in the business right now. One thing I'll add about Swagger: I really like it that he's actually a heel, and not just a cocky guy we are meant to boo. This guy actually plays an asshole that backs up what he says, which makes him even more dislikable.
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Old 01-21-2009, 03:00 PM   #34
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He may well have won the title in less time than Lesnar but it's hardly as prestigious.

When Lesnar won the WWE Title it was the top belt. The only top belt.

Swagger won the ECW Title (NOTE: not the ECW World Title).
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:51 AM   #35
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He may well have won the title in less time than Lesnar but it's hardly as prestigious.

When Lesnar won the WWE Title it was the top belt. The only top belt.

Swagger won the ECW Title (NOTE: not the ECW World Title).
Merely schematics. You can argue that it doesn't mean as much, but the WWE still call Triple H a twelve-time WWE Champion. They can twist it to how they want. Of course Swagger winning the ECW Title isn't nearly as prestigious as Brock Lesnar becoming Undisputed Champion at age 25, but Swagger still sets the record.

The only people who will question it are probably marks for the guy, anyway.
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:54 AM   #36
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Santino won the IC belt on his first apperance. He sets the record by far, if we are going this way about it. ECW title is not a world title, its a second tier title.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:26 PM   #37
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Yea, I do agree that maybe waiting on Edge v Christian v Jeff vs Matt might be wiser. I want to see it badly, but it would be wiser from a booking standpoint to hold off.
They can get a lot out of the program either way though.

There can be different combinations of singles matches from Jeff vs Edge, to Jeff vs Christian, and likewise with Matt Hardy.
There can also be plain and simple tag matches between the two teams.
I wouldn't be suprised if we saw Jeff vs Christian at No Way Out, and Matt vs Edge, then a regular tag team contest at Wrestlemania.

Over the summer they could do a number of things. The 4 way TLC match for the title will be a huge draw, as would a 4 way or Tag Team Hell in a Cell.
They could do great tv matches with regular or gimmick matches involving various combinations of the 4.

The angle has legs if they don't throw it away
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In theory, if it started at Royal Rumble, the angle could carry through Summerslam before it lost steam. There's a number of matches and things that could be done. From there, they could also lead into a singles fued stemming from it, like Christian vs Edge with one turning face.
It could be huge for Smackdown all year.
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