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Old 01-19-2009, 02:36 PM   #1
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I think it is fairly clear WWE needs to turn one of their major raw stars.
The whole Raw mainevent scene is stagnet. I mean how many times can we see face Cena v heel JBL, or heel Orton, or tweener HBK? Seriously one of the top guys needs to have a full turn, but who?

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Oh, Jericho would be pointless because he just turned heel.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:38 PM   #2
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Orton seems to be the closest to turning face right now, but I don't really want to see that happen since I think they have a good thing going now with his character.

But since they love to bring alot of things back, I would be all for a JBL face turn. He was a great comedy face, not to mention he has been a heel for almost 5 years now.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:41 PM   #3
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I would like to see them balls up and make either Rey or Cena heel, they have never faced off.
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:52 PM   #4
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Turn CM Punk Heel.

Feud him with Cena for a month, nice little filler.
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I think the best approach from a creative standpoint would be Cena, but they have business interests as well and that's not going to happen.

Batista as a heel would have been a nice change of pace, but he's gone for a while. I'd prefer HBM as a heel ala 1997, but that's also not going to happen because he doesn't want to and has the clout to say no.
Rey as a heel is risky, because although it would be fresh, it could be ridiculous. He works better as the loveable underdog. He'd be a pipsqueek heel like Santino, unless they built him up as having a mean streak and being a badass (which would be laughable).

So yea, I don't know what they could do. They have options creatively, but other things are holding it back.
Best bet is probably to have CM Punk go heel, and start acting like an ass and cutting egotistical promos and the like.
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I would make Rey just a charity case/bad attitude heel. Everything happens to him. He could get on a real jerk streak constantly bitching about how unfair everything is for a man his size, I know I'm stealing the idea from someone here cause it was a good idea. He could weasel the title away from Cena pulling shit where he has a clear advantage.

Then when Bats comes back from injury, they could do have him confront his old friend Rey about how he has been acting. Rey would throw everything back in Bats's face saying he doesn't understand cause of his size and just piss Bats off. I would have batista win the title off Rey at that point, then Bats would go to Cena saying Cena got robbed of the title and offer him a title shot. That would make a good series.
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Is it an odd week? Kane should be turning face.

But Cena or Rey would be the best choices.
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CM Punk could be a great heel for them, but the best type of heel he could be would be fairly similar to the current incarnation of Jericho as heel.

Basically, they should wait.
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It's been a while, but I think they should move Big Show over to Raw. I think a heel Big Show would fit on the Raw roster at the moment...build him up on Smackdown with a lengthy run and then do a talent trade or something.

I'm not sure turning anyone currently on raw would have any effect really.
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All I know about Raw is, I'm terribly uninterested in what they bring to the table with their roster.
It's not that I dislike the guys on Raw, I'm just bored with the current arangement. The only guy/angle I'm still interested in is pretty much Jericho. HBM is always gold, but even he can't really save his current storyline.

In general, I'm far more interested in Smackdown, even though life prevents me from ever catching it live. I wish Smackdown as it is now was Monday night Raw. Edge, HHH, Jeff Hardy, Taker and the rest of the lot is far more interesting to me for whatever reason these days. Also, if Christian ends up there they're one HBM or Jericho trade away from being far and away the best roster in years.
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I would make Rey just a charity case/bad attitude heel. Everything happens to him. He could get on a real jerk streak constantly bitching about how unfair everything is for a man his size, I know I'm stealing the idea from someone here cause it was a good idea. He could weasel the title away from Cena pulling shit where he has a clear advantage.

Then when Bats comes back from injury, they could do have him confront his old friend Rey about how he has been acting. Rey would throw everything back in Bats's face saying he doesn't understand cause of his size and just piss Bats off. I would have batista win the title off Rey at that point, then Bats would go to Cena saying Cena got robbed of the title and offer him a title shot. That would make a good series.
Plus, if Rey were to start going weaponhappy, that'd help him with a legit badass nature. Not make it that he's any greater physical threat all of a sudden, but slowly put it in his head that he's been the underdog for years and it's time he evens the field. And just start chairing people left and right. Before their matches, so they're weaker, during the match when the ref's not looking -- heck, let's say next week it's Punk vs. Rey. So this week, after Punk's match, Rey appears in the ring and wails on him to soften him up. Make him brutal, but not stronger. That's hoe Rey is a legitimate heel.
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Rey could start demanding people tie an arm behind their back, or equally frustrating measures.
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I don't think it'd work well if he was whiney about it, tho. Simply because of how long he's bragged about it. NOt bragged. But you know.
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John Cena turning after WrestleMania would be one of the most exciting things they could do.
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Why not before? He's gonna get booed out of the arena anyway.
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Why not before? He's gonna get booed out of the arena anyway.
They could do it before, but something like that needs a trigger. Unless they have a mammoth face wrestle Cena at WrestleMania (like The Undertaker or Stone Cold Steve Austin), I cannot see him turning heel.
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I would like to see them balls up and make either Rey or Cena heel, they have never faced off.


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Well they haven't faced off in a long time then. It would at least be a fresh fued.
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I think RAW needs something new and innovative.

Like a series of debates between Khali and Umaga.





Actually, as a one-off, that could be quite comical.
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If it was up to me, I would try to convert John Cena into a heel, but Orton (and Team Legacy) would have to turn face to counter....and this won't be happening anytime soon.

Bring back RVD on a HHH-less show.

Either that, or elevate CM Punk again.

Taker being on RAW again...as a face....could also freshen things up. Who knows.
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I think Taker should definitely get one last run on RAW before he retires. I'd love to see a heel John Cena vs. face CM Punk feud this year, too.
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Taker and Cena haven't faced off for a long time if at all.
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:24 AM   #28
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Facts,

1. John Cena will not turn heel.

2. Rey will not turn heel.

3. Orton will not turn face.

A Matt Hardy turn would be golden, and having Christian comeback to be on Jeff Hardy's side. Besides that, HHH being a heel could be nice. Could be............
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:31 AM   #29
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I'm talking about Raw, not ECW/Smackdown
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:17 AM   #30
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I think Taker should definitely get one last run on RAW before he retires. I'd love to see a heel John Cena vs. face CM Punk feud this year, too.

Only way Taker would work in my eyes is having him go back to the American Bad Ass Gimmick, I'm bored with the Deadman gimmick, at least when I heard "American Bad Ass" and "Rollin" played as Taker came to the ring, I got amped and marked out, using his old entrance music as he does today is boring and I can't give him a pop for it.

Anyone else feel this way?
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Old 01-20-2009, 01:38 PM   #31
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I'd like him to have better music, yes. Retarded, lame, generic Underbiker? No.
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Old 01-20-2009, 05:32 PM   #32
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I dunno, with the mention of Taker going back to Raw I kinda liked the idea of a Taker v Punk programme...but I saw it with Biker Taker. I guess it'd kinda be like the small fued between Taker and Jeff Hardy back in the day.

So I wouldn't mind seeing BikerTaker return but it'd seem awkward having gone from Deadman to Biker then back to Deadman and then back again.
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:17 PM   #33
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Yes. Also, it would be lame.
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Coming from a guy that likes The Beserker and Battle Kat?
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:20 AM   #35
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I've been saying it since his promos about how he's going to be on ECW- CM Punk as a heel is money in the goddamn bank.
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:24 AM   #36
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The Christian-Jeff vs Matt-Edge storyline would be very cool. I think having Matt align with Edge would be very interesting, for obvious reasons, and a great way to help Matt get heat as a heel.

But, I think the long awaited and obvious prospect of E&C vs The Hardys is cut and dry the way to go at first. It's too perfect and exciting not to tap into right away.
The storyline you suggest would be awesome, but more interesting down the road.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:35 AM   #37
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Coming from a guy that likes The Beserker and Battle Kat?
I never said I liked Berserker. I thought Berserker was astonishing. Not in a good way, but astonishing that it happened. Battle Kat, however, was the goods.
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:10 PM   #40
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