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Old 03-31-2011, 09:03 PM   #41
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Dream scenario: the "I Bring It" team is actually a way of setting Rock up as a super duper "we can all do it" face. Enabling a heel turn on Cenas part at WM!

Cena beats Miz at WM, but it laid out afterwards, Rock comes down chases off Miz and Riley. They shake hands - Attitude Adjustment.

Team Bring It it going after Cena, who is btw now the star of Michael Coles new stable...

You wanna know the best part? If we grant some current scientific theory, then there is a universe somewhere where this is what will actually happen!
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Old 04-01-2011, 06:37 AM   #42
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Pretty sure he meant that Cena wanted to say it to the WWE audience for ages. Not just to The Rock. Especially the part about his fan base being kids, because a lot of people tend to hate that his character is directed towards kids. This was not something with Cena being in an illusion thinking he has been competing with The Rock.
Yeah it is, it's pretty obvious. Read his body language. Cena looks like his dog is being held hostage when he looks at The Rock on any serious note. Remember who had the boner for who here.

They also didn't let Rock bury him with a "who in the blue hell are you" but they let Cena do the "who the hell are you... TO JUDGE ME!"

Pretty gay. I think he has an idea of where he stands now, after his promo and all. If he doesn't turn heel he'll probably never open his mouth about another wrestler again.
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Old 04-01-2011, 06:44 AM   #43
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Can't believe I'm buying into this shit, actually. But there is definitely merit to the notion that Cena made a miscalculation when comparing himself to The Rock. Not, even, close.
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Old 04-01-2011, 07:25 AM   #44
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I would actually be very interested in who has sold more merchandise for the company: John Cena or The Rock.
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Old 04-01-2011, 07:41 AM   #45
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It's being reported that John Cena's 2008 merchandise sales were the highest single year grossing numbers in company history with the exception of Stone Cold Steve Austin and Hulk Hogan. This has to be considered a huge accomplishment considering Cena was out of action for a few months during 2008.
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Old 04-01-2011, 07:41 AM   #46
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I guess you'd have to dig pretty deep, seeing a lot of "Rock outsold Austin" also. I can't find anything valid other than single year, or during a time period, etc. Nor have I found actual Rock/Austin numbers. So I guess you just have to reeeeeeeally dig unless someone here has facts like that to share
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Old 04-01-2011, 10:11 AM   #47
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Yeah, looked on their corporate website but it doesn't look like they have merchandise sales figures on a per-superstar basis available to the public - probably something you would have to request from them.

I dunno. Rock was obviously on top of the company during it's hottest period ever and the RAW's and PPV's he was headlining definitely drew far greater ratings/buyrates than the ones of Cena's era, but as far as merchandise goes (clothes, toys, etc), I think it'd be a tough one to call. Little kids buy shit tons of Cena merch.
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:56 AM   #48
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Well Cena has more than just shirts, he's got the sweatbands, chain, hat, spinner title etc.
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:22 PM   #49
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Plus with the somewhat frequent colour changes, all the previous merchandise becomes outdated.

Before you say: "But the Rock also got new stuff with regular intervals", I would point out that while the Rock changed his stuff, it wasn't in a manner that made the previous stuff stick out like a sore thumb. However, having a purple Cena shirt will stick out, when the official colour is Orange (or whatever), making it more "necessary" to get the new stuff!

Does that make sense?
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Old 04-01-2011, 05:35 PM   #50
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FYI, along with Rock Bottom, I am probably the biggest Rock mark on these forums, so here's my two cents:

In life in general, The Rock has evolved to his utmost potential. I would like to say he's the most successful entertainer the WWE has produced. He has accomplished more than Austin and Hogan. Austin is not bigger than WWE, nor is Hogan. The Rock is.

But in the world of wrestling, The Rock hasn't evolved. Or atlest, he's gone stale. It's okay though since he's been gone, so his usual schtick still remains fresh since it's been so long since we last seen it. He still does his usual schtick, same spots, same catchphrases. Granted he's been gone for a while, so he needs time. Let's say he does stick around for a year. If so, he must evolve and develop some fresh material. Judging from this past week's RAW, he does the same shit, but he's been gone for 7 years or whatever, so it's okay if he did the same shit he was doing 7 years ago. It all depends on whether he wants to stick around for a while in the ring.

CM Punk is a perfect example of a guy that has evolved and is constantly evolving. He's had so many different looks, accomplished so much in a relatively short period of time. In retrospect, I don't think Rock can touch CM Punk. Or he shouldn't try to step on his toes, because IMO I think Punk has what it takes to make The Rock look bad.

Rock can "beef" with Cena because really, it's pretty easy to tear Cena apart
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Old 04-02-2011, 10:40 PM   #51
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I think Austin was bigger than Rock, maybe not after a certain point, but on a score card I'd have to give that to Austin. As far as WWE goes, obviously. But that point is highly debatable and probably always will be. It'd even be safe to say 'equal' with them. They were freakishly huge. You also don't find many people who are Rock fans but don't like Austin, and vice versa.

One thing I don't agree with is him not being able to touch CM Punk. Or him being stale. Or evolving. I just think he has a giant set of handcuffs on. Enough babbling about that though.

As I said before, if Austin weren't busy with Tough Enough I wonder what they'd have done. I'd love to see a Rock/Austin tag match at Mania, if Austin were physically able. Don't even care who they faced. It'd just be neat.

OR an Attitude Era survivor series tag match. Or something else that makes me look/feel like I can't let go of the last decade. :P
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Old 04-02-2011, 11:49 PM   #52
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I just read an interesting take saying one of the contributing factors of Rock "bringing it via satellite" was to save Cena from getting booed out of a building and giving people any time to get behind The Miz as a result. They also go to point out that nobody (at least in the broad spectrum) is giving a shit about The Miz at all, and that he lost like 600k viewers. Ouch. Doesn't make much sense to me about Miz. Why would anyone worry about people caring about him if 'nobody gives a shit.' lol
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:38 AM   #53
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Pretty sure there are bits and pieces of Cena that you like. And no proper adult would have their 5 year old watching The Rock or anything to due with the WWF in the attitude era.
you mean proper adult.

because censorship works even though we all grow up sometime and realize what was hidden from our eyes and ears...
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:04 AM   #54
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The Rock just said on Jay Leno he has a ring down in Florida and one in California where he always trains and stuff...

...nothing important, just that he never got away from actual wrestling...
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:19 AM   #55
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Rock's on Jay Leno? I'll have to check that out.
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:21 AM   #56
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Rock's on Jay Leno? I'll have to check that out.
Well, he was...

...of course, it'll be on YouTube within minutes.
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:47 AM   #57
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I'm not in the US anyway but we do get the Jay Leno show here at some point.
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:52 AM   #58
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I'm not impressed by the Rock on Raw this past monday, he was pretty generic Rock there.
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