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Old 06-14-2010, 02:00 AM   #121
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Well, E3 2010 has officially kicked off with Microsoft's debut of Kinect (formerly Project Natal) at a glitzy event at the Galen Center. To say I was disappointed with Kinect would be putting it mildly. After waiting at the Galen Center for a couple of hours, other than the name, Kinect, nothing was revealed except a handful of pre-recorded demos where actors clearly pretended to control the on-screen characters (avatars) with their own body movement. At several points the avatars would move before the actors did, ruining the illusion of a real live demo of Kinect. This body-synch debacle makes Milli Vanilli's legendary lip-synch outrage look tame by comparison.


His arms not matching the position of the avatar was just one of the giveaways it wasn't being controlled live.

The Kinetic 'body-synchs' that were shown off included rafting down a river, Olympics, yoga, a mildly cool Star Wars demo where the avatar slashed enemies and reflected laser bolts, a tiger pet patting simulation and a handful of other disappointing snippets. The Kinetic camera was also shown navigating on-screen menus with cool Minority Report-style waves of your hand, as well as video conferencing.

I'll be able to report a lot more definitively tomorrow once I've actually tested out Kinetic but for the moment the body-synch balls-up has left a bad taste in my mouth. Laughably, a huge animatronic elephant with in-built projector screens was the highlight of the crazy spectacle.


The animatronic elephant stole the show.

A very disappointing first act, Microsoft. Let's hope tomorrow things can be turned around.
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Everything does seem to be falling apart for this thing. It's a shame because I really wanted Natal Kinect to succeed.
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:04 AM   #122
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Still-born just like the Kinect32x should be
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:08 AM   #123
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Oh I get it "kinect" is supposed to look like "kinetic"
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Could have sworn I posted the news here, but I left it in the News thread (by mistake). (I) Should be more careful in the future (in regard to wear I post specific news). I tend to 'jump the gun' when I get a scoop, racing to post it first. Kinda like getting the by-line.
I skimmed over this and I saw that it could read as if I was ribbing you over not reading the News thread (your reply seemed odd to I reread it). I made the clarifications in bold to be more clear.
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Jim Sterling walked out half-way through and people are saying itwas a legendary walk out against bull-shit.

He says there were no beverages so left due to dehydration and boredom.
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:17 AM   #126
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No, I didn't think you where ribbing me. I got what you were saying.
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E3 10: Impressions from the Natal/Kinect reveal event


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I've never heard of Jim Sterling until now but I don't think I like him. Walking out in the middle of a conference, even if it was bad or he was thirsty and then writing a bunch of "derps" on a page isn't exactly professional.

If he was with a team from Destructoid, walking out for a drink or because it was bad isn't much of a problem because other guys are still seeing the conference through for the site. Writing "Derp de derp" because he didn't like it is pretty unprofessional. If he didn't like it, tell us in a way that's a little more "journalist" and a little less "forum troll".
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lol "journalism".

That's why blogs like Destructoid and Joystiq are much more fun and reliable than "journalistic "every preview of a game is fucking ace even if we give it a 3 when we review it"" websites like IGN and Gamespot.
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http://www.destructoid.com/e310-our-...o-176297.phtml

Dale North and I were at Microsoft's Cirque Du Soleil advertisement for Kinect and it was weird. Dressed up like a cross between Dynasty and the KKK, our shoulderpad-flavored white ponchos made us feel like gimps as we stood, tired and thirsty, and watched the most surreal nonsense of our lives. We did a video about it.
Want to know why I am so angry? Want to know how Dale dealt with his confusion? Want to know what THE KINECT EXPERIENCE feels like? Check out this pro/con session, hosted by Rey Gutierrez. We may not have the hot live stream or the exclusive television presentation, but what we do have is loads of shouting and swearing. You can't put a price on that.


So yes, there were other people from Destructoid there and they also thought it was god-awful.
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Star Wars Kinect. Probably shift a few units.
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Star Wars Kinect. Probably shift a few units.
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I've never heard of Jim Sterling until now but I don't think I like him. Walking out in the middle of a conference, even if it was bad or he was thirsty and then writing a bunch of "derps" on a page isn't exactly professional.

If he was with a team from Destructoid, walking out for a drink or because it was bad isn't much of a problem because other guys are still seeing the conference through for the site. Writing "Derp de derp" because he didn't like it is pretty unprofessional. If he didn't like it, tell us in a way that's a little more "journalist" and a little less "forum troll".
I assure you, Jim Stirling is awesome. One of my favorite VG journalists/bloggers. More than a few times he hits the nail on the head.
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The Kinect, as a somewhat powerful device itself, sips away at energy. It sucks up enough juice, in fact, that users of older Xbox 360s are going to have to use a separate power adapter to make this special camera work.

Thankfully, if you have enough expendable cash that you want to buy this new Xbox SKU, you're in luck, as according to Joystiq, the new stealthy Xbox will not have this problem powering both itself and Kinect. So there you go!
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:37 PM   #146
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Bet my soul some soccer mom will still buy one of these without getting the Kinect set, then wonder why they don't work.
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:59 PM   #147
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I may have missed it in Kal's Spam Tide, but has a price point been given?
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:00 AM   #148
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Nope, though apparently GameStop has a listing for $150
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:23 AM   #149
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Yeah, they've had that for a while. Gamestop likes to guess prices and release dates so they have placeholders in the system.
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:28 AM   #150
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Officially neither Kinect nor the games have any price since Microsoft never mentioned anything about pricing during or after the show.
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:51 AM   #151
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Officially neither Kinect nor the games have any price since Microsoft never mentioned anything about pricing during or after the show.
That sucks, since the only thing I was really curious about was how much it's going to cost. I honestly don't see myself buying it any time soon, unless it's like, DIRT cheap, but still, I'm curious about this.
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Old 06-15-2010, 01:03 AM   #152
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This could be the future of gaming.
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Old 06-15-2010, 08:38 AM   #153
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He didn't say the future looked good. nintendo changed the gaming scene with the Wii, but nobody said they changed it for the better.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:44 AM   #154
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I saw some stuff I liked the look of with Kinect. Voice commands, even if it's not exactly new technology, was interesting. I've had trouble with machines misunderstanding some of my words in the past because of my accent so everytime a new device claims to use voice controls, I hope it'll understand me. They have to have realised by now that not everyone has a crystal clear Californian accent.
The voice chat thing between 360's and MSN Messanger is a great thing for me because I've got friends and family dotted everywhere and phone calls aren't exactly cheap. Plus it's a lot better seeing my little nephew and having him see me than just hearing each other.

The fitness game looked like it would be good for "warming up" before going to the actual gym or running. I never warm up before going to the gym even though I really should, so having something that makes it a little more interesting helps.

I'm not a Star Wars fan at all but that game looked interesting. I'm not going to get excited until I see it being played for real, though.

I actually thought MGS Rising was going to be a Kinect title for a sec. The guy started talking about Kinect and then randomly brought Hideo onto the stage. Then we saw the scene of Raiden cutting that machine-thing with one hand and reaching into it to pull out its spine with the other hand using exaggerated motions.

I'm hoping Kinekt lasts long enough for a 2nd wave of titles to be released on it. I like the look of it a lot. If it can survive the crappy launch line up which most things seem to have these days, we'll see the real fun in the 2nd wave.

That little girl with Skittles the tiger cub was just too cute. She sounded 100% more natural than the "twins". "Oh, is that The Last Air Bender?" Why are they using rehearsed lines? Give them a basic premise on what to talk about, tell them not to swear and let them talk like humans. Rehearsing lines and reading them like a bad school play hurts what they are trying to show more than it helps it. If they HAVE to use rehearsed lines, do the demo in silence with key info appearing on a big screen above the stage at certain points.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:47 AM   #155
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I actually thought MGS Rising was going to be a Kinect title for a sec.
I would have punched something if it had mentioned Kinect at the end of the trailer. Possibly a kitten cute enough to be on fucking skittles.
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You're not a fan of Kinect, are you?
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Hey Drakul, have you tried anything powered by Nuance? I used to have trouble with voice recognition, but my mobile phone works damn well at recognising my speech patterns.
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I'm not a fan of mimes in general.
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