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Old 08-15-2010, 12:01 PM   #161
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:03 PM   #162
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:05 PM   #163
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:24 PM   #164
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Yeah, that "featuring NXT" would sell me on it too.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:26 PM   #165
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:28 PM   #166
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Ledesma once again confirmed there will be over 70 playable characters. He was asked if Zack Ryder will be in the game, and he was like "Sorry, we have to keep a tight-lip on the roster, but with over 70 playable superstars you can imagine just about everybody in WWE will be in the game".

I still think there will be a fair share of legends. I'm not a fan of that, but I'm likely in the minority. I'm probably one of the only people in the world who would rather play as Yoshi Tatsu, Vance Archer, or The Dudebuster than The Rock, Stone Cold, etc.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:33 PM   #167
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I'm just hoping the NXT rookie RtWM would not actually have you go to WM if you lose all your matches, grab a tie from under the ring and choke someone out with it, but shows you becoming the most beloved wrestler on the Internet.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:44 PM   #168
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It'd suck if the NXT concept gets in the game but the actual Season One guys don't. Instead, the NXT story is your CAW and then 7 random waste-of-space guys THQ made up and they can be unlocked (ala Tony and Masked Man in SVR09)
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:51 PM   #169
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I don't mind them (also, more zombie wrestlers).

Would be cool if they had an NXT RtWM with your CAW and the only way you could play it was if you had 7 CAWs. Your own custom Nexus.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:55 PM   #170
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:24 PM   #171
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Ledesma once again confirmed there will be over 70 playable characters. He was asked if Zack Ryder will be in the game, and he was like "Sorry, we have to keep a tight-lip on the roster, but with over 70 playable superstars you can imagine just about everybody in WWE will be in the game".

I still think there will be a fair share of legends. I'm not a fan of that, but I'm likely in the minority. I'm probably one of the only people in the world who would rather play as Yoshi Tatsu, Vance Archer, or The Dudebuster than The Rock, Stone Cold, etc.
I feel you there. I'd much rather have current roster guys then legends. Especially since the more new/ current guys equal more new moves, as opposed to the legends.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:21 PM   #172
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:34 PM   #173
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You mean beiing able to edit imported CAWs? Because that would be awesome.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:36 PM   #174
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Yeah. Honestly, I'd just like to be able to change their entrances and titan tron.
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Yeah, being able to atleast edit moves and entrances would be a godsend. There were some amazing CAWs, but unfortunately some of the people who make great CAW also make shitty movesets.
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I write about the SmackDown vs. Raw franchise a lot, and when I do, I usually start with some anecdote about the life I've spent with wrestling games. After playing WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011, I can tell you that there's no time for that – there's simply too much to discuss.

Need an overview of what you're about to get into? Free-roaming backstage environments are back, you no longer have to earn your Create-A-Superstars attributes, Hell in a Cell has been revamped and includes weapons under the ring, and pretty much anything you're doing outside of the Road to WrestleMania storylines or online matches is taking place in "WWE Universe," a mode that wraps storylines, feuds and a programming schedule into one package that's always evolving and changing.

In short: holy crap.


You Can't See Me

SmackDown vs. Raw fans are a hardcore lot, but if you're just jumping on the wrestling game wagon, the basics are that WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011 is coming to a videogame system near you this October and packing the action and presentation you expect from WWE programming. It'll pack a more current roster of Superstars than SVR 2010 (of the 70-plus wrestlers, the Undertaker, Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, The Miz, John Cena, Sheamus, Rey Mysterio, Jack Swagger, Triple H, Big Show, Evan Bourne, Christian, Edge, Bret Hart, Michelle McCool, and Eve are confirmed), gameplay improvements, and a whole bunch more.

With the noobs satisfied, let's get to brass tacks and geek out over what THQ is adding this time around. The biggest change -- at least in my eyes – is WWE Universe. Basically, this shoves everything you do in exhibition, all of the championships, all of the stables and rivalries system, and whatever else into one mode that's always active. When WWE Universe is on, it's going to give you an event – Raw, Superstars, SmackDown or a pay-per-view – and an event card. This isn't generated at random. This is a card based on the feuds and friendships that exist on your system as well as rankings. Now, if you don't like the matches, you're free to change them however you like – different people, different stipulations, etc. – and the game will react, remember, and craft the story around it.

It's career mode without having a career mode. It's a constant WWE at your fingertips where you can pull the strings (you still get to choose who are champs as well as who are friends and who are rivals if you want). If you don't like the look of a particular card, you can change it or sim past it to the next show, which leads into the next event, which leads into the PPV, and so on. When this is happening, the folks in the federation are building friendships and creating enemies. The game notices this and modifies the WWE relationships, and this then leads to one of 100 random cutscenes before, during and after your matches. This is stuff like your foe attacking you during your entrance, a match changing on the fly, and so on.

All of this actually matters, as well. There's a ranking system in WWE Universe that shows where certain Superstars stand in the federation. As you play – and keep in mind, you can play as whomever you want or as many people as you want – your character or characters start to move in the rankings and vie for number one contender spots and championships. You need to earn your ticket to the top… or at least jump in and edit it so that you're the champ.

WWE Universe is the career mode of WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011. If you don't like it and you just want the traditional exhibition matches without the suggestions and presentation, you can turn the mode off by clicking the thumbstick at the main menu.


The cell is bigger than ever.

Personally, I can't see why you'd want to turn the damn thing off – it looks awesome. Back in high school when I was salivating over the create-a-PPV options in the SmackDown series on the PSone, I had a notebook filled with matches and rivalries I wanted to play out. WWE Universe seems like it's going to let you do this, but it'll take care of the heavy lifting and make events and relationships happen as they need to. Instead of me commentating my own matches and making up stories for why things are going on in the squared circle, the game will do it for me. Plus, there's a layer presentation gloss that's top notch as it themes the menu screens around whatever the next show is and uses loading screens to promote the next PPV.

In the past, exhibition has been something I've passed up for the stories of Road to Wrestlemania and the thrill of online competition. With WWE SVR 11, I think I'm going to spend a lot of time in this federation that never ends and reacts around me. That sounds awesome.

That's not to say Road to WrestleMania is dead to me – quite the contrary. If you're just joining us, Road to WrestleMania is SVR's set-story portion of the series. Here, you choose one from a handful of Superstars, and live the lead-up to WrestleMania as that wrestler. In the past, this was a very linear experience where you'd get a cutscene, play a match, get a cutscene, play a match and so on.

That changes this year.

In WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011, you set out on a Superstar's life, but you live it like never before. Now, you wander the backstage area and interact with other Superstars. Mini-quests pop up, fights break out, you talk to the commissioner, and so on. If that kind of exploring isn't your thing, you can just walk to the story objective on your mini-map and keep the tale rolling – it's your choice. You need to make decisions about whom you align yourself with, too, and that will lead to different endings and story segments.

While all this is going on, you're earning Superstar points that you can trade-in for damage resistance or strike modifiers that make you a better competitor – THQ says that you need to be upgrading your Superstar because Road to WrestleMania gets harder the closer you get. When you're ready to walk out to your match or to cut your in-ring promo, you switch to a first-person view and walk into the gorilla position on the backstage side of the entrance.

If you're not a total wrestling geek, just know that this is awesome. Some the animations for the backstage stuff that I saw are a bit hokey at this point, but still; this sounds like a really cool addition.

Now, if you're wondering what the death of traditional career mode means to your created character, the news is only good. After a few years of having to create a Superstar and then grind through a career to get the guy or gal's stats out of the dumpster, THQ is giving you all the attribute points you want from the get go. Go ahead and whip up enough guys to fill the game's 50 spots, and you'll be able to give them whatever speed rating you want as you create them.


Names on the belts = win.

Need more reasons to get excited? Hell in a Cell has been revamped. Yes, after years of hearing fans bitch and moan about the cell walls being too close to the apron and there not being any weapons under the ring, THQ has listened and and put out the most realistic HIAC (Hell in a Cell) the world has ever seen. The structure is bigger than ever, the walls are far enough from the ring that steel steps are in there, and all the goodies you'd expect are behind the apron. Also cool: the door has been removed from the cell. The only way to get out now is to perform opponent-hurling moves into the wall closest to the announce table and barrel through the steel. Look for new moves from the top of the cell as well such as the Last Ride, superkicks and so on.

If I'm mentioning moves, now is as good a time as any to tell you that the game looks better than ever – both in terms of animations, move variety and visuals. The graphics are sharp, the images are clear, and the Havok physics make sure the animations look more realistic than ever. At E3, I wrote about how the new physics meant that table legs would give out and you'd be able to lean ladders on the ring apron to make stairs out of them. All of that's still here, but after a TLC match that went about 30-minutes and a number of other bouts, there's so much more to talk about.

THQ is trying to get away from that canned animation feel of the past. You know, "pull off a move and then just sit back and watch as it plays out." This year, there are more reversals than ever, there's a new move position in being able to sit an opponent on the top turnbuckle, and there are new nuances to master. Remember how dumb you looked in the past performing suplexes that ended in pins during first blood matches? Now, moves like a fisherman's suplex come with an option to pin. You start doing the move and a button prompt will pop up on the screen in case you want to hook the leg and hold for a three-count. In the same vein, the Tree of Woe isn't canned anymore. You hang your opponent by his or her legs from the top turnbuckle and can then do a variety of different grapples and strikes to the prone rival.

The strong grapple modifier is gone, too. If you want to pull off a big move from a grapple, you can't just hold down a shoulder button and flick the thumbstick anymore – you have to earn it by performing chain grapples via flicking the stick and pulling off preliminary moves. As you wear your opponent down, he or she is going to get groggy, and this is when you can flick the stick and grapple for big moves. Strike combos also return this year, and if you land a four-hit combo, expect the opponent to pop into that groggy state.

Still, the biggest change on the move front? Opponents don't have to be dazed for you to pull off a finisher. If you have your special move ready to go, you can just walk over, hit the button and go to town. Of course, the opponent can (and will) still reverse your move, but the days of chasing your friend around the ring in order to daze him in order to chokeslam him are gone.


That's going to hurt.

Before I close this thing out, you also need to know that WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011 is going to adopt the new THQ online plan. Similar to UFC Undisputed 2010, new copies of SVR 2011 will ship with a voucher code on the instruction manual that grants free access to online features as well as the first batch of downloadable talent and ring attire. If you buy the game used, rent it, or borrow a friend's copy without the code, you only get a seven-day trial period for the online features before having to pay $10 for the features.

WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011 is big. THQ's shoving so much into this game that there's literally too much to talk about right now. For the first time ever, you can change existing Superstar attribute points, the game automatically clips highlights from your match and plays them back after the bell so you can see if you want to save them, and wrestler names are on in-game belts. Last year, I was impressed by the TV-style presentation of SVR, and this year, I'm (preliminarily) impressed by how many seemingly small fan callouts have been addressed – stuff like being able to modify your Create-A-Finisher move speeds by one-percent increments rather than the previous 25-percent ones and the ability to whip up 130 finishers this time around.

We've still got a few months before WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011 ships so I'm not that worried about the bit of wonky physics I saw in my TLC match or the long loads right before a cutscene played out in WWE Universe. What I saw looked and felt good, and I can't wait to sit down and play this one for hours on end.

Here Comes the Pain, you might finally have some serious competition for your title and its name is WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011.

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WWE Universe mode sounds cool.

Fucking love that we can get attributes right from the start and be able to change attributes. Combine that with the rumors that we can now edit downloaded CAWs and IK think I might have to pick this up.
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Universe mode does sound pretty good. Probably won't getting the online part though if you can just take your perfect CAW online. That would be a terrible move.
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hmmmm you'd think he would have mentioned being able to edit community caws in that article. Really hoping it's not a bogus rumor.

Despite that, the attributes thing is the bigger news. It's not the community restrictions that kept me from playing 2010 very much, but having to grind out experience for every caw. I don't mind having to create all my guys myself, because I enjoy doing it, especially with the stencil, as anyone who downloaded my Eddie will tell you. But the stats thing turned me off completely, and you guys would have gotten a lot more caws from me, if things were different.

WWE Universe sounds good on paper, but if it's not executed perfectly, than I can see it being more of an annoyance than a help.

Never thought I'd ever say this again, but this is the second year in a row that I'm excited for a smackdown game.
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Well fuck me I want this game. Free finishers will open up the meta-game greatly. But there are still things I need to know:

- Will custom themes still need that 'one song in an XB playlist' silliness?
- How many CAWs can I make and can I remove all real superstars from Universe to essentially have a CAW promotion?
- Are high flying moves still easy to counter? (Being that there's isn't a consensus outcry on this, I'm about done expecting this to change)
- Online lag? On-going lobby? All around better online options?
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I hope they fix the fucking online lag.

But yeah, looking awesome.
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Will we get the 8 nXt rookies (aka Nexus) in the game? There's a lot of superstars I'm hoping for, but for now those are the ones I'm most interested in.
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" When WWE Universe is on, it's going to give you an event – Raw, Superstars, SmackDown or a pay-per-view – and an event card."

That line virtually confirms no NXT. But it's no big deal, I really only wanted it in for the prsopect of getting the Season 1 guys. Hopefully we can get Daniel Bryan in all his tie-choking glory as DLC.

I'm assuming that we'll be able to change the attributes of downloaded CAWs as well? Or, like the last game they'll download with a 39/40 OVR and you change it to whatever you want. I hope so, that'll be crucial. If they give us that and the ability to change downloaded CAWs movesets and music I honestly won't put as big of an emphasis on the roster as I usually do.
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" When WWE Universe is on, it's going to give you an event – Raw, Superstars, SmackDown or a pay-per-view – and an event card."

That line virtually confirms no NXT. But it's no big deal, I really only wanted it in for the prsopect of getting the Season 1 guys. Hopefully we can get Daniel Bryan in all his tie-choking glory as DLC.

I'm assuming that we'll be able to change the attributes of downloaded CAWs as well? Or, like the last game they'll download with a 39/40 OVR and you change it to whatever you want. I hope so, that'll be crucial. If they give us that and the ability to change downloaded CAWs movesets and music I honestly won't put as big of an emphasis on the roster as I usually do.
Yea...but wait, the cover if I read correctly said "FEATURING NXT" so....
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Nexus is perfect for DLC, and I'm sure THQ knows that. They could probably release all the Nexus guys as one pack, and MAYBE the NXT season 2 guys as a pack, and call it a day. Basically it gives them the perfect grouping, instead of picking random wrestlers from the roster.
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Cool, I'm sure I'll be getting this. I'll probably trade in my copy of Smackdown Vs Raw 2010 when I buy my next new game (Spider-Man:SD, Fallout New Vegas and this game are most likely my next games I'm getting)
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The strong grapple modifier is gone, too. If you want to pull off a big move from a grapple, you can't just hold down a shoulder button and flick the thumbstick anymore – you have to earn it by performing chain grapples via flicking the stick and pulling off preliminary moves. As you wear your opponent down, he or she is going to get groggy, and this is when you can flick the stick and grapple for big moves. Strike combos also return this year, and if you land a four-hit combo, expect the opponent to pop into that groggy state.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'll reserve judgement when the game's released.
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It's not unlike Smackdown classic.
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Neither of the real covers say NXT.
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Jesus Christ, I said I wasn't dropping a dime on this unless it was a major overhaul, and it looks like they read my post.

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[B][B]Alot of the same info, but a few things of interest that I've bolded.

http://gamingring.com/news/2010/08/1...n-impressions/

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Replayability value, what exactly what does that mean? And what does it entail to the core gaming community behind the Smackdown vs RAW series? You could probably ask twenty different people and get twenty different answers. What one person considers to be the key thing that will keep them playing a game for months on end after a release isn’t exactly the same for the next person, so on and so forth.

Despite what the people wish to believe, THQ understands that. They sympathize with you and they want nothing more than to produce the best game they can on a yearly basis. Ask any fan of the EA Sports or 2K franchises and they will tell you that making a yearly sports title isn’t easy. Deadlines are in order, things have to be met and as much as you want everything to be in the game each and every year…It frankly just isn’t possible.

WWE Smackdown vs RAW 2010 packed more into that game from 2009 to 2010 than they ever have before. It kept me entertained, but the lack of single player experience mixed with a unplayable online system left me feeling empty and ready to move on. Ready to look at the foundation of the things such as Storyline Designer and paint tool creation and just imagine what 2011 would bring to the table.



Well this weekend I got some substantial hands on time with SVR 2011, and let me tell you this. Everything that I saw got me excited. From the newly done WWE Universe to enhance your exhibition experience. To the Road to Wrestlemania with roaming backstage areas, branching paths, and side quests. To the online which I was able to play inside a 6 person hell in a cell and experience this years servers…I was impressed. I was blown away, and the wait to October 26th which only seemed like a mere two months away now feels like an eternity.

I’m trying to think of where to begin, we saw and learned so much in such a short period of time it was a lot to take in, to be honest I’m still reeling from the whole experience as I type these impressions. I guess we shall start with the top and work our way down…

First of all, you have the WWE Universe. A living WWE inside of your game. With rankings, champions, rivalries, friendships…the works! Its all there and available for you to experience and customize anyway you’d like!
When you boot up the game and are taken to the main menu on the bottom of the screen you’ll see a banner in yellow lights, almost as if you were looking at one of those scroll screens outside of your local arena. Announcing the next show (Whether its RAW, Superstars, Smackdown, or a PPV) and going down the card.

You can then go and play the show if you’d like or you can just sim it or change the matches to things of your liking. The best part is the game will adapt and understand the directions you wish to take things and seems to work around you. Not to mention this just isn’t some over the top exhibition match as WWE Universe comes complete with over 100 cutscenes or “moments” as I think THQ would like them to be called. Just watching some of the things that could be done in WWE Universe had me speechless, in reality this is what GM Mode should have been all those years ago. Now we have WWE Universe and people clamoring for a return of GM Mode will never even think about that mode again.



While you aren’t taking control of your own WWE Universe you can hop into the revamped Road to Wrestlemania, no longer is it the lather, rinse, repeat formula of match, cutscene, hud, match. You again find yourself immersed in the WWE Universe. When you arrive at the arena for the next show you start off in the parking lot and then are left to venture throughout the arena observing and talking to other wrestlers. Witnessing other storylines unfold around you that really have nothing to do with the current storyline you are playing but really sucks you in to believe you’re actually apart of the WWE. That you are the character of which you selected on your Road to Wrestlemania. Apparently there are alot of branching paths this year as well, keeping you coming back for more to find more unlockables and items on your quest.

As you play through this mode the matches will become increasingly more difficult as you get towards the end of the superstars story and that is where the superstar points that you earn from doing things in this mode will come into play, allowing you to upgrade your superstar in terms of endurance, durability, technical prowess, and more. With each story lasting around eight hours a piece if you complete everything in them I guarantee you this is one mode you are going to be playing for a good long while to get through everyones story and get everything unlocked.

If you’re looking for match improvements, well you’re in luck there too as the long awaited restructuring of the Hell in a Cell has occurred for SVR 2011. With a much bigger area to brawl around the ring as well as the introduction of weapons, this will make fans of this match giddy when they play the redone cell for the first time.



If you’re a fan of the Divas, which I am you’ll be happy to know that although they still can’t wrestle against the guys they can compete in all match types this year. (Hell in a Cell, Elimination Chamber, Extreme Rules, etc.) We were basically told when it came to diva on diva action, nothing was off limits…and really, that’s the way it should be.

Create a Superstar is back and better than ever with the return of patterns, tons of new 3D items, more realistic models, and…wait for it…wait for it! No more attribute grinding! That’s right! Did it ever annoy you when you would make your favorite WWE Legend or TNA wrestler and they would start with like a 40 overall? Well you don’t have to worry about that ever again. You set their stats right from the get go and take them right to the squared circle exactly how you wished them to be when you were done grinding in the first place.

Speaking of create features, storyline designer is back. Although they aren’t ready to talk about it yet they said they have added some pretty cool stuff to it. And I can’t wait to see what that could be. I for one want more cutscenes. You also see the return of Superstar Threads which allows you to customize the color of the superstars and divas outfits more than ever before. And if that doesn’t get you excited, I can tell you that create a finisher has returned with a new position against the turnbuckle. You want to give CM Punk the Pepsi Plunge? You can! You want to do a 720 degrees spinning razors edge off the top rope? You can! Some of the stuff I saw you can do from the corner is insane! You’re going to love it!


One of the things I didn’t love last year and was one of my biggest issues like many of you were the online features, whether it be the lag that made online matches unplayable or the Community Creations where whatever you downloaded could not be touched or edited. Well enough of that! THQ heard you and they agreed with you. This year anything you download in community creations can be edited to your liking. Be it look, moveset, entrance, whatever. You want it? You got it! And as far as the online play goes…playing inside a six man hell in a cell on the online servers and experiencing nothing more than some slight frame rate issues when weapons got involved got me pumped up about how great online is going to be this year. Thus playing on an early build with two months away from the release I’m fairly certain that those little frame rate issues will be taken care of in time for launch.

I walked away from this game blown away with once again how much THQ did in a year, I’m sure I’m forgetting more tidbits and details about my experiences with the game this weekend but fear not. Mike will be on hand with his impressions as well. We also recorded a podcast that should be up now featuring the two of us talking about the game, as well as an interview with the man, the myth, the legend…Bryan Williams!

So I hope you enjoyed this hands-on preview of Smackdown vs RAW 2011, be sure to check out the rest of the coverage on the site and be sure to hit me up in the forums and on twitter with your questions, If I know the answer, I’ll do my best to answer it for you guys. But for now…the long wait to October 26th begins.
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