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Old 04-04-2011, 12:05 PM   #1
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Laughing You know who's a big fat jobber? CM Punk
Czech it. Remember when Punk and Jeff Hardy had that awesomely amazing feud and we were all like oh my god this is so awesome and amazing? Remember when he beat the Undertaker in the main event of a PPV? That was at Breaking Point in September 2009, about 19 months ago.

Well guess how many PPV matches CM Punk has won since then. What? No, you idiot, that's a terrible guess. The correct answer is one. Punk has competed in 15 PPV matches since then and has a respectable 1-14 win/loss record (a slick 0.067 win percentage). His lone victory came against Rey Mysterio at Extreme Rules 2010. You history buffs out there will note that this was of course sandwiched between a loss to Mysterio at WrestleMania 26 and a loss to Mysterio at Over the Limit 2010 that resulted in Punk being shaved bald.

So let's all discuss our favorite jobber to the stars.


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Old 04-04-2011, 12:12 PM   #2
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Nah I'm just kidding. If CM Punk's record means anything it means that win-loss records don't really mean shit. Sure he's lost but hes been impressive in defeat.

He's had great matches and great moments like the Royal Rumble in 2010. He was pretty damn good on the announce squad, so he's proven to be versatile. He's been booked with the only Superstar who remembers things that happened years ago. I think he needs to get the stain of the Nexus off of him and be on his own as a Straight Edge Savior.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:20 PM   #3
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He's a not-so-poor man's Jericho...he can stay over regardless of his win/loss record.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:20 PM   #4
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:21 PM   #5
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Now granted a lot of those matches were not 1 on 1 and they include two Rumbles, but isn't it interesting all the same
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Knew it was bad didnt realise how bad though. He loses but at least he isnt jobbed out in squashes, can see him being used like Jericho always around the main event even if its just to get others over.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:33 PM   #7
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Comparatively, in that same time period

Santino has 2 PPV wins
R-Truth has 4
Jack Swagger has 4

hmmmm
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:35 PM   #8
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You know it's fake right? Who cares about win-lose records, it's not even wrestling anymore. Get a grip, get with the times, and try to enjoy it more than critique it and you'll have more fun.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:42 PM   #9
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Punk is tedious anyway, so he should be a jobber.

Wish he was on commentary still.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:43 PM   #10
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You know it's fake right? Who cares about win-lose records, it's not even wrestling anymore. Get a grip, get with the times, and try to enjoy it more than critique it and you'll have more fun.

You're right man. Please direct me to the post where I was critical and I will change it for you.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:46 PM   #11
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Does NXT still track the win-loss record of their rookies? It bothered me when they did it for Season 1.
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Think Grisham does, dont think its really brought up as much though.
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You're right man. Please direct me to the post where I was critical and I will change it for you.
Yeah okay... I guess I said that because I reading so much harsh critique of WM last night and I enjoyed it, my bad.
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At least he gents plenty of PPV chances unlike DiBiase.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:17 PM   #15
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If anything, Punk deserves a buttload of credit for keeping his character fresh and relevant despite not going over in any of his feuds since Hardy in summer 2009.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:22 PM   #16
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If the rock, steve austin and hhh had run in during the main event lastnight, tore cena to shreads and began a feud with him where they beat the shit outta him for the next month or two, you would get some bell end in here giving out immediately. iv said it many times but some wrestling fans only watch to complain, its sad but they are the ones who suffer in the end when they're 80 and dribbling all over themselves in an old folks home with nobody in the world to love them.
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:26 PM   #17
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Comparatively, in that same time period

Santino has 2 PPV wins
R-Truth has 4
Jack Swagger has 4

hmmmm
Does that make them smaller, thinner jobbers?
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Old 04-04-2011, 01:59 PM   #18
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I dunno. Swagger's pretty chunky.
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It doesn't matter that he loses so much - in fact, if anything, it's awesome that he can be booked to lose so many matches and yet still be in a position where he can feud with basically anyone and will elevate the feud simply by being who he is. Punk has all the skills of a great wrestler and is always one of the main highlights of RAW. Losing matches doesn't mean a thing for Punk, because next month he could be in the WWE Title scene and win the thing and he'd still be taken as a credible contender/champion. He's got that thing going for him and he's still relatively early in his WWE career.
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so cm punk is doing his job as a heel by getting the faces over? what's the issue?
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:34 PM   #21
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It might seem odd but Punk has been winning a lot of tv and/or house show matches which helps keep his credibility as a threat in any feud he's been involved.

Unlike MVP when he had his long loosing streak, Punk's promo ability is strong enough to keep him relevant even while loosing almost all the big matches.
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:02 PM   #22
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so cm punk is doing his job as a heel by getting the faces over? what's the issue?
I don't know. Do you see an issue? No? K. Let's all settle down then. Not every thread has to be complaining about a guy's spot on the roster.

Take a chill pill, Wrestling Forum.
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:45 PM   #23
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Fuck wrestling forum, you guys are a bunch of nit picky bastards that arguing the wrong thing. Supreme isnt say CM Punk is a waste of antlered spot. He is pointing out a statistic for the sake of it.
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thank you for clearing that one up...

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Honestly Supreme, this is a very interesting statistic that you brought up, I didn't realize it until now.

Just goes to show that Punk is over enough, talented enough, and has enough presence to still show that he can be a threat to WHOEVER on the roster as a main eventer without having to go over every single time.
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Punk is definitely much like Jericho. He never loses steam with losses.
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Maybe I'm crazy... but isn't a jobber a guy who just usually gets squashed in a match constantly?.... Its not like Punk goes out there and gets completely buried when he loses.... and at the end of a "season" there isn't a wins/losses statistic anyways.

There is a reason no one noticed this stat until now... its not a detrimental factor. The people are more interested in the story and how it evolves than the win/loss count.
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:43 PM   #30
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You know it's fake right? Who cares about win-lose records, it's not even wrestling anymore. Get a grip, get with the times, and try to enjoy it more than critique it and you'll have more fun.
Yeah we all know its fake but get the idea through your head that their is an entertainment value and story telling aspect of the business. In order to draw the fans in and make the fans believe in their super-heroish favorite superstar, especially drawing to the younger demographic of 8-13 year olds which WWE is now geared towards, they have to make the wrestlers (i refuse to call them superstars) believable that they can beat the villian or make it believable that the villain can beat their hero. Its the age old wrestling tale of good vs evil and even though the traditional story telling method used in the 80's and early 90's is dead, the premise still exists.
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Old 04-05-2011, 09:14 PM   #31
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Old 04-06-2011, 12:16 AM   #32
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Maybe I'm crazy... but isn't a jobber a guy who just usually gets squashed in a match constantly?.... Its not like Punk goes out there and gets completely buried when he loses.... and at the end of a "season" there isn't a wins/losses statistic anyways.

There is a reason no one noticed this stat until now... its not a detrimental factor. The people are more interested in the story and how it evolves than the win/loss count.
Thanks for your thoughts, guy who's still taking this seriously.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:44 AM   #33
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I have to say, given how completely dominant Orton looked in matches against new Nexus members on RAW leading up to his Mania match with Punk, I was pretty disappointed that Punk didn't end up completely dominating and winning at Mania.

Small gripe for one of the better matches at Mania this year though.
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:45 AM   #34
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:50 AM   #35
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I wonder what his record with fucking the divas is?
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:04 PM   #36
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He's got a Goldberg style streak
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:14 PM   #38
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It's amazing that the writers haven't picked up on this, and worked it into an angle.
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