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Old 04-28-2013, 07:19 PM   #41
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I don't know. Hogan would get a massive pop if he came back.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:19 PM   #42
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hogan would have to come back to wwe to get a true feeling for that.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:21 PM   #43
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I think Rock now is more over than Hogan now. If not, it's definitely close.
This is true. At least 60% of WWE's audience is under 15 this means that most don't even know who Hogan is unless they watch TNA or saw his deal with Orton (last time I can remember Hogan being on WWE TV). Hogan would get a pop, but lets face it he's only worth anything when he's in the WWE. In TNA he hasn't really changed much if anything ratings wise save for the couple month boost they got when he signed.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:22 PM   #44
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they know who hogan is. don't be daft.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:24 PM   #45
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they know who hogan is. don't be daft.
Dude you're what? 20s? 30s? Kids today barely know who Rock is (my nephew watches WWE and loves Cena, but couldn't wrap his 8 year old head around why the actor The Rock would want to wrestle Cena).
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:26 PM   #46
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my buddy has a 3 year old son who knows exactly who hogan is. so that's more an indictment of your nephew than kids in general. and it's not the kids who would pop anyway, it would be the parents who bring the kids. it's not rocket science.
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I think the big issue here is that nobody is a star without WWE, period. John fucking Cena could go to TNA and they'd still be floundering because wrestling is WWE and whatever WWE tells the fans to like they will like.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:30 PM   #48
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I just asked my 5 year old son who Hogan is. He didn't know, but he would like to know more. I've taught him well.

I'll show some early Hulkamania footage and ease him into the nWo later...
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:30 PM   #49
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my buddy has a 3 year old son who knows exactly who hogan is. so that's more an indictment of your nephew than kids in general. and it's not the kids who would pop anyway, it would be the parents who bring the kids. it's not rocket science.
I said in a previous post that he'd get a pop, just probably not the earth shattering pop everyone seems to think. Honestly it probably wouldn't even be as big as Rocky's was.

As for your buddy's kid you're again basing all children off of one child just like you accused me of doing. I'm not saying every kid in the world wouldn't know, but in a world where American teenagers don't even know who Henry Ford is and think Lady Gaga is the first woman to ever "push the boundaries" of what's "normal" it's fair to say that most wouldn't know shit.
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I always got the impression that Rock at his peak of popularity was at the very least equal to Hogan.

That said, I have no clue about merchandise sales etc. and I never followed Hogan's WWF career.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:37 PM   #51
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my buddy has a 3 year old son who knows exactly who hogan is. so that's more an indictment of your nephew than kids in general. and it's not the kids who would pop anyway, it would be the parents who bring the kids. it's not rocket science.
My kids don't know who Hogan is either, that said I rarely let them out of the cellar.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:39 PM   #52
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Hogan would get a ridiculous pop if he showed up in the WWE. He's the most recognizable wrestler ever.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:41 PM   #53
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I always got the impression that Rock at his peak of popularity was at the very least equal to Hogan.

That said, I have no clue about merchandise sales etc. and I never followed Hogan's WWF career.
I've had this arguement with James Steele. You can't compare the two eras. Totally different times.
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I would agree with that, Hogan still lived during a time where "wrestling was real", but as far as general intensity goes that's what I'm talking about.

When Hogan and Rock had that amazing match I remember feeling at the time that the crowd was just being smarks when they cheer heel Hogan over Rock, because at that point I think Rock had been doing the stale super-face thing for a while and people were ready for a change.
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I would agree with that, Hogan still lived during a time where "wrestling was real", but as far as general intensity goes that's what I'm talking about.

When Hogan and Rock had that amazing match I remember feeling at the time that the crowd was just being smarks when they cheer heel Hogan over Rock, because at that point I think Rock had been doing the stale super-face thing for a while and people were ready for a change.
nah, that crowd was pure nostalgia/"Hogan is the biggest star ever"/Hogan playing the crowd like a fiddle/Rock playing his role perfectly etc. "The stars aligning" so to speak.
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I would agree with that, Hogan still lived during a time where "wrestling was real", but as far as general intensity goes that's what I'm talking about.

When Hogan and Rock had that amazing match I remember feeling at the time that the crowd was just being smarks when they cheer heel Hogan over Rock, because at that point I think Rock had been doing the stale super-face thing for a while and people were ready for a change.
Hogan was also around when cable and pay per view were just starting out. Wrestlemania 1 and 2 for as big a success as they were, appeared on closed circuit television and it was a big risk for somebody to purchase the rights.


Smarks CHEERING Hogan? Now I've heard everything lol.
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hey, he may have beaten his wife, but he was probably supper entertaining and charming while doing it.
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Hollywood Hogan doesn't work if he's a face and vice versa with Hulkamania Hogan as a heel. It has to be Hulkamania Hogan, and if he's staying out of the ring then it works. People love face Hogan and that's what is making Bully and the Aces so hated. It appeals to the mature because Aces and Eights are so violent.

I never watch TNA so I'm guessing at what's happening.
That is pretty spot on. There was an episode where Hogan walked to the ring wielding a baseball bat to scare away A&E, and the crowd went wild.
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hey, he may have beaten his wife, but he was probably supper entertaining and charming while doing it.
How else could he have done it on three (documented, anyway) separate occasions? The guy draws you in.
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Ill never forget this. The NWO re-debuted in the WWF at No Way Out, during the peak of Austin's "what" stuff where crowds were saying it after every sentance in every promo. Nash took the mic and the crowd did it, Hall the same. Hogan gets the mic and the crowd goes crazy and doesn't do it once during his entire promo.

Ill say this about Austin and Hogan. Hogan's match with Rock got more of a crowd reaction than anything Austin ever did.
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Austin never really got the chance to do a WrestleMania dream match like that. The comparison doesn't fit.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:47 PM   #68
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I guarantee if they did Cena vs Austin at WrestleMania next year, it would get a Rock-Hogan type crowd reaction. And Cena isn't even at the level of Rock or Hogan at that time.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:12 PM   #69
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I miss Austin.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:34 PM   #70
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Hulk Hogan is the American Bret Hart. Or is Bret Hart the Canadian Hogan? Either way, both are the best from their country.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:53 PM   #71
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Kurt Angle would like to disagree with you on that front.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:15 PM   #72
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Hulk Hogan is wrestling, and he will forever be wrestling's biggest star ever.

But man, his reputation has taken such a hit the last couple of years. His legacy has been somewhat affected by so much drama.

And, I mean, you don't pick up your phone while getting your mushroom tip sucked. And you don't talk about how you just ate a big ass meal when it's "sexy time".
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:58 PM   #73
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And, I mean, you don't pick up your phone while getting your mushroom tip sucked.
You do if you're a badass.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:33 AM   #74
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Hulk Hogan is wrestling, and he will forever be wrestling's biggest star ever.

But man, his reputation has taken such a hit the last couple of years. His legacy has been somewhat affected by so much drama.

And, I mean, you don't pick up your phone while getting your mushroom tip sucked. And you don't talk about how you just ate a big ass meal when it's "sexy time".
No worse than Ric Flair's
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:46 AM   #75
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Love Hulk Hogan. Fuck the haters.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:46 AM   #76
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that match with the Rock is boring and Hulk Hogan sucks
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:06 AM   #77
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Is TNA watchable yet? And by that I mean, do they still have WWE midcard guys who showed no main event potential back in the day as World champions?
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:27 AM   #78
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Is TNA watchable yet? And by that I mean, do they still have WWE midcard guys who showed no main event potential back in the day as World champions?
Bully Ray is world champ take that for what you will. He has however been pretty damn good in the role and is the leader of the Aces and 8s which has for the most part been pretty entertaining.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:26 AM   #79
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TNA is never watchable.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:12 AM   #80
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I think the big issue here is that nobody is a star without WWE, period. John fucking Cena could go to TNA and they'd still be floundering because wrestling is WWE and whatever WWE tells the fans to like they will like.
A sample size of one always gives proper results.
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