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Old 07-12-2009, 02:49 PM   #1
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JTG
I'm very ambivalent about him. I dislike that he doesn't have a name. I dislike that he appears to be Vince's "nigger joke". But he's got to be one of the most creative guys they have in terms of in-ring maneuvers. When I watch his matches, I want to be like, "This guy is very impressive, I should root for him". But then I see how he dresses, walks and speaks, and I suddenly remember why I hate him.

I'm sure if he were allowed to act like a person, instead of a BET cartoon, I would officially be able to get behind him. But so far, his two-dimensional "character" is keeping me well at bay.

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What the fuck happened to you in your childhood? I thought you were just an artsy fartsy type dude, but you are a fucking fruit loop.
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Afterlife seems like a "pretty cool guy". I would exchange stories with him over beer if given the opportunity.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:10 PM   #2
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Maybe his "character" is actually very close to how he acts in real life...

Now who's racist?
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:26 PM   #3
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Then I just can't like him.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:32 PM   #4
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The only thing I really hate about him is his lack of a name, as in what does JTG stand for? Are we supposed to believe that he and Shad Gaspard are related and that the 'G' in JTG is for 'Gaspard'? If so, what the hell is his first and middle names?

That's all I've ever really wondered, and I've always found him quite amusing personally.
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:36 PM   #5
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:49 PM   #6
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Old 07-12-2009, 04:25 PM   #7
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That's retarded.
If it was, he'd be JTR.
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Old 07-12-2009, 06:16 PM   #8
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I've always kinda liked Cryme Time but yeah the name issue bugs me and they really are a cartoon form of a black wrestler

Christ can you imagine if Vince woulda made Bobo Brazil or Rocky Johnson do that gimmick

Woulda been a war with WWE and the NAACP
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Old 07-12-2009, 06:19 PM   #9
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Shouldn't this thread be titled "Cryme Tyme" since they both have the same gimmick?
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Old 07-12-2009, 07:00 PM   #10
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Shouldn't this thread be titled "Cryme Tyme" since they both have the same gimmick?
Shad has cliche black guy hair, but he's nowhere near as insulting as JTG. His "Money, money" stuff is grating, I'll give you that. But his speech doesn't always make me wanna take a bath with a toaster. Even his attire is passable as realistic.

Shad = Jeans and a tank top.

JTG = Chappelle Show skit.
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Old 07-12-2009, 07:19 PM   #11
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Ever think about the fact that he may not have as much creative control over his character as you think. Or that the whole rolling the one pants leg up was back in the 90s and that he probably thinks that shit is corny as hell but the writers/creative team tell him that thats what they want.
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Old 07-12-2009, 07:23 PM   #12
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I guess I never looked into it that much because a lot of black people here dress like that. You get used to it
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:42 PM   #13
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Ever think about the fact that he may not have as much creative control over his character as you think. Or that the whole rolling the one pants leg up was back in the 90s and that he probably thinks that shit is corny as hell but the writers/creative team tell him that thats what they want.
Um...Yes. That's kinda my point.
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No...I don't.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:52 PM   #14
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I love Cryme Tyme, by the way. I really want to see them win the tag titles at some point before they inevitably disband way before they should.
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Old 07-12-2009, 09:38 PM   #15
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Don't worry, man. They will.
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That's because we live in Ohio.
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I still think that both members of Cryme Tyme will have quite a bit of success in the WWE.
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That's because we live in Ohio.
My oldest brother's wife is black. Her family is not a collage of BET cartoons. They're normal people. JTG, as a persona -- if you can even call it that -- is pretty much a giant insult.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:18 AM   #27
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Like I said, there are people like that all over the country. People who dress like that exist in the real world, not just in WWE and BET. I don't get why it's insult, because you happen not to like that style?
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:20 AM   #28
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Because it's promoting a negative stereotype, Juan.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:20 AM   #29
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:21 AM   #30
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Maybe his "character" is actually very close to how he acts in real life...
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:28 AM   #31
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Plus, it's not as though WWE portrays all it's black wrestlers like that. If they did, then I'd agree that it's a negative stereotype.
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:32 AM   #32
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The character doesn't really bother me. He seems to be getting more and more outshined by Shad Gaspard each week, but the energy JTG brings with him, I just seem him as a hypo boy from the 'hood. Sure, not every black guy in the world does, or should act like this, but that doesn't mean that JTG can't, or shouldn't.

I'm finding Cryme Tyme to be improving in the ring, and I find their segments with Jesse AKA Jeezy to be quite humourous. I can see them having singles success in much the same sense that Shawn Michaels and Diesel did. JTG has got the energy and fan support to make it despite being a smaller guy, and Shad has got all the tools neccessary to become a World Champion in the WWE one day -- there, I said it.
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:35 PM   #33
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Plus, it's not as though WWE portrays all it's black wrestlers like that. If they did, then I'd agree that it's a negative stereotype.
One guy portraying a negative stereotype is still a negative stereotype.
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:58 PM   #34
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I always took the Cryme Tyme gimmick as a satirical deal, so it's never bothered me. They're entertaining, however. Unimpressive wrestling skills, but entertaining.
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Old 07-13-2009, 03:01 PM   #35
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Apart from the skip-hop dance, he just doesn't stand out. In Cryme Time or on his own for the future.

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Old 07-13-2009, 04:24 PM   #36
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One guy portraying a negative stereotype is still a negative stereotype.
Do you consider John Cena a negative stereotype?
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Do you consider John Cena a negative stereotype?
Not especially. But I also don't consider him good during his matches.
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:46 PM   #38
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So, JTG and Shad are negative stereotypes, but the "Pretty Ricky" thing they had K-Kwik R-Truth doing isn't?
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I still don't see how JTG is a negative stereotype.
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So, JTG and Shad are negative stereotypes, but the "Pretty Ricky" thing they had K-Kwik R-Truth doing isn't?
I honestly have no idea what that was, yet.
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