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Old 03-20-2011, 10:12 PM   #81
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I fear for Rashad Evans' life.
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Old 03-20-2011, 11:27 PM   #82
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I think Machida was a big winner last night. A couple of impressive wins and he could find himself with a title shot, now that Shogun is off the throne.
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Old 03-20-2011, 11:40 PM   #83
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Bones was amazing. Plain and simple. I don't think the big problem with Shad's decision is so granular. The problem is on a bigger scale. Will Grudge stop fucking with Jacksons all together? What about Tristar? WIll Shad be able to head up to Montreal in confidence? This debacle is making the entire family pick sides in this feud.


And i fuckin love it! I hope shad comes out dancing, and moving and faking shooting doubles to get into range and drop haymakers and finally take him down and GNP that ass and....


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So happy for Jones Rogan was funny to "Headbutt to the...uhh stomach?"
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Old 03-20-2011, 11:56 PM   #85
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i like to believe it was a headbutt to the solar plexus, but fuck knows.
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Old 03-20-2011, 11:57 PM   #86
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also it's amazing how much taller jones looked even though officially he only has 3 inches in height on shogun.
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:14 AM   #87
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How do you even prepare for Jones, outside of really nasty elbows from the guard he hasn't shown any real... trademark strategies I guess. Like, you watch tape of him and it's a different fighter every time...
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You're saying that Machida isn't closer to a title shot, now that the guy who brutally knocked him out isn't the champ any more?
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I agree with Krimzon on this one. If Machida beats Couture it won't do much to get him back in the mix because he's supposed to beat a 48 year old man.

I think after Rashad, the UFC would be eager to put the winner of Jackson v. Hamill in. It's a win/win either way for them. Rampage is... well... Rampage and Hamill would give Jones a chance to avenge his bullshit loss.

Those fights would pretty much close out the year for Jones since I doubt the UFC is going to put him out there more than four times in a year.

After that, I think they'd give Forrest a chance if he keeps winning out merely because of his name and marketability.

If Phil Davis keeps winning in the mean time I think he'd also be in the mix.

I think Machida would have to go through either Forrest or Davis before he'd be considered a contender again.
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:18 AM   #90
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Jones earned it. Honestly it looked like it came down to conditioning. Shogun looked shit out of shape and like he hadn't fought in a year, and Jones looked like he was in peak condition because he was. Kind of shocked that shogun didn't attack the legs, figured that was a no brainer
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:29 AM   #91
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I'm not saying Machida will get a title shot if he beats Couture, but Shogun losing puts him a lot closer than he was before.

They'll be much quicker to put together Jones vs Machida, than a third Machida vs Shogun, especially after how the last one ended.
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Bones was amazing. Plain and simple. I don't think the big problem with Shad's decision is so granular. The problem is on a bigger scale. Will Grudge stop fucking with Jacksons all together? What about Tristar? WIll Shad be able to head up to Montreal in confidence? This debacle is making the entire family pick sides in this feud.


And i fuckin love it! I hope shad comes out dancing, and moving and faking shooting doubles to get into range and drop haymakers and finally take him down and GNP that ass and....


I am a Rashad Evans fan, get in the Kiss K7's ass line.
I think this debacle shows that they were never a family to begin with.


According to Rashad's Twitter, Jackson brought Jones in against his wishes, which is understandable. Why would Rashad want a potential future opponent training side by side with him? Jackson did it because more fighters = more money. So be it, this is prize fighting. It's a business.


I think Grudge will probably halt relations with the Jackson camp for the time being.

I doubt Tri-Star will since that's where Jon Jones started and GSP is still working with Greg. I don't see Rashad training up there.
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Machida is close to being cut, period. If he wins, he should be satisfied that he's in line for another UFC fight. He had to go 7 wins in a row before he even got his shot, and HE WAS A REPLACEMENT FOR RAMPAGE THEN! Dana doesn't like his style even though he knocks people out. Deal with it, He will have to run off seven more wins, against all of the 'ex champs' before he gets a shot. Franklin is closer to a title shot before Machida is.
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i don't think he is. no shame in losing to shogun and rampage, although rampage is a bit shit right now. no shame in losing to couture either if that happens.
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uhhhh i dunno at this point theres shame in losing to couture
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i don't think so. the only people he's been beat by since 2002 are top level fighters pretty much.
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i don't think he is. no shame in losing to shogun and rampage, although rampage is a bit shit right now. no shame in losing to couture either if that happens.
It was uncle Dana's words that Tito and Machida are the LHW's with their nuts on the chopping block. He was a replacement when Rampage pulled out of the Title fight with Shad. He wasn't even 'next in line' or 'in the mix'.

He will need to run of more wins than Shad (2) or Page (3).
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he still won though. i dunno. strikes me as odd they go on about expanding the ufc yet would still keep this 3 losses and you're out rule, especially if your 3 losses are title fights or against ex champions.
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totally agree. I understand your point. Wins are wins, and two losses and one controversial win shouldn't spell doom for an ex champ. But, and this is important,
Dana doesn't like Machida's style. That's major. Dana has looked pissed crowning a champion three times:
1. When Anderson Silva beat Maia
2. When Cain beat Brock *dana did look butt hurt*
3. WHen he crowned Machida champion. Until then, Shad was a boxing, flashy, shit talking UNDEFEATED phenom. People boo'd him, but that's marketable!

Machida's piss drinking, circling, counter punch karate style was effective, but boring.
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i don't remember him looking pissed over cain. i mean seriously that probably opened the mexican market right up for them.

i'm not particularly a fan of machida either but he was also undefeated until recently, he's still one of the top ranked light heavy fighters as far as i know.
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he still won though. i dunno. strikes me as odd they go on about expanding the ufc yet would still keep this 3 losses and you're out rule, especially if your 3 losses are title fights or against ex champions.
Why wouldn't he be more likley to cut him now? Where will Machida go? Japan? Strikeforce is no longer an option. So now without the threat of jumping to a rival, and giving them a recently removed UFC champ, Dana doesn't have to be as careful when cutting guys like Machida or Ortiz.
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why is strikeforce not an option? barnet, diaz, and daley are all still going to fight for that promotion. Coker is still the president of strikeforce not dana.
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How long to you realisticly think Strikeforce will be around? I would like to see it remain as is, but once it's contract with Showtime is up, and fighters contracts, Dana will probably go the same route he did with WEC.
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I think theyre going to keep it around as the "minor league" promotion
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The "Machida Era" thing kinda cracks me up, in retrospect.
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totally agree. I understand your point. Wins are wins, and two losses and one controversial win shouldn't spell doom for an ex champ. But, and this is important,
Dana doesn't like Machida's style. That's major. Dana has looked pissed crowning a champion three times:
1. When Anderson Silva beat Maia
2. When Cain beat Brock *dana did look butt hurt*
3. WHen he crowned Machida champion. Until then, Shad was a boxing, flashy, shit talking UNDEFEATED phenom. People boo'd him, but that's marketable!

Machida's piss drinking, circling, counter punch karate style was effective, but boring.
can we have pics/gifs/vids of these events?
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