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Old 11-30-2015, 04:16 PM   #1
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I'm pretty sure that not everyone has the creative freedom that New Day has.

In other words work within our really rigid system and get yourself over.

It worked wonders for Zack Ryder.
I don't see why New Day would get special treatment. Maybe now, because they are over, but when they were first trying to establish a gimmick they said they were always going to Vince with concepts.

Ryder was over for a time, but his popularity fizzled out because he didn't have any depth to his gimmick. It was just broski and woowoowoo and that's it. Plus he came off like a geek
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:25 PM   #2
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I don't see why New Day would get special treatment. Maybe now, because they are over, but when they were first trying to establish a gimmick they said they were always going to Vince with concepts.

Ryder was over for a time, but his popularity fizzled out because he didn't have any depth to his gimmick. It was just broski and woowoowoo and that's it. Plus he came off like a geek
Why do I get the feeling that you don't think the company actually pushing Ryder would have mattered?

Lets apply this logic to Roman he isn't interesting all he is so by the numbers it hurts has zero depth to him fans generally dislike him. Ryder at least has Something but by your logic Roman should be a non-issue right now, he isn't because the WWE is determined to make us think he doesn't suck. Having the company support DOES matter.
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Old 11-30-2015, 04:40 PM   #3
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Why do I get the feeling that you don't think the company actually pushing Ryder would have mattered?

Lets apply this logic to Roman he isn't interesting all he is so by the numbers it hurts has zero depth to him fans generally dislike him. Ryder at least has Something but by your logic Roman should be a non-issue right now, he isn't because the WWE is determined to make us think he doesn't suck. Having the company support DOES matter.
I remember watching Ryder grow in popularity because he was smart and was an early adopter to social media. I would watch him get these huge pops and think "why do people like this guy? ". But hey different strokes. In my opinion what happened was they got what they could out of him. He was like a car with only one gear. You need more than that to elevate your career.

To me Roman has a much better look than Ryder, he works like a main eventer, he has crazy presence, he just needs more confidence on the mic. I think that can be developed.
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Old 11-30-2015, 05:02 PM   #4
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To me Roman has a much better look than Ryder, he works like a main eventer, he has crazy presence, he just needs more confidence on the mic. I think that can be developed.
Give Dean his spot then he has all the tools.
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