Talking Point of the Week: Underdogs in wrestling

[Wishbone]

Originally Posted by Jazzy Foot I think it just assumes the new lineage tbh. I actually miss having two titles, two champions, there was a point both were held in high regard, one headlining the ppv over the other but then eventually the WWE title was given priority and kept getting pushed and then the decision was made the combine the two. It may just be a belt but for me it's the symbol of a wrestler being picked out as better than the rest (just with WWE title and WHC) and there are a fair few on the roster who deserve to be one of the "top guys" but obviously don't have the WWE title: - Bray Wyatt - Dean Ambrose (but in the title picture) - Wade Barrett - Dolph Ziggler - Even Roman Reigns but he needs to really go back to school or something to learn the ropes.

I'm a little torn on the title situation. I thought I'd absolutely love having one title again in WWE, but now that it's happened it's been a bit less "epic" than I thought it would. I don't know what I was expecting but honestly the title is still about the same in prestige as it was before. Nothing has really improved and all that seems to have happened is that now we likely won't see a lot of guys that you mentioned ever hold a world championship. I don't know, I guess what I'm saying is if they were just gonna continue booking shit in the exact same way then maybe we should've just kept the two belts. At least then some of the guys who deserve more than the midcard could actually get it even if it was considered a "second tier" title.

[Jazzy Foot]

Originally Posted by Wishbone I'm a little torn on the title situation. I thought I'd absolutely love having one title again in WWE, but now that it's happened it's been a bit less "epic" than I thought it would. I don't know what I was expecting but honestly the title is still about the same in prestige as it was before. Nothing has really improved and all that seems to have happened is that now we likely won't see a lot of guys that you mentioned ever hold a world championship. I don't know, I guess what I'm saying is if they were just gonna continue booking shit in the exact same way then maybe we should've just kept the two belts. At least then some of the guys who deserve more than the midcard could actually get it even if it was considered a "second tier" title.

If they were ever going to merge titles it really should have been the US and IC title as it pains me to say this as a WCW fan from back in the day, the US title doesn't mean a thing any more whether Cena is holding it or Owens wins it etc.

If anything having more titles on the roster would have increased interest and added greater meaning/weight to matches. Ideally I'd like the following either back or created:

- WWE Title.
- WHC
- IC Title
- Cruiserweight title for the smaller guys or just keep the US Title
- Tag team titles.
- Hardcore Title (difficult in a PG Era).
- Replace the Divas with the Women's Title which sounds more prestigious and less wishy washy.
- Women's Tag Team Titles

Possibly revive the TV title. Could have done that if WWE had gone with Sting as a GM and he created that for that purpose.

The fact Bray Wyatt has gone on this long without a belt and it took so long for Ryback to be given a belt just shows how little regard WWE have for some of their stars and if TNA were even a fraction of what WCW was in it's prime in terms of quality and the financial incentives, they'd have already jumped ship.

Whilst Bray Wyatt isn't old, his popularity is still pretty high and I fear if WWE wait too long it could just be that fans may well move onto the next guy etc. I feel this has happened to Barrett.

At one point I sensed (perhaps wrongly) that Kofi Kingston and Big E Langston were extremely popular and had main event potential but that has well and truly been extinguished. Wade Barrett even as "King" is not going anywhere and I don't see Sheamus recapturing the belt even when cashing in.


Ambrose I hope gets the belt sooner rather than later and whilst not his biggest fan, Reigns has some potential but really needs some help behind the scenes otherwise he will be remembered as one of the biggest flops in wrestling. Having him spear and squash people like Goldberg did won't work and in the long term it didn't work for Goldberg because no storyline other than having him squash people could work for him.