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Old 09-14-2012, 07:06 PM   #41
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... That was the greatest analysis of anything ever.
Thank you, #1 WWF Fan! I have never heard a live or recorded performance of Savage or the Rock singing in the shower, and hence I cannot comment.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:24 PM   #45
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Rock is a far more prolific movie star than Savage was, having cameo'd in Spider-Man and in a few television shows (most memorably for me, doing a voiceover of a wrestling space alien who took on some cartoon monkey on Dexter's Laboratory or some other Cartoon Network show around 1996).

However, Savage participated in a 1993 WWE/F ballads album and released his own cheesy-but-likable album ten years later! Rock has done voiceovers in the various mixes of his theme for WWE albums, but most of that creativity was Jim Johnston. Plus, Savage had a 5-year Slim Jim spokesman contract, although arguably this may be balanced by Rock's movie franchise involvement.

So for me, this leaves their in-ring legacy as the primary difference in overall impact. Savage got over in Florida Championship Wrestling with pretty much the same gimmick as what he brought to the WWE/F. Rock was thrown into WWE/F straight away after football and managed to get over within two years of debuting despite an early feud with the Sultan and being lost in the shuffle most of his time in the Nation of Domination. So points to Savage for finding himself in the original FCW, and roughly the same points to Rock for convincing the McMahon and the writers to let himself be a more organic character on his own.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, Savage and Rock had 5 World Title reigns each among their WWWE/F and WCW / World Heavyweight reigns. The primary distinction I see between their accomplishments is that Savage has a wider breadth of non-title accomplishments such as wrestling for non-WWE promotions (WCW and TNA) as well as having at least three valets (Elizabeth Huett, Sherrie Martel, and Stephanie Bellars). While I understand that Rock could get his wife on camera if he or she wanted, I believe that Savage really showed talent by involving his valets in feuds over the years without letting himself be over-shadowed.

Plus, Savage's reinvention in 1999 really showed some initiative; it's too bad that his contract ran out before the New Blood angle, but I'm sure Russo would have fouled it up anyway. But besides all that, I liked Savage's sunglasses slightly better than the Rock's -- just my opinion!
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:35 PM   #47
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The Rock has headlined four Wrestlemanias, two of them with Stone Cold Steve Austin (3 matches, Austin also headlined four), and one with Cena. Cena's headlined more than either of them. Savage did two. Dunno how many Hogan did, but I'm pretty sure he's up there. These are obviously some of the biggest stars in wrestling. It's kind of apples and oranges.
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I gotta admit though, in Savage's day, the IC title was way over.
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Probably more over than the World Heavyweight Title is now.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:45 PM   #51
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The Rock has headlined four Wrestlemanias, two of them with Stone Cold Steve Austin (3 matches, Austin also headlined four), and one with Cena. Cena's headlined more than either of them. Savage did two. Dunno how many Hogan did, but I'm pretty sure he's up there.
If you count the impromptu WrestleMania IX main event, 8. If not, 7.
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There was a point where the feuds for the IC Title got more exposure and were more entertaining than whatever was going on with the WWF Championship.

Case in point: WrestleMania 10. Bret won the Championship, yet everyone remembers that ppv because of HBK and Razor's Ladder Match for the IC Title.
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Dunno. I feel like maybe I should be voting for The Rock, but then I get all nostalgiac and remember how much I loved Randy Savage as a kid.... and it makes me vote for him.
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There was a point where the feuds for the IC Title got more exposure and were more entertaining than whatever was going on with the WWF Championship.

Case in point: WrestleMania 10. Bret won the Championship, yet everyone remembers that ppv because of HBK and Razor's Ladder Match for the IC Title.
The IC Title did used to get more exposure than the WWF Title, mainly in the early days of Raw. I think that actually made the WWF Title even more over. The IC Title was regularly the main event on Raw. Tons of exposure and treated like a big deal. The WWF Title was more over as you had to pay to see it defended. It was like it was too big for free TV. Gave it that "aura" while the focus on the IC Title made it huge as well.
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The Rock on his best day can't cut a promo like Randy Savage could.

I mean, we can turn back the clock, go back to the Attitude Era, bring back that Rock, and his promo wouldn't even touch what the Macho Man could do.
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The IC Title did used to get more exposure than the WWF Title, mainly in the early days of Raw. I think that actually made the WWF Title even more over. The IC Title was regularly the main event on Raw. Tons of exposure and treated like a big deal. The WWF Title was more over as you had to pay to see it defended. It was like it was too big for free TV. Gave it that "aura" while the focus on the IC Title made it huge as well.
Well yeah, because back then WWF had the WWF Champion go out and wrestle jobbers in a squash match.

I really liked that, btw. I loved seeing the Champion go out and wrestle a nobody.

It made whoever was the Champion look good.
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The Rock on his best day can't cut a promo like Randy Savage could.
I think we have a hater here.



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Old 09-15-2012, 12:28 AM   #58
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Thank you for proving my point, sir.

You have a great night, now.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:36 AM   #59
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I gotta admit, that made you look reeeeeeeeeeeally smart!
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Your little "I'm gonna push that Rock is better on the mic than Savage, so I'm gonna post a 9 minute video of The Rock on the mic and a 2 minute video of one Macho Man promo" thing made you look "reaaaaaaaaaaally" smart, too.

And still, Macho comes out the winner.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:40 AM   #61
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Fuck, man. You said his best day. Now I'll never prove to you that The Rock is better on the microphone than Randy Savage! You dumb fuck!
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LMAO the video you posted is titled "The Rock's Best Promos".

That should be the money video, the one that dispells all doubts as to why The Rock is so much better than Savage on the mic.

Yet it didn't.

And Rock is not.

That's all.
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:46 AM   #63
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To be fair, I don't remember ever thinking Rock sold a match on the mic. He was pure comedy and charisma. Even during the Cena feud, ever single time I remember thinking "Cena is selling the shit out of this match and making me kinda more hyped for it." and "Rock is... being silly."
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Randy Savage's promos were all unique, sometimes unexpected.

The Rock always starts off with "FINALLY!", goes on to try to come up with several different phrases that he thinks are funny, gets a few laughs, and that's it.

"Monkey Ass", "Ass", "Boots to Asses", "Bring it". The whole repertoire.

He might, however, end on a serious/intense note, depending on what's going on.

That's about it.

Oh, and how could I forget "IF YOU SMEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN!"?
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You gotta watch some of Macho Man's WCW work. There was some real garbage in there. Way worse than anything Rock did in this recent comeback.
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Still voted for Savage btw. My first "favorite wrestler."
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Can't be any worse than "We will Rock you".

That's my measuring stick.
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Probably more over than the World Heavyweight Title is now.
doesn't help that these days, we have like a dozen people who are considered "above" the big belts.

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All he has to do to look really smart is stand next to you. Hell, that's all anyone has to do to look smart.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:17 AM   #71
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I think this match-up may cause me to have an aneurysm. Two of my all-time faves, it's incredibly hard to pick one over the other. I feel like I turned heel on myself for doing it, but I went with The Jabroni-Beating, Pie-Eating, Eyebrow-Raising, Trailblazing, Heart-Stopping, Elbow-Dropping, People's Champ, The Rock! I love The Macho Man, but when I think hard about it, there are more things I like about The Rock. Barring the shitty Sharpshooter he does, that is. Without The Rock, the world would not have Poontang Pie. That settled it for me
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:19 AM   #72
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:53 AM   #73
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All he has to do to look really smart is stand next to you. Hell, that's all anyone has to do to look smart.
If it were that easy, why post 150,000 times in the red and yellow wrestling forum? All you had to do was ask.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:01 AM   #74
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If it were that easy, why post 150,000 times in the red and yellow wrestling forum? All you had to do was ask.
Because nobody needs to look smart compared to you.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:48 AM   #75
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Sentimental vote for Macho Man.

But Rock haters suck
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:52 AM   #76
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I'm not so much hating on The Rock as I'm building up the case for Randy Savage being better than him.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:40 PM   #77
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Because nobody needs to look smart compared to you.
I'm a smart feller, and you're a fart smeller.

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You are an obvious Rock hater, or you're the head in charge of TPWW's "Be A Tard" campaign.

(because it rhymes with be a star)

Macho Man's promos were mostly random babbling and made little sense. You just don't drink the Rock's kool aid. And hey, you don't have to! But you toss these baseless statements so brashly about, that it appeals to the retard patrol in me. You just keep repeating yourself, rather than saying anything that makes any sense. But hey, if Macho Man did it, and you think he's better than The Rock on the mic, it explains a lot!
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I'm a smart feller, and you're a fart smeller.



You are an obvious Rock hater, or you're the head in charge of TPWW's "Be A Tard" campaign.

(because it rhymes with be a star)

Macho Man's promos were mostly random babbling and made little sense. You just don't drink the Rock's kool aid. And hey, you don't have to! But you toss these baseless statements so brashly about, that it appeals to the retard patrol in me. You just keep repeating yourself, rather than saying anything that makes any sense. But hey, if Macho Man did it, and you think he's better than The Rock on the mic, it explains a lot!
Star and Tard do not rhyme. Tar, yes. Tard, no.
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If it's like this for Rock vs. Savage, this place will explode for Jericho vs. HBK.
Nah man, HBK will be virtually unanimous
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