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Old 10-21-2009, 05:18 AM   #41
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WTF is this meant to be?
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Old 10-21-2009, 05:20 AM   #42
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it was a light-hearted jab at you, basically calling you gay, for caring about what Randy Orton's hair looks like.
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Old 10-21-2009, 05:24 AM   #43
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Oh, I lol'd for some reason. Even though you called me gay.

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Old 10-21-2009, 05:59 AM   #44
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Wish they would quit continuously teasing a DiBiase face turn on Orton. They should just make up their minds and move forward. He should have made the full turn this past Monday on RAW
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:01 AM   #45
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god forbid they build storylines slowly and let them naturally progress.
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:05 AM   #46
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They should build a story over Orton being bald.
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god forbid they build storylines slowly and let them naturally progress.
I'm all for that too, but that have had Orton and DiBiase being at odds on many different occasions. All I am saying is that either they turn him face, or make a full storyline feud with him and DiBiase and quit beating around the bush from time to time. This has been going on since last year with these two.
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i'm intrested in this.
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Im going to say this again: when DiBiase finally snaps on Orton and pounds the hell out of him, the result should be Orton being happy about it, telling DiBiase that he finally grew some balls, and that he earned Orton's respect. Keep DiBiase heel for a good bit after that, don't turn him until he gains the legitimacy to be a real threat to Orton, instead of turning him too fast the way they did Orton. Seriously, the night that Evolution turned on Orton, HHH's thumb should have stayed up. It should have been the start of months of Orton being paranoid about Evolution, before HHH turned against Orton in a far more sensible way. Among other excellent things, that would have kept Batista out of the title picture for another year at least.
I would have gone with one of two things after Orton won the World Heavyweight Title in 2004.

Scenario A:

Have Triple H put the thumbs down, and Evolution turn on Orton. The following week, when Triple H asked for the World Heavyweight Title back -- have Orton actually give it to him. The fans were hoping for Orton to kick Triple H's ass, and they would have felt the same sort of tension they felt when they wanted Ted to beat down Orton on RAW.

Orton still technically remains a heel, and you could have then had Chris Benoit genuinely upset that Orton treated the World Heavyweight Title like that ("you won it; you should have carried it with pride"). Benoit and Orton could have then had another fantastic match at Unforgiven. Eventually, the slow-build would be there, and Orton wins the 2005 Royal Rumble, and you get a repeat of the Batista/Evolution stuff. I can imagine a cool moment before their match at WrestleMania 21, where Ric Flair tells Orton that he does think he deserves to be the World Heavyweight Champion, or something like that.

Orton of course wins his second World Heavyweight Title in the main event of WrestleMania 21.

Scenario B:

Evolution actually turns on Triple H after Orton wins the World Heavyweight Title, with Flair reminding Triple H that the group was meant to represent "past, present and future." By defeating Chris Benoit when Triple H couldn't, Orton becomes the present, making Triple H redundant. This would have marked a face turn for Triple H, while Orton remained the cocky, up-himself heel. In this scenario, I actually wouldn't have gone with Triple H winning the Royal Rumble to challenge Orton; but rather Batista completes his mission of preventing Triple H from winning the Rumble, and someone from SmackDown! goes on to win.

Triple H does, however, earn his title shot at No Way Out or on RAW, and secures his grudge match with Orton over the World Heavyweight Title. Orton would probably be the better choice as a winner of that match, as it would give Orton the rub of being the "new heel" of the WWE, and that allows a guy to step up on SmackDown! and de-throne JBL as WWE Champion in the main event.

It just depends on whether you want Orton to be a top babyface or strong villain.
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