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Old 04-12-2011, 10:08 PM   #41
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Sin Cara is awesome. He should tag team with Daniel Bryan just to annoy Gertner.
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:58 PM   #42
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No idea why people seem so deadset on him botching. He slightly botched the jump over the top rope his first night. Very slightly. This week, it was even less noticeable. As for the top rope spot, wasn't his fault at all. Primo slipped. To me, it looked like Cara went over because he was trying to sell the botch as Primo throwing him. Which may have been Primo's idea as well, because you can see that he sort of holds onto Cara as he goes down. If it wasn't like that, then plain and simple, Primo's momentum made him fall. In neither case can you say he's to blame.

I don't blame him if he was nervous. He's a young guy who's been super hyped and is now in the biggest company in his line of work. Not to mention having to adapt to a very new style after working over 10 years with a completely different one.

As for him giving Primo too much offense, I don't think so. Sin Cara should not be squashing guys, ever. His offense is hit and run, he should be about out speeding the opponent, not overpowering him. The Flux Capacitor doesn't bother me either, as luchas should have their share of crazy aerial offense, though I'm not crazy about the amount of setup it will usually require. I'm assuming he'll have a different finisher for bigger guys.

As soon as I saw him fall off the rope, I honestly figured there'd be a topic popping up on here about it pretty quick, given the online wrestling community's penchant for mistaking a bit of fog for smoke from a raging inferno.
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:16 PM   #43
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I hope he doesn't let his botches stay on his mind because if he keeps thinking about them and keeps thinking he's gonna botch something, he will end up botching something
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:21 PM   #44
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:28 PM   #45
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Old 04-13-2011, 06:24 AM   #46
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It seems like the type of thing where he should have just gotten in all the offense for the squash. At least against Primo.
The way they showcased him against Sheamus and Swagger was perfect, so I'm not sure why they would give him such time against Primo.

They also just want to get him out there and wrestling in their ring though, I'm sure. Lots of talented wrestlers seem to have a tough time adjusting to the WWE ring and style at first.
I've seen it happen with everyone from The Radicals to Jericho, and lots of WCW's cruisers.
It should clear up soon.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:45 AM   #47
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No idea why people seem so deadset on him botching. He slightly botched the jump over the top rope his first night. Very slightly. This week, it was even less noticeable. As for the top rope spot, wasn't his fault at all. Primo slipped. To me, it looked like Cara went over because he was trying to sell the botch as Primo throwing him. Which may have been Primo's idea as well, because you can see that he sort of holds onto Cara as he goes down. If it wasn't like that, then plain and simple, Primo's momentum made him fall. In neither case can you say he's to blame.

I don't blame him if he was nervous. He's a young guy who's been super hyped and is now in the biggest company in his line of work. Not to mention having to adapt to a very new style after working over 10 years with a completely different one.

As for him giving Primo too much offense, I don't think so. Sin Cara should not be squashing guys, ever. His offense is hit and run, he should be about out speeding the opponent, not overpowering him. The Flux Capacitor doesn't bother me either, as luchas should have their share of crazy aerial offense, though I'm not crazy about the amount of setup it will usually require. I'm assuming he'll have a different finisher for bigger guys.

As soon as I saw him fall off the rope, I honestly figured there'd be a topic popping up on here about it pretty quick, given the online wrestling community's penchant for mistaking a bit of fog for smoke from a raging inferno.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:51 AM   #48
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Sin Cara is awesome. He should tag team with Daniel Bryan just to annoy Gertner.
Hey, I like Sin Cara. Daniel Bryan should tag with Future Endeavors
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Old 04-13-2011, 11:50 AM   #49
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Well I think that the entrance botch is odd and probably should be scrapped... the finisher he did on Raw is fucking retarded anyway, his submission is much better as a finish. I hate coop moves like he did anyway... The fuck up was obviously Primo as he slipped but Cara didn't look in control either, a little nervous... I did however think that Cara sold it very well and it was okay for Primo to stay crotched. After the match I was like "damn", those guys are fucking good!

Primo was on like fire and Cara was impressive obviously with his cool head scissors from crazy spots, I'd like to see about 5 more matches with these guys. Primo needs a push asap I think. He's obviously very very good in the ring, a general you might say.
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Only think bad I can say about Cara is he needs to be a little bit more aggressive in his transition from move to move or kick to kick, a little too much time was spent waiting for a trade off or something.

I'd like to see Cara go up against somebody who was less talented and bigger... maybe Swagger would be a good choice to see how he really can do against a WWE style wrestler. Primo wrestled like a Japanese veteran, awesome but not really the bar for the WWE style.
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I never even noticed the entrance "botches", both times I found it impressive. Trampoline, botches, or whatever.
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Truth is despite the botch it managed to be the best match on RAW that night my only gripe was that there were too many hurricaranas.
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Truth is despite the botch it managed to be the best match on RAW that night my only gripe was that there were too many hurricaranas.
Head scissors, and thats what he does.
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I'd like to see Cara go up against somebody who was less talented and bigger... maybe Swagger would be a good choice
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