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[BigCrippyZ]

Originally Posted by The CyNick Sometimes the myth of the story is more valuable than the facts.

Yes, if you're an idiot than I suppose you likely would value the myth over the facts. Only the utterly stupid, naive or uninformed would value the myth over the facts.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ Yes, if you're an idiot than I suppose you likely would value the myth over the facts. Only the utterly stupid, naive or uninformed would value the myth over the facts.

That's funny coming from a lot of people who believe that Daniel Bryan was magically pushed by the fans. The myth is better than the facts, so you believe it.

[BigCrippyZ]

Originally Posted by The CyNick That's funny coming from a lot of people who believe that Daniel Bryan was magically pushed by the fans. The myth is better than the facts, so you believe it.

Um, what?

It's just as much of a myth (if not more so) that Bryan's WM main event match was some elaborate original plan. You have no evidence that was the plan.

We on the other hand have evidence of Daniel Bryan himself saying that he wasn't originally planned to main event WM.

Sure, maybe it was the plan and they just didn't tell Bryan that was the case.

Meanwhile, your proof that it was the plan is that some superstars aren't always told what the plans for their particular match outcomes are until the day of the match or they're not told the specifics of their story lines in advance. You have no evidence that superstars are or are not told in advance that they will or won't be main eventing WM or any other PPV. All of this is what is called a presumption.

I know were not in court here but in case you don't know, presumptions are not facts and so they are also not admissible as evidence.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ Um, what? It's just as much of a myth (if not more so) that Bryan's WM main event match was some elaborate original plan. You have no evidence that was the plan. We on the other hand have evidence of Daniel Bryan himself saying that he wasn't originally planned to main event WM. Sure, maybe it was the plan and they just didn't tell Bryan that was the case. Meanwhile, your proof that it was the plan is that some superstars aren't always told what the plans for their particular match outcomes are until the day of the match or they're not told the specifics of their story lines in advance. You have no evidence that superstars are or are not told in advance that they will or won't be main eventing WM or any other PPV. All of this is what is called a presumption. I know were not in court here but in case you don't know, presumptions are not facts and so they are also not admissible as evidence.

So we're supposed to listen to Daniel Bryan but not Roman Reigns.

My proof is the months of booking Bryan to get screwed, to be kept as the focal point of the shows, to show the interaction of the crowd, to focus on the crowd to teach future crowds to repeat the behaviour, to create a bunch of merchandise. Yeah all those things indicate the Bryan push was planned months in advance.

You guys like to claim things get missed by me, but explain why WWE can bury guys when they want to, but with Bryan they kept focusing on him without burying him. Why wouldn't they just bury him if they didn't plan for him to get to the top.

This one debate is why people who are actually on the inside in high positions think this segment of the fans base are morons. Loyal. But morons.

[Big Vic]

Originally Posted by The CyNick So we're supposed to listen to Daniel Bryan but not Roman Reigns. My proof is the months of booking Bryan to get screwed, to be kept as the focal point of the shows...

The focal point of the shows was Cena vs Orton, uniting the belts, not Daniel Bryan.

[The CyNick]

Originally Posted by Big Vic The focal point of the shows was Cena vs Orton, uniting the belts, not Daniel Bryan.

I mentioned Bryan was pushed harder than anyone other than Cena.

But Bryan was interacting with the authority week after week calling him a B+ player. But then behind the scenes he's going over Cena clean, winning the title, only to get screwed by The Authority. If they didn't plan for him to headline he would be booked like someone like Ryback is today.

[Big Vic]

Originally Posted by The CyNick I mentioned Bryan was pushed harder than anyone other than Cena.

Losing to Bray Wyatt is not being push harder than anyone but Cena

During that time span the following following wrestlers were being pushed harder than Daniel Bryan

John Cena
Randy Orton
CM Punk
Roman Reigns
Bray Wyatt