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Old 04-09-2013, 05:39 AM   #1
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When you say "kids" what age range, because 8-14 made up a small fraction of that fanbase, which happens to be their target fanbase now.

Ticket prices were also different in Hogans day and Hogan basically wrestled on close circuit. Hogan is also more popular than Austin and it's not close.
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:40 AM   #2
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When you say "kids" what age range, because 8-14 made up a small fraction of that fanbase, which happens to be their target fanbase now.

Ticket prices were also different in Hogans day and Hogan basically wrestled on close circuit. Hogan is also more popular than Austin and it's not close.
During their peaks as #1 babyface, Austin sold more merch and tickets. Hogan is probably more popular because he had twice as long of a career and went out of his way to do reality shows, movies, be in a high profile divorce, sex tape, etc.

Also, Hogan can't be too popular because he hasn't done shit for TNA in terms of ratings. I imagine Stone Cold Steve Austin could move the needle.
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Old 04-09-2013, 05:43 AM   #3
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During their peaks as #1 babyface, Austin sold more merch and tickets.
Did Austin have a cartoon? Was Austin a pop culture icon? Did Austin sell out the Silverdome? If you ask 100 random people to name a wrestler would Austin's name get mentioned more than Hogan? Hogan is the biggest star in history. Hogan's match with the Rock during Austins stint got a louder response than anything Austin ever did.
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I was a kid during the attitude era. You can appeal to kids and not making the product so fucking watered down and vanilla.
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Did Austin have a cartoon? Was Austin a pop culture icon? Did Austin sell out the Silverdome? If you ask 100 random people to name a wrestler would Austin's name get mentioned more than Hogan? Hogan is the biggest star in history. Hogan's match with the Rock during Austins stint got a louder response than anything Austin ever did.
They would prob say the rock.. All about who is fresh on the mind.. Unless those 100 randoms are all 100 from the impact zone..
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During their peaks as #1 babyface, Austin sold more merch and tickets. Hogan is probably more popular because he had twice as long of a career and went out of his way to do reality shows, movies, be in a high profile divorce, sex tape, etc.

Also, Hogan can't be too popular because he hasn't done shit for TNA in terms of ratings. I imagine Stone Cold Steve Austin could move the needle.
Nothing could help TNA.
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Did Austin have a cartoon? Was Austin a pop culture icon? Did Austin sell out the Silverdome? If you ask 100 random people to name a wrestler would Austin's name get mentioned more than Hogan? Hogan is the biggest star in history. Hogan's match with the Rock during Austins stint got a louder response than anything Austin ever did.
Hogan wrestled across 3 generations to Austin's 1, so many more people know of Hulk Hogan. Hogan has done a better job of marketing himself after his career. But, it is a fact, based on what Vince McMahon has said, that Austin shattered every box office and merch record Hogan set in the 80s.

Austin made people buy 12 ppvs a year instead of just watching a cartoon. I promise WWE made more money going from 4 ppvs to 12 ppvs under Austin than that cartoon ever made. Austin led the WWE from the abyss and let them start doing stadium shows again, and he sold out the AstroDome. Austin also led WWE to create SmackDown!, HeAT, and increase the demand for syndication.

I'd argue that crowd reaction has nothing to do with tangible monetary drawing power. Remember, you are the one who says CM Punk almost killed the WWE despite getting damn near riot level reactions when he faced Cena.

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Touche.
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Hogan wrestled across 3 generations to Austin's 1, so many more people know of Hulk Hogan. Hogan has done a better job of marketing himself after his career. But, it is a fact, based on what Vince McMahon has said, that Austin shattered every box office and merch record Hogan set in the 80s.

Austin made people buy 12 ppvs a year instead of just watching a cartoon. I promise WWE made more money going from 4 ppvs to 12 ppvs under Austin than that cartoon ever made. Austin led the WWE from the abyss and let them start doing stadium shows again, and he sold out the AstroDome. Austin also led WWE to create SmackDown!, HeAT, and increase the demand for syndication.

I'd argue that crowd reaction has nothing to do with tangible monetary drawing power. Remember, you are the one who says CM Punk almost killed the WWE despite getting damn near riot level reactions when he faced Cena.



Touche.
Hogan also turned heel which set off the Monday Night Wars and became the best heel of the 90's, while Austin's heel turn fell flat because it didn't have the same shock value.
During the vast majority of Hogans times ppv was just starting out, so using the ppv's angle isn't really fair, although ppv wouldn't be popular if it weren't for Hogan
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