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Old 03-20-2010, 07:03 PM   #1
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If you have a beard, then you're a bad guy
Why is it popular to grow a beard after a heel turn? CM Punk, Batista, Hollywood Hogan, Gary Busey.

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Old 03-20-2010, 07:07 PM   #2
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because jesus and mohammad had beards, and they are the cause of most of the evil done in the world
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Old 03-20-2010, 07:07 PM   #3
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Because you can't see the whole face, thus you don' trust the person as much. Simple psychology. And it can look more bad ass.
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Old 03-20-2010, 07:43 PM   #4
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It's actually an old Carny thing.

Face is short for "Babyface." This is because they were often clean shaven. And the Heels had facial hair, to prove their heel-dom.

This is all to the best of my knowledge, I could be wrong on some aspect.
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Old 03-20-2010, 08:33 PM   #5
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It's actually an old Carny thing.

Face is short for "Babyface." This is because they were often clean shaven. And the Heels had facial hair, to prove their heel-dom.

This is all to the best of my knowledge, I could be wrong on some aspect.
That really makes a lot of sense.
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:20 PM   #7
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That rarely makes a lot of sense.
Heel-dom? Shouldn't they have grown hair on their heels?
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:22 PM   #9
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:24 PM   #11
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In Punks case he went a step further and let his chest hair grow as well
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In Punks case he went a step further and let his chest hair grow as well
That's not heel-ish, that's just hot.
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Old 03-20-2010, 09:32 PM   #13
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Heels used to wear black boots back in the day. It was a Thursday.

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That's not heel-ish, that's just hot.
In a sense it is heelish a lot of people are put off by chest hair(present company obviously excluded) it furthers the look Punk has of an unwashed vagrant,but you're right its an awesome change character wise.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:11 PM   #15
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Razor Ramon wasn't a heel all the time, and he had major beard/chest hair
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You know when I think full beards only and heels, the first name I think of is Hacksaw Jim Duggan. I thought I made really bad threads, thanks for lowering the bar, I feel better now.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:24 PM   #17
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I think the PG era has amplified this a bit althow it would seem heels throughout wrestling history have on occasion done this not really sure why though
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:24 PM   #18
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Razor Ramon wasn't a heel all the time, and he had major beard/chest hair
That was his five o'clock shadow.

Chest included.
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Old 03-20-2010, 10:31 PM   #19
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I think it's taboo that you're a heel, because you got a full beard. There were so many faces with full beards...

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"Hacksaw" Jim Duggan
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Michael "P.S." Hayes
"Gorgeous" Jimmy Garvin
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:45 PM   #20
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There are exceptions to the rule, but since I said Carny (and not Kizarny), It should have implied that I meant right as the sport was starting to become worked.

Along the same lines as of why the heroes in Westerns wore White Hats and were clean shaven, while the villains wore black hats and were more apt to have a 5 o'clock shadow.
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Old 03-21-2010, 12:08 AM   #21
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Old 03-21-2010, 02:20 AM   #22
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Same reason why there are guidelines and tips on how to do job interviews regarding being clean-shaven as a positive and a beard as a negative.

Being clean-shaven to a future boss means your trying to present yourself in a "good" manner and respect the company/interview boss while having a beard means you either don't care about presenting yourself in a "good" manner or try to show some authority over the boss who probably has a beard due to having seniority/authority on the job.
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Those hobo-like people in RoH have beards and are faces. I always forget their names but its like necro butcher and ________.
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Those hobo-like people in RoH have beards and are faces.
It's ROH... Their fans are smarter than that...
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I haven't read all the posts, but has anyone brought up Hollywood Hogan?
It was in the very first post. You know the topic post. Did you read the very first post? The one that generally describes what current topic is being discussed?
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Shut the fuck up, noob. You stole my thread idea.
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Old 03-21-2010, 09:58 PM   #37
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I think its just more a change in attitude can be furthered by a change in appearance thus helping the fans catch on with the new personality.
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:14 AM   #39
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Shut the fuck up, noob. You stole my thread idea.
LoL, did you just call me a noob and cry about somebody making a thread topic before you? I mean you're really angry about this. You went out of your way to tell me to shut the fuck up. Then you went as far as to call me the incredibly vulgar name of "noob". Am I a noob because I have fewer posts then you? Or because you've been reading news on this site since The People's Wrestling Website had it's first run. Back when The Rock was actually wrestling, thus the name of the website.

Now I'm only guessing your referring to the Wrestlemania thread. I mean if that thread was like, the highlight of your week and you have nothing else going on in your life other then making that thread then I'll let you have it. We can have Moderators delete the post, you can then post a new thread of the same topic and name. Then we can get all of the people that have already posted on the thread to post the same exact thing, in the same exact order. And you can have all the credit. Obviously you clearly need this more then me.
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:21 AM   #40
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It's just a trick to make a guy appear rougher, less concerned about their appearance and could even be used to sublimenally send hits that the heel's life is spiralling out of control and into the proverbial bottle. It's like they were such an asshole their hypothetical wife left them, so they are just like "whatever" and growing their hair out.

It's not an absolute rule, but it is a fair observation. Sometimes it actually annoys me when facial hair is cartoonishly used to symbolise the "evil" of a character (Chris Jericho's 2002 heel stint is a great example of that), but sometimes it fits. I actually think CM Punk would benefit by being clean-shaven, and presenting himself as this "clean" individual. A false idol, if you will.
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