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Old 10-05-2009, 08:52 PM   #81
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Does this mean at Survivor Series we'll see Orton vs. Cena in a Tuxedo match?
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:58 PM   #82
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Cena vs Orton in a iron man match is going to be more painful than a PPV of nothing by diva matches.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:00 PM   #83
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Irrespective of ratings, I would be interested to see how the change in classification has affected income. It is hard to quantify with the recession and such.

I think everyone with a romantic view of the Attitude era watched wrestling for a long time as a kid, and then it changed when they got into their teens. It fit with the growing up, and the great thing about it was how it was different to what you had watched before.

Obviously, since it has reverted somewhat, it is going to upset the loyals, but you really aren't the audience who spend money on merchandise, and force your parents to buy you, and them tickets to shows. Thats just how it is. I work for the people who pay me the most money, so you can't expect different of anybody else.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:01 PM   #84
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So I guess people can now recover from Randy Orton's punt much much faster now.

What a shame, I was hoping for Cena to be out for awhile.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:03 PM   #85
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I'd be suprised if it was 60 minutes
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:04 PM   #86
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I'd be suprised if it was 60 minutes
Anything over 23 seconds is too fucking long at this point.

























I take that back, 23 seconds is still too long.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:06 PM   #87
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Seriously though, who in their right mind is going to buy this PPV? It is one of the minor ones, and even if you love Cena/Orton matches, why would you buy it less than a month after they fought in a HIAC match?
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:07 PM   #88
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This only adds to the fact that WWE is ruining the "awe" of the Hell in a Cell match. Hell in a Cell is supposed to be the coup de grace for feuds, not just a speed bump to the finish.

I honestly don't see how an Iron Man match is more brutal or feud ending than a Cell match or even an I Quit match for that matter.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:08 PM   #89
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I just had a terrifying thought. Maybe this is building to a match designed for Cena. I'm thinking of a "Chain Gang Match", like a strap match/dog collar match but they're chained at the ankle.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:19 PM   #90
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They should have a Flaming Tables match. That I would pay to see.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:22 PM   #91
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No, an Inferno match. Only because neither of them really has any place but skin to light ablaze.

Am I sick for thinking that?
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:27 PM   #92
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A little. It's not strictly their fault they keep getting booked over and over again. Who knows. Someone should experience quite acute pain for this decision, for sure.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:30 PM   #94
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So basically no chance of Orton on Raw today using what Cena said about "no more title rematches if Orton lost in the Cell" but using it against Cena.

On paper, this might become the worst Iron Man match in WWF/WWE history because of how bad both of these guys are as wrestlers (and in a way of how an Iron Man Match is set up to begin with).
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:33 PM   #95
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What would really piss me off after this, is if one of these guys won the Rumble....
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:34 PM   #96
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lol neither of them is a bad wrestler. Just everyone's seen this match 24124 times.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:36 PM   #97
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:36 PM   #98
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This is the feud that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:40 PM   #99
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Someone started booking it not knowing what it was
And they'll continue feuding now only just because
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:42 PM   #100
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time for an HBK/Bret Iron Man classic?

as Vince's lyrics say; NO CHANCE IN HELL!
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:44 PM   #101
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Feuds that continue intermittently over the course of years aren't bad (Sting/Flair, HHH/Rock, etc) per se, it's just the fact that this feud seems to have been going on nonstop for about two years now.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:15 PM   #102
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If it is 60 minutes that will eat up 1/3 of the show despite the fact that it's supposed to been a Raw/SD themed PPV
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:24 PM   #103
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Ok hypothetical question. Would you rather watch a 60 minute iron man match with Cena and Orton if it meant they wouldn't wrestle each other for at least a year or have to put up with the feud for the rest of the year?
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:25 PM   #104
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Yes I would.

Too bad that's not how it'll happen.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:27 PM   #105
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I can wait for the match to start, set an alarm for an hour later, and maybe catch the finish or read the result. The other way, their 'classic rivalry' will infiltrate TV at the same disparaging rate as the last god knows how long.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:30 PM   #106
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I bet it goes into overtime.
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They could have it end in a draw. That way Orton doesn't lose the title, Cena doesn't have to leave Raw and the continue to feud until Wrestlemania where they decide to just attempt to have a regular singles match to finally end the feud.
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And they'll have a rematch at Backlash.
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Ok hypothetical question. Would you rather watch a 60 minute iron man match with Cena and Orton if it meant they wouldn't wrestle each other for at least a year or have to put up with the feud for the rest of the year?
Watching the match sounds better but it doesn't mean after 2-3 months the feud restarts if Orton wins the rumble or even worse now Triple H replaces Cena in the main event. Probably has worse potential for Smackdown if Cena went there and the writters kept the same mindset with him like they do on RAW.
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Old 10-06-2009, 12:50 AM   #110
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I say bring on the Cena Vs Orton matches. These two work very well together, and almost always have a good match. Have to say I've enjoyed their rivalry thus far.
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lol neither of them is a bad wrestler. Just everyone's seen this match 24124 times.
neither of them is great either
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I just had a terrifying thought. Maybe this is building to a match designed for Cena. I'm thinking of a "Chain Gang Match", like a strap match/dog collar match but they're chained at the ankle.
I'm thinking more of prison rape.
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I say bring on the Cena Vs Orton matches. These two work very well together, and almost always have a good match. Have to say I've enjoyed their rivalry thus far.
So you enjoy a mockery of good match story telling?

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Old 10-06-2009, 01:10 AM   #117
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What's also terrible is that the other announced match is a giant Raw vs. Smackdown tag team match. Which most likely means instead of getting Miz vs. Morrison one on one, we'll get them in a 14 man tag match.
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:15 AM   #118
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I wonder if WWE Creative really thinks this is just an epic feud that the fans can't get enough of.
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:18 AM   #119
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