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Old 04-05-2012, 03:38 AM   #81
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Is it just me who remembers Brock for being dangerous in the ring? He dropped a number of people on their head/neck. Kennedy did 1 sloppy move to Randy Orton and he was exiled to TNA.

Now Brock is back and as much as the mark out moment was good, looking ahead is this really the best move by WWE? We've just had the Cena/Rock fued built around the fact that Rock go the chance to do movies and left WWE. At least Rock gave back to WWE what he took. Lesnar got pushed to the moon, said thanks, and left.

And now he's back as WWE thinks with Rock/Taker/HHH out of the picture they need a big name star to carry the company. It all seems very weird, is it 2001 again?
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:01 AM   #84
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Now Brock is back and as much as the mark out moment was good, looking ahead is this really the best move by WWE? We've just had the Cena/Rock fued built around the fact that Rock go the chance to do movies and left WWE. At least Rock gave back to WWE what he took. Lesnar got pushed to the moon, said thanks, and left.
Not gonna deny, I have a bit of resentment towards Lesnar returning for this. I mean, I marked out when his music hit and it's mad exciting and all, but ultimately he let the company down after they invested so much in him. His NFL career failed so he went to MMA. I wouldn't say his MMA career failed, but I'd imagine it didn't quite pan out the way he wanted. So now he goes crawling back to WWE and is basically in a position where he can pretty much do whatever he wants.
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I'm sure Lesnar would be devastated if he read my post, though.
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I'm pretty sure Brock made the WWE a lot of money, so he doesn't owe WWE a whole hell of a lot other than an apology for that piece of shit "match" at WrestleMania XX and not doing the honors on his way out to a younger guy.
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well he "did the honours" only to an older guy, that match had been built for like 2-3 months at that point, maybe even as far as back as Survivor Series
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Brocj Lesnar is a HUGE name no matter how u slice it. WWE owes it to him for him to come back there. Up until his last 2 fights (one he lost, but Overeem cheated), he was the worlds greatest MMA fighter and the biggest name in MMA. The fact that he came back to the WWE shows that he respects them for starting his career. The only reason his MMA career went down was because of his disease, if he didnt get sick, he would be beating ppl up in UFC right now.
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The details surrounding Brock Lesnar’s new WWE contract are beginning to emerge and it looks like the former Undisputed Champion has gotten himself a plum of a deal.

According to sPyWareInsider, Lesnar’s brand new deal — reportedly agreed upon and signed during WrestleMania 28 weekend and rumored to be in the $5 million range — will last through next year’s WrestleMania at Met Life Stadium in New Jersey. There, he will assumedly take part in a huge match-up with tons of mainstream press behind it. The Rock? The Undertaker? His victim last night, John Cena? All potential bouts would rake in tons of cash and score hundreds of thousands of pay-per-view (PPV) buys.

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The current plan is for Lesnar to make appearances about twice a month with an even greater frequency in the months leading up to WrestleMania 29. The report also goes to state additional appearances could be negotiated on a case by case basis.
not bad work if you can get it (and if it's true obvs)
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Add in his merchandise and PPV residuals to that and it looks even better.
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You'd like to think they'd capitilize on him while its new,wouldnt be suprised if we got a Brock DVD by Christmas either.
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Brock Lesnar will make the WWE a lot of money. They are fools if they don't bring him back. Absolute fools.

Lesnar vs. Cena is the big match right now, and I still believe that Lesnar should beat Rock en route to that. Extreme Rules would seem ideal, but I don't know if Brock should debut at a gimmick PPV. Over the Limit seems like it would be a good place.
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I don't think so Noid. A) He's already back, you need to watch Raw. B) Rock vs. Brock is a Mania match that will draw.

Rock shouldn't come back til Survivor Series. Survivor Series have Rock/Cena II for the Number 1 Contender-ship for the WWE Title. Rock wins, barely. Rock vs. WWE Champion at the Rumble. Rock defends through chamber only to be Destroyed by Lesnar after the chamber. There's your Mania match.
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I know Brock is back -- I meant an official in-ring return. Although, with Punk vs. Jericho, Orton vs. Kane, Sheamus vs. Del Rio and Big Show vs. Rhodes seemingly being set-up for the event, it does leave Cena without anything to do. Could the WWE just throw us Cena vs. Lesnar at Extreme Rules? Seems unlikely. I guess there is Daniel Bryan without anything to do, either.

Lesnar vs. Bryan? That would be an absolutely amazing match, and possibly the best guy they could use to work off ring rust out of Lesnar's system. It would also make Bryan look like a million bucks just to hang with the guy, and would wash out his 18 second loss to Sheamus at Mania. Plus, it would make Sheamus himself look good for beating Bryan so quickly if Lesnar can't do it as quick (the WWE doesn't even need to state this). If the WWE are really daring, and they want to get behind this apparent Daniel Bryan machine, they could have John Cena run in and return some favours in Brock Lesnar's direction, and nail him with an Attitude Adjustment -- giving Bryan arguably the biggest win of his career.

I don't want to see Brock vs. Rock at WrestleMania. I've already seen it as SummerSlam ten years ago. Give me it at on a regular PPV; but at Mania, I want to see Lesnar do something epic.
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That would be pretty great but can't see them doing that considering Rock vs Cena was booked as a "once in a life time" match although Cena vs Brock would work out a lot better.

Unlike the feud with the Rock, Cena actually owes a lot to Lesnar because had Lesnar not left, its very unlikely Cena becomes the top star as quickly as he did. WWE basically treated Cena as Plan B/"Macho Man" compared to Brock's status as the future/"Hogan."
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That would be pretty great but can't see them doing that considering Rock vs Cena was booked as a "once in a life time" match although Cena vs Brock would work out a lot better.

Unlike the feud with the Rock, Cena actually owes a lot to Lesnar because had Lesnar not left, its very unlikely Cena becomes the top star as quickly as he did. WWE basically treated Cena as Plan B/"Macho Man" compared to Brock's status as the future/"Hogan."
Exactly. Keep in mind that Cena's finishing move actually started as a rebuke to Lesnar's F5, too.
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To be honest, I'm really starting to think that the WWE would be well off running a card at Extreme Rules like this:

* CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho for the WWE Championship
* Sheamus vs. Alberto Del Rio for the World Heavyweight Championship
* Daniel Bryan vs. Brock Lesnar -- if Cena interferes, then John Laurinaitis will suspend him for six weeks
* Kane vs. Randy Orton
* Big Show vs. Cody Rhodes for the Intercontinental Championship
* Dolph Ziggler vs. Jack Swagger with Vickie Guerrero as Special Referee
* Epico & Primo vs. Kofi Kingston & R-Truth vs. Curt Hawkins & Tyler Reks vs. Justin Gabriel & Tyson Kidd in a TLC Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship

In the Lesnar/Bryan match, the two work their magic in front of what is surely going to be a rabid Chicago crowd. Cena interferes anyway and gives Brock Lesnar an FU, which allows Bryan to pick up the biggest win of his career and furthers Brock vs. Cena. Laurinaitis follows through on his promise to suspend Cena, which gives Cena some time to rest up, which I think every big star needs from time-to-time. It also gives them something to promote, as they can set a John Cena return date.
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Absolutely no way they're going to job Lesnar out in his very first match, much less to the guy who just lost in less than 20 seconds at WrestleMania.

I'd much rather see Bryan get drafted to RAW and take on Cena at Extreme Rules. Just switch the roles of Lesnar and Cena around in your scenario, and it would be tremendous. Lesnar interferes and gives Cena an F5, which allows Bryan to pick up the biggest win of his career and furthers Lesnar vs. Cena.

That would be the best way to go, with the way RAW went down. As pointed out, Chicago would be pro-Bryan without a doubt and ready to see him make up for his disappointing loss to Sheamus with a huge win over Cena, and they most likely would go mental for a Lesnar run-in. Cena being booed over both Lesnar and Bryan would also play right into his motto of "rise above hate." I'd hold off on Lesnar's first match until the main event of SummerSlam vs. Cena.
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That scenario works really well, actually, Mr. C. I'd get behind that.
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I don't really wanna see Lesnar wrestle until he's spent a bit of time in the gym first.
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Would me mad funny if Lesnar had a match at Extreme Rules and sucked. Like, everyone just assumes after eight or nine years absense he'll just automatically be as good as he was when he debuted.
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Would me mad funny if Lesnar had a match at Extreme Rules and sucked. Like, everyone just assumes after eight or nine years absense he'll just automatically be as good as he was when he debuted.
Yah cuz Brock has been sitting at home drinking beer.

Oh wait, Brock was busy fighting in MMA which takes a LOT of physical working out, more than wrestling cause youre fighting for real. Yeah, I bet Brock needs to get in shape
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You moron. There's a difference between professional wrestling and MMA. Just because he's good at punching people doesn't automatically mean he's not gonna have ring rust in a pro wrestling ring. And I'm not sure if 'more than wrestling' is really a fair statement. MMA fighters don't have to fight two or three times a week, all year round.
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You moron. There's a difference between professional wrestling and MMA. Just because he's good at punching people doesn't automatically mean he's not gonna have ring rust in a pro wrestling ring. And I'm not sure if 'more than wrestling' is really a fair statement. MMA fighters don't have to fight two or three times a week, all year round.
Difference is WWE wrestlers are performing while MMA fighters are fighting for real, it takes a lot more to fight for real because they have to go all out into it, like fighting for there life, as opposed to WWE wrestlers who are just doing a show.

Brock is in great shape, the only problem is if his disease doesnt pop up again.
I am still sure that if he didnt have diverculitis or whatever it was, he would still be UFC champ.
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Lol good at punching
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Go all out? Like they're fighting for their lives? Is that why they spend half the fights pacing around and sizing each other up? The difference between the two, is that MMA fighters train, fight, and then get to rest. WWE performers train, perform, and then head to the next city to repeat. It's all about conditioning, and both sports require a great amount of it.

Besides, all that aside, you took my quote way out of context. I'm not debating whether Lesnar is in shape or not, but in 2002 Lesnar was a fucking muscle machine. With MMA being a legit sport, Lesnar has been kept off the gas/juice whatever you wanna call it, hence I don't really wanna see Lesnar wrestling with flabby arms and a huge gut. Would rather him spend some time in the gym first and get a bit more ripped again.
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Difference is WWE wrestlers are performing while MMA fighters are fighting for real, it takes a lot more to fight for real because they have to go all out into it, like fighting for there life, as opposed to WWE wrestlers who are just doing a show.

Brock is in great shape, the only problem is if his disease doesnt pop up again.
I am still sure that if he didnt have diverculitis or whatever it was, he would still be UFC champ.
you're talking out of your arse, he'll definitely have "ring rust", he hasn't "worked" a match in about 5 years but I'm sure he'll shed it quick enough "behind closed doors"
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and I definitely think people are overestimating how "bad" he apparently looks, watching it again last night in a decent definition as opposed to live streams and Youtube, he's just really pale. Still has plenty of size, still a monster plus now he can take advantage of the wellness policy again if he wants. John Cena will make anybody look inferior aesthetically, Brock's maybe a suntan away from looking "great"
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Then he needs to go to a tanning studio instead of a gym. Get it sorted! :foc:
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Brock can still kick anyones ass on this forum so I dont think it makes sense for ppl to say he looks crappy.
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Nobody is debating that, but unfortunately in Pro Wrestling the ability to kick someones ass isn't everything.
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