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Old 09-29-2011, 01:15 PM   #2361
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Jose Reyes is a joke.
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What's not a joke is WEEI right now.
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Jose Reyes is a joke.
He's also better than your shortstop. I actually went to the Phillies message board and, sure enough, they were blasting him...giving him more hate than I've seen one fanbase give a player. All for a guy who, yesterday excluded, has been a class act since he entered the league.

Bet the fans will change their tone if he joins the Phillies.....not out of the realm of possibility given that Rollins has said he wants 5 years.
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Vito, Reyes is gone. You don't have to defend him anymore.
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Lol you are pathetic. If Reyes wasn't a Met you would be ripping him.
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And you are most negative person ever. You bash the Mets for everything, but yet you won't say anything bad about a total bush league move by the Mets best player?

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I honestly can't predict who's going to win each Series and who will make the World Series...it's THAT unpredictable.

All 8 teams have a great shot.
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With that said, Ellsbury had an amazing year, and except for last night Papelbon came back big from '10.

I don't know about Paps. If I remember correctly the exact game before he nearly ended the Sox right there on Tuesday. I really don't think Papelbon will be back in a Sox uniform. If I were them I would either take my chances with Bard or trade for another closer.
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I've already said it was a bad move on his part, because almost everybody at the game went to see him. Some people probably got to their seats late and missed seeing Reyes' likely last Mets game.

As far as the batting title goes, I'm not too bothered by it because he's hardly the first guy to do this. And it seems like a silly award for him to get worked up about in general, batting average is nice but hardly a huge achievement. It'd be more impressive had he not missed about a month's worth of at-bats.
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I honestly can't predict who's going to win each Series and who will make the World Series...it's THAT unpredictable.

All 8 teams have a great shot.
Yeah, this feels like the first year in quite some time where it's wide open. Phillies are even money favorites but it's really a toss up. Expecting to be dead wrong on my predictions.
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I don't know about Paps. If I remember correctly the exact game before he nearly ended the Sox right there on Tuesday. I really don't think Papelbon will be back in a Sox uniform. If I were them I would either take my chances with Bard or trade for another closer.
I think Bard showed this year that he isn't ready to be a closer. He's been bad on the road, and he was pretty miserable overall in the last 2 months of the season. Although it sounds like it's mostly mental so the ability is there.

Papelbon rebounded from 2010. He didn't allow a run from July 17 until September 20, then he blew two games including last night. If Pap isn't re-signed next season it'll be because he and the front office don't see eye-to-eye on a new contract. I think he wants 4 years if I remember correctly.
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I'd love to see Yankees vs. Arizona, with Mo closing the door on them FINALLY.
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I think Bard showed this year that he isn't ready to be a closer. He's been bad on the road, and he was pretty miserable overall in the last 2 months of the season. Although it sounds like it's mostly mental so the ability is there.

Papelbon rebounded from 2010. He didn't allow a run from July 17 until September 20, then he blew two games including last night. If Pap isn't re-signed next season it'll be because he and the front office don't see eye-to-eye on a new contract. I think he wants 4 years if I remember correctly.
Agree. Red Sox have to at least be somewhat competitive in the bidding war for him because Bard basically went south in progression and even when he was good this season, he still had issues with HRs and bad hits.

2nd year in a row where the bullpen caused too many problems especially once the final month occurred.


I got Phillies vs Tigers as the favorites for the WS although I could see the Phillies get eliminated in a shock against the Cardinals.
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Perfect: Dodgers’ Eugenio Velez sets record with 0-for-37 season

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Hank Aaron has been quoted as saying: "Guessing what the pitcher is going to throw is 80 percent of being a successful hitter. The other 20 percent is just execution." But then there's Eugenio Velez(notes).

A reserve infielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers, he set a Major League Baseball record Wednesday night, grounding out in his only at-bat to finish the 2011 season 0 for 37.
No hits. Thirty-seven at-bats. Never before in modern baseball history had a non-pitcher with that many at-bats gone hitless in a season. As Grant Bisbee of SB Nation noted in a Velez appreciation post on Sept. 1, Hal Finney went 0 for 35 for the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1936.
But wait, there's more (or less)! Going back to 2010, Velez is hitless over his past 46 at-bats, which also is a record — in the view of some. Four players, including Milwaukee's Craig Counsell(notes) this season, had gone 0 for 45. In 1909, Brooklyn's Bill Bergen did likewise, as did San Diego/St. Louis/Houston's Dave Campbell (recently of ESPN) in 1973.
That's if you want to count a hitting streak (or a not-hitting streak) that covers two seasons. Some dubiously claimed that Jimmy Rollins(notes), who ended the 2005 season with hits in 36 straight games, was still pursuing Joe DiMaggio's 56-game streak when the 2006 season started. Hey, if the Cubs get to start every season 0-0, so do the players.
But 0 for an entire season? That's definitely a thing.
Velez came off the bench in most of his appearances this season, but Dodgers manager Don Mattingly gave him a start a week ago Friday, when he went 0 for 3 to eclipse Finney's mark. As reporter Dylan Hernandez wrote in the Los Angeles Times, Mattingly faced a tough decision in the season's final days: Should he keep letting Velez swing away in pursuit of his first hit since May 2010?
Mattingly used Velez as an eighth-inning pinch hitter, offering the utility player a chance to hit his way out of an undesirable record. But the well-intentioned move backfired, as Velez hit into another ignoble record.


Ignoble? Au contraire! Velez is King of the Oh-Fers! And, hey, he drew two walks and somehow contributed an RBI this season. Take that, Finney (pictured). At least Velez got on, Mr. No On-Base Percentage!
The 0-for-37 streak might be upsetting, embarrassing and even depressing, but at least we'll know Velez for something other than his famous jersey misadventure.
You might remember that, when Velez played for the San Francisco Giants in 2010, he wore a jersey sent by Majestic that read "San Francicso" on the front. Sick is right.
Has someone been trying to tell Velez that he doesn't belong in the majors?
As Bisbee wrote, it would be a shame if he never got another chance to break his hitless streak. Velez is awesome in his own, unique way:
If you're not Giants or Dodgers fan, you might not have heard of him until just now, but he's amazing. He's fast, but he can't run the bases. He certainly can't bunt. You might think Steve Carlton holds the all-time record for pickoffs with 144. You'd be wrong. Velez has about 167 (rough estimate). He can't play second base or the outfield, which makes him like a Jack Cust(notes), but one who is routinely stuck at second base, or in the outfield. When Velez plays baseball, Hunter Pence(notes) stops to say, "My word, that Velez fellow is gangly and awkward."
And his middle name is "Vancomper." So that's the scouting report on Eugenio Velez. Will we ever see his likeness again?
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That was Buck Showalter in an interview for the April edition of Men's Journal magazine. Showalter had to back down from his comments as Boston manager Terry Francona got mad. Buck's looking pretty smart today. And Boston has to be wondering, "How the hell did they beat us?" this morning.
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If Buck Showalter ever managed a GOOD TEAM, with a lot of money, big time free agents and the like, he'd be a multi-World Series winning manager. I love him.

All the teams he manages become winners and go to the World Series after he leaves them. Yankees, D'Backs, Rangers. Hopefully the same will happen in Baltimore. It's clear the man knows his baseball and does something right.
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If Buck Showalter ever managed a GOOD TEAM, he'd be a multi-World Series winning manager. I love him.
He leaves and then they win the World Series. Which is why im intrigued about what happens with that if he takes the GM position and steps down as manager..does that count as him leaving? should I be taking the odds on the Os to win the World Series in 2012?

also, having trouble coming to grips with the reality that the city of Boston hates Robert Andino now..

I guess this means he has to stay around.
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Showalter got the wrong team with the $205 million comment (Yankees at $205, Red Sox at $161 and 3rd behind Phillies at $172) but he's mostly right.

Showalter's problem is peaking with a team and then not able to do anymore such as putting the stones in place for the Yankees eventual dynasty in the late 1990s with Torre. Same with the Diamondbacks winning the title the year after he leaves. Only team it didn't occur was with the Rangers but that could be more to how bad the A-Rod contract hurt the team money-wise.
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Showalter got the wrong team with the $205 million comment (Yankees at $205, Red Sox at $161 and 3rd behind Phillies at $172) but he's mostly right.

Showalter's problem is peaking with a team and then not able to do anymore such as putting the stones in place for the Yankees eventual dynasty in the late 1990s with Torre. Same with the Diamondbacks winning the title the year after he leaves. Only team it didn't occur was with the Rangers but that could be more to how bad the A-Rod contract hurt the team money-wise.
...the Rangers still made it to the World Series (last year). So all the teams he manages make it to the WS.
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super excited to see Matt Moore pitch tomorrow, haven't gotten to see him since the future's game
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Yeah, having a rookie pitch Game 1 of the ALDS is a gutsy move, but then again, everything has been going right for the Rays as of late, so, who knows?
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Is this Matt Moores first start of the season?
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:51 AM   #2386
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I know he was the best prospect in baseball, but I dunno about this. I hope he's good.
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Second.

He pitched 5 scoreless innings against the Yankees, I believe.
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Terry Francona out in Boston, apparently

if I didn't love Jim Tracy with the passion of 1000 burning suns I would like for him to come here
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Well, it's been a long, good run.

You'd think he'd have more of a leash, especially since he's won two Titles, but...
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Those Boston players need Bobby Valentine to go in there and kick their asses.
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Cubs should get Francona, Palpebon, C.C when he opts out and Prince Feilder.

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Matt Moore gets the start for the Rays in Game 1 with all of one Major League start under his belt.
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Francona is a solid manager, but it was time to go in Boston. It was like Torre here, just time for a new voice.
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