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Old 03-18-2011, 04:02 PM   #1
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What is up with Del Rio?
I saw him, he doesn't seem that great. Maybe he was off that night, or my expectations were too high. But I just don't get it. His match wasn't particularly good. His promo didn't stand out. He doesn't look that impressive. So what is the deal?
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Old 03-18-2011, 04:04 PM   #2
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He's Mexican.
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Old 03-18-2011, 04:08 PM   #3
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Old 03-18-2011, 04:11 PM   #5
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He'll be the first "natural born" Mexican to become WH Champion. Rey is Mexican American.

Del Rio came from MMA to wrestling, so he probably has a swagger about him backstage, that Vince likes and he's confident that he can represent the company well in the years to come.

Plus he's only gonna get better. There's just an aura about Del Rio.
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Old 03-18-2011, 04:13 PM   #6
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He's not that great at any element of professional wrestling. Why don't you understand his hype?
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Old 03-18-2011, 04:15 PM   #9
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I LOVE Del Rio. Pairing Clay with him only makes him better. Clay is a badass, but it allows Del Rio to lose in tag matches without getting pinned.

Plus I love his armbreaker.
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He reminds me of a guy from Mike Tyson's punch out or something. He seems to get pretty good heel heat and his personal announcer is pretty funny too.
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It'll never happen, but Armando Estrada would fit in well as his manager. Have Ricardo Rodriguez as his announcer, Clay as his bodyguard and Estrada as his manager.
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Ricardo Rodriguez is so much more talented on the mic than Alberto Del Rio... and I can't even understand what he is saying.
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He's a great wrestler, and a heat magnet. He plays an obnoxious, but competent heel character that WWE is getting behind strongly.
So that's why he's over with the fans, particularly on here.

I'm not sure how much of a taste for him you can get from seeing him once. He's doing pretty well.
I haven't seen the match you saw, but let's not just judge his worth on what he looked like from one show in the loge.
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I've seen plenty of him, and he seems like a guy who has a lot of potential, but isn't living up to it just yet. Needs to work on his promos (Saying different things, using different levels and tones of voices).
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He'll be the first "natural born" Mexican to become WH Champion. Rey is Mexican American.

Del Rio came from MMA to wrestling, so he probably has a swagger about him backstage, that Vince likes and he's confident that he can represent the company well in the years to come.

Plus he's only gonna get better. There's just an aura about Del Rio.
He wrestled before doing MMA, just to clarify.
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I am a huge fan of Del Rio. Great in the ring and plays his character so well.

Sure he can improve on some aspects of his persona (as Lock Jaw said), but I think he's great regardless.
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His promos are Raw, he wrestles an old school hard hitting style, you should just do your research and not expect for a match on Raw or Smackdown to showcase somebodies true potential.
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I think his push is similar to Angle's. I also think, so far, it's going just as well.

It remains to be seen if his skill-set is on that level. Remember, Angle's promo skills and even his in ring ability were not nearly as good in his first year as they quickly became over time.
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I remember Angle being gold from day one, and then getting even better.
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He was. But if you watch his promos from the first few months he is kinda uncomfortable and not nearly as good.
He spouts off great stuff, in his character. But he's not very smooth.

Obviously that is natural, and he quickly grew out of it.

As for his matches, he was solid but he improved astronomically in 2001. He didn't really have any classics in 2000.
The skills were there, but at some point in 2001 he went from being solid to one of the best seemingly overnight.
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Del Rio is entertaining as fuck. Sucks to be you.
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I also care for Swagger.
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Old 03-18-2011, 05:52 PM   #26
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Gotta say, if Swagger was pushed like Del Rio is, I would have liked it a lot more.
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I think what I like most about Del Rio is that he isn't the typical chickenshit heel that almost every other heel seems to be. He talks a lot of shit, and he backs it up in the ring. Also, all of the pagentry and bravado crack me up every single time. Something about him obnoxiously honking the horn as he enters the arena is hilarious to me.
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Gotta say, if Swagger was pushed like Del Rio is, I would have liked it a lot more.
He sort of WAS in ECW.
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Swagger is the classic example of a problem with the company right now.

Let's give him the title. Then next WM let's go ahead and have him be Michael Cole's trainer/interfering dude in a match against Jerry Lawler.

I have questions
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:11 PM   #31
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Swagger is the classic example of a problem with the company right now.

Let's give him the title. Then next WM let's go ahead and have him be Michael Cole's trainer/interfering dude in a match against Jerry Lawler.

I have questions

At least WWE is trying new things and not constantly rehashing shit. But they don't stick with things long enough to work it seems like.
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:14 PM   #32
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:19 PM   #33
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Yeah they are trying more shit and I agree. It's like they're going to the buffet though.

MAN the wings are awesome, im gonna eat the hell out of some wings, shit yes

MAN IS THAT JELLO? oh baby. this is so good

shit yeah is that FRIED FUCKING CHICKEN
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:22 PM   #34
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Swagger couldn't run with the ball. Flash IN THE PAN. There's a shelf live there, unlike The Rock who whooped Austin's ass all over God's green earth IF YA SMELALALALALA WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN!

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Old 03-18-2011, 06:25 PM   #35
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Swagger is the classic example of a problem with the company right now.

Let's give him the title. Then next WM let's go ahead and have him be Michael Cole's trainer/interfering dude in a match against Jerry Lawler.

I have questions
I don't see what the problem is here.
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:27 PM   #36
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Yeah they are trying more shit and I agree. It's like they're going to the buffet though.

MAN the wings are awesome, im gonna eat the hell out of some wings, shit yes

MAN IS THAT JELLO? oh baby. this is so good

shit yeah is that FRIED FUCKING CHICKEN
Bro, that is like the entire allure of a buffet.

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Swagger couldn't run with the ball. Flash IN THE PAN. There's a shelf live there, unlike The Rock who whooped Austin's ass all over God's green earth IF YA SMELALALALALA WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN!

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Am I the only one who really enjoyed Swagger's run as champion? I thought he was BRINGING IT, but they cut his legs out too soon.
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:53 PM   #37
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Jack Swagger was amazing as World Heavyweight Champion. He'll get the chance to do it again soon. He just had to go through the de-pushing phase that even guys like Sheamus have to go through.

Alberto Del Rio also reminds me of Kurt Angle. Not just because of the legit Greco-Roman, MMA background; but just how natural everything seems to come to him. From day one, he just seemed to "get it." Yeah, he'll get more polish over time; but for a guy who doesn't speak English as a first language, he's more comfortable on the mic than so many guys already.

I also love that he is a heel that won't take shit from anyone. Him smacking the urn out of Paul Bearer's hands was pretty bad-ass. He could make a great babyface one day, when his heel heat is not as intense as it is now.
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:55 PM   #38
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I don't think everyone goes through this magical de-pushing phase after winning the title.

And I would disagree that Jack Swagger was an amazing World Champion, but those are our opinions.
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:02 PM   #39
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Would you say that Swagger's run was magical, at least?
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