Hogan at Wrestlemania 25?

[thedamndest]

Ideally they would have Jericho get this hypothetical big legend win at WM 25 and then keep pushing him and then give him that big win over the retiring legend.

I'm not sure when this program with the legends will end, or if it will result in another title chase, but that doesn't necessarily mean Jericho isn't "up there" or that beating an Austin or Hogan would be a waste. It would validate his claims and keep him hot without having him get involved with any of the title scene, which keeps your options open on where to go with him. He's held the title, and while he wasn't the "best" champion it makes him viable enough that he can already compete at that level and be a believable threat to the title, as opposed to Kane who has held the ECW title and the WWE title for one night, but is never really to be taken seriously.

But if someone does go out earlier than expected (say Orton gets injured) Jericho could very easily fill in and take the title whenever, and it would be credible. I just don't think his character is headed in that direction right now.

[Heyman]

Originally Posted by thedamndest Ideally they would have Jericho get this hypothetical big legend win at WM 25 and then keep pushing him and then give him that big win over the retiring legend. I'm not sure when this program with the legends will end, or if it will result in another title chase, but that doesn't necessarily mean Jericho isn't "up there" or that beating an Austin or Hogan would be a waste. It would validate his claims and keep him hot without having him get involved with any of the title scene, which keeps your options open on where to go with him. He's held the title, and while he wasn't the "best" champion it makes him viable enough that he can already compete at that level and be a believable threat to the title, as opposed to Kane who has held the ECW title and the WWE title for one night, but is never really to be taken seriously. But if someone does go out earlier than expected (say Orton gets injured) Jericho could very easily fill in and take the title whenever, and it would be credible. I just don't think his character is headed in that direction right now.

Good post.

When you spin it like that, I definitely agree with what you're saying.

I guess my thinking is also this: IF you're going to allow someone (i.e. Jericho) to beat a huge legend, then he should atleast have the potential to "rise to greater heights" with his character.

As it relates to Jericho, I just don't think he can get any 'bigger' or 'more over' than he is. The guy has had a long run as a face and a long run as a heel. Long story short - Jericho has plateau'd.

Cena, Batista, and Orton on the other hand, are a bit different. Cena and Batista can still 'take their current character to greater heights' (or revitalize their character) with a heel turn of sorts. Orton on the other hand, still has a lot of untapped potential with HIS new character.

The feeling I get from Jericho (or Edge for that matter) is that we're not going to ever see anything different than what we're seeing from them now.

I know this argument seems a bit unrelated (and I'm finding it a bit difficult to explain), but I think it ties in.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by Hunter Heyman Hindu Good post. When you spin it like that, I definitely agree with what you're saying. I guess my thinking is also this: IF you're going to allow someone (i.e. Jericho) to beat a huge legend, then he should atleast have the potential to "rise to greater heights" with his character. As it relates to Jericho, I just don't think he can get any 'bigger' or 'more over' than he is. The guy has had a long run as a face and a long run as a heel. Long story short - Jericho has plateau'd. Cena, Batista, and Orton on the other hand, are a bit different. Cena and Batista can still 'take their current character to greater heights' (or revitalize their character) with a heel turn of sorts. Orton on the other hand, still has a lot of untapped potential with HIS new character. The feeling I get from Jericho (or Edge for that matter) is that we're not going to ever see anything different than what we're seeing from them now. I know this argument seems a bit unrelated (and I'm finding it a bit difficult to explain), but I think it ties in.

I disagree with you about Chris Jericho and Edge. If Jericho has hit a plateau, something like a big win over Hogan would really snap him out of that, and bring him back to the rise he was on late last year. It'd give him a legitimate claim to being "Superstar of the Year" again, and would basically keep Jericho afloat as a major player for all of 2009.

Personally, I feel that Jericho SHOULD win his match against whoever he faces at WrestleMania. The legacies of Stone Cold Steve Austin and Hulk Hogan are cemented. They are not going anywhere. While I'm sure the company will put them over, so the bad guy gets his comeuppance, I just don't think that is the wisest way to go. Jericho getting a clean win would allow him to say that he is better than either man now, and allow him to claim that he is just as good as either man ever was.

Jericho's heat would sky-rocket, because when he said that he is the best at what he does, fans would boo, partially because they fear that it's true. With there being a very great chance that John Cena will be World Heavyweight Champion after WrestleMania, he could really use a strong heel opponent. Jericho off an Austin/Hogan win would be perfect for that.

As for Edge, while he sometimes sleepwalks and is overshadowed but some of the other heels under contract, sometimes he really steps it up, and becomes the shining point of the company. He was so ready for a face turn after his Hell in a Cell Match with The Undertaker last year, if you ask me, and I'm sure Edge is just one kick-ass performance away from potentially giving Vickie Guerrero a Spear, and becoming the awesome face he once was.

If they do Edge vs. Cena, which I agree is boring, then I'd personally like to see a double-turn. More so than I would have with Cena vs. Orton. I don't know how they could do it, but Edge turning face and Cena turning heel at WMXXV could be a huge turning point for the company.