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Old 02-20-2016, 10:58 PM   #1
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Despite what Noid may have said about how well R-Truth has done to stay in the shape he is, the guy was 40 when he was getting a push against Cena and that was what, 5 years ago? I just think at a time when the roster is so sparse of star power more time should be dedicated to guys like Neville and Tyler Breeze to develop a character and something for the main crowd to get behind.
Neville has no charisma. R Truth still brings value and entertainment to the table. And his character seems to constantly evolve to keep him interesting without needing much air time.
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Old 02-21-2016, 12:41 AM   #2
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Neville has no charisma.
This is a big bone of contention with me and the NXT crowd. A lot of these guys are phenomenal wrestlers, but they are not stars by any means, and a lot of them lack intangibles. WWE is a professional wrestling company, but it's business is heavily dependent on star power, and, for the mainstream, star power is derived more from guys like Batista and Brock Lesnar than Neville, Finn Balor, or Samoa Joe. It's just the way it is, and I feel that the Daniel Bryan thing was a singular phenomenon that gave fans hope that the page was turning, when it is not in actuality.
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Old 02-21-2016, 01:46 AM   #3
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This is a big bone of contention with me and the NXT crowd. A lot of these guys are phenomenal wrestlers, but they are not stars by any means, and a lot of them lack intangibles. WWE is a professional wrestling company, but it's business is heavily dependent on star power, and, for the mainstream, star power is derived more from guys like Batista and Brock Lesnar than Neville, Finn Balor, or Samoa Joe. It's just the way it is, and I feel that the Daniel Bryan thing was a singular phenomenon that gave fans hope that the page was turning, when it is not in actuality.
Only time will tell if the Daniel Bryan "thing" was a singular phenomenon or not, but given the current love Dean Ambrose is getting coupled with the boom of NXT as it relies on the people you mentioned I'd say that it's a fair bet it wasn't. Fact is WWE's main product has been stagnant for years. There hasn't been a ton of loss, but there hasn't been any real growth either. NXT on the other hand has exploded in just around 2 years. Yeah, NXT isn't pulling in the numbers RAW is, but in terms of growth NXT is growing far faster than RAW has in well over a decade. If that trend continues they could one day surpass RAW, and that day wouldn't be very far off if the rate of growth continues at its current speed. Oh, and lets not forget that NXT has done all of this without national television exposure. Now imagine if NXT was given a chance on a major network and had the same sort of effort and money put into it as RAW. I honestly believe that the allure of stars like Brock Lesnar and Batista (who honestly was never that big a draw to begin with in the grand scheme of things) is waning. The atmosphere of pop culture is changing drastically, and to deny that is ludicrous. We're seeing shows like Big Bang Theory become cultural phenomenons. Movies about comic book characters are the biggest thing going in Hollywood right now. We're in an era where "nerdy" is considered the new "cool." Like I said time will tell, but I would bet money that fans will continue this trend of going for wrestlers and characters with depth and in-ring skill over simple physical specimens.
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